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AndyT
03-07-2003, 09:35
http://www.essilor.freeserve.co.uk/sadcar/side.jpg

Home made bass bin

http://www.essilor.freeserve.co.uk/sadcar/bass.jpg

Wonder if they're a plumber? Look at the cage ...

http://www.essilor.freeserve.co.uk/sadcar/cage.jpg

yeager
03-07-2003, 09:46
what a joke, that roll cage had me in fits !

Vez
03-07-2003, 09:53
This has already been posted! :rolleyes:

JB
03-07-2003, 09:56
Piece of shit.

Nicely
03-07-2003, 10:14
I agree, this one probably is a piece of shite. However, not all modded Maestros are. The one on my web site held the road like a limpet and would have given a 2***** a run for its money. I know JB, its still a scrabble wagon! :p

JB
03-07-2003, 10:17
Originally posted by Nicely
I agree, this one probably is a piece of shite. However, not all modded Maestros are. The one on my web site held the road like a limpet and would have given a 2***** a run for its money. I know JB, its still a scrabble wagon! :p

I remember driving one when they were new and being rather impressed at the time actually. Although the build quality was awful (I defy anyone to argue that point) it did handle very well compared to it's rivals. Could have used a bit more poke and a decent image though.

Nicely
03-07-2003, 10:26
Totally agree. Especially about the build. :rolleyes: My old one had a Rover 220 turbo engine producing about 220bhp. That was quite enough poke!

JB
03-07-2003, 10:32
The one I drove was just the ordinary MG not the Turbo. I gather they suffered from torque steer somewhat...

Nicely
03-07-2003, 10:37
The manufactured ones. :thumbs: Not the modded ones. :D Well scrabbly though... :sleep:

dunc
03-07-2003, 11:31
I'd love to slag off meastros but unfortunately the first ten of the best DVD speaks for itself :cry:

Mike_S13
03-07-2003, 12:39
Originally posted by JB
The one I drove was just the ordinary MG not the Turbo. I gather they suffered from torque steer somewhat...

Yep, on early cars the boost came in at around 2,800rpm, which resulted in loads of torque steer. Cars made after about '87, the boost came in higher up the rev range... about 3,200rpm to try to prevent this :)

Mike_S13
03-07-2003, 12:46
Just to prove all Maestros arn't shite :)

http://www.mgcars.org/mgm/mgm99/mgm9928.jpg

dunc
03-07-2003, 12:57
Originally posted by Mike_S13
Just to prove all Maestros arn't shite :)

http://www.mgcars.org/mgm/mgm99/mgm9928.jpg

Looks like its pretending to be a golf :p :p ;)

JB
03-07-2003, 13:03
Originally posted by Mike_S13
Just to prove Halfords sell stuff for Maestros too :)

http://www.mgcars.org/mgm/mgm99/mgm9928.jpg













:D :D :D

AshT_200
03-07-2003, 13:07
The build quality on the 500 genuine Turbos was better than the normal ones, since they were hand built at Tickford.

Oh and Nicely, nice engine bay.

http://www.nicely.dabsol.co.uk/mg/images/MG9.jpg

Nicely
03-07-2003, 13:26
:D

dunc
03-07-2003, 13:50
PMSL @ JB :D

Nicely
04-07-2003, 09:53
LOL! Yeah, I remember seeing this one. I remember thinking at the time 'must not do this'. :rolleyes:

mitch205gti
04-07-2003, 10:14
I've seen a white modded one at york drag way doing mid 12's, he even toyed with cossie's letting them get away then catchin them up and winning! First 2 gears were useless, 3rd half useless. Didn't look anything specail except for some stickers, Aquamist or something!

arry
06-07-2003, 23:32
I dont have any specific details cos i was too young and uninterested to take note, but a friend of my brothers from Jaywick had a modded maestro track car - and (i do believe him too, cos he's not ur max power neon washer jet freak type of guy) it was somewhere around the 285bhp mark and geared for 180mph!:cool:

He also had a turbo'd 2.8i Capri which was velly velly lovely:cool:

vega
06-07-2003, 23:35
I was considering a Turbo Technics Capri once :eek:

Dave_S
07-07-2003, 00:26
Originally posted by dunc
I'd love to slag off meastros but unfortunately the first ten of the best DVD speaks for itself :cry:

EXACTLY what I was thinking :eek: fcuking quick motor that :thumbs:

Dave

GT
07-07-2003, 00:33
Originally posted by arry
I dont have any specific details cos i was too young and uninterested to take note, but a friend of my brothers from Jaywick had a modded maestro track car - and (i do believe him too, cos he's not ur max power neon washer jet freak type of guy) it was somewhere around the 285bhp mark and geared for 180mph!:cool:

He also had a turbo'd 2.8i Capri which was velly velly lovely:cool:

Was it Mr. George Macmurdie, by any chance. His Maestro was v.quick, but his mods iddn't ring true and he was a conning bastid to boot.

jim potter
07-07-2003, 00:54
ah u no him 2.

small world aint it


jim

Dave_S
07-07-2003, 01:29
Originally posted by jim potter
ah u no him 2.

small world aint it


jim
speaking of which, gimme that DVD back you git :D

Dave

arry
07-07-2003, 08:05
Originally posted by GT
Was it Mr. George Macmurdie, by any chance. His Maestro was v.quick, but his mods iddn't ring true and he was a conning bastid to boot.

nah - his name's Tristian - or trash as some ppl call him. The maestro was red with "piranha racing" all over it IIRC

Dunno whether he sold it on to your guy?

I know for definite it was charge cooled - thats about as far as i got with the mods list

Nicely
07-07-2003, 08:27
Originally posted by jim potter
ah u no him 2.

small world aint it


jim Mmmm. I know him too, the little shite. I took him to court and he owes me two grand. :mad: Anyone got his home address?

JB
07-07-2003, 08:37
Originally posted by vega
I was considering a Turbo Technics Capri once :eek:

So was I. Dunno why cos I hated the Capri, but there was just something about the TT version that appealed :eek: :eek: :wack:

arry
07-07-2003, 08:40
Originally posted by Nicely
Mmmm. I know him too, the little shite. I took him to court and he owes me two grand. :mad: Anyone got his home address?

ruddy hell he gets around a bit then this geezer!

does he deserve a slap then? judging by owing you 2k id say yes :thumbs:

Nicely
07-07-2003, 09:26
Originally posted by arry
ruddy hell he gets around a bit then this geezer!

does he deserve a slap then? judging by owing you 2k id say yes :thumbs: Damn right he does. He landed up closing down his business cos so many people were after his blood. I understand he's taking the same approach with his new business...

GT
07-07-2003, 12:04
Originally posted by jim potter
ah u no him 2.

small world aint it


jim


He sold my brother an absolute shed of a Montego Turbo, had half the gearbox and engine mount bolts missing, although it oddly had a new mot supplied with it. 75 miles later it failed.
Go figure that one. Also head gasket went about a week later.
You could say he's a bit of a tosser.
Didn't he get banged up for ringing cars, he always had loads of cut up cars in his workshop?

I'll find the thread on the mg owners forum, where he proclaims his innocence and absolves himself of all blame.
Makes for an interesting read

GT
07-07-2003, 12:07
Originally posted by arry
nah - his name's Tristian - or trash as some ppl call him. The maestro was red with "piranha racing" all over it IIRC

Dunno whether he sold it on to your guy?

I know for definite it was charge cooled - thats about as far as i got with the mods list

That red Maestro belonged originally to Mr. George Mackmurdie, owner of MPI Motorsport, yes it was a quick car, although he used to tell people he raced it with the ecu disconnected. UGH?

It then turned up under the guise of Piranha Racing, once he got banged up, I think.

I think he was a fairly capable tuner, just his business etics sucked

Nicely
07-07-2003, 12:21
Originally posted by GT

I think he was a fairly capable tuner, just his business etics sucked Yeah. Won't go into my story, but it was a right saga! :rolleyes: He was being done for a couple of other things when I had him in court. Think that clinched the decision. :D

jim potter
07-07-2003, 17:39
niceley i must no you, as u seem to have had all the same problems as me. when did u own your monty/meastro turbo.???

i and a few of my freinds also no tristan , and i also no no about the thread on the mg board.:rolleyes:

speaking of mot's the day i got my car, was the day it was supposdly mot'd in london:o :mad:

go figure.

yeah i also heard he used to disconnect the ecu for racing, weird coz they dont usally run very well at all with it not their.


dave, shit sorry mate, im on days this week , so perhaps a game of 2 of pool and a beer, failing that i'll bring it tommorow.

cheers everyone

jim

GT
07-07-2003, 17:49
Ah, MPI Motorsport. The crock of shite that just won't lay down and die.

Apparently, Mr. Mackmurdie is alive and kicking in Bedfordshire somewhere. I reckon his mots were legendary. Feckin tosser

GT
07-07-2003, 17:50
Originally posted by Nicely
Yeah. Won't go into my story, but it was a right saga! :rolleyes: He was being done for a couple of other things when I had him in court. Think that clinched the decision. :D

I heard he got done for allsorts too, although no-one seemed very willing to disclose what he actually went away for. Very strange set of circumstances

Nicely
07-07-2003, 23:23
I believe one of the things was that a load of parts that he reported stolen and claimed insurance for were later discovered on his premises by the police.

This is his current venture: http://www.rovasystemsmotorsport.co.uk/indexx.html .

I believe he's living in Biggleswade, but can't get confirmation of his permanent address, or I'd get a warrant served on him.

jim potter
07-07-2003, 23:36
cant u have the warrent served on his business address. thought as long as he received it, then it was a done deal.

perhaps get a address from the web site

Nicely
08-07-2003, 00:26
I have a sneaking suspicion that nothing's in his name...

AshT_200
13-07-2003, 00:12
George Mackmurdie? Where do I start :mad:

That theiving faggot cnut. Sold me a shed of a Monty Turbo. Bought in Clacton MOT'd in London the day before (Jim Potter, you got the same :rolleyes: Go figure)

Although the disconnect the ECU thing, was true. It wasn't an ECU in the true sense of the word, it was adaptive ignition. Disconnect it and the timing would run from the distributor. Quite common on the drag MG Turbos, but the engines didn't last long on those. All disconnecting it would do is prevent the timing being retarded.

Nicely if you find him, I'll sponsor a kicking.:wack:

Leon
13-07-2003, 00:22
It amazes me that, on a forum dedicated to decent cars, so mcu h tiem is dedicated to discussing... well... maestros....

Nicely
13-07-2003, 08:01
I think that this thread shows that, for those that have actually driven one, the MG Maestro (2.0i and Turbo) were surprisingly good cars for their time, especially compared to their competition. Even today, they are capable of astounding things. People have a tendency to judge an entire model range on the failings of its cheaper models. Remember, the GTiR is in the same range as the Sunny....:rolleyes:

AshT_200
13-07-2003, 08:09
Originally posted by Nicely
Remember, the GTiR is in the same range as the Sunny....:rolleyes:


As is the Cosworth a Sierra......

And also for the Price of an Escrot RS Turbo new, you could get a genuine Maestro Turbo for the same sort of money.