Is the body kit the only main difference?

[dunc]

Is the body kit fitted the only difference between early s13's and later '93 models etc?

Or are there greater technical differences (not including different seats etc.)?

Dunc

[thomas]

Dear Dunc,
there was also a brake upgrade from 256mm to 280mm in the front (for Austrian S13).

Cheers,
Thomas

[Jezz_S13]

ABS became STD, LSD appeared, different wheels.
Mine has uprated smoke machine, not sure whether that was standard or not.

If you have a look at, http://www.parkers.co.uk/choosing/car_reviews/279/index2.htm and pages around there it may give you more of an idea.

Jezz.

[dunc]

The Parker website is good and told me what I wanted to know, cheers Thomas + Jez.

Dunc.

[Ripper]

Beware, some of the Parker's info' is b*llocks.

Anything SPECIFIC you wanted to know?

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Ripper

Grey '93 S13 Auto
Mods: Uprated smelly tree
Tree uprated at Ripper laboratories, Florida.

[Matt_S]

Approx Feb '92 was changeover I think.
Dont forget uprated turbo oil feed (still cack!), cat/charcoal canister, lambda sensor controlled fuelling/non adjustable afm, headlamp washers, lumbar support (again, cack!), leather gearknob/steering wheel bigger washer bottle (due to headlamp washers) platinum plugs, anyone with anything else?

Matt

[andyf]

See, it's not just brakes the man does ...

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http://www.afogg.demon.co.uk/sx-drift.jpg
Whoosh whoosh! 240bhp 200sx!

[dunc]

There is a few specific questions -

You say a lambda sensor was fitted after Feb '92, does this mean if you remove the CAT the fueling goes all to france on later models?

Are all the parts between the Pre '92 and the post '92 fairly simple to interchange between the two? i.e. the chassis was not changed to incorporate the new parts?

Third question - do these questions make any sense?

Cheers ,

Dunc...

[Jezz_S13]

Removing the cat wont make a difference as the lambda thingy is before the cat.

[Paul_Ralph]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Jezz_S13:
[B]ABS became STD, LSD appeared, different wheels.
Mine has uprated smoke machine, not sure whether that was standard or not.

my 90 model has the same uprated smoke machine so no change there.. :-)

[Avinitlarge]

LSD must have been optional, I learnt to my expense. DOH http://300zx.co.uk/200sx/ubb/frown.gif

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1989 S13
Private plate
K&N Filter
Bleed valve
Loadza Alpine ICE
Bumped on the front due to a stupid taxi driver

[mambastu]

I have an August '91 and its got half and half.

LSD
Facelift bumpers and interior.
No Cat ( http://300zx.co.uk/200sx/ubb/smile.gif)
No leather wheel and gear knob (Executive ?)
ABS
No aircon

[dunc]

Avinitlarge - It sounds like you have been. http://300zx.co.uk/200sx/ubb/biggrin.gif

What happened to your motor? Was it the taxi driver??

Dunc.

[Jezz_S13]

Air con wasnt standard until 94 when they were trying to flog the last few off.

No leather steering wheel, how do you cope. And gearknob too, what luxury I have without even knowing it.

LSD was standard from some point, just seems to make the back end go where the front end should be even sooner in the wet, great fun http://300zx.co.uk/200sx/ubb/wink.gif.

Jezz.

[docwra]

Eh?? Executive 92 models definately came with the leather bits and the Air Con
And what is LSD?? Other than the obvious of course ................
mmmmmmmmmmm yeah


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Stock (boo-hoo) 92 200SX
Never refuse a challenge!!

[Jezz_S13]

Limited slip differential, makes both wheels spin instead of just 1.

[docwra]

D'oh! I knew that one!
While Im here, how can I tell if the car is pre or post cat - its 92 model exec, and Im pretty sure it doesnt have a cat anymore, but spose it may have had one that got took off
I would look in the handbook, but I have misplaced it ............

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Stock (boo-hoo) 92 200SX
Never refuse a challenge!!

[Richy_Boy]

I have a 'so called' hybrid car. It was registers in Sep '91, has the new interior, front bumper, but has the old stylee brakes on the front. Ar$e.
Also anyone using 300zx calipers with standard 200sx (280mm) disks?

cheers

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Rich

180 to 210 BHP @???? rpm
S13 J reg Graphite Grey - ND200, Koni Adj., 17" wheelz, chassis dymanic springs, ND DV. Broken.

[dunc]

When I first got my car I could tell straight away that it had a CAT by the stink when I floored it.

I don't know how you could tell if it ever had a CAT fitted though.

[Jezz_S13]

Has it got a lambda sensor? its got three skiny wires going to it nad it's just back of the turbot.

[docwra]

And if its got the lambda sensor then it is cat, right??
Is it expensive to get one removed??

[Clong]

Originally posted by Jezz_S13:
it's just back of the turbot.

Ahhh, so the late version of the s13 has a fish fitted as standard http://300zx.co.uk/200sx/ubb/biggrin.gif. Now every thing is clear.

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1990 Blue S13
Mongoose 'zorst
K&N, ND Boost upgrade, Saab FMIC.`

[Jezz_S13]

You're better off leaving the Lambda thingy on as it prevents you engine running lean.

But yes you just unplug it if you don't want it to do anything, there is a harness not too far away from it, just follow the wires.

[docwra]

I was going to say - I can find the haddock and the bream, but not the turbot .......
Plenty of roach in my ride too ....... http://300zx.co.uk/200sx/ubb/wink.gif
Youve lost me though - does it not make any performance difference having a cat on the thang, or it does and I need a whole new exhaust system?

[Jezz_S13]

There is an ongoing discussion as to whether you can legally remove the CAT, I have a freind who is an MOT tester and he hasn't given me a straight answer yet.

The cat does make a performance difference, but probably not that much, the lambda sensor is not really anythingto do with the cat, it was just brought in at the same time as it allows the ECU to calculate whether the engineis running rich or not.

When it gets hot it produces a voltage between 0 and 1 depending on how much oxygen there is in the exhaust gas. The ECU interprets this and adjusts the injector timing accordingly and possibly the adv/retard too.

Hope this is clearer now, I'm off to sunny amsterdam to get sh!tfaced for the weekend now. Was nice knowing you all. http://300zx.co.uk/200sx/ubb/biggrin.gif http://300zx.co.uk/200sx/ubb/biggrin.gif http://300zx.co.uk/200sx/ubb/biggrin.gif http://300zx.co.uk/200sx/ubb/biggrin.gif http://300zx.co.uk/200sx/ubb/biggrin.gif