View Full Version : My Renault 5 turbo restoration project
Thought i'd share the reason i've been busy as of the last few weeks :smash:
So i took a gamble and brought the car off my cousin as a non runner, no mot or tax, water mixing with oil project
Spec is pretty much unknown but have found a few things:
Alloy header tank
ktec alloy carb top
mocal oil cooler
alloy degassing camber
ktec bored out turbo elbow
bigger alloy intercooler
samco silicone hoses everywhere
engine rebuilt back in 2006 new pistons+liners, bottom end rebuild
scorpion straight through exhaust system
clifford g5 alarm
Ecotek valve (removed as soon as i saw it)
This is how the car turned up on my door step after being towed,
Carb and turbo had both been removed and put in the footwell :)
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then i started work on the engine to get the liner seals changed and inspect the rest for damage
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Whilst waiting for parts to turn up from renault i decided to take the front bumper, front archs and side skirts.
Found a few medium size rusted through sections in the drivers outer sill and a small hole in the passenger side outer sill.
So far have cut out the rusted sections and put in new metal and welded it, seam sealed and painted with paint, got to do the rear of the drivers sill as the inner sill needs a bit of welding but need to drop the tank as its too close for my liking
Replaced both front wheel bearings and bottom ball joints as they were knackered
Then my bits from renault turned up :)
new heatshields as mine are missing
new headgasket kit
new rear window square trims as mine are falling apart
new sideskirt clips as most of mine have broke
Metre of brake servo hose as some knob has fitted a ecotek valve in mine
New coolant
Sump painted black by my brother
Also found out the whole car has dynamat everywhere
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Rebuilt the carb
Dinner trays are good for carb rebuilds :mrgreen: found out some muppet had got the accel pump spring wrong way around so it was sitting on the diaphram and would of split it sooner or later
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Then i got the engine all back together after cleaning the liner platforms (Drill wire brush attachment and flat screwdriver works wonders) new liner seals fitted, new headgasket
After much internet searching i found out where each samco hose should be
Engine bay now its fully functional but slightly smokey from turbo oil seal
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Turned him around so i can start work on the back end so took pics of the front end all rust treated and painted black
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Bolted the front bumper and pushed the broken grill back in place to look better for the moment
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Now i got to fix up the back end
drop fuel tank
do small bit of welding on sills
fix the fuel pump and filter on properly
fix a fuel pipe leak
make a new reserve tank strap
raise back end as currently sitting far too low
Got to sort out the interior aswell as its a bit of a mess :roll:
Then hopefully get it to work for a mot and i just need to get the turbo rebuilt and the car onto the rolling road for a fueling check and boost increase :mrgreen:
nice.. will be watching! :)
Finish it, finish it right now and get pics :D
Bahnstormer
16-08-2010, 22:05
Great little project :nod: Makes me want another one :D
Sweet, one of the first hot hatches I lusted after, very cool :nod:
Nice!
I was considering putting mine up for sale on here but didn't think anyone on here would be interested.
--Lorien--
16-08-2010, 22:15
I love these cars! I'll be keeping a watch on this one :thumbs:
have always like this even tho they are like a cereal box on wheels lol remember trying to get insured on one when i was 17 it was like 4k lol
crazyshad1
29-08-2010, 21:39
Great little cars and so easy to work on.
Bought one as a project a few years ago for the measly sum of a 100 quid.
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Stiffler
29-08-2010, 22:00
nice...when finished it should be a nippy go kart, much fun they weigh sh1t all :cool:
Ha ha,these things are awesome up to a ton:nod: just have fun with it until it blows up and then fix it for peanuts:D whites the best colour too:thumbs:
Turbo Gav
30-08-2010, 11:33
I saw this on the drive and wondered what you were up too ;) Getting so rare now....
spice_weazle
30-08-2010, 19:59
Cool project. I used to dream of having a Renault 5 turbo when I was driving around in my metro(:ghey:) when I was 17.
did a bit of filler and prep work where i had to weld in a new bit of metal on the top of the sill the other day during the week
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all primered ready for a rub down and lick of paint :nodyes:
And had a decent amount of progress today :)
Sill has been painted
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Drivers and passenger rear sections of sill holes has been fixed and strengthened so much its a new jacking point :D
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Then the front archs, sills, floor pan, boot floor pan basically everywhere under the car has been waxoyl'd super thick :)
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My reserve tank strap had rusted away and snapped and i wasnt going to pay £30+ delivery for one :shock:
So i went all blue peter on it :cool: Mine cost £0 :smash:
Cut away snapped strap from brackets
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Cut out length of metal from brothers crash austin mini
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Clean brackets ready for welding, Spot welded new metal strap to brackets, welding outside in the wind with a gas mig turned out half decent :)
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Temporary fit on car, bend strap to right place and measure the second bracket and mark where it needs to be welded on to get a nice tight fitting strap
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Spot weld second bracket onto metal strap and you should have something like this
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Then it got painted in etch and chassis black paint, and a nice sticky foam strip was cut to length to stop it rubbing through when its all bolted up :)
Then after arseing about with the exhaust to get it a perfect fit, took off the rear bumper started poking some holes and found some rather nice rusty holes to weld up :eek: So glad i brought a new reel of mig wire and gas bottle today :smash:
Provisional mot date is beginning of october fingers crossed if i don't go rust hunting again :D
seaside-racer
03-10-2010, 00:14
Used to always want one of these, remember my first drive in one it was awesome fun (the joys of working in a renault garage), i think out of all the renault hothatches this would be my favourite. Ill be watching this thread to see how it comes along :)
sweet buggy matey would love one., my bro has had heaps o them. will be good to see the progress
Great work so far, can't wait to see it finished.
In fact, this thread has given me a sudden urge to buy an r5 fry that I've not had since I was 17 :wack:
In fact, if I can find a cheap std one needing tlc it could be a cheap replacement for when I (sadly) sell the eunos in the spring!
God they are awesome.....Always wanted one and could never afford the insurance...Now i can afford the insurance, i cant afford the car! :(
must admit i haven't touch the car for ages
last time i worked on it a flap disc sanded the tip of my finger off (note drink responsibly not one handed grinding welds with beer in other hand)
just need to finish welding the rear arch around the fuel filler neck then put the outside back together but lacking effort :(
will be attempting to rebuild the turbo on it myself which could go.... well :D or horribly wrong :facepalm:
if i was to buy a r5 again i'd defo be looking at ones above 3grand and dry stored :wack:
Nice project mate, used to work on a few of these in my renault days. Great fun drive.
What headgasket did you use? Very prone to failing.
Cheers Aj
Make sure it has a banded IC if its a stock replacement, as these suffer with the IC's coming apart under pressure. Also get the head and blocks mating surfaces checked for being flat as these are renowned for being boil in the bag engines, I have rebuilt too many of these things lol.
only used a cheap £8 headgasket and reused the head bolts for the moment do have a renault headgasket in my spares collection
the engine is smoking so if rebuilding turbo doesnt fix it then guesses are on cracked head/valve stem seals
so off comes the head then the renault gasket is going on with some high tensile bolts
intercooler is a ktec or the other big name company cant remember, but i do have a binder full of invoices from many many years ago.
just a shame it got mistreated by the previous 17 owners on the log book :wack:
cardiff scum
23-10-2010, 21:52
Always hankered after one of these and white is always the best colour:thumbs:,sat in a few when they were pretty new and they never failed to impress( yeah im pretty old:wack:)
K-tecs the big name with 5's, turbos went on these quite easy fella. Also make sure that the turbo shield is on as I have seen a few burn due to the turbo cooking sound deadening.
Great work so far.
Sold mine pretty cheap in the end because it wasn't running properly, turned out to be a simple one-way valve on the back of the carb. Really glad to see the back of it though tbh because they really don't like being sat around gathering dust.
driftk1ng
14-12-2010, 18:12
ive had 3 of these beasts, go carts up to a ton. my last black one was good for 260 bhp with a host of k-tec goodies , i'd buy another one but gettin very rare now , nice car .
my old one
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good luck with it
ive always wanted one...closest i got was a 1.1 replica when i was 17 and my insurance was quoted £4k!
joeS13sx
03-01-2011, 18:19
epic! i'm in the process of buying one of these for a project off a mate :)
i decided to revisit my youth missus aint happy though lol
i had a phase 1 as my first car it was identical to this but had the Renault 19 16v rims whish i still had it:cry:
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sorry about the pic size
Many memories from uni days when traveling in the R5, wish I had one, still hanker today. Good luck with the project.
You'de be best off joining the rtoc. I've been a member for over 8 years and the guys on there constantly put the tuners to shame, all home built cars own any records for them. The quickest car ran a 10.3 @ 144mph, although that's a turbo converted 172 engine in a 5. The quickest UK c1j is now doing 125mph, while an Italian member is doing over 130mph on the c1j.
You'll soon find out a standard engine is capable of over 200bhp but you won't get over 250bhp with the carb in situ, many have tried and failed unless running nitrous. Don't for a second believe any of the tuners had 300bhp plus cars because they didn't, every home built member destroyed their et's and terminal speeds at Santa Pod many times over for many years.
There's also a big track day following on the owners club too, with good discounts.
spent all afternoon working on it with the bro
Picture of how he's sitting at the moment
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Doesn't look like much but we've done a fair bit.
Removed the tailgate as its rusted away
Removed the rear seats, drivers seat, boot carpet and under back seat carpet.
Removed the show roll cage.
Fixed the rust hole on the rear bumper mount and fuel filler neck mounting.
Fixed the captive nut so the bolt that holds the drivers seat frame to the body so it actually screws into something and the seat dont flap about anymore.
Hammered off all the renault sound deadening from the boot floor and rear arch sides ready for when the floor gets repainted white.
But i got pokey screwdriver happy and found another 2 rust holes
So i've crossed a few things of my to do list but added a few aswell doh! :)
You'de be best off joining the rtoc. I've been a member for over 8 years and the guys on there constantly put the tuners to shame, all home built cars own any records for them. The quickest car ran a 10.3 @ 144mph, although that's a turbo converted 172 engine in a 5. The quickest UK c1j is now doing 125mph, while an Italian member is doing over 130mph on the c1j.
You'll soon find out a standard engine is capable of over 200bhp but you won't get over 250bhp with the carb in situ, many have tried and failed unless running nitrous. Don't for a second believe any of the tuners had 300bhp plus cars because they didn't, every home built member destroyed their et's and terminal speeds at Santa Pod many times over for many years.
There's also a big track day following on the owners club too, with good discounts.
Rtoc was the first website i signed up and paid up membership for as i needed a engine hose layout diagram :notworthy
rising son
03-01-2011, 22:12
looks good .. always fancied 1 of these
I still go to a couple of the big meets, like the Pod day, where they rent out Santa Pod for the day to members. Great piss up and cheap usage on the drag strip, although I took my S14a last year:D
Mallory is also very good, they rent that out for the National day, although I couldn't say if they'll do it again this year.
I'm sure you know how knowledgable those guys are, but just as a taster, one of them works for the Renault F1 team, so they know their shit;)
Funnily enough, I went for a curry with quite a few of the old skool London based members last night (sounds weird me saying that as i'm 25 and all of them are 30 or over), and most of them have either bought Jap cars or German motors, but they still talk about projects they've bought or are planning.
started working again now the snows over
Before
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My little helper making sure i dont grind my fingers again
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And After
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Doesn't look like much but we've done a fair bit.
Removed the tailgate as its scrap but kept all the wiring safe.
Removed the rear seats, drivers seat, boot carpet and under back seat carpet.
Removed the show roll cage.
Fixed the rust hole on the rear bumper mount and fuel filler neck mounting.
Fixed the captive nut so the bolt that holds the drivers seat frame to the body so it actaully screws into something and the seat dont flap about . :lol:
Hammered off all the renault sound deadening from the boot floor and rear arch sides. :muahaha:
But i got pokey screwdriver happy and found another 2 rust holes
So i've crossed a few things of my to do list but added a few aswell doh! :)
The worst rusty hole less than 1 inch away from the rear seat belt mounting point :D
Some of the weld went shit near to the end as i ran out of gas and the gas regulator packed up :x
This is just the inside part of the panel i've fixed, got to do the part in the wheel arch tonight :)
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Oh and you can see where i removed some of the sound deadening on the arch and floor
Rear seat backs repainted black
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Interior going back in
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Shopping this morning got some new engine bits
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Took the rear windows out to change the 3 little rubber bits and well i'll let the pictures do the talking.......
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My newly paint floor is going to get ruined :( even tho it'll be recovered in sound deadening anyways
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Looks like the welder is coming out again..... surely there cannot be anymore rust after this?
It's French mate, there'll be more rust than metal.
nearly used a whole cut out austin mini rear quarter panel just fixing the rust on this car lol
progress so far this weekend
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Then started to fix all the messed up wiring loom and poor clifford g5 installation that was hanging down everywhere, so out came the dash and started re-tapeing the whole thing back into shape.
Removed all the scotch lock's and crap solder joints and replaced with heatshrink crimp connectors 8)
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--Lorien--
16-01-2011, 21:24
Nice progress! Should be a lovely example when you get done :thumbs:
Great work! Wish I had the time space and patience to have done something similar to mine.
small update :)
Bolted a new battery tray in.
Put a spare battery on
checked all the electrics work and everything seems good 8)
And it the engine still starts :D
Little video of it alive again albeit slightly smokey and idle a tad high
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oD_h_FQaw3I
Going to have to flush the oil as its gone a tad milky from where i couldn't drain the oil cooler so suspect it was full of water :roll:
Fitted new side skirt clips on the car and put the skirts and front arches back on and it looks like a 5 turbo again :D
MOT some time next month just need to sort the little things out first
Stiffler
23-01-2011, 17:29
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:thumbs:
ok the brakes wont bleed properly :furious: so i went out and brought a new master cylinder as it only cost £27 and the rear bias valve seems to be working fine
oh and a easy bleed kit as these like to be pressure bled :confused:
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Then got cracking on the wheel refurbing :)
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And the apprentice is doing bodywork stuff :)
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first time i used the camera since christmas :facepalm:
Just need to order tyres and sort insurance and its mot time :D
Well my brother has today and tomorrow off work for his birthday
so i was expecting him to play on his pc all day or something but..... instead he has gone and done a shit load of bodywork preping for me :mrgreen:
He shall be rewarded by supplying him curry form the local takeaway :)
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Cool lilttle project. I really wanted one of these after my Saxo VTR when I was 19/20, but got another classic Mini instead. Still not sure if that was the right move :wack:
awesomeness:nod: I love white R5GTT's. Is it staying white? are you gonna spray it yourself dude? keep up the good work:thumbs:
defo staying white, all the prep work is getting done at home but all the paint work and oven baking like the treatment the wheels got is being done for free at my brothers work
wheel paint is merc brillant silver, which has a blue tint to it in daylight
spice_weazle
19-02-2011, 15:03
If you want a spare wing let me know as I have a brand new front wing(passenger side I think) for a renault 5 turbo. Was given to me by a bloke at work after he cleared out a load of his step sons crap out his garage. He told me his stepson used to have a R5 turbo and said he doesnt see him any more and knew I was into my cars so gave me some bits to see if I could make use of any of it. As Im a bit of a magpie I took all I could.:D
my brother brought these home today
before picture of badges with lacquer peeling off and looking rather tired
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After
http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww235/fordy51/tommy%205/DSC_0136.jpg
Simple to do and i like shiney bits :wack:
diamondsink
23-02-2011, 15:00
Really nice, good to see your keeping it orignal
new rear brake compensator valve as i found mine was leaking,
copper fuel lines as my standard steel lines had cracked,
new rubber hose for good measure,
and a load of jubilee clips again for good measure,
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Compensator went on fine without a problem......But ..... I snapped a bleed nipple in the drivers rear caliper.... DOH! couldn't drill it out double DOH....
So off to the millfield motor factors for a new one for a lovely price of £70 and it came with a new pad carrier aswell :)
But now i have 2 new rear calipers, brakes that bleed properly and actaully stop. Also new fuel lines that don't leak out v-power quicker than it goes in lol
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Then I put in some engine flush to help get any water out of the engine/ oil cooler as theoil cooler hoses wont undo without breaking the line and cooler, so its had a flush and new oil fitted after a cheeky road test up and down the road to make sure it stops lol
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Then we got bored and a night free from the gf means as much time as we want to play.
So my bro finishes sanding the passenger side down and i got bored.....
Soooo i started ripping the black trim off the bumper, the brother wasn't too pleased as this now means he has alot more sanding and prep work to do muhahahaha
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I've got some Goodridge braided hoses, poly bushes (powerflex I think but not 100% sure) and a few other bits lying around if you are interested in any of them? Think I have a spare throttle cable and clutch cable too.
Great work on the wheels! :eek:
ooo interesting, how old are the braided hoses? and the poly bushes..are they the front lower arm bushes or arb bushes? also what prices are we looking at?
Dont need a throttle cable or clutch cable tho fella already got a new throttle cable and clutch is working so not touching it till it breaks lol
Brand spanking new hoses and bushes (although been sat in the garage for a couple of years).
I think they are the front lower arm bushes!
I have some new front pads too but can't remember the make. Guessing you have a Haynes manual already for it too?
Not quite sure on prices will have to see how much they're worth, I guess. Will take some pics and get back to you if that's cool?
I was planning to put them on with other mods to take it on track but ended up selling it. :(
Then the front archs, sills, floor pan, boot floor pan basically everywhere under the car has been waxoyl'd super thick :)
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Provisional mot date is beginning of october fingers crossed if i don't go rust hunting again :D
Cool project, mucho respect for fettling up a R5T :thumbs:
Why oh why though? Waxoyl :down: and underseal :( It's painful for me to see all this effort being pored in on an absolutely ace car, to be wasted with what I consider poor products :(:(
There are cheaper, and better products out there that will keep the tin worm at bay :thumbs:
R5T is a very cool car in my book :thumbs: Wish I had one :nod:
yeah there is better stuff i could of used but time/money was a issue.
Since the car will be only a weekend toy and tucked up in a garage when ever it rains the cheaper solution should do fine fingers crossed
quite a productive weekend, the bro has done well even if he did look like a albino earlier
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front bumper hasnt been touched other than ripping out the black rubbers.
thats most of the work we can do before getting it mot'd so i just got to put a drivers interior trim back on during the week and swap the wheels over for mot friendly ones,
Fingers crossed i make it to the mot station without having to call out rac to save me :wack:
love it!
I used to own one of these years ago, it was great fun :-) get ready to hear that clutch cable twang!
Well log story short,
friday i set off to the mot station and i got possibly half a mile away from my house,
gave it some boost in 2nd gear and didn't watch the boost gauge,
pulled up the a roundabout and cough cough cough yup running on 3 cylinders and smoking worse than ever with no power at all,
So drove it home at 40mph and a ozone killing cloud of smoke behind me.
compression, sparks and fuel all fine.....
So i blew the head gasket or a inlet gasket
Rather than mess about i stripped the engine down and this time going to build it properly rather than in 5 minutes
new turbo, piston rings, oil pump, liner seals, head gasket, head bolts, head skimmed and all the valves relapped in
the head has already had new guides by the looks of things and the valves look new too but it had a bend in the centre when checked with the straight edge so needed skimming
Got the head back from being skimmed today, and i've done the valve lapping
Spare cylinder head is screwed, det marks a plenty, corrosion pitting in the head and 3 or 4 valve seats beyond repair
few pics from the phone when stripping it down again
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other pics currently uploading
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Came home today find the last pieces of the puzzle i've been waiting for so now i'll post pictures up :)
So a run down of parts:
New Standard Turbo
Refurbished oil pump
Piston rings - brand matched to recent new pistons and liners
Renault valve stem seals
Uprated headgasket set "blue seal"
Conrod bearings in standard size
Exhaust mount
New oversized door pins
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Mate - you're no half measuring that are you :thumbs: Top stuff
Bottom end is all done and the sump back on sealing over night :)
Gave the piston tops a quick going over with scotchbrite to bring them back up clean
Old big ends
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Liners and pistons in
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Decided to use my little daddy 3/8 torque wrench on the big end nuts
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Old piston ring massacre :)
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ooo, lots of shiny bits! Looking forward to seeing it going. :thumbs:
Getting closer to being finished :D
Altho somehow the ht king lead has broke
And also i'm missing part of the oil return which i assume is still in my old turbo that got sent to cgb.....arse!
Was going to try get it mot'd on saturday but i doubt i'll get the part back from cgb in time :(
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Broken king lead :(
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My working conditions lol need to do some house cleaning soon me thinks
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You'll be glad to know he has recovered from his open heart surgery with flying colours :nodyes:
He did shock me through the new king lead while we primed the heart with fluids.... foook me, it made both my arms go up and outwards
Just had to adjust his pacemaker a little bit as it was running a bit fast and rich but now its at a nice healthy pace
I let him call his previous owner so they knew he had recovered
bare in mind this video
was taken on the first start of a newly built engine the smoke is just oil/crap burning off.
the tappets are noisy as they are set at 0.20 on both sides will redo them after mot.
the turbo was noisy as the gasket was from a t28 bodged on temporary and was leaking a little - soon fixed with a little exhaust paste :nodyes:
and it was running the old setup the mixture screw was wound out at least 1-2 turns and idle dropped to a nice level
Youtube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cjviuipPNY)
So now were upto date
Today he had his mot
Actaully got to my work so i beat my 1/2 mile record :D
Passed his mot ok
Only advisorys was
oil leak from sump (think the flywheel side half moon seal moved when the sump went up)
Antiroll bar bushes cracking
Slight play in steering rack internals
Had to slow the idle speed down and the co was 2.10 :D not to bad considering it was set by ear :)
now to fix an overboost issue and oil leak then its respray time :D
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Respray is in t-minus 2 weeks :wack:
Alot of prep work is still to be done on the body/doors,
The front bumper needs at least 2 full days on it to get it ready for paint :rolleyes:
Think my brother and i have biten off more than we can chew with only 2 weeks to get it done :facepalm:
Great cars, Ive had two of them :)
Small update
Only 5 days till its respray time :mrgreen:
The tables have turned now and my bro is telling me what to do now, since he is the bodyshop boy
Doing prep work at week nights and all this weekend
Not much left to prep at all but removing as much trims etc as possible to save time stripping and masking up
Garage cleared
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The Bro brought home some proper high build primer and tools etc
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Car masked up
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The Bro in action painting the front bumper
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Guide coat on bumpers
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Front bumper ready for paint
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Whole passenger side is ready for paint aswell but no pictures of it.
Only the door shuts left to scotch off
8)
Turbo Gav
03-04-2011, 22:26
Not long Adam and the PCSO's can chase you round the village too in the whizz pop!
think their too busy chasing corsas and saxos :wack:
well the car is pretty much fully prepped and whilst my bro was finishing off the passenger door shut....
I started to play
No grill at the moment as my old one is beyond repair so a new one is coming when i can afford it
Standard bonnet
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Bad boy louvered bonnet unknown origin?
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Come to the conclusion that it wont be used ever as,
1. the bonnet needs that much repair work i have no energy left to do it
2. it doesn't suit the car imo
3. my brother hates it and thus wont paint it for me
your brother is a man of standard and to be commended imo:D get a standard one on there mate!! in fact a friend of mine may have one from a max power front page feature car,I will ask him tonight:thumbs:
you need some clio 16v turbine wheels too:D
no to the 16v wheels their like rota's on 200's everyone has them
standard bonnet is already prepped and put back on and the louvered one in garden rusting away ;)
best i not show the gt tuning boot wing then :wack:
Looking really good this car.
In my opinion they are at their best when well kept and standard looking.
Will look good painted :nod:
RADS_S13
08-04-2011, 12:48
Just looked through all the thread nice work :thumbs:
Glad your not using the badboy bonnet although I like the louvers can't stand the angled bonnet exstentions lol
He's in the spray booth and omg its a big booth indeed
Seems like such a luxury to have so much room :D
Anyways pictures as always
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One tall booth
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Little shot of the stuff they have in for painting etc
They have a few redbull f1 racing units and even a few FIA trucks being worked on and a couple in the other booths
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So after a lovely 530 wake up after my brother had attacked me with a torch in my eyes and slapping my head to wake me
We finished the masking then gave it a final look over and quick prep of some areas
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Primered
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Final coat
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its not been flatted and polished yet so still a bit "factory finish" here and there but that'll all be done in a few weeks at home
8 o'clock start tomorrow morning reftting everything ready for the drive home where all the trims will get fitted on and cleaned etc
ive been quietly following this thread and really pleased to see the car getting paint now, good work mate be nice to see a rare minty fresh r5t.
Me too ;) Looking rather nice there. Can't wait to see it all back together. Hopefully the bacofoil (oops, I meant lovely Renault bodywork :wack:) will last a good few years with all that prep and restoration work :thumbs:
Yet another quiet follower here :wave:
Paint looks tidy, coming along well :thumbs:
He's back home after a little trip round to see my cousins and they love it :D
Gave them a kick up the arse to get their tungsten one back on the road
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Still a few trims to fit etc but the most has been done and we can have a rest for a week
BUT its not all good news! Like a true renault 5 it has a new problem.......
Its clutch has decided that with the newly rebuilt engine and all the new power plus a spirited drive home, the clutch didn't like it and started to slip on full throttle after 3k
So new clutch time yay....
Looking fantastic. :thumbs:
superb just went through the thread fantastic work looks great:notworthy
Love this project, Fantastic work & it will look great when finished i bet:whip:
Joey200sx
13-04-2011, 19:54
great colour! Loving your work. i have the same issue! dam clutch!
FANTASTIC work :)
Hope you dont mind, but I wanted to see a before and after shot together :)
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Chriscooke
13-04-2011, 21:09
ooooff, thats lovely :nod:
thanks for the comments everyone
He is doing well. I have done 60miles+ and he hasn't broken down yet :wack:
Slight scrubbage when hitting the odd bump thats with 2 tyres and 2 people in the car. Making me regret these cheap 55 profile toyo t1rs now :rolleyes:
Attempted to raise the back end tonight by starting on the side with no torsion bar grease cap on so thats nicely rusted solid :furious:
Going to need a big slide hammer to do this me thinks :smash:
Loving this, have followed from the start, great project :thumbs:
Gearbox is out with the engine in situ.
Its tight but not hard as i've not sworn at it yet this morning.
Big thanks to mike at gt turbo spares for the uprated clutch :cool:
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Bonnet and bumper off. Covers on and an no zips on trousers rule set down we like the paint work unscratched :)
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Gearbox removal
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Found my persistant oil leak - rear main oil seal wrong way round :wack:
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Found a possibly cause to my funny vibration at 50mph :eek:
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Yup thats a hole in the diff and some pretty deep grooves,
The shaft bearings looks fine and theres no pieces floating in the other half of the diff...
On the hunt for a new one might try scrappys tomorrow
If no luck then i'll put it all back in and buy one from renault and do it in situ with the shaft out
So the list of things found wrong:
No roll pin in o/s driveshaft
Rear main oil seal fitted wrong way round causing my oil leak thats gone over the flywheel and clutch
Gearbox n/s diff section has a hole in it and deep grooves
The bro did some cleaning while i removed the gearbox
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Now to de-grease and repaint the box silver casing and black end cover like it should be :whip:
itrhondaboy
29-04-2011, 16:38
Never been a fan of the r5 gt but blimey even I'd love that! Great work :thumbs:
Any spare turbo system bits give me a shout as I'm building a k10 carb turbo Micra, just got an r5 intercooler and a t3 :)
ahh k10 turbo, i used to have 2 k10s one 1ltr and 1 1.2 super s, still got loads of spares kicking about, spare set of super s dials albeit with a crack in the clear plastic and maybe have the wiring looms not sure, front strut brace, erm loads more i think
itrhondaboy
29-04-2011, 21:16
ahh k10 turbo, i used to have 2 k10s one 1ltr and 1 1.2 super s, still got loads of spares kicking about, spare set of super s dials albeit with a crack in the clear plastic and maybe have the wiring looms not sure, front strut brace, erm loads more i think
Strut brace for a k10? I'd be very interested in that! I was going to cut up a k11 one to try get it to fit
Yup its a proper k10 one took me fooking ages to find one, its been repaint in tesco blue by my brother and it just hanging up in my garage on the wall.
I'll grab some pictures of it tomorrow fella
itrhondaboy
29-04-2011, 21:58
Yup its a proper k10 one took me fooking ages to find one, its been repaint in tesco blue by my brother and it just hanging up in my garage on the wall.
I'll grab some pictures of it tomorrow fella
Awesome I'm skint for the next couple weeks but after that I'll definately have it off you providing you don't want a grand for it ;)
its been in there for 3 years so i'm in no rush to get rid of it fella will reply to your pm with pictures and a price + postage etc
todays progress so far
http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww235/fordy51/tommy%205/IMG_20110430_110616.jpg
Right way round now :roll:
http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww235/fordy51/tommy%205/IMG_20110430_120743.jpg
http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww235/fordy51/tommy%205/IMG_20110430_120755.jpg
http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww235/fordy51/tommy%205/IMG_20110430_125351.jpg
Went on the hunt for a new diff gear and went to the local volvo scrappy as it was the only one open today :roll:
there is a few good 440 turbos in here hiding
http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww235/fordy51/tommy%205/IMG_20110430_140452.jpg
Rolled over a 440 1.8 no turbo and got to work
http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww235/fordy51/tommy%205/IMG_20110430_143059.jpg
Oh yeah no more holes
http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww235/fordy51/tommy%205/IMG_20110430_150802.jpg
found this awesome idea on the same gearbox, Return spring on the gearbox rather than the linkage. so far it seems to work fine
http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww235/fordy51/tommy%205/IMG_20110430_151429.jpg
Gearbox in
http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww235/fordy51/tommy%205/IMG_20110430_154857.jpg
Got a mega headache so come in for a rest and tablets so this is as far as i am now
http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww235/fordy51/tommy%205/IMG_20110430_180246.jpg
itrhondaboy
30-04-2011, 23:46
Ok cheers dude
finished off today
Bailey dump valve removed after finding it was leaking when we was cleaning it
http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww235/fordy51/tommy%205/IMG_20110501_113033.jpg
Then we found out a knocking noise from the drivers front wheel when pulling it in and out at the top
Found both top mount bolts loose enough to move
Tried undoing one and it snapped
So off with the drivers strut which turns out to be koni adjustables then ground off the captive nut and rewelded a new nut to the bracket
Refitted it and took out the passenger sides and copper greased them up for good measure and jobs a gooden
Then we decided to put the strut brace on since "fingers crossed/touch wood" all the engine work is done
http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww235/fordy51/tommy%205/IMG_20110501_133203.jpg
We then cleaned up the earths on the front of the car and put the bumper and bonnet back on
http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww235/fordy51/tommy%205/IMG_20110501_141225.jpg
Took it for a spin up to tesco and treated the car to a full tank of 99 octane, then popped round to halfords for a new clio rear wiper blade and some satin black so we can paint the wiper arms next
Feels good being able to give it full throttle in any gear without having to worry of it slipping anymore
yetis200sx
01-05-2011, 19:25
good work mate thats a great scrappy as i have had many parts for my 340 valver project :D top job
dan_bourne
02-05-2011, 09:04
quality thread, just read it from start to finish, you have the added accolade that i have never done this before! i love french hatches, i was always into 205 gti's tho, but did look at a r5t!
New grill has turned up
http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww235/fordy51/tommy%205/IMG_20110510_170530.jpg
Bargain price even with mates rates as i know the parts bloke :wack:
http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww235/fordy51/tommy%205/IMG_20110510_170538.jpg
Brother will be painting the grill sometime this week for me.
In the meantime he has supplied me with a 1275cc Mini A series engine block.
Which i need to start building into a turbo block as payment for his help/paintwork on the 5 :rolleyes: nothings ever for free :facepalm:
Time to update
Grill painted and fitted on, it finally has a sexy looking face rather than a black hole
http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww235/fordy51/tommy%205/IMG_20110512_173942.jpg
Then plugged the aem uego on
Majorly lean as boost hits :(
So ordered a new fpr from renault
http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww235/fordy51/tommy%205/IMG_20110514_125155.jpg
Which didn't fix it.. DOH! :facepalm: oh well its another shiney part fitted :wack:
So onto the lean issue
Tried a few things like accel pump adjustment - no difference :(
Whilst doing a power run down the road the accelerator cable fell out the linkage :rolleyes: - fixed on roadside :D
Found a nice major oil leak from the rocker going onto the exhaust making a bit of smoke
So after that i got moody...got home and put the car in the garage (Its favorite place)
Took off the strut brace, rocker cover and carb
Fixed the rocker cover leak
And proceeded to strip down the carb + a good spare on in the garage that hasnt been used for a while
http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww235/fordy51/tommy%205/IMG_20110514_212248.jpg
And found this little bugger was semi blocked
http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww235/fordy51/tommy%205/IMG_20110514_212254.jpg
So swapped it out for a good spare, and reset the accel pump with a 5mm drill bit
Then i thought lets go for a bar of boost, so swapped the ac jet for a 1mm and drilled the 2nd stage to a 1.2mm and fitted everything back together.
Just need to get a new fuel filter and bleed the coolant and see what we have tomorrow on the aem... fingers crossed at 10psi it overfuels enough for me to up the boost a little to 14 psi :D
Still dont know if its fixed the lean issue but i know it is clean and polished :D
http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww235/fordy51/tommy%205/DSC_0375.jpg
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http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww235/fordy51/tommy%205/DSC_0374.jpg
few of the bros mini aswell :)
http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww235/fordy51/tommy%205/DSC_0462.jpg
http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww235/fordy51/tommy%205/DSC_0438.jpg
http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww235/fordy51/tommy%205/DSC_0447.jpg
Looking good :) are you still interested in braided brake lines and bushes etc? Can take some pics if needed.
completely forgot about them :facepalm:
if you could pm with some details and pics i'll probably have them :)
Looks great, as does the min :thumbs:
amazing! aint been on here in a while and just read it start to finish!
Good job, no half measures there! very tidy R5 :thumbs:
completely forgot about them :facepalm:
if you could pm with some details and pics i'll probably have them :)
Cool, it'll have to be some day late next week as I can't get to the garage at the moment. :)
Is the 5 running 100% now?
its running great atm, tappets are a bit rattly but i cba to adjust them just yet
Rolling road video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLjcU_UHDlQ&feature=player_embedded
Print outs.
Flywheel power and torque 133.6bhp and 166.7ftlb
http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww235/fordy51/tommy%205/Flywheel.jpg
Wheel power and torque 109.5bhp and 136.6ftlb
http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww235/fordy51/tommy%205/Wheels.jpg
need to raise the boost a bit more and think about ignition timing control, tweek the tdc sensor or chuck a megajolt on it or an adaptronic ecu
Should be much better and less of a spike of power when i've changed to a better boost controller rather than the bleed valve i had kicking about and used in a rush :D
Nice. :) Do you have any major plans for the engine or is it just a "see how it goes" car?
Have you seen Scoff's 5 on RTOC? It's got a 182 engine with a turbo strapped on it, running quarter miles in the 10s last time I looked. :eek: :eek: :eek:
The bits I have are here by the way:
http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z309/silane/2011-06-14210424.jpg
Mintex 1144 Pads
Polyrace Front Lower Wishbone Bush
Polyrace Inner Roll Bar Mount
Polyrace Outer Roll Bar Mount
Goodridge Braided Brake Hose Kit
Genuine Renault clutch cable
:)
Hey Bud, Cracking job there, i love that paint booth!!! wow!
Car is lovely, always wanted one of these back in the day, but they were all very high maintenance, and renault are thieves!!!
My best mate had one of these back in the 90's when we were at Uni. He had a similar bonnet with the Louvres (not bad boy :wack: ) A company called cool Louvres used to do them, and you could chose how many and where you wanted them :thumbs:
GT tuning was also used by him, and he had a bare shell respray in BRIGHT ferrari red, very nice.
Carisma was up and coming then, only a small company.
He had endless problems with his too.. i remember on the way back from brighton one day, the heat shield caught fire :eek: and we put it out using a bottle of coke :wack:
Endless pit of money that car :D one thing worth checking is the fuel pump, i remember his was dying and he had intermittant problems.
OK well where do i start since the rolling road
Tappets got really noisy, so aroudn 600 miles on the engine thought a reset tappets and fix the poxy rocker cover leaky fibre washers would be good
So stripped it all down started to adjust and then thinks why is the cylinder 2 rocker shaft bolt moving grabed the bolt and it pulled straight without any effort
The threads stripped out completely which i can only think back to when i missed and gear and over rev'd it alot
So i helicoiled and put a new bolt in job done i thought?...... nope turning both cylinder 2 push rods they have a very slightly bend in them
So adjusted it up for now and the engine still idles sweet and drives smooth.
http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww235/fordy51/tommy%205/IMG_20110612_175259.jpg
Forward on a few weeks of the car being garaged up not being drive to today..
The day before i go to modified live at brands hatch....thinking i could get a 20 mins session with the 5
So got to work all good no leaks
Drive home was great, driving it quite quickly on the motorway overtaking and listening to radio 1 loudly... slow down for my slip road
WTF is that noise... sounded like a grrrrrrrrr, so change into 4th and noise gone change back into 5th and grrrrrrrr
Still got drive in 5th so thought maybe the nut had worked loose
Got home jacked it up f1 pit crew styley
Within 10 mins the cover was off and foudn the problem, it soon came clear that I wont be taking the 5 to brands hatch tomorrow or being able to drive through dartford tunnel on the way home
5th gear nut is tight but 5th gear is missing a few teeth look in the cover and found the teeth and some needle rollers from a bearing in there
http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww235/fordy51/tommy%205/IMG_20110624_173124.jpg
http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww235/fordy51/tommy%205/IMG_20110624_173159.jpg
http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww235/fordy51/tommy%205/IMG_20110624_180732.jpg
Now the count down begins as the car is booked for snetterton track day taster on the 24th of july
So i need to get a gearbox in for that as a temp fix or swap 5th gear over and hope the rest of the box is fine or find a good refurbed box to put in
Silane, you'll have to let me know how much you want for all them parts as i do need all of them but atm i need a gearbox :wack:
:eek: So what happened? Did that happen whilst changing gear?
well i found 5th gear oil feed pipe has sheered off the cover at some point so looking at the bits in the cover there is a needle roller bearing which i think has failed and took the gears out at the same time
strangly it still selected 5th fine just a made a bit noisy :wack:
Right busy evening for me
Went over to cambridge to collect my win on ebay and i've scored alot more than i thought
won on ebay
head
gearbox
carb
loads of interior switchs
+ got given for free
a set of push rods
inlet manifold
exhaust manifold
water pump + housing
fuel regulator
rocker cover
uprated head bolts which i'll bin as new ones are cheap enough
Manky looking Gearbox
http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww235/fordy51/tommy%205/IMG_20110628_205915.jpg
Head + manifolds
http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww235/fordy51/tommy%205/IMG_20110628_205923.jpg
Rocker cover + push rods + uprated head bolts
http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww235/fordy51/tommy%205/IMG_20110628_205930.jpg
T2 turbo going away to be made into a t25/t2 hybrid = more power :biggrin:
http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww235/fordy51/tommy%205/IMG_20110628_205945.jpg
Carb that needs tlc
http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww235/fordy51/tommy%205/IMG_20110628_205959.jpg
Stripped the head down to a bare head, valves and springs ready for measuring thickness and straightness then of for a crack test and skimming in the future when money allows
Gearbox stripped down
Cover is good and 5th gear is fine :D just need to find out how to swap them in situ as this gearbox is too manky internally to put in the car
Taught the bro how to strip a 5 carb and check jet sizes. its all standard jets so i'll be ultrasonic tanking it to make it uber clean through out and treating it to gasket set
been having a go trying to get these gears off with no pullers that fit at home
Screwdrivers + blow torch and hammer = :D
5th gear and everything is off :D
http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww235/fordy51/tommy%205/IMG_20110630_180127.jpg
http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww235/fordy51/tommy%205/IMG_20110630_180136.jpg
Now time to order a curry from the local and then take the one off the car in situ, this could get interesting :eek:
Might have the car back for the weekend at this rate 8)
Might have an issue
Doner 5th gear's are different sizes, thickness, design and ratio's, to what i have on the car
The doner is jb3 032 and the one in the car is jb3 014, both have the same diff ratios and gear ratios so they should be the same, yet visually there different gears
So did a bit of checking and i think someone has swapped mine over before for maybe a campus gearset at some point as thats the only guess i have as to why they are different and the reason behind me finding bits of needle roller in the casing with the gears
After finding what other bits i need to swap to make it work without grinding the casing it was all put back together with loctite
Broken needle roller casing
http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww235/fordy51/tommy%205/IMG_20110630_194440.jpg
Broken 5th gear teeth
http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww235/fordy51/tommy%205/IMG_20110630_194804.jpg
Broken vs new
http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww235/fordy51/tommy%205/IMG_20110630_194514.jpg
5th gear difference between new and old
http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww235/fordy51/tommy%205/IMG_20110630_194643.jpg
5th gear teeth design difference
http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww235/fordy51/tommy%205/IMG_20110630_194820.jpg
Difference between other gear of 5th between old and new
http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww235/fordy51/tommy%205/IMG_20110630_194658.jpg
Back together
http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww235/fordy51/tommy%205/IMG_20110630_201848.jpg
http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww235/fordy51/tommy%205/IMG_20110630_201855.jpg
Good vs bad end covers
http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww235/fordy51/tommy%205/IMG_20110630_202526.jpg
Update time
Been giving him some tweeking over the last week while he's been garaged up after a 2 week daily use mission with no problems :eek:
Replaced all the blowns dash button bulbs and dial bulbs now i can see what i'm pressing
Strut brace is back on
Fiddled with the carb enrichment pump adjustment
Carried out the "cup" mod now boost is up to around 16-15psi
Then last saturday the track prepping began for snetterton track day
Took him out after putting in 200ml of millers extra cool (3.6% mix with renault premix coolant and a bottle of millers octane booster to stop any det that may come with the increased heat from 20 mins of abuise
Coolant temps are now alot more steady than before.
When giving it some abuise the temp moves up a little but not half as much as before but the temp comes down alot quicker than before so its doing its job well :cool:
Adjusted the brake bias as it was majorly to the rear so i could bed the new pads and disc's in. So now its more to the front.
Changed the oil aswell still using mineral oil for now as its working fine and i want to make sure its bedded in 100% as i've only done 950 miles since i built the block, will wait till around 1500 miles before i start using semi synth
Then some pictures from snetterton
Got some pictures sent to me from sunday
http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww235/fordy51/tommy%205/DSC_4397.jpg
http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww235/fordy51/tommy%205/5971831618_b4cc12d78d_b.jpg
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The car survived so we was happy
http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww235/fordy51/tommy%205/5971833140_7b78c1cf1d_b.jpg
also a video where you can see where i slowed to let my mates mini overtake me @ about 5 minutes in ( mini looked great overtaking and then the R5 overtaking the mini after it overheated @ around 8 minutes
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Braided lines, and full polyrace bush kit
http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww235/fordy51/tommy%205/IMG_20110726_171310.jpg
Excuse the manky oily subframe its just what is left from the gearbox overhaul.
Had to shave off a few mm off the wishbone bushes with a grinder to make them fit into the subframe without having to bring out the big hammer.
Wishbone bush was red but after burning out the old bushes it was hard to keep my hands clean
http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww235/fordy51/tommy%205/IMG_20110802_183208.jpg
Antiroll bar end bush
http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww235/fordy51/tommy%205/IMG_20110802_183216.jpg
Antiroll bar mounting bush
http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww235/fordy51/tommy%205/IMG_20110802_183224.jpg
Then the brakes were next as they were pants on track and faded to nothing on the 3rd lap
So an order was placed...
Brembo discs £23 delivered from next day brakes :D
And
Carbone lorraine rc5+ pads from Ktec, which i will use for track days only and swap over to normal pads for any everyday stuff or driving to static car shows
http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww235/fordy51/tommy%205/IMG_20110802_182859.jpg
Pads look so yummy
http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww235/fordy51/tommy%205/IMG_20110802_182755.jpg
Baby size brake discs
http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww235/fordy51/tommy%205/IMG_20110802_183002.jpg
So with the rear calipers already replaced a while back i felt the need for more shiney bits and since the front calipers are the only ones left on the car which were old, manky and had a slightly sticky piston on the passenger side....
2 new front calipers turned up aswell
http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww235/fordy51/tommy%205/IMG_20110802_183038.jpg
Then tonight i have been swapping over the old red dot pads and unknown discs for my new shiney brakes
New stuff fitted
http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww235/fordy51/tommy%205/IMG_20110802_193055.jpg
Old brake disc not looking very healthy at all
http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww235/fordy51/tommy%205/IMG_20110802_193024.jpg
Now i'm just waiting on some brake hose securing clips from renault as mine will probably fall to bits as soon as i go near them lol and it would look wrong having new hoses and old manky clips.
Then its back to the rear axle in an attempt to raise it up a few mm or so but that will be next week's mission
After begging the boss for time off,
i've booked a couple of taster sessions so i can shakedown the car with the new stuff on
30th August at bedford autodrome on the gt circuit
8th september will be the return to the great snetterton 300
If all goes well without any big problems then i'll start doing some full day track days :cool:
love it, have a bit of a soft spot for 5 turbos,
after a chat with a friend who rallys one i will basically just pass on the message to you from him,
"throwing away the stock carb and installing injection is the best thing ive ever done, its increased drivability, low down torque, up top power and throttle response"
all hes done is installed the injection system from an R19 16v with a mappable piggyback ecu. had some injector bosses welded into the stock manifold, and fitted a throttle body to where the stock carb used to be.
he is propperly good at setting up and tuning the origional carb set up but hes totally sold now with the injection and wishes hed never spent so long pissing about with the carb,
he runs 240bhp with the t25 turbo and its an absolute animal, i do still chuckle when i see all the scary mess of pipes etc under the bonnet of the R5, its scary to look at let allone work on ha,
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