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SMiFFAD
25-06-2003, 10:46
OK, i am bored, and am interested in this:

If you had a gun put to your head (bradfod massive stylee :D) and were forced to choose one of the above, which would it be...........

Bearing in mind your not allowed to sell it and buy something else, you gotta keep it and drive it with pride :D

Jezz_S13
25-06-2003, 10:49
what an evil question!

SMiFFAD
25-06-2003, 10:52
Originally posted by Jezz_S13
what an evil question!

Just trying to see if anyone else hates boxters with a passion :D

Jezz_S13
25-06-2003, 10:54
boxters are the porsche equivalent of the BMW 316ti compact.

Johnny
25-06-2003, 10:55
errr ... boxter anyday ??

1) They make a quick one
2) Looks like you have more money than sence
3) Gives you access to pulling another 1% of girls that are impressed by the Porshe badge
4) Its not a squashed beetle
5) The "S" is actually quite a good car dispite looking like a candidate for a Gay Pride Mascot competition
6) The Transmission loss on a Boxter is about half that of a TT
7) The Boxter Handles ..... the TT just uses 4wd to drag itsself around corners
8) ....... I wouldnt want the image that the TT gives you .... as people pass and think ....... "Ahhhhh ... didnt have enough money for the Boxter huh ???"


TT ........... ppppft ..... what sort of poll is this ?

Paul_S13
25-06-2003, 10:55
BANG! :D

moondog
25-06-2003, 10:55
it'd have to be the boxter, at least you donut it until the tyres blew up, then drive it on its rims until they snap off, then drive it on brake discs until they break!!!!!!

that'll teach it to be so gay:p

SMiFFAD
25-06-2003, 10:55
Originally posted by Jezz_S13
boxters are the porsche equivalent of the BMW 316ti compact.

So built for wannabes who cant / wont buy a proper car :D


(not trying to insult anyone - just hate the damn things)

DanS14
25-06-2003, 11:00
Voted for boxster, cos of good rep and friend's impression after driving an "S"

I drove a 225 TT the other week and came away bored and uninspired. It was quiet, very comfortable ridewise and refined like any Audi and that seemed wrong. Brakes were nastily spongey on the one I drove too.
It just did not drive sportily, and did not feel quick at all - there was no buzz of acceleration or excitement gained from holding your foot down.

I know the boxster has no rear seats, but the TT ones are a complete joke. I managed to get in the back, twist my knee til it hurt, then realised the only reason my head was upright was because my head was sticking out the open rear hatch. I'm 5'4" by the way. The dealer helped me get out.

Saying that though, the V6 and the twin clutch 'box are meant to be great!

Rob wastegate
25-06-2003, 11:02
people who buy boxters buy them because they cant afford a proper porsche

Will Taylor
25-06-2003, 11:04
Never liked Boxters. Plasticky look inside, uninspired looks - 911, only watered down. Not enough performance for the badge, ignoring the S type ones.

I reckon that TTs will be alright to modify, and get some decent power outta them. They are gorgeous inside, the external looks are quite original, even if they are clit cars (every cnuts got one)...

Vez
25-06-2003, 11:06
Eh, I'd chose the Porsche regardless?

I actually want a Boxter. Have you ever Driven one? They are absolutely fantastic cars, the sound, blanace, power delivery, road hoding, quality and build are brilliant, and they look cool too!!

Vez
25-06-2003, 11:08
Cant afford a propper porsche, the New 'S' is faster in every repect than the entry level 911.

The Boxter is the best Handling and most balanced out of all present porsches bar the GT2 GT3's.

Johnny
25-06-2003, 11:09
Originally posted by Rob wastegate
people who buy boxters buy them because they cant afford a proper porsche

Nothing wrong with that ...... I bought the 200sx because I couldnt afford a proper Porshe. :rolleyes:

Dave H
25-06-2003, 11:12
Originally posted by Vez
Eh, I'd chose the Porsche regardless?

I actually want a Boxter. Have you ever Driven one? They are absolutely fantastic cars, the sound, blanace, power delivery, road hoding, quality and build are brilliant, and they look cool too!!

Me too. nowt wrong with them IMO, makes me laugh when people say they are gay etc, they are a proper porsche, not a 911, but streets ahead of the 944/968 etc and any jap car you'd care to mention :p

Aunty's got one (Boxster S), had a go a couple of weeks back and was seriously impressed :thumbs:

mambastu
25-06-2003, 11:12
The bullet definitely, I wouldn't waste my money on either

Johnny
25-06-2003, 11:16
Originally posted by Vez
Eh, I'd chose the Porsche regardless?

Have you ever Driven one?


Drove a mates "S" last month ............... Woah ... Wish my ***** handled like that ... awesom power delivery ..... so much grip .... and the rasp from them is sooo sweet.

Stops something chronic as well .......... Its all ok putting bigger brakes on the 200 ... but all that did was make the abs come on sooner ...... this thing goes from 150 to 0 ..... without making you sh1t your load :D :D :D :D

I thought the Elise handled better .... but the Porshe had buckets more power ... oh and brake servos !!!!

SMiFFAD
25-06-2003, 11:19
give the choice between my 200 and a brand new boxter i would keep mine......

just because of the image i have of them, i dont think i have ever gone on a journey and NOT seen one, i just see hundreds of them around.

Vez
25-06-2003, 11:20
Exactly my point, the TT is Golf and was never meant to be quick, the Porka is an out and out Sports car, and I will back the above statment up as I too have driven a recent S, and they are magic....

And the Drive train noise is Soooo Sweeeeeet, a Porsche Trademark :D

Will Taylor
25-06-2003, 11:20
I'll get my coat :(

Vez
25-06-2003, 11:22
Id swap for a Boxter at the drop of a hat, it'll keep running for decades with little care and attention, Porsches are built to last!!

SMiFFAD
25-06-2003, 11:23
Originally posted by Vez
Id swap for a Boxter at the drop of a hat, it'll keep running for decades with little care and attention, Porsches are built to last!!

Should imagine youll be charged about a grand just to drive it into their service dept, without them even touching it :)

Johnny
25-06-2003, 11:28
Originally posted by smiffad
Should imagine youll be charged about a grand just to drive it into their service dept, without them even touching it :)

At least when they did touch it though, they would probably fix it ... instead of the Datsun Monkeys that we have to deal with.

(Thank god for Norris Designs being on my doorstep .... )

Vez
25-06-2003, 11:29
It may shock you to learn that a Porsche service is around the same price as a BMW one, which co-incidently is cheaper than a Nissan Service!! Audi take the biscuit for most expenisve service with an oil and filter change on an S2 costing £180!!!

SMiFFAD
25-06-2003, 11:29
Originally posted by Johnny
At least when they did touch it though, they would probably fix it ... instead of the Datsun Monkeys that we have to deal with.

(Thank god for Norris Designs being on my doorstep .... )

True, but i never go nea a nissan garage, dont think you could do that with a box...just run it down your local mechanics :D

SMiFFAD
25-06-2003, 11:30
Originally posted by Vez
It may shock you to learn that a Porsche service is around the same price as a BMW one, which co-incidently is cheaper than a Nissan Service!! Audi take the biscuit for most expenisve service with an oil and filter change on an S2 costing £180!!!

It did shock me to find out a stock M3 service was about £1K :)

SMiFFAD
25-06-2003, 11:46
like it, more people have opted for the bullet option than the TT :D

shadowninja
25-06-2003, 11:46
there is one advantage to a TT... you can tune it up. I hear you can get 400bhp quite easily (swap out the standard turbo for a start)...

hadyn
25-06-2003, 11:58
id buy a second hand skyline GT-R from japan with the money!! fcuk all that crap!!

Rob wastegate
25-06-2003, 12:00
i second that

TAS
25-06-2003, 12:15
I love porches.... but I HATE the boxter!

206xy
25-06-2003, 12:27
TT's are much sexier than the boxster, my uncle has a boxster and he just looks like a dirty old man.

It would have to be a black TT Convertible yum yum...............

hadyn
25-06-2003, 12:28
the convertible TT's look worse than the hard-top TT's in my humble opinion

206xy
25-06-2003, 12:33
The convertible breakes up the bubble shape. Otherwise it can be tricky to tell the front from the back....

Any way i must stick up for smiffad on this one, porsche's are poop and only bought by men who know nothing about cars apart from the badge. sorry getting a bit aggressive.

hadyn
25-06-2003, 12:34
nothing wrong with getting aggressive, as long as its done in the right way!!! ;)

SMiFFAD
25-06-2003, 12:35
Originally posted by hadyn
nothing wrong with getting aggressive, as long as its done in the right way!!! ;)

Hayden, dont wink at my girl friend :mad: :p

Vez
25-06-2003, 12:36
Men who know nothing about cars?

Porsches are one of the best engineered and performing cars on the planet, one of the last bastion of true supercar producers.

A TT is quite simply a GOLF FFS! and I'd rather have a Golf than a TT!

hadyn
25-06-2003, 12:36
ill go and slap myself silly for that outrage smiffad :wack: ;)

SMiFFAD
25-06-2003, 12:37
Originally posted by Vez
Men who know nothing about cars?

Porsches are one of the best engineered and performing cars on the planet, one of the last bastion of true supercar producers.

A TT is quite simply a GOLF FFS! and I'd rather have a Golf than a TT!

Boxter - supercar, ha haaaaaaaaaaa ah ha *smith picks himself off the floor in fits of laughter*



;)

206xy
25-06-2003, 12:40
vez- okay i might have been a bit harsh but all my dads business partners etc have bought boxsters purely because of the yuppy badge. Obviously not all porsche drivers are like that.

Vez
25-06-2003, 12:57
I didnt state that boxters were supercars smiffad, re-read the post!

I clearly mentioned that Porsche produce supercars, with the intetion of illustrating that much of there engineering prowess is used to produce the Boxter!

But then again you like tarted up golfs, maybe a Beetle RS would suit you better :D

SMiFFAD
25-06-2003, 13:00
actually that was me :) and i know you didnt, its just we are talking about boxters, not GT's or anyother porches :D

I do have a soft spot for a nice new careara (sp?) theres a nice one that parks out side my flat some times with a nice body kit type think on it, brand new and look nice.

Old porches look awful in my eyes, especially the ones with the huge wale type wings on the back.....eeew,

but its all to personal taste.....

hadyn
25-06-2003, 13:01
being an 80s child - i can remember being a pre-pubescent male and remembering that in the 80s as a kiddy you never wanted a porsche 911 to stick up on your wall because everyone thought they looked ugly compared to a ferrari testerossa

SMiFFAD
25-06-2003, 13:11
Originally posted by Vez
I didnt state that boxters were supercars smiffad, re-read the post!

I clearly mentioned that Porsche produce supercars, with the intetion of illustrating that much of there engineering prowess is used to produce the Boxter!

But then again you like tarted up golfs, maybe a Beetle RS would suit you better :D

Ha ha, quick edit later :D

i like tts for their looks, nothing to do with performace, which is why i wouldnt buy one, have been in one and like em....

not having a pop at you, just the boxter, i have no time for it.

As for porch making supercars, yes they do, but then again BMW make the M3, a very nice, fast car, they also make the 316, a bag oh shite performance wise......... :D

Not overly keen on beetles either, but would have one over a box :D

SMiFFAD
25-06-2003, 13:14
http://mysite.freeserve.com/nissan200/Batty_beatle.jpg

you cant deny thats quite funcky.........and it kept up with a motor sport cozzy that shat on everything but the beetle :D

hadyn
25-06-2003, 13:14
some people just wanna blame everything on me dont they smiffad m8?!!! ;) :p

Vez
25-06-2003, 13:14
Well I was an 80's kid and I love the whole Porsche Ethos, the 959 came out at the same time as the 512 Testerrosa, and out classed and out performed it in every way!!

Porsche dont do things because they look good, they are there for a performance reason, like a true super car should, thats what and why the whale tails are there on the 911's

SMiFFAD
25-06-2003, 13:15
Originally posted by hadyn
some people just wanna blame everything on me dont they smiffad m8?!!! ;) :p

Think some people are just easily confuzzed :D

SMiFFAD
25-06-2003, 13:17
Originally posted by Vez

Porsche dont do things because they look good, they are there for a performance reason, like a true super car should, thats what and why the whale tails are there on the 911's

Am i not right in thinking the box can be out run by most of this board though?

They may handle well, but are not overly fast.......i know i have never had any problems getting away from one.

hadyn
25-06-2003, 13:20
ive done one off the lights.......

Vez
25-06-2003, 13:21
And you cant really compaire BMW making M-powered vehicles over there entry level, with Porsche now can we, seems as the Boxter performs very very well out of the box!

SMiFFAD
25-06-2003, 13:25
Originally posted by Vez
And you cant really compaire BMW making M-powered vehicles over there entry level, with Porsche now can we, seems as the Boxter performs very very well out of the box!

I recon we can, there a company who builds stunning cars (not deniying they make nice cars - accept the box....), then builds the box as a budget, comprimised, vehicle to widen their market, just as BMW make the ikkle series 3's, same as merc do the little merc whatever they are. It is simply built to sell in bulk, not to be a performance car IMO......

SMiFFAD
25-06-2003, 13:26
In a similar way to how the sx is a baby skyline.......... built for those who cant afford £50k to buy a skyline.......

formula
25-06-2003, 13:30
how does the price of a boxter and TT compare to the new 350z?

of the above three i know which one i'd rather have..

james

Wak
25-06-2003, 14:35
Originally posted by Johnny
Nothing wrong with that ...... I bought the 200sx because I couldnt afford a proper Porshe. :rolleyes:

Me too!

I'd take the Porsche

Vez
25-06-2003, 14:45
Surely this arguement is futile unless you have driven' one? :rolleyes:

JB
25-06-2003, 14:47
I've driven the Porsche and I'd like one please :D :D :D

I've not driven the TT as I didn't think driving it with my cock in my hand like all the other male TT drivers was a very safe thing to do.

SMiFFAD
25-06-2003, 14:47
Originally posted by Vez
Surely this arguement is futile unless you have driven' one? :rolleyes:

Not really, i dont give a rats arse what they drive like, i never want to be seen in one :D - tis the image i dont like. ;)

And its a discussion, not an argument.... :)

Johnny
25-06-2003, 14:50
Originally posted by JB
I've not driven the TT as I didn't think driving it with my cock in my hand like all the other male TT drivers was a very safe thing to do.


But I thought this was the very reason you drive an automatic ?? :D :D ;) :p

Vez
25-06-2003, 14:51
Well if you bothered about the "image" of the badge then you don't like any porsches or any car they've ever created so whats the point?!

JB
25-06-2003, 14:52
Originally posted by Johnny
But I thought this was the very reason you drive an automatic ?? :D :D ;) :p

Oh dear oh dear. No, you have misunderstood.

I drive an auto because it's superior to the primative manual transmission found in common cars.

Really, there's no helping some people :rolleyes:

SMiFFAD
25-06-2003, 14:53
Originally posted by Vez
Well if you bothered about the "image" of the badge then you don't like any porsches or any car they've ever created so whats the point?!

No, no you mis understand, i just dont like the box, it looks very boring compared to a carara (sp again) and pretty ugly IMO......its not the badge....tis the car i dont like.

Vez
25-06-2003, 14:53
I've driven an V6 4 motion golf (same car, more seats) and all I can say is you can push and push and push it and it just UNDERSTEERS for Germany....

Its the most dull thing I have ever Driven, fast, but DULL!!!!

Vez
25-06-2003, 14:54
Oh well, SO you dont like the looks of the 911 from the front either then, because basically they are the same :rolleyes:

JB
25-06-2003, 14:54
Originally posted by Vez
Its the most dull thing I have ever Driven,

You've never driven and Allegro then, obviously:rolleyes:

SMiFFAD
25-06-2003, 14:56
Originally posted by Vez
Oh well, SO you dont like the looks of the 911 from the front either then, because basically they are the same :rolleyes:

similar yes, but the one that parks out side me flat isnt a standard one, thats the only reason i like it...... never really been into porch styling, wlthough they seem to be making some better lookin stuff now.....which reminds me....anyone seen there attempt at a 4x4 yet :D odd looking think that looks like a ferarri/box hybrid on stilts, and an X5 from the back with more exhaust..

Were gonna have to agree to disagree mate :D such is life ;)

Vez
25-06-2003, 15:11
The um, "modded" one with the "standard" porsche addon body kit you mean ;)

I bet its also been modded with the "Porsche sports exhaust system" which means the dealer removes the cats for you as well as it being a little bigger!

There is no "modded" Porsche, they are all Tailored cars, unless you perchance take it to Mr Ruf, or to a serious racing eastblishment like 930 motorsport ;)

SMiFFAD
25-06-2003, 15:13
i know little about them as they dont interest me in the slightest, all i knows is that one looked quite nice............ :D

As opposed to the other one which parks near it which i would say looked "standard" and looks tosh, the same car underneath, but just looks like a hairdressers car :D

Wak
25-06-2003, 15:14
Originally posted by Vez
I've driven an V6 4 motion golf (same car, more seats) and all I can say is you can push and push and push it and it just UNDERSTEERS for Germany....

Its the most dull thing I have ever Driven, fast, but DULL!!!!

Really? I though the Boxster had the same straight six as the 911?

Duff Man
25-06-2003, 15:26
I'd take the boxter, I love porsches and they sound great/have a drop top!

One reason to NOT get a audi TT is due to So Solid Krew having one ;)

Vez
25-06-2003, 15:35
We have a winner :D

Purebob
29-06-2003, 16:29
If forced I'd take the Boxster. Its a great drivers car with an unfortunate image, so as an SX200 owner I can relate to that !

Seriously, its a fine drive, while the TT isn't at all communicative or exciting to drive IMO. The SX crushes it as a sporting driving experience IMO, though its nicely built and I'm sure a cast-iron ownership proposition.

But, presented with that choice a while back I bought & VX220 and an SX200 instead of either the TT or Boxster !

:cool:

Mark
29-06-2003, 17:15
Sorry but it would be bye bye S14 if someone handed me the keys of a Boxster :D Used to think that they was a poor mans Porsche but since a work mate brought one i now realise its still a fooking Porsche :D :D :D :D :thumbs: There are alot of posey twats that are driving them like they have gone and spent 80k on a 911 but this dont change the fact they are very nice cars. Just look at this

http://www.whiteson.org/boxster/gallery/images/56959398.jpg

How can anyone say they wouldnt want that on their drive :thumbs:

TT's however do nothing for me and it seems most drivers with one think they are in the Boxster league but i'm sorry mate your golf in a skirt is nowhere near :wave:

SR20DET
29-06-2003, 17:20
No way to sell and ride with pride? LOL Id take the bullet please :rolleyes:


Both cars are gay...

jimmy
29-06-2003, 18:28
there both overpriced , overrated peices of german crap! driven largely by show off twats how think that the cost of their car equals how good the car is...



KNOBS!

Duff Man
29-06-2003, 21:26
Originally posted by jimmy
there both overpriced , overrated peices of german crap! driven largely by show off twats how think that the cost of their car equals how good the car is...



KNOBS!

.....Or perhaps they have made something of themselves in life and want something to show for it, such a shame how this can attract such jealousy and irrational comments. :rolleyes:

The audi TT is not my choice either but the boxter is hardly crap now, lets think.....

Advantages:
Convertible so great in summer and desireable - check
Fast enough to outrun most 'run of the mill' cars - check
Porsche image and heritage, nuff said - check
6 cylinder boxer engines, mmm that noise and smoothness - check
Rear wheel drive, the drivers choice - check
Great weight distribution and handling - check
Looks, great inside and out - check
Resale prospect, good since depreciation is low and demand is high - check
Reasonable build quality (I should imagine) - check
Security, good level as standard - check

Disadvantages:
Costly to buy
Costly to service (well more so that nissan main dealers?)
Costly to insure

There ya go, not so bad after all is it, especially if you were given one for free!

:)