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Has anyone fitted a T3 or T3/4 hybrid? I see the units themselves are not too costly, its just the fitting kit that bumps the price up. Any of you chaps running one, and does the performance justify the cost in terms potential engine internal failure?
Ive gone for the T3 option, cost me just over £400 for the turbo, labour, and parts required to fit it.
If you ever want to see how its done, Im sure a meet 1/2 way could be arranged.
Also, Its a bloke on the wirral who did the conversion for me http://300zx.co.uk/200sx/ubb/biggrin.gif
Stu
I was expecting it to cost alot more than that!! surely that isnt including the turbo?!.
I would much prefer to run 1 bar on a T3 than on an T25. But theres alot of bits before I can get to it I think, (at least a months worth of cash and time I reckon) I need a fuel pump, injectors cleaning, valve stem oil seals (or turbo oil seals?!), exhaust and whatever else I break in the meantime.. http://300zx.co.uk/200sx/ubb/smile.gif
But as soon as I either a) Stumble across some money or b) sell my motorbike. I wanna see it and get it done. Spiffing luck that that the chap who has a T3 AND knows how to fit fifth injectors lives near me. heheh
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Nathan_200sx
22-05-2001, 17:07
http://ubbpics.rsoc.co.uk/8442651629.gif Yup I run the good old T3,Yes the performance is excellent, keeps boosting further than I dare to go anyway. Gives you a good kick when you floor it aswell. Nice http://300zx.co.uk/200sx/ubb/biggrin.gif
Nathan_200sx
22-05-2001, 17:12
Also should the worst happen, and the turbo dies in the future you only have to cough up for the T3 which as you know is lots cheaper than the hybrids.
kingdeacon
22-05-2001, 19:05
chimp it was only 1 day ago that you were talking about getting a respray, and leaving the engine as it is coz of that smoke problem you had, hehe, just think chimp could your take a T3??????? big ends might come knocking at your door!!!! hehe, whats that i hear? not melting pistons are you??? dont want to scare you though!!!! http://300zx.co.uk/200sx/ubb/biggrin.gif http://300zx.co.uk/200sx/ubb/biggrin.gif
Deacon
yes yes yes, I know what your sayin... but that was before i went out in me pals cossie,which made me feel like i was driving a metro when i got back into mine . He also did a grand job of convincing me that "nothing will break" now lets have no more mention of big ends and things.. its bad karma http://300zx.co.uk/200sx/ubb/tongue.gif
Paul_S13
22-05-2001, 21:41
Does anyone know what modifications to the exhaust manifold have to be carried out to fit a T3?
Nathan_200sx
22-05-2001, 22:51
Hmm paul there seems to be a fair bit of weld on mine, I understand that the 200sx maifold aint cheap but give me a mig and lets have a go, alternativley you could get someone who knows what there doing and it shouldnt be to expensive,
Paul_S13
23-05-2001, 08:17
My mate has got a mig welder, and he's an engineering type person!
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Paul_S13
23-05-2001, 09:21
Has anyone here fitted or heard of anyone who has fitted a T4?
Right, the quick low down on fitting a T3 for just over £400.
Personally I had someone fit mine for me as I dont have a welder, but here is the lowdown on the cost:
Found a T3 for £150 from my mate off a Saphire Cossie. Got a Cossie down pipe for £20 and 1 90 degree Samco Hose for £20.
Labout was £250, and this covered:
Making a plate for the turbo to fit on to manafold, Exhaust being cut http://300zx.co.uk/200sx/ubb/eek.gif and Cossie pipe being welded on, oil feeds being sorted etc.
Basically if you have the right tools its not that much of a difficult job, deffo better than spending near £900 + fitting from ND (good though he is, thats still darn expensive!)
Stu
Did you get an actuator with the turbo Stuymac as I assume the T25 one aint the same, bummer having just bought one. http://300zx.co.uk/200sx/ubb/tongue.gif
Im still running the ND actuator, as far as I remember it fits straight on the bracket on the T3.
Stu
how long ago did you have it done? have you had any problems with it, Im really intrigued as I might aswell keep my nose to the ground for a T3 in the coming weeks if its not much hassle. Did you say it holds 16psi, I bet thumps you in the back on a T3. Yum.
Nathan_200sx
23-05-2001, 12:01
Had mine done in september last year, no problems with it at all, apart from the actuator leaking. It's a realy good feeling when you floor it in 5th and its still pulling all the way through.
I got mine done jan/feb this year, the difference was awsome http://300zx.co.uk/200sx/ubb/eek.gif
Im only running 16psi at the moment, but that is due to pinking, when the adj fuel regulator is on it should run 18psi no probs. The T3 can hold I think 25psi+.
I remeber testing 18 psi a while ago, spun the wheels up in 4th gear at about 90mph in the wet http://300zx.co.uk/200sx/ubb/eek.gif
Scary.
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Stu
Red 1991 S13
heheh WTF!! now I reallllly want one. so much to do, so little cash.. http://300zx.co.uk/200sx/ubb/frown.gif
SteveSadler
23-05-2001, 15:51
mmmmmmmmm this T3 vs my planned option of a T28 has got me thinking.
u guys r just making me spend even more money.
I heard that there aint much in it though between the two?
Anyone experienced driving one with each different turbo?
I thought both needed fettling a bit to get on anyway, may aswell go for a t3 even if you dont use its boost capabilities, if its spinning at 16 psi I imagine it would last forever. I think it spins up slower by something like 400rpm, but whats that between mates? Its always more fun to let someone get the edge on you then the turbo catapults you past like something out of Houston. Turbo lag rocks http://300zx.co.uk/200sx/ubb/smile.gif
Nathan_200sx
23-05-2001, 16:36
Steve, I can only compare it against the T25 boggo vertion and there loads of difference, noticably when you have it spun up and a feeling of being pressed into the seat, let off for a second of two and then hit the gas again you can slap your pasagers head on the dash and hurl them back into there seat with a bit of practice http://300zx.co.uk/200sx/ubb/biggrin.gif . stu was right about spinning in high gears with high boost in the wet, thats why I got traction control because Im a wimp and it scared me.
SteveSadler
25-05-2001, 10:21
Right, Thats it
Forget the T28
Where can I get a T3 from
I dont want to pay ND for that fitting kit.
Just seems toooooo expensive.
Must a be a cheaper way of doing it.
I reckon I can get hold of the Turbo off a mate who runs a FORD spare shop. SO thats no problem
Its just fitting the damn thing
Any of you guys had your RR with the T3?
If so what r u pushing out.
270? 280? 290?
I figure 290/300 is the limit on standard CA pistons. I dont want to blow anything up (cant afford to yet)
and I know the standard MAF is only good for 310.
I'm aiming for 400bhp + like those powerslide nutter in Jap Land.
anyone see the cover of Max Power with that 700 odd brake MR2 Turbo. Stupid of what. But lovit all the same
The Bayside Rocket
Richy_Boy
26-07-2001, 21:27
I hate this forum now! I just spend the last 2 hours taking my camcover off and cleaning the damn thing. Nothing was wrong with my sodding engine in the first place!! http://300zx.co.uk/200sx/ubb/frown.gif Now you've got me juicing over a T3, when before I was an avid T28 fan!
(Still the T28 will bolt straight onto the manifold, where as the T3 wont..) Hmmm FECK!
- Not that I got any money after my tyre dash a couple of days ago... (ferking 17" wheelz!!)
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Rich
180 to 210 BHP @???? rpm
S13 J reg Graphite Grey - ND200, Koni Adj., 17" wheelz, dropped. Broken.
Mike_S13
27-07-2001, 07:14
Stuymac, can you post the address/phone number of the place you got the conversion done cos it might be worth a visit!
The bloke who did the conversion for me is one of my mates. Its not a special tuning garage hes got, just your local mechanic that knows his stuff. I have mentioned to him before about doing others, namely Chimp, and he has said he will do others and at the same price. His garage is on the Wirral (Rock Ferry) and if he does it, he needs the car for a few days as there is quite a bit of work involved as its not like its a bolt on kit.
If your still interested, let me know, and I can put you in touch.
mambastu
27-07-2001, 21:03
I have a T3 on my 200SX and have had quite a few reliability problems with it. The main problem has been with the manifold to conversion plate joint which has blown 3 times. It has happened at about 6,000 to 8,000 miles on each occasion and I have had to have the plates machined and the manifolds machined. I have learnt how to get the turbo on and off quickly though....I might put wing nuts on it next time......
If I was going to change from the standard turbo again, I would go for a T28 or hybrid T28. Less lag and hopefully a load more reliability because it fits without the spacer plate. Bearing in mind it costs a bundle to exceed 300 hp on these cars, a T28 would take you to 310 hp with a lot less lag.
Hey,
I'm driving (racing) my SX with a T28 hybrid from Simon (ND). It has a T3 compressor wheel and a T28 exhaust wheel. With a free flow exhaust the turbo should have it's full boost at 4000rpm. With the standard exhaust at about 5000rpm (first I run the large turbo with the standard exhaust). The turbo fits straight on the manifold, the only thing you need is a adapter on the air intake side of the turbo (to fit the air pipe from the air filter to the turbo). Now I'm racing the car with 280hp at 1,1bar (16PSI) - cat-back exhaust. I'm still waiting for my de-cat pipe and then I'll boost the engine with 1,3bar (19PSI). My tuning target will be 330Hp.
When does the T3 spin up?
Cheers,
Thomas
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