uk s14 vs silvia s14

[akiragost]

hi guys, i'm planning on getting a silvia s14 and just wanted to know the differences between uk s14 and jap s14. would it be difficult for me to come across parts if ever needed, or are most parts interchangeable between the 2? any help would be great guys!

[lee75]

I'd say all parts are interchangeable :nod:

[richy200]

All parts are interchangeable also.

I have owned both a s14 silvia and a s14a UK. The only difference i can see


wing mirrors on a silvia fold
The heaters are different i.e. the silvia has a electronic climate control, uk has shitty sliding knobs.
You have to be careful that teh s14 silvia you buy doesn't have hicas, otherwise you'll need to buy a hicas locking kit
Speedo in KPH
The silvia will be mapped to Japanese petrol


That's all i can think of mate

[SX_BIG]

sorry to hijack - but is is possible to fit the climate control from the silvia into the uk s14? or does it onvolve a lot of effort?

[richy200]

sorry to hijack - but is is possible to fit the climate control from the silvia into the uk s14? or does it onvolve a lot of effort?

You would need the loom from the silvia also as the UK heater and the silvia climate control have different connections. Anythings possible and if you had the loom i would miagine it wouldn't be too difficult, without it though its pretty hard from what i have read.

[akiragost]

at the expense of sounding silly, what is hicas, and also will i be able to map it to uk fuel using existing ecu?

[Prior]

at the expense of sounding silly, what is hicas, and also will i be able to map it to uk fuel using existing ecu?

HICAS is a rear wheel steer system usually found on skylines. a locking bar will literally lock the rear wheels in position to stop them turning. the bars aint that expensive. most people lock them up as they say HICAS makes the car feel more unstable.

yeah a map will sort out the fuel issue.

[Jim_Auto]

Add to the list...

front and rear bumpers are different
no rear wash wipe on a silvia (looks much better)
indicators and side repeaters are different

plus if your lucky you get lots of stickers with Jap scribbles on!

[stu_]

sorry to hijack - but is is possible to fit the climate control from the silvia into the uk s14? or does it onvolve a lot of effort?

This should help - http://www.chuonthis.com/cars/s14-dcc/

[SX_BIG]

cheers mate :) will look into that!

edit: holy crap... thats a lot of work!

[Monkey Magic]

no rear wash wipe on a silvia (looks much better)


My zenki s14 has a rear wiper. It also came with a sunroof and no abs :)

[S14JON]

My zenki s14 has a rear wiper. It also came with a sunroof and no abs :)

I thought sunroof's were only on the occasional n/a Silvia??
+
I have never seen a zenki 14 with the rear wiper :confused: lol

[ant1980]

Mine also has a rear wiper

[Mark D]

Theres an absolute tonne of differences between the two really.

Theres the possibility if you want to you can get the Zenki/Kouki body parts which aren't available here.
Japanese cars are (generally) much lower mileage
In general, much better condition with regards to rust
Depending on your own opinion, theres the opportunity to have a sunroof
Electric folding mirrors on some models
Different (imo better) indicators in the front bumper instead of the wing
Digital climate control (UK slidy buttons work perfectly for me)
If you wait around long enough you could pick up an example in Japan with some tasty parts on, i've seen cars go on the jdm auctions with TE37's, and god knows what other rare goodies you'd pay loads for over here.

Less good bits:
Speedo in KPH, the fact you need to change it and its not original anymore could be a downside for some
Speed limiter
Most of the silvia models come with the cloth interior, leather is available but you see it less often than the uk models which most of them have, whether this is a downside is arguable, i prefer leather.
Insurance is a little more expensive as its an import
Most imports you'll never know the real history of the car as i believe you wont recieve much (if any) of its service history etc
Mapped for japanese fuel

Just off the top of my head, some things might not be a problem. For me buying a car in the UK is so much easier as you can see what you are spending your hard earned on and you can make sure you get all the paperwork/books etc with it.

[tooley]

ive owned both! my JDM s14 was faultess! more powerfull, cleaner.

My Uk spec 14 a was a bag of usless rusty shit. ( yes it may be a bad example) but it was definatly no where near as quick as my JDM one.

[ezza]

I have a JDM navan zenki and my friend has a UKDM kouki

I have to say mine came with a load of goodies and is faster at less psi w/ boost leak :s

[green_rs13]

depends what spec silvia you get there is J Q and K as in jack queen and king
silvia K is the one to get as it will have all the toys

[ezza]

How do i tell what mine is?

[clive]

uk s14 odds are rusty.

silvia less rust

[Scuba83]

MASSIVE UPSIDE!!!

One of the most substantial difference's in my opinion is that the Silvia comes with a Garrett GT2560R duel ball bearing turbocharger!!

So 21 psi all day long from your stock turbo instead of 15 psi from the journal bearing euro 200sx which of course is also less responsive.

[doz_sr20]

uk s14 odds are rusty.

silvia less rust

that would be my biggest concern when buying either of the two. I'd rather have a non rusty car with a fooked engine than a rusty car with a decent engine. Much easier to change an engine than sort rust imo :nod:

[emperor]

Also silvia had a smaller washer bottle, easier to work when fitting fmic.

[boynexdoor]

silvia 220bhp, uk 200sx s14 190bhp

i think thats right anyway? :)

[Nismo Jester]

silvia 220bhp, uk 200sx s14 190bhp

i think thats right anyway? :)

Wasn't this due to a pipe restricter added to 'down tune' the UK-spec cars?

I was told that one of the pipes leading to the boost controller has a metal sleeve inside it on UK cars and replacing it with a suitable ordinary pipe increased the airflow and boost. Or is that wrong?

Obviously the better turbo will increase the PSi far more than this mod, but I thought this mod did something?

[dazziesr20]

[QUOTE=Scuba83;5658219]MASSIVE UPSIDE!!!

One of the most substantial difference's in my opinion is that the Silvia comes with a Garrett GT2560R duel ball bearing turbocharger!!

hi is the above me to apply to the s14 silvia if so iv been told the silvia came with the same turbo as the uk spec

[rich damms]

mines an s14a silvia import and has the ball bearing turbo which i think most did but im unsure of an s14 silvia

[mark_clio2]

afaik the all excpet the S15 came with a T28R (roller bearing turbo) which is what my Silvia has which is different to the UK spec T28 but no noticeable difference really, just spool up time really

[Silvia270R]

This may sound stupid!if the Silvia is more bhp then the uk s14! would stage 1a mods give you better bhp results with the Silvia?I own a Silvia s14a k's(mint condition) with regards to car history you might not get as much with imports but the Japanese are the sh#t when it concerns cars! you have only got to look at a car to see if it's been looked after, your not going to know how hard it's been driven ether way!it's worth holding out for a mint one I would go import every time and I believe that you only have to change from kph to mph if it's after 96!correct me if if I'm wrong:nod

[KA240SX]

I know this is a little old but just to clear up the "GT2560R"

That was only offered on the S15's
The Spec-R (Manual) had a NiResist Turbine Housing, Inconel Blades and a Divider between the WG Outlet and Turbine outlet in the Housing.
The Spec-R (Auto) was just a Regular T28R.
The Spec-R Manual Turbo will take more abuse and make slightly more power because of the little advances done on the turbine side.

All S14's had Journal Bearing T28's AFAIK.

[clive]

I know this is a little old but just to clear up the "GT2560R"

That was only offered on the S15's
The Spec-R (Manual's) had a NiResist Turbine Housing, Inconel Blades and a Divider between the WG Outlet and Turbine outlet in the Housing.
The Spec-S (Auto) was just a Regular T28R.
The Spec-R will take more abuse and make slightly more power because of the little advances done on the turbine side.

All S14's had Journal Bearing T28's AFAIK.



Wikipedia needs updating... Lol

Spec s is n/a

Spec r is turbo.


All t28r's are gt2560r's

[KA240SX]

Actually you are correct. Spec-S is N/A.
It's just Auto and Manual differences. Not Spec-R & Spec-S.

And yes the T28R's are GT2560R's but the Manual has small differences like I mentioned.

[sr20dets14]

hi all jap import silvias come with the gt28r bb turbo its the same turbo thats on the s15 type R if its imported and turbod its the bb burbocharger u have . everwere else got the t25 or t28 journal bearing turbo ie uk,usa.Australia ect
o i and the front lights on the jap silvias are plastic not glass for weight purposes i think. the back lights are slightly different as well. and iv noticed that the standered wheels are slightly lighter on the jap sivlia
and not 100% sure but mine came with 4 pot callipers dont think the uk spec has this correct me if am wrong

[sr20dets14]

and the factory limiter is easy to DIY bypass if any 1 wants to know pm me

[sr20dets14]

the rear wiper was a factory option

[John Bennett]

The factory speed limiter effectively goes if you put a converter on the speedometer anyway, as it gives the ECU a 40% lower speed reading.

UK cars have 4-pots :)

Despite all the little differences, I'd say JDM S14s are a lot closer to Euro S14s than later 180sx's are to the Euro S13 :wack:

I wonder if all those turbo part numbers are listed on JDM Fast - might go check.

[John Bennett]

Righto, according to FAST,

S14 Silvia

Oct 1993 onwards has turbocharger part 14411-69F00. The trim is 'SR20DET'.
September 1997 onwards (Autech Japan Type) has turbocharger 14411-RP801. The trim is "*2WS. SR20DET. MT".

Using parts master,
14411-69F00 is also used in the (automatic) S15, trim "SR20DET.AT.F4"
14411-RP801 is only used in the Autech S14.


UK 200sx has:
14411-75F00 from April '94 to July '96
14411 82F01 from July '96 onwards.



S15 has three turbocharger part numbers :wack:
14411-69F00 Jan '99 to Oct '00 (SR20DET.AT.F4, as above)
14411-91F00 Jan '99 to Oct '00 (SR20DET.MT.F6)
14411-75F00 Oct'00 onwards (SR20DET - i.e. all models)

So JDM S14 is different turbo to UK S14 (and same turbo as early AT S15). Putting 14411-69F00 into google suggests it's a BB.
I'm presuming 14411-91F00 is the S15 super-duper ball-bearing. And they binned all the turbos for cheaper sleeve bearing turbos in Oct'00 (same one in the UK S14)


Not saying there FAST is the be-all and end-all and that isn't more options etc, but dunno how you'd order them from Nissan :wack:

[stacky]

hi all jap import silvias come with the gt28r bb turbo its the same turbo thats on the s15 type R if its imported and turbod its the bb burbocharger u have . everwere else got the t25 or t28 journal bearing turbo ie uk,usa.Australia ect
o i and the front lights on the jap silvias are plastic not glass for weight purposes i think. the back lights are slightly different as well. and iv noticed that the standered wheels are slightly lighter on the jap sivlia
and not 100% sure but mine came with 4 pot callipers dont think the uk spec has this correct me if am wrong

Hmmm that might exlain why my Silvia seems to boost ALOT sooner than all of my previous UK s14's.

PS... brakes are the same

[nisskyline]

does any one, know the part nrº for the power folding mirrors and the mirror siwtch with folding and defrost option for a s14a????

cheers