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mad k
23-06-2003, 18:51
Hi just bought my first nissan on saterday its a 89 200sx with 90000 miles on the clock , the car is a credit to its former keeper he had every recipt from new and its in amazing condition, only bought the car coz i sold my omega and have been looking for a good saph 4x4 cosworth, but can see me geting rid of the wee 200sx now its so much fun ive already covered 600 miles in 2 days in it and roundabouts are loads of fun.

Kev im sure you passed me in ure nissan on the m8 a while ago id have been the guy in the pistons&components van that was staring at your car.

do yous orginise event days at crail ect? and if so is it only sxoc members allowed in? ive tried to join but theres a problem with the volume of applications jsutnow.

cheers kenny.

Mike
23-06-2003, 22:25
Hi from Aberdeen...

Our next outdoors "event" is all meeting up at Knockhill on 12th August for their track day. £50 for 2 hours. Sign up directly with Knockhill (sel previous posts for numbers, comments, results, etc....)

dobergoose
23-06-2003, 22:31
hi
you don't need to be a member to come to our events, we meet once a month at least for a chat, check here (http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=31995).
You work for pistons and components? Most of us will have bought something (big end shells most likely) from you guys.

Cheers Martin

mad k
24-06-2003, 00:45
yeah i work for p+c sell a lot of sheels for the 200sx both mains and big ends , if u ever in look out for the guy who is always half sleeping and not knowing what hes doing that will be me.:)

Kev
24-06-2003, 01:06
Hi Kenny and welcome mate.
Erm i didnt notice u sorry, when was it?
Jonnyspeedbump was in at u guys last week i believe to pick up big end shells.

No need to be a member to come along to meets or events mate.
But the membership probs should be sorted in the next few weeks.

As dobergoose says, come along to the meet and we can have a wee chat about ur car and what u wanna do with it, as well as have a look over it and check all is ok.

Kev

mad k
24-06-2003, 01:16
Thanks mate i apreciate that ure willing to take a look over it for me as i bought it not really knowing any weak points on the car just a spur of the moment sort of thing.

i passed u on the m8 at the royston gasworks about 1-2 months if i remember right , i liked the spoiler on it looked nice and went well.

the car i have is completly stock , im trying to get a vent to atmosphere dump valve for it , i phoned drivers today and they wanted £170 inc the fitting kit, which i found steep for a bailey unit think it had something to do with me saying i worked for p+c though , also been asking around at places to see about uping the boost but still within a safe level on the car, im thinking of getting the car over to AVA to get it checked as i had a hard time shaking of my mate in his standerd 2.0 8v 306 tonight in a straight line i thought i would be able to leave him sitting aswell.

Kev
24-06-2003, 02:07
I personally dont like AVA, they overcharge and know f all bout 200's.
great with fords apparently, but i guarantee u know f all bout 200's.

Sounds like u got me on the way to or from cali uni (mature student)

Bren at apex performance (traders section) will do u a bailey dv and fitting kit for bout £100 im sure, ull wonder how u survived without him, he is brand new.
Also best to pick up a bren device (dawes device) for upping the boost at bout £40, very reliable and no boost spikes unlike a bleed valve.

Id advise a boost guage as ur first purchase, then bring it over, im in uddingston, and we can do a compression test and ill give it a check over, or if u wanna wait a couple of weeks then u can come along to the meet in livingston and we can check it all out there, and Martin (dobergoose) can bring his timming light with him, cos im guessing its out if u had problems with a 306.
should be another (not worth wasting the petrol on) easily despatched scrabble wagon.

U should be able to up the boost to 12-14psi but its best to get things checked out first.
see what state everything is in internally.

Kev

mad k
24-06-2003, 10:52
Sounds great mate thanks very much, i stay in bearsden so udinston is only bout 20 minetes away.

the pug 306 story goes like this-
Its a completly standerd 306 xsi 2.0 8v 1995 model with 60000, he ran 1 min 35 secs at kames with me in the pasenger seat ( im a big lump of a lad aswell ) when he was beating track novas/xr2i ect also got faster lap times than a golf turbo round the track so his car is pretty quick as it stands.

we found to a private insdustrial estate last night which has a long straight must be about 1/4 mile in total.

start-

1st gear standing start im sitting at 3000k revs a drop the clutch and hold it till 6500rpm he has a nose on me.

2nd gear were pretty even i start pulling away round 5500 rpm but just.

3rd gear i now have a nose on him and by 6500 rpm im about a lenth and a half in front before i had to slow down to avoid the big red fence that was facing me.


Kev u think my order of modding should be-

boost gauge
dawes device( where do u get one of these? ive loked at the apex site but cant see one? )
up the boost
dump valve

what about spark plugs? marc at the garage in wishaw was telling me id need a good set of plugs to keep it cool can anybody recomend a set to me?

cheers,kenny.

Gee
24-06-2003, 11:26
Hi m8 welcome,

If you raise the boost get a set of Denso Iridium plugs again from Bren for £34.

These are exactly the same plugs as the HKS ones that I got stung for £75 from SE Parts for my old 2*****

dobergoose
24-06-2003, 12:38
Your not far from Jonnyspeedbump who lives in Hardgate.

JonnySpeedbump
24-06-2003, 19:06
Hello Kenny,
yep as Kev said, I bought my big-end and main shells from P&C last week :) .
What colour is yer 2***** mate, I'll keep an eye out for you. Sadly I'm driving a wee red citroen AX until my car gets back on the road :( .
Unless you're mate has done some secret modding to the 306 you shoulda blown it away. The first week I got my 200 I raced a GTi6 and beat it (but not by much) and that was with a gubbed CAT and dodgy inlet valves. Prolly timing as Kev said ;) .
The 'bren' or 'dawes-device' is about £40 delivered from Bren and lets you manually adjust the boost :D .
I've got a slightly 'ticky' (but still accurate) boost guage you can have to check the boost you're running ;) . Saves you money for other mod's :D :D :D .
Cheers,
Jonny :wave:

Kev
24-06-2003, 19:44
im guessing ur with ssr then??
Did Marc point u to us by any chance?

As Gee says, Bren will set u up with some denso iridiums, but due to a price hike at his end, they are unfortunately £50 now.

For a cheaper option id advise ngk bcpr7es they are one grade colder than the bcpr6es's ur running just now.

Alternatively u may wanna buy a set of iq22's about 6 months old from me, cos im gonna go a stage colder again and go for iq24's.
These are denso iridiums u get from bren, cos i got them from him.

If u dont see the dawes device on the site, either phone him up directly and just say ur new on the board and were advised to speak to him, or put a post in the apex section of the bb, detailing what ur wanting.

Order of modding:-
boost guage
compression and timming check
remove s pipe from air filter
boost upped with dawes device
DV
panel air filter
Mongoose exhaust
............................
tell me when to stop really.
depends how fast u want it, and how driveable, and how much u wanna spend.

Kev

mad k
25-06-2003, 01:52
hi jonny speedbump i stay at spey road at the start of bearsden u know it about 5 mins from hardgate?

my 200 is silver in colour , your welcome to come down and see it if you want its not in my driveway as ive got 2 other cars and a works van and dont fancy leaving the sx outside on the road so i leaveit in my mates driveway out of harms way, i really am liking this car more and more everyday i had no idea it would be so much fun, if you want to come down let me know when and il get the car down to the house can also get the pug 306 out and go to the industrial est and show you whats happing coz the guys been slagging me all day over it,only mods hes done to it is fitted a universal jap filter to the car, il also buy the boost gague off you aswell mate that would be great.

Kev i know marc through my work as he gets his EBC stuff from me im not in SS-R keep meaning to join but never do lol , i found this site by doing a google search glad i did now, and il buy your plugs from you mate if ure sure you want to sell them that would be excellant aswell.

and il also do all the mods you listed there altough i was gonna get a FREE FLOW exhaust made up for it but if the goose is beter il go that way, as for how much i wanna spend im not 100% on that yet i cut the guy down from £1100 to £700 so im no sure how much i wanna spend modding a £700 car although i love driving it i cant see me getting rid of the thing and putting the cossie on hold for a bit.

Kev are you a member of the strathy forum? i remember a while back a guy saying AVA botched his 200 up.

I also registered on the apex site today so if i cant find the dawes device il jsut email them.

thanks for all your help guys:thumbs:

cheers,kenny.

mad k
25-06-2003, 02:23
is this the dawes/bren device ive found ? if so il order it up later on from them -


S13 Apex boost valve £43.00
Click to enlarge
The Apex boost valves uses a spring and ceramic ball bearing to prevent any pressure getting to the wastegate actuator until you hit the desired boost level. Normally the wastegate will start to creep open as the turbo spools up so venting exhast gasses around the turbine wheel and straight down the exhaust. Because the Apex boost valve prevents any pressure from reaching the actuator until you hit the desired boost, the wastegate stays shut so all the exhaust gasses are used to drive the turbo. This results in the turbo starting to spool up earlier giving greater low down power and less lag. The boost is adjusted by simply screwing the valve housing in and out of itself which increases and decreases the tension on the internal spring. The Apex boost valve holds boost rock steady and does not spike making it far superior to an uprated adjustable actuator. They are also far easier to fit, easier to adjust and are far cheaper!

Just so i make sure i get the rigght things guys .

cheers, kenny.

thejames
25-06-2003, 02:35
Thats the one. Just make sure you order a boost gauge at the same time. :)

Put the Cossie on permanent hold and put your money into the £700 car. Won't take much and you'll have the performance of a £70,000 car. I practically guarantee you'll get the bug. :D

Kev
25-06-2003, 03:26
for my sins yeah i am though havent looked there for a while.
post under kev 200 im sure.

Yeah it was probably me.
I like to praise the companies that do me well:-
Bren at Apex
Marc at the garage

and make sure as many people as possible know the ones who have shafted me, or have tried:-
AVA
John Bryce coachbuilders
Numerous mechanics.

I think this is the best way of doing things as it lets peeps know where u have tried and tested to be good and bad, and hopefully saves peeps some dosh.

say £20 for the plugs?
dont feel obliged to buy them though mate, cos i dont "need" to sell them, and ngk's will still be cheaper.
Ive no problem keeping these as a backup set and will not be at all offended if u wanna buy brand new or whatever.

If u wanna take the car past bout 330bhp then ur better going for a larger diameter pipe than the goose, but for me its ideal as im gonna be sitting around the 280-290 mark, no more.

basic guide bang for buck (assuming all is fine with the engine)
standard 169bhp
£100 = ~190bhp
£500 = ~220bhp
£1000 = ~260bhp
£1500 = ~280bhp

this is doing it relatively cheaply.
U could have really good stuff at an easy ish 280bhp for bout £2200
But ur gonna also have to add tyres and suspension and brake upgrades to that mate.

then ur onto serious modding.

Im realising that im probably not gonna make the meet this month as ill be doing the west highland way, so if u wanted to pop down one night next week, we could give the car a going over then, infact jonny and dobergoose may be down early next week also to do jonny's big ends at my place, u could meet us all then.

Kev

JonnySpeedbump
25-06-2003, 12:18
Kenny,
you misunderstand mate, I meant you can have the boost guage for nowt ;) .
J

PS. stick with the 200sx, pound for pound it'll piss all over a cossie :D .

mad k
25-06-2003, 13:21
hi , thanks jonny that would be great , if you wont take cash is there anything you need for your car ? ( sump gasket,oil , filters belts ect ) anything i can help ypu with really to return the favour.
do you want to meet up then? and il grab the gauge from you if you like?

kev il take those plugs from you mate aswell thanks that would be great, and yeah il deffo come out when yous are doing the shells and get to meet yous.

Funny thing is my mate with the puegoet is now into the 200sx thing aswell and hes wanting one to play about with, think hes got the bug aswell.

JonnySpeedbump
25-06-2003, 14:36
no prob's mate, you'll find that the atmos' on this board, and particularly amongst the Scottish owners, is very friendly and helpful :) ..... well, most of the time :p !!!

I am in need of a crank shaft oil seal and an oil filter for my 200sx, if you can get me them on a staff discount basis ;) I'll pay you back and you'll have saved me some cash.

BTW, what kinda stuff does P&C stock? I always assumed it was just engine components but do they stock performance goodies too (you mentioned EBC above)?

Tell your mate to sell his pug and get a 2*****. The more the merrier!!!

Cheers,
Jonny

tDR
25-06-2003, 15:11
Hiya Kenny,

Welcome to the board. You chose your chariot well - great value turbo nutter :)

I don't even own a 200 myself and this lot put up with me :notworthy - reason I came on here in the 1st place was because my m8 Lenagh was looking to buy one and then bought an S14a (eventually lol) and I was interested as well. Decided against in the end, purely because I needed something cheap to commute in whilst importing jap cars to sell on (little side earner for me for just now, wanted to give it a go).

mad k
25-06-2003, 16:11
thanks thunder,

jonny got the filter and oil seals coming in tomorow wasnt sure if u needed front or rear so i got you both, they cost me pennies so i dont want any money for them.
il either have them in the shop for 11am tomorow if ure wanna pop in or i can bring them up to you if that suits beter.

its mainly engines we stick to but can get ebc brakes aswell which im trying to blag a free set from the boss for a swap for a advertisment on my back window of the 200.

JonnySpeedbump
25-06-2003, 17:00
Diamond geezer!
I'm working at the BBC just along the road from you at the mo', so I'll pop along tomorrow or Friday and bring you the boost guage :thumbs: .
Cheers,
Jonny

mad k
25-06-2003, 17:53
cheers jonny sounds good.

ive got a dump valve and fitting kit on order and also a dawes valve aswell , do anybody know how hard these items are to fit? i have very basic knowlage of cars , are these jobs i should attemp of get a garage to carry out the work?

cheers,kenny.

mad k
25-06-2003, 18:06
cheers jonny sounds good.

ive got a dump valve and fitting kit on order and also a dawes valve aswell , do anybody know how hard these items are to fit? i have very basic knowlage of cars , are these jobs i should attemp of get a garage to carry out the work?

cheers,kenny.

dobergoose
25-06-2003, 18:42
Dawes valve is a doddle to fit, you cut the hose from the turbo to actuator and fit it there. Bring it on Monday if your gonna pop over while we do Jonnys engine.

mad k
25-06-2003, 18:45
got a email from bren at apex and the daws valve wont be in till tues or wed now so i wont be able to get the dawes fitted on monday but il still take a run out if thats cool.

cheers,kenny.

Iain200sx
25-06-2003, 21:02
kenny the dump valve is really easy to fit too mate, took me about 5mins and im ok with cars, nothing great. are you heading up to that jap car meet thing? ive never been to one before, but ill be going up next month. Had my 200 for 10 months now but been in iraq since january and only just got back :mad: I think ill be popping up to P+C on tuesday next week for some oil and fuel filter, if you dont have the DV fitted by then ill give you a hand as its mega easy. Nice to have some more scottish 200 owners mate. :thumbs:

Kev
25-06-2003, 22:34
Guys its looking like monday night for the engine, so if u boys wanna make it a mini-meet then come along.
Iain u can come over too mate and meet a couple of us first, should make the jap meet a little less daunting.
Also if u ask dobergoose nicely im sure he will show u what a 280bhp s13 feels like ;)

Kenny, im sure we should be able to wire up the boost guage and install the DV then too, its only 5 min jobs each mate.
Jonny i spoke to tini today and mon is fine for him also.
Also i can get the oil filters (fram) for bout £2.50, can u get them cheaper still Kenny?
what about oil?
specifically mobil 1 15/50 or castrol rs 10/60?

Oh and totally off subject but yey my agx's finally turned up today:D :D :D :D :D

Iain200sx
25-06-2003, 23:21
yeah monday may be ok. im down ipswich way just now, but will be driving back home monday morning, but its a 8-9 hour drive. what time where you looking to have it, as it would be great to come and you ask loads of questions you've probably had 100 times over. Ill bring my mate too, hes got an audi :o but loves jap cars.

mad k
26-06-2003, 00:50
iain thanks mate , if you want to tell me the specifics of your car i can bring the oil and fuel filters along on monday if that helps saves you coming into the shop ect ( plus if i say its for my own car the boss does me special deals ;) ) just if that helps you though mate, fuel filters arnt something we stock jsut get them in for people as they ask sort of thing but 9 times out of ten i can get them within the hour which helps.

If you want this il need to know firstly , your car details and what grade of oil you want.

in my work we supply from stock duckhams and castrol i know we deffo have magnatec in stock from castrol but im not sure if we have a duckhams fully synthetic. also carry hypergrade ect ect but im not sure what oil goes into a 200sx can sumone fill me in here please? i was gonna get a oil change done with magnatec is this ok ?

Kev its fram filters we do, im sure the trade on the 200sx filter is around £2.40-£2.50 i get a further 25% on that from my boss.

oil on the other hand id need to check for u, duckhams own mobil one and castrol but compition ect means coz we sell duckhams we can only sell castrol so we cant supply mobil ( pish aint it)
i know a while back my boss was doing a amazing deal on 1 litre bottles of mobil something silly like four for £20 i can see if theres any left if that intrests you in anyway , he was only doing this coz mobil/castrol were splitting and he had to shift his stock.

Iain if your taking a run through on monday do u wanna meet up dumbarton aint that far from my bit really just up the boulie and i could meet you at say the retail park at drumchapel or in the jet garage just before it them we could head out to uddingston, just and idea though mate let me know if that suits.

cheers,kenny.

Kev
26-06-2003, 03:18
Kenny the ooil i use in mine is always fully synth, so far its been mobil 1 or castrol RS 10/60.
Norris designs use magnatec, but it doesnt sit right with me having those properties on a turbo car.
If u do a search of the bb, ull find this has been covered many times with no real conclusion.
Id be very very happy if u can get castor RS 10w60 for us.
Hate paying halfrauds for mobil 1.

Also if ur gonna do an oil change, cos of the way the engine sits, u have to jack the csar up at the pass side to get it all out, otherwise theres bout 1/2 liter of old oil left in the sump.

To both of u guys, basically myself, Martin and Jonny will probably be there till it starts to get dark, so what ever time suits u really.
Probably best to arrange a time to meet, and one of us will meet u just off the M8, at showcase cinema's.

Or if u were gonna come over earlier, u could really meet jonny on the boule as he lives right next to it i believe, and come over with him.

Kev

mad k
26-06-2003, 11:17
kev il see what i can do on the castrol for you , but we dont have any in stock at the moment of the rs one.

jonny your bits are sitting here , if im no in when you come into the shop ( i have to go out sometimes coz we have the slowest van driver in the world ) ive left them sitting behing the desk next to the piston ring compressors , and if im not there tell my boss you are collecting them for me coz ive already paid for them:thumbs: .

Sounds good kev, if you want to meet up jonny on the way to udingston im happy with that , although i dont finish work till 5 so would be looking at leaving my bit around six by the time i pick my car up and get ready and things, If this is to late i can just meet yous out there either way its not a problem.

the royal mail guy has jsut walked in the door with my dump valve wooohoooo even came with instructions so i think il try fit it tonight myself and il let yous know how i get on:) .

cheers,kenny.

Iain200sx
26-06-2003, 13:36
hi kenny, yeah ill meet up on monday then, presuming that im back in time, by all the traffic in london and birmingham. 6-6.30 sounds good for me, would give me time to get home and shower and everything. yeah that would be good if you could bring the oil up mate, saves me a trip to glasgow too. im not really bothered what oil it is to be honest, castrol rs 10/60 would be nice though, is it really expensive though? ive got an oil filter and sump plug gasket thingy. as long as the oil is around 30 quid or under that would be fine mate. and ill see you monday hopefully, ill let you know for definate nearer the time. cheers mate ;)

Kev
26-06-2003, 13:54
jonny just generally stands and points at bits anyway:p so im sure he wont mind coming around that time and show u guys the way.

Kev

JonnySpeedbump
26-06-2003, 14:26
Cheeky bastid :mad: ! I'll have you know I tightened three bolts on Martin's engine after the rebuild :p ..... actually Martin, you know that rattling noise...........? :rolleyes:

Guys, I'll be coming directly from work (west end of town) and I finish at 5.00pm, sorry.

Kenny, been very busy at work and will be again tomorrow (T-in the park prep.), is it OK if I give you the guage on Monday?

Cheers,
Jonny

mad k
26-06-2003, 14:53
jonny monday is cool mate not a problem :) .

iain we dont carry the castrol rs in stock ive just said to the boss man and he said hell see what he can do for me on it.

only thing we have is all the shitty run of the mill stuff and we have two 1 litre bottles of mobil 1 sitting in the store room and we have 4.5 litre bottles of magnatec in stock if any of these are of any use let me know mate, do u still need a fuel filter aswell ?

kev im a looker and pointer aswell when it comes to working on cars i can talk a good engine rebuild but cant do it , infact i struggle to change a wheel myself. ;)

Iain200sx
26-06-2003, 15:03
yeah ill just have the magnatec mate, how much is that then? ill take a fuel filter too, if you cant get one by monday just order me one and ill pick it up whenever it comes in. does anyone ever bother with changing their power steering fluid or any of that crap? my car has just done 32k, dont know if its ever been changed or needs it. :|

mad k
27-06-2003, 00:05
iain can u let me know the details of ure car and il get ure fuel filter in mate ( engine year ect ) the magnatec comes into me about £16 quid is that ok with u iain ?

Fitted my dump valve tonight , was so easy had it all fitted within 10 minetes and it sounds amazing was dumping everywhere i went, i only put the 200 away as the rain was heavy and i was sliding everywhere and almost lost it a few times :D .

my dump valve is a bailey dv26 ( evo one ) should it be giving off a whoosh sound at 2000 rpm ????? its only a small whoosh but by 3000 rpm its a full blown noise the same as i get 6000 rpm , i thought the turbo wasnt meant to come in untill 3000 rpm on the standerd turbo ? or am i misunderstood and this is toatally normal ???

any information and advice is greatly appreciated.

Cheers, kenny.

Kev
27-06-2003, 01:53
mine starts to tish around 2k ish, but im on the 28 now..... hmm cant remember how it performed on the 25 to be honest.

Iain, wouldnt bother with it, unless u feel the steering is snatchy etc?

Jonny who let u over this end of ggow?
so u boys reckon u can find showcase cinema's then?

Iain200sx
27-06-2003, 07:39
kenny thats great mate ill have the magnatec. its 1999 s14a, sr20det. look i got a sig picture now too! :D

tDR
27-06-2003, 09:28
Mind if I come to point at stuff then? You never know, I could have the odd moment of inspiration :rolleyes:

JonnySpeedbump
27-06-2003, 10:39
Hehe, it's a BYOS party (bring yer own spanner :rolleyes: :p ).

J:D

Kev
27-06-2003, 14:01
Brian, yeah sure mate, can we sort a time and one of us will meet u boys at showcase

tDR
27-06-2003, 14:06
I'm easy on time - should be home by 5PM on Monday and the showcase off the M8 is about 30mins drive from me.

Should we dress "Mechanic" :D ?

Kev
27-06-2003, 14:32
If ur wanting to help with the engine out then yeah, if u wanna stand and point then nah ull be fine.

I will be in my designer jeans.
specially designed for me by the companies of caliper paint, engine oil, waxoyl, underseal and of course that top designer copper slip.

They are all the rage these days:D :D

tDR
27-06-2003, 14:58
I'll lend a hand where I can. Got any tools you could do with using and I'll raid my old man's (mech by trade, not anymore tho) lot?

mad k
27-06-2003, 16:03
kev i know the showcase cinema well ( they have the worst seats in there on the go! ) , so if i meet iain at the jet petrol station just after the roundabout at drumchapel end of the boulie at say 6.30 pm we could meet some one at the cinema at say 7pm ? how is that for you iain give you enough time to get ready ~?

iain, i have your fuel filter and magnatec sitting in my van for you so i dont forget it on monday mate.

jonny, i have your oil seals and oil filter in the van aswell , is there nything else you think ull need and il get that aswell ?
and is there anything il need to buy to fit the boost gauge like hoses ect ect ?

kev, is it still ok if i get those plugs from you on monday aswell mate ?

cheers,kenny.

Iain200sx
27-06-2003, 18:55
yeah that be fine kenny mate. Thanks alot for getting that oil and that, just let me know how much i we you and ill make sure i bring it along.
anyone changed oil on a s14a before? dont even know where my sump plug is :o . Well if anyone could give me a hand on monday that'd be great, just to show me where my filters go and that. I can only see one when i look under my bonnet, though ive not really had a good search.
my brakes are absolute shit, is anyone else using standard pads and discs? i dont want to spend money on new ones now as im saving for r33 ones hopefully. any idea where i can get hold of a set?
cheers, iain.

Kev
27-06-2003, 21:40
Kenny, plugs yeah providing i get myself some replacement before then lol.

Brian, nah mate im suure we have the tools covered. Martin????? can i have mine back pls, in a plastic bag will do.

Iain im sure it wont be hard to find ur sump plug lol, yeah im sure we can fit that in too.
I dont think anyone has a s14 with standard brakes im afraid.
I got s14 brakes but with grooved discs and mintex 1144 pads.

Kev

Iain200sx
28-06-2003, 00:46
is there any big jap breakers up scotland who might have some skylines or that in? i really want the brakes sorted out really quickly. I dont want to spend 100+ on new pads, cause as soon as i do that a nice set of r33 gtr brakes will come along. :mad:

Yeah it'd be good to get this oil changed as my car really needs it. How easy is it to fit a boost gauge too? as ive heard they are pretty easy to do?

mad k
28-06-2003, 02:08
theres a place on helen street in goven called japp spares they have loads of jap stuff instock not sure about skylines but worth a try anyway mate.:thumbs:

kenny.

Kev
28-06-2003, 04:23
yeah jap parts or sommat, but beware, they will want the moon for a part or two.

Ive not been in recently, but they usually have a couple of 13's, 14's and the odd zed sometimes.
Never seen a skyline though.

Mintex were £89 from Bren.

Might be worth flushing ur system also, and maybe using dot 5.1 fluid, incase its boiled fluid is the problem

evil_scooby
28-06-2003, 09:02
If the meet is this monday can I pop along to and meet some of u since im new, and showcase is 5 mins from my house.
U all seem to have s13s but I wouldnt mind still poppin along.

I had a similar moment with a pug 106 gti, they seem pretty quick and go round corners on rails, which is something my car really doesnt seem to do, I dont feel that safe at speed on bends, and I thought it would be better than that.
Maybe its the hile profile of the tyres?

Mad K, I think I got my car about a week after u. R u the guy Jillian was talkin about and showin me pics of ur car? Same guy who knows Grizz?
Or do I have the wrong person?


Ross.

mad k
28-06-2003, 12:32
kev your right there jap spares charge fortunes for there bits sumtimes there prices are shocking to be honest.

Iain if you see something from japp spares you like let me know , im a friend of the guy who owns the mot station which is built inside there place and he gets me a discount on there stuff if that helps you mate recently got a load of celica bits for a guy i know and saved him about £100 quid which is beter than paying top whack for it.

Yeah evil scooby thats me , so you will be the roiss that jill talks about all the time ? seen on the strathy board youv got a s14 maybe get a look at it one time at the park or wherever mate and see what there like.

Cheers,kenny.

Iain200sx
28-06-2003, 12:54
alright kenny mate cheers. Does anyone know if 300zxtt calipers are better than mine? apparently they are aluminium instead of cast. Is it worth upgrading or is it not that good an idea?

Hey some one else who doesnt have an s13! Hey evil scooby, strange name. ;)

dobergoose
28-06-2003, 14:13
The ally 300ZX calipers are just the older ones, Nissan replaced them with cast iron because they were cracking or warping.
No point in putting them on in place of S14 ones as the cast ones from a 300 are the same as S14.

Iain200sx
28-06-2003, 15:08
thinking about it now, i think it probably is just the fluid. they used to be quite good before but now they just feel spongy and dont stop that well at all. If i got some brake fluid for monday you reckon we could squeeze that in too? ive never done it before is it just a case of taking the fluid pipe off the calipers and then replacing with 5.1? How much fluid would i need?

Kev
28-06-2003, 15:09
almost....... the s14 ones are actually a slightly newer design.

Ross, yeah y not, more the merrier.

Maybe better consult Kimberley on that lol, since its her drive

evil_scooby
28-06-2003, 17:18
Yeh Kenny Im the one she used to talk about a lot.

Hi Iain. U cummin to any of the meets so I cant talk s14 with someone who has one.
I dont really like the feel of the brakes on mine either, they dont inspire me with great confidence. :(

Iain200sx
28-06-2003, 17:38
Yeah are you going on monday? whats your 14 like mate? what colour and what you done to it?
yes hmmm s14 brakes :rolleyes: . iwas considering getting micra drums front and rear, surely they cant be any worse?!? To be honest they used to be ok my brakes but recently they have been poo and left me swearing a few times. you'd honestly think a car like that would have good brakes. Im doing a r33 gtr conversion as soon as i can if i can source the bits for it. need 15mm spacers before i can get them on though as i got kind of deep dish wheels. :D

vibrio
29-06-2003, 00:39
Originally posted by ThunDeR
Hiya Kenny,

Welcome to the board. You chose your chariot well - great value turbo nutter :)

I don't even own a 200 myself and this lot put up with me :notworthy - reason I came on here in the 1st place was because my m8 Lenagh was looking to buy one and then bought an S14a (eventually lol) and I was interested as well. Decided against in the end, purely because I needed something cheap to commute in whilst importing jap cars to sell on (little side earner for me for just now, wanted to give it a go).

I'm here cause I met mike at crail ( and got a better time although he beat me over the line :p )

dunc
29-06-2003, 01:17
Originally posted by vibrio
I'm here cause I met mike at crail ( and got a better time although he beat me over the line :p )

I'm here because I actually ran a 200sx on a regular basis, once apon a time..... :rolleyes: :cry:

evil_scooby
29-06-2003, 06:56
Originally posted by Iain200sx
Yeah are you going on monday? whats your 14 like mate? what colour and what you done to it?
yes hmmm s14 brakes :rolleyes: . iwas considering getting micra drums front and rear, surely they cant be any worse?!? To be honest they used to be ok my brakes but recently they have been poo and left me swearing a few times. you'd honestly think a car like that would have good brakes. Im doing a r33 gtr conversion as soon as i can if i can source the bits for it. need 15mm spacers before i can get them on though as i got kind of deep dish wheels. :D

yeh im going to head along on monday, so hopefully c u there at the showcase.
Accordin to mr midgers , he reccons im runnin about 225bhp@12psi

Mike
29-06-2003, 09:49
Originally posted by vibrio
I'm here cause I met mike at crail ( and got a better time although he beat me over the line :p )

I demand a rematch!

Iain200sx
29-06-2003, 09:52
yeah ill see you there mate, im meeting up first with keeny at the jet garage then both driving up to the showcase i think? So ill see you tommorrow. :wave:

Iain200sx
29-06-2003, 12:40
alright kenny mate,
Just wanted to confirm what ti me we are meeting at that jet garage? is it 6.30? Cheers mate
Iain

vibrio
29-06-2003, 18:00
Originally posted by Mike
I demand a rematch!


I do not. your not the same since we last met :notworthy

tDR
29-06-2003, 18:21
Right, just to confirm - what time are we meeting at Showcase tomorrow and whereabouts, cos it's a pretty big car park.

Mike
29-06-2003, 20:40
Originally posted by vibrio
I do not. your not the same since we last met :notworthy

...do you mean the nervous twitch or the embarassing stain?

(PS: are you coming to Knockhill?)

Kev
29-06-2003, 22:29
say 7;15pm in the mcdonalds car park?

vibrio
29-06-2003, 22:36
Originally posted by Mike
...do you mean the nervous twitch or the embarassing stain?

(PS: are you coming to Knockhill?)

no my car handles worse than a 3 wheeler. plus I am saving for a new powersteering pump :(

mad k
29-06-2003, 22:58
iain - meet you at the jet at 6.30 mate is fine with me gives me time to get showered ect.:thumbs:

yeah 7.15 at the McD carpark is fine by me aswell :)

cheers kenny.

tDR
29-06-2003, 23:36
Originally posted by Kev
say 7;15pm in the mcdonalds car park?

k :)

tDR
30-06-2003, 14:50
:( Looks like I'm gonna have to bail out of this mini meet - the GF needs me to come with her to look for a new car, has to be tonight cos she's free from horsey. Tour of Edinburgh's finest car dealers spouting various degrees of shite here we come :wack:

Cyas on Wednesday guys :thumbs:

tDR
30-06-2003, 23:04
How'd it go then? Has Jonny's S13 been resurrected?

mad k
01-07-2003, 01:21
good night ,
went well good to get to meet everyone ( kev ,jonny dobergoose, Sandy , iain , evil scooby)

jonnys car will be running in no time im sure , mines now looks like a diffrent story - seems ive run a big end and its starting to chap away so looks like its gonna be off the road to get the engine out and replace the mains and big ends , also compresion was down on 3 and 4 kev found so its a new set of rings possibly pistons and valves :) atleast it will keep me busy for a while.

after jonny removed my s bend on my filter and kev/martin done my timing the car seemed a bit faster on the way home this could jsut be placebo thouhg with me looking for more gains in it:)

thanks very much to Kev, Martin , jonny for all helping me with the car and the bits and bobs much apreciated guys, and cheers for taking us a run in ure sx marting the thing felt so quick wasnt sure what speed you were doing as i had my hood covering my eyes so i couldnt see how fast you were taking those bends at:eek:

cheers for a good night ,kenny.

Kev
01-07-2003, 04:02
Was good to meet u Kenny, and ur mate, sorry didnt catch his name:o
Ill defo get back to u about those heatsheilds, and ive put a thread in the mods section to see whats involved in having a traders section.

Sandy, good to see u again, and cheers for the Tee's mate, im sure we sx boys will be ur best friends from now on mate, but still not sold on those washers lol.

Ross, Iain, good to meet u boys, sorry u were expecting me to know about 14's, but ive only seen a couple and not really worked on them so didnt just wanna talk alot of sh!te, maybe mr. M will be more knowledgable.
Iain u never mentioned anything about the filter or sump mate, and it was clean outa my head till u went.

Ross it may be worth asking the 14 boys about the drilling into the plenum.

Kev

mad k
01-07-2003, 11:02
Kev , my mates name was Dave hes right into cars and likes my wee nissan he was impresed by all your knowlage on S13, yeah sure get back on those heatsheilds and well get some protype made and see how that goes.:)

Well ive got all my planned engine rebuild stuff on order today should arrive tomorow :) ive got coming-

1 x big end set
1x main set of shells
1x full gasket set (top and bottom)
1x set of head bolts
1x full set of rings
1x oil pump
8x inlet valves
8x exhaust valves
1x full timing belt kit inc tensioners

im pretty gutted my dawes device came this morning from apex and im not gonna be able to check it out now coz i dont wanna damage the big ends anymore than i have already.

Kenny.

dunc
01-07-2003, 11:08
Originally posted by mad k

Well ive got all my planned engine rebuild stuff on order today should arrive tomorow :) ive got coming-

1 x big end set
1x main set of shells
1x full gasket set (top and bottom)
1x set of head bolts
1x full set of rings
1x oil pump
8x inlet valves
8x exhaust valves
1x full timing belt kit inc tensioners


Can I ask how much this stuff skinned you?

JonnySpeedbump
01-07-2003, 11:11
Hey,
good to meet you all :wave: !
Kenny did you manage to find out a price for the oil pump, if my mains are OK would I be able to swap the bearings for an oil pump?
Cheers mate,
Jonny

Iain200sx
01-07-2003, 11:30
Dont worry about oil and that cause i left my oil filter down in england so i didnt have one to put on, so i didnt fancy the oil change. My mate is coming up next week so hes bringing it up and ill do it then.

Was good to meet everyone, hows your car jonny? Did you finish it? Sorry for shooting off so early but mate has baby and really needed to get back. Plus ive spent to lon g in england and was freezing! :o

See you all at brucefield meet next. :wave:

mad k
01-07-2003, 11:42
jonny the oil pump is pretty dear mate will cost you £80 + vat , thats for a brand new one and its the one for the turbo .

ive found a company doing it far cheaper but its bad build quality the company dont hold a good name either and dont list the pump for a turbo but they are sure it fits i can do u that one for around £50 i can do u that one but to be honest i wouldnt risk it.

Dunc all that gear isnt that dear including vat i think it comes in around £270 but im no 100% on that as im getting it all at cost im probibly gonna have to pay all the carriage myself on the stuff but cant grumble really and my boss will probibly let me off with some things aslong as i let people know where i got my stuff ect.

dunc
01-07-2003, 11:54
That sounds very reasonable Kenny, are you a storeman?

Midgers
01-07-2003, 12:06
dammit :mad: how did i miss this thread:o
ahh well, sounds like you all had a good wee mini meet :D

mad K what's the chance of you getting an oil filter and a tub of this super dooper castrol oil for the next brucefield meet?
:)

mad k
01-07-2003, 12:18
filter is not a problem mate what oil is it? we only have magnetec here no costrol rs which will be a wee while before it comes in.

Dunc - my official title is "SENIOR SALES EXECUTIVE" for PISTONS & COMPONENTS but yeah im just a glorified store man ;)

dunc
01-07-2003, 12:30
Originally posted by mad k

Dunc - my official title is "SENIOR SALES EXECUTIVE" for PISTONS & COMPONENTS but yeah im just a glorified store man ;)

Oops, I had visions of you working at a peugeot garage or something and sneaking 200sx pistons into the order's on the sly :eek: :D :D

"Are these forged pistons really needed for a oil filter change on a 205GL?"

Midgers
01-07-2003, 12:34
what different grades of magatec are there available? Is there a fully synth one?

dunc
01-07-2003, 12:36
Originally posted by MrMidgers
what different grades of magatec are there available? Is there a fully synth one?

There's just one type (I think? - 10W40), and I believe its semi-synthetic. But it doesn't really give a straight answer on the subject on the tin IIRC.

vibrio
01-07-2003, 13:37
Originally posted by MrMidgers
what different grades of magatec are there available? Is there a fully synth one?


you get 0-30, 10-40, 15-50 as well I think. it is semi-synthetic. I don;t like it. made my punto sporting run like a sack of shit

dunc
01-07-2003, 14:06
Originally posted by vibrio
you get 0-30, 10-40, 15-50 as well I think. it is semi-synthetic. I don;t like it. made my punto sporting run like a sack of shit

I've only every seen 10-40, it must be the most popular one? I rate it highly but can't really compair it to much other than my car having had a hard life and its only every had Mobil-1 and magnatec in it and its not broken yet :notworthy

evil_scooby
01-07-2003, 14:14
Yeh just thought I would say cheers to kev for lettin us pop round and clog up his street with all the cars.
Although that wee kid on the bike was scaryin me :p im sure he was tryin to hit my car. Stupid BMXs

Nice to meet u lot.
See u at Brucefield.

Ross.

Iain, did u find that number for wheel alignment?
I looked on SSR but seemed to be in edinburgh :(

Kev
03-07-2003, 05:05
ross, and iain, this was the place suggested by ssr boys in glasgow.

http://sites.yell.com/passport/goto/kennethbrownmotor/home.html?nat_id=533818&mapable=true

If u go, let us know the score cos ill need to get it done when all my suspension is set properly.

Kev

mad k
04-07-2003, 00:26
Kenny browns is a top place and a top guy who knows his stuff , he prepares a lot of rally cars for people, although his prices are skyhigh but his work is good , he deals alot with my work and has done me favours , the guy even checked out a shady shabby 5 grand wrx i was thinking of buying at the start of the year on his own accord for me and made me stay well clear of it.

Kev,Jonny,Martin- how did replacing the big ends go? was there much wear on the shaft? did yous get it sorted?

Kenny.

JonnySpeedbump
04-07-2003, 00:48
Car's back together, still rattles like fook, shoulda got a regrind. :(

I'm off to kill myself.......










































:p

dunc
04-07-2003, 09:03
Running fine then Jonny :rolleyes: :thumbs:

mad k
04-07-2003, 10:51
Jonny , get the shaft out of it and providing the mains are ok i can grind the big ends to the first undersize it will clean at and polish the mains so u dont need to buy a new set ( coz there feckin dear;) ) im pretty sure if its still rattling then your gonna wreck ure journels mate.

let me know mate.

cheers,kenny.

JonnySpeedbump
04-07-2003, 12:55
Originally posted by dunc
Running fine then Jonny :rolleyes: :thumbs:

Nope the :p was for me killing myself, the car's gubbed :( .
J

dunc
04-07-2003, 14:11
Originally posted by JonnySpeedbump
Nope the :p was for me killing myself, the car's gubbed :( .
J

FFEEECCCKKKKKK!

:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :| :|

JonnySpeedbump
04-07-2003, 17:27
Cheers Kenny,
I'll let you know, good luck with the engine ;) :thumbs: .

Starting to think my crank may have been re-ground b4 (didn't check the shells tho' :o :mad: ). I put standard shells on ......:rolleyes: .... fcuk!

J

mad k
04-07-2003, 17:35
i doubt it mate , if ure crank had been ground a quarter mil (ten thousand or 0.25 ) is a lot of clearance for ure rod to move up and down , i think you would have noticed that to be honest. if u still have the old shells i can mic them for u and check.

let me know what way ure gonna go with it and il get it sorted for u mate :thumbs: but i would recomend changing the oil pump definetly.

cheers , well be working on my engine right through the night till its done get everything ready, were starting at 7pm tonight so if anybody isnt doing anything yous are more than welcome to pop down , just remember and bring some overalls with u ;) .

cheers,kenny.

Iain200sx
06-07-2003, 11:17
kenny mate do you know the name/number of that place in clydebank that does the window tiniting we were talking about the other night? Cheers mate :thumbs:

mad k
06-07-2003, 13:04
chk out his website

www.prestige-auto-tints.co.uk

Unit 4
North Elgin Place
Clydebank

Robert - 07932 051 794



hope that helps iain :thumbs:


Kenny.

JonnySpeedbump
06-07-2003, 14:23
K,
how'd it go with the engine mate? You got a runner again?

Martin's gonna give me the crank out of his other engine as it wasn't knocking (ie. shouldn't need re-ground). Would you be able to check it for me tho', just to make sure (It'll be next week prob's)?

Cheers,
Jonny

mad k
06-07-2003, 15:37
Jonny is the replacement shaft you are getting at standerd size? yeah sure get it to me and il mic it for you to check it not a problem :thumbs: ,Have you thought about your conrod? coz if that shell has even moved slightly your rod will be knackered mate providing its not to bad it can be resized back to std but again its beter to be safe than sorry all we would do is check it for perfect ovality and make sure itl be ok for refitting if it needs resized back to standered that will cost £25+ vat mate.


My engine rebuild is going well , got the engine out and stripped apart by 6am on sat morning but we were just taking it easy really doing it at a lesurely pace, its all sitting waiting on my shaft and rods to be picked up from our engineering shop tomorow

the shaft had a very slight lip on journel number 2 which couldnt be felt by running your finger over it but if you put your nail on to it would just catch , the shell had little groves in it as if there was something inbetween that and the shaft when i matched it up to the trouble tracer chart i have it looks like " contamination" . the sump had been off before and instead of using a sump gasket they used masses of instant gasket ive never seen as much of this used on a sump before , when i opened the back of the oil pump up there were traces of silicone inside it and also in the oil pick up pick was all gunged up with it so this apeares to be my cause of the big end to run.

rather than just putting standerd shells back in i decided to get the shaft ground as it was making that knocking noise from the very slight groove i didnt want to risk it and for the cost of .25 shells it wasnt worth risking.

Jonny i can imagine the condition of your shaft though mate if it was knocking over the noise of the engine id imagine it would be pretty goosed to be honest, probibly best to get another shaft or a regrind at the worst.

anyway mate let me know how you get on either way :)

cheers,kenny.

dobergoose
06-07-2003, 15:52
Kenny the sump on a CA18DET only has two little gaskets one front and one rear the sides or flat parts of the sump use liquid gasket.

mad k
06-07-2003, 16:02
are you sure martin ? :confused: .

i definelty have a sump gasket in my full gasket set which is cork for the side straights which are 2 seperate peices, and then theres 2 rubber arches for the crank housings.

there is definetly a sump set listed for it in all the catalouges we have in the work , when its listed as a sump set and not a sump gasket this useully means theres more than one part to it again like the cork straights and the rubber ends :confused:

i hope ive got the gaskets for the right thing here although everything else seems ok.

and the sump gasket deffinelty matches up to the sump perfectly.

i will look into it tomorow im just gonna try and catch up on all my lost sleep today i think :)


Kenny.

dobergoose
06-07-2003, 17:45
The Nissan owners manual thing that you download says its the two rubber arches and liquid gasket. Might be worth posting about the cork gaskets.

mad k
06-07-2003, 20:04
Maybe its a modification by the company that makes the gasket set , but im deffo gona look into it il let you know how i get on tomorow cheers martin :thumbs:

Kenny.

dobergoose
06-07-2003, 20:14
Put up a post about this, your not alone
http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=48021

JonnySpeedbump
07-07-2003, 01:16
Kenny,
that's wierd mate.... I used to have that Dancin' monkey as my Avatar a while back :thumbs: . You a fan of the Monkey Island games or did you just find it by chance?
J

mad k
07-07-2003, 01:20
whats monkey island mate ?:confused:

i seen a guy on the strathy site with it and just copy and pasted the link coz i thought it was pretty cool :) .

kenny.

JonnySpeedbump
07-07-2003, 15:01
Hehe it's a daft adventure game that was out years ago :p .

dunc
07-07-2003, 15:10
Jonny mate, I've got you're turbo! You're a trooper, I'm a :) man. Gave the bucks to martin, cheers to you too :thumbs:

As for monkey Island, I'm no stranger to the antics of a certain Mr Guybrush Threepwood myself ;)

JonnySpeedbump
07-07-2003, 15:29
Glad you're happy with it mate ;) :D. Sorry 'bout the dump pipe studs, I seem to have a habit of snapping the feckers :rolleyes: . When you gonna fit it?

By the way..... "You fight like a dairy farmer" :p :thumbs: .

Cheers,
Jonny

dunc
07-07-2003, 16:53
Originally posted by JonnySpeedbump
When you gonna fit it?



Ah, the fun bit :rolleyes: , hopefully it won't be too long..... but I know what I'm like! :(

*Puts pot on head and fires self out of a cannon*

evil_scooby
09-07-2003, 02:20
that was a class game. :D
good old amiga