View Full Version : The answer to all your rust problems!
SpeedyPete
18-06-2003, 22:37
Take a look at this, interesting theory.
You make your car rust proof by adding an extra current to the chaisis so chemically rust cannot form....
Could save our s13s from the rust grave!
http://www.ruststoponline.com/ruststop-kit.html
Dan@DB-Power
18-06-2003, 23:28
I have seen these before bu it just seems to easy and good to be true.
Dan,
PazzaAE86
18-06-2003, 23:34
Im all ears... A hachi owners dream if it works! I bet it doesnt tho :)
Paz
I wonder if it really works and, if so, how much it costs.... maybe someone gets paid too much and has the spare cash to buy one and do a review ;)
just been talking to my m8 about this, his therory is it will not work because the chassy is an earth, if you make the chassy live it will back up the current and super heat the wire's, i think thats what he said, could be wrong
The only thing that (could) work are those chemicals. "Rx25 Rust Stabilising Converter" is propably same stuff what we get when we buy Noverox. The electric part cannot work IMO..
BTW, I was doing my ice-install and it was not quite finished so my second battery in the boot was not secured. When driving home it moved and + got touch with the chassis. It made a terrible sparking noise and I could see some light coming from the boot. I stopped immediately and moved the battery back to its position. Luckily nothing caught fire.. I then checked my boot and the rust was still there ;) :D .
SpeedyPete
19-06-2003, 07:37
Originally posted by road kill
just been talking to my m8 about this, his therory is it will not work because the chassy is an earth, if you make the chassy live it will back up the current and super heat the wire's, i think thats what he said, could be wrong
I thought that.
The chasis IS the earth of all the devices on and in the car.... though im guessing this is only one way, and no-where near enough to 'heat the wires'
Theres atmospherically generated current on the chasis already so I dunno if it would be a problem?
Anyway, theyre $170, not bad if it cures rust off the car!
I'll see if i can find any reviews....
Braintree
19-06-2003, 08:58
This is like the magnetic super dooper pipe descalers!!
Says it works wonders, but actually works w@nk.
The only good way I know of preventing rust is to bolt a slab of Zinc with good electrical contact to the chassis.
The Zinc acts as a perishable layer and will rust/disintegrate before the Iron in the chassis does. Once the Zinc has had it you replace it!! Simple!!
SpeedyPete
19-06-2003, 09:24
like this device then? :rolleyes:
Braintree
19-06-2003, 09:29
Originally posted by SpeedyPete
like this device then? :rolleyes:
Er, no!!
Originally posted by Lenagh
Whens the bren device never done what it says on the tin ?
What ???
Did pete just edit or am I blind ?
Braintree
19-06-2003, 09:56
Just Blind!! :D
lol apologies my skim reading is shite somehow I must have read his device.
Why don't you buy it and try it out then Pete? Though be careful, cos I'd hate for you to electrecute yourself :p
I think I just fell off my chair u bastid JB.
SpeedyPete
19-06-2003, 11:07
Originally posted by JB
Why don't you buy it and try it out then Pete? Though be careful, cos I'd hate for you to electrecute yourself :p
bitch :p
I'm just looking out for your personal welfare Pete and trying to mend a few bridges.
Afterall it'd be a shame to lose such a valued member of the 200SX community. Plus who'd be left to run your popular S13 Owners Club if you died?
:notworthy
SpeedyPete
19-06-2003, 11:13
what the one that I have no time to run, has no members, and not taking any new ones either? :D
Indeed, i will try not to get bigger shocks than i do now (damn static EVERY TIME!)
turbo pete
19-06-2003, 16:47
doesn't the chassis and zinc have to be submerged in water?
If it was so simple surely manufacturers would be doing this already.
SpeedyPete
19-06-2003, 17:32
But where would their repeated sales come from?
They dont care if their cars are here in 10 years time, they want you to buy new models
Originally posted by turbo pete
doesn't the chassis and zinc have to be submerged in water?
If it was so simple surely manufacturers would be doing this already.
yes I think so
Braintree
19-06-2003, 17:41
Car manufacturers have the option of building cars from Stainless Steel!!
About 15 years ago Volvo nearly released a car made of just this, but in a last minute turn around they realised that they would never sell another car again!! Because the car would last for 50 years and they would go bust!!!
Braintree
19-06-2003, 17:44
No, simple chemistry.
And, in fact iron has to be in water to rust. The atmosphere is the water, after all water is a big player in the air content!!
Trust me it works, th ereason the iron in the steel rusts is because of the electron surplus in Iron. Oxygen has an electron shortage so they get on together very well and create rust.
Zinc has a much better electron surplus than Iron, simple logic the Oxygen prefers to go to the Zinc, so then we get Zinc Oxide.
Martin T
19-06-2003, 17:58
Yes it does work and its called sacrificial protection. It works because they use it on ships. The most likely reason they dont use it on cars is the other metal is sacrificed - hence the name. For it to work, the metal to be sacrificed has to have a higher oxidation potential (I think iron is around 1 Volt) than Iron. Therefore Lithium is the best material, but it gets used too quickly. It needs to be replaced periodically. Adding an electric current works in the same way, however, neither method is perfect.
By connecting the earth of the battery to your car like most manufacturers do, you are allready using this kind of protection.
I hope this answers all questions on the subject.
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