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Well I thought that id do a bit of a project thread on this seeing as its my first 4x4 http://images.landrovernet.com/smilies/smile.gif
I brought it and was not that well in the know and a tad over excited but thats all part of the fun of it http://images.landrovernet.com/smilies/biggrin2.gif
Its a 300Tdi Discovery 1 on an M plate although im not sure what side of the crossover it is for ordering parts yet http://images.landrovernet.com/smilies/redface.gif
As with most of my cars that I plan to keep, use and want relaible I generally strip them, find all the issues I can so then when its done there are no hidden bodges to find !
As expected there was rust but more than I thought there would be (as it always seems) !
The boot floor was totally shot along with the side panels and wheel arches - doubt the 2inch thick sponge that was fitted from the factory helped http://images.landrovernet.com/smilies/rolleyes.gif
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b224/Paulpenuk/Disco/1.jpg
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Upon poking around / stripping other areas it became evident that there was more needed !
Passenger front door shut going soft
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b224/Paulpenuk/Disco/6.jpg
Drivers side rear door shut going soft
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b224/Paulpenuk/Disco/3.jpg
Drivers side scuttle tray
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b224/Paulpenuk/Disco/19.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b224/Paulpenuk/Disco/15.jpg
Front wheel arches are also wrecked but no pictures im afraid but im sure you all know about them http://images.landrovernet.com/smilies/wink.gif
Heater matrix has also been bypassed so guess that it leaks so going to replace that anyway
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b224/Paulpenuk/Disco/2.jpg
Fuel tank strap is also returning to nautre so ended up getting another (not cheap http://images.landrovernet.com/smilies/frown.gif )
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b224/Paulpenuk/Disco/14.jpg
So I got the cutter out and have gone for it - its being welded by Terry - a bloke I met via a local 4x4 club and to say he is helpful and sound is an understatement :cool:
Cutty cutty grindy grindy
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b224/Paulpenuk/Disco/16.jpg
Turns out rearcrossmember is shafted so new one from YRM - awesome service and the part is a great fitment
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b224/Paulpenuk/Disco/17.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b224/Paulpenuk/Disco/18.jpg
Side panels are getting there too
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b224/Paulpenuk/Disco/21.jpg
And tank strap in while the floor from Paddocks is out (another place that has very good and helpful people !
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b224/Paulpenuk/Disco/22.jpg
fook me i thought s13's were bad, but all credit to you for taking the decision to rescue it, if it was mine all the usefull bits would have been removed and the scrappy would have got the rest.
i shall be watching your progress :thumbs:
Chriscooke
07-03-2010, 21:59
Paul why didn't you just buy one in better condition and avoid all of these problems? Kudos for getting it roadworthy again tho.
Looking forward to seeing it and going tagging :thumbs:
fook me i thought s13's were bad, but all credit to you for taking the decision to rescue it, if it was mine all the usefull bits would have been removed and the scrappy would have got the rest.
i shall be watching your progress :thumbs:
You dont find alot until you start digging ;)
Paul why didn't you just buy one in better condition and avoid all of these problems? Kudos for getting it roadworthy again tho.
Looking forward to seeing it and going tagging :thumbs:
As above matey - its like buying an S13. You can either drive it and hope its ok or take the carpets up, look under the arch liners etc. This has pleanty of tax and I reckon it could still have passed an MOT :eek:
Good ones are good money and I dont earn enough :wack: Saying that though its not alot of money - more just time which I dont mind too much.
Chriscooke
07-03-2010, 23:44
Thats a lot more rusty than my old beast. Bet the gearbox works tho :wack:
As said fair play to you mate :)
Thats a lot more rusty than my old beast. Bet the gearbox works tho :wack:
As said fair play to you mate :)
Yours is a "proper" one though :nod:
Not got a box yet then ? :(
zeppelin101
08-03-2010, 07:49
Fcuk that's a right state! Good luck resurrecting it :)
Chriscooke
08-03-2010, 09:51
Yours is a "proper" one though :nod:
Not got a box yet then ? :(
Nope. Box is coming out this week and going to country rovers to get rebuilt:thumbs: Not sure how long it'll take but hopefully get it back in next week as I'm on holiday :thumbs:
Nope. Box is coming out this week and going to country rovers to get rebuilt:thumbs: Not sure how long it'll take but hopefully get it back in next week as I'm on holiday :thumbs:
Ahhh didnt know that they did that kinda thing !
How much that gona cost and what they replacing if you dont mind me asking ?
Chriscooke
08-03-2010, 23:12
Ahhh didnt know that they did that kinda thing !
How much that gona cost and what they replacing if you dont mind me asking ?
Not sure if they do disco boxes but it's worth asking. I think it's going to cost at least 200 notes but it depends on how much i've managed to brake to be honest.
Everywhere else has been quoting nearly £500 for a recon boxs so this isn't that bad.
This is how mine looks at the moment :wack:
http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd253/chriscooke200sx/08032010565.jpg
SidewaysThough
09-03-2010, 01:28
Jeez dude, I promise I didnt know it had that much hidden rust!! I said I knew the boot floor was rusty, and I think the heater matrix may have leaked at some point, hence the bypass!! Mechanics are strong as though!! Glad to see your really getting to work on the old gal!!
I have those keysy here nmow, ill try annd send them from work tomorrow!
Jeez dude, I promise I didnt know it had that much hidden rust!! I said I knew the boot floor was rusty, and I think the heater matrix may have leaked at some point, hence the bypass!! Mechanics are strong as though!! Glad to see your really getting to work on the old gal!!
I have those keysy here nmow, ill try annd send them from work tomorrow!
Not to worry mate they are all going to be like it once you start pulling them apart :nod:
Id rather do it this way than wait until MOT and then get a big shock :wack:
Dan@DB-Power
09-03-2010, 17:30
an all too familiar sight for most Land rover owners :(
Good luck with it all, just bought a Range Rover myself :nod:
an all too familiar sight for most Land rover owners :(
Good luck with it all, just bought a Range Rover myself :nod:
Ohhh I do linke rangies but they rot even more than discos :wack:
Classic V8 or a newer one ?
Rear is now finished unless anything else is found so on to the middle and front http://images.landrovernet.com/smilies/rolleyes.gif
Its not too neat but most will be covered and its a bit of a work horse anyway http://images.landrovernet.com/smilies/smile.gif
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nice job! Id quiet like a 4x4 daily at some point :nod:
Dan@DB-Power
12-03-2010, 15:55
Ohhh I do linke rangies but they rot even more than discos :wack:
Classic V8 or a newer one ?
P38 shape, so still modern looking. Black with 19" wheels :cool:
Apparently they are aluminium bodied on a steel chassis so should be ok :)
Dan :thumbs:
p.s. good work on the new boot floor :)
A posh one then ;)
Just the rest to have done now and then n to putting it back together and all the engine / running side of it :wack:
More progress has been made :)
Basically the drivers sill was getting a tad soft in places and the scuttle tray had been filled with sealer so choppy choppy platey platey. By the time everything is refitted then it will all be hidden anyway :)
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Bit more welding progress :rolleyes:
A nice crack had appeared by the seat mount so that got a nice line done on it
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b224/Paulpenuk/Disco/43.jpg
Along with the wheel arch
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b224/Paulpenuk/Disco/49.jpg
And all the passenger side sills
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So be finished on the welding so its then putting new heater matrix in along with the interior and then sorting the oil leak and then using it :D
Kinda forgot about this so ill tyr and sum it all up quickly !
After doing all the welding I then got some nice big tyres on steel wheels and sold the clear indicators for rather alot :shock:
So then I had this :
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b224/Paulpenuk/Disco/DSC00339.jpg
Then I went of my first 4x4ing adventure in a forest trying to get "clips". I have since discovered that this was not the best place to do my first adventure as im a tad competitive and trees do damage :cry:
So after that day it looked like this : http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b224/Paulpenuk/Disco/DSC00340.jpg
A wrecked wing, missing bullbar, broken headlamp and indicator, totally bent drivers side and two broken rear windows. Whoops ! Did I mention that I needed it 3 days later so my fater in law could tow a caravan to Glastonbury festival :oops:
Well it made it there and back and the only fault was the rear tyres rubbing on bumps and starting to seperate the wings from the body. So then it came home, I felt sad for a bit and decided to get it more "robust".
So I cut the arches more, reattached the rear quarters, put a new alpine glass in and made a rear quarter one from plastic for the time being.
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b224/Paulpenuk/Disco/DSC00438.jpg
Then went on a mission when I brought a dirt cheap winch that I took apart and got working after a few hours. With it working I decided I needed to make a bumper to house it so a kind mate helped me out and then I had this :
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b224/Paulpenuk/Disco/DSC00437.jpg
So I though id give this 4x4ing another go on sunday so went to a local quarry (less trees ;)) and had loads of fun. Discovered that if you plan things out, take your time and admit that you cant compter with full trialers you break less - well nothing actually !
I did however discover two things
1 - My towbar that I need likes to act more like a plough and beach me constantly so that needs sorting
2 - My wheels still rub my arches front and rear during articulation so I either need to cut them more or lift the car up.
3 - Ive still not replaced my plastic window but id rather not put more glass in - some metal would be better but not sure how just yet
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So there you go - the last 8 months or so :D
Chriscooke
15-09-2010, 20:45
New bumper looks spot on mate :D What's the quarry like and where is it? Could be interested in tagging along ;)
Edit: Oh and that window is class
New bumper looks spot on mate :D What's the quarry like and where is it? Could be interested in tagging along ;)
Edit: Oh and that window is class
Its in a place called Charlton Adam near Keinton Mandeville but it was heaving - must have been about 50 cars :eek:
The window was temporary about 3 months ago seeing as its from a mates shed window spares pile :wack:
Went out for a play with a few mates sunday and I 100% need to stop the towbar and rubbing issues.
Did do a bit of a service though - fuel filter, fuel sedimentor, oil filter and oil Smile
Tried to fit a steering arm guard but my steering arm bolt wont come out Sad
Also broke the bulb holer for my front indicator so need a new one.
Oh and my whole front grill and lights area is getting very "loose".......
Total skills fella :thumbs: I'd have scrapped that :o
Really respect people who can take on projects like that and see past things :cool: Puts people breaking 200's to shame in some ways.
Chriscooke
20-09-2010, 20:49
Total skills fella :thumbs: I'd have scrapped that :o
Really respect people who can take on projects like that and see past things :cool: Puts people breaking 200's to shame in some ways.
Have a look at his onevia thread if you want to see a car being brought back from the dead ;)
Have a look at his onevia thread if you want to see a car being brought back from the dead ;)
On it :thumbs:
Edit: Got a link? Failed at searchy..
You fooking nutter :D
Not as much as you - yours is tidy and clean :p
Total skills fella :thumbs: I'd have scrapped that :o
Really respect people who can take on projects like that and see past things :cool: Puts people breaking 200's to shame in some ways.
I would have if I hadnt just brought it :wack:
I tend to have a habit of semi stripping everything I buy to find all the shit and bodges of past to sort out. You know what you have then. Think its due to finding all the dodgy stuff working on cars at work lol
On it :thumbs:
Edit: Got a link? Failed at searchy..
Note the start date lol (http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=372931)
Not as much as you - yours was tidy and clean :p
Corrected for truth :D
Its still straight and all the panels match :p
Have now fitted my steering guard thingy too :D
Getting the steering arm bolt out was messy as both ends snapped off so needed lots of hammering and heat but got there in the end
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b224/Paulpenuk/Disco/DSC00441.jpg
And then today my speedo decided to stop working on the motorway :rolleyes:
Yer that steering bolt is a bit of a bastard isnt it :rant: although mine wasnt as bad as yours :wack: Got the nut off and then used loads of WD40 and worked the bolt side to side and finally wacked it out from the other side :thumbs:
Oh and fitting a bullbar as well is a complete cnut as they mount in the same place :rolleyes:
Nothing a little bit of :smash: couldnt fix though :D
Looking good :thumbs:
way2fastforu
11-10-2010, 09:49
only just stumbled across this...have to say i like your disco!!...do ya do much off roadin in it??
Yer that steering bolt is a bit of a bastard isnt it :rant: although mine wasnt as bad as yours :wack: Got the nut off and then used loads of WD40 and worked the bolt side to side and finally wacked it out from the other side :thumbs:
Oh and fitting a bullbar as well is a complete cnut as they mount in the same place :rolleyes:
Nothing a little bit of :smash: couldnt fix though :D
Looking good :thumbs:
Well luckily I brought a spare vehicle for parts and the one on that came off fine - it was soaked in oil by the engine though - leaks aint always bad :wack:
I knew it would be bad after some reading so was prepared - was hoping to at least get the nut off though :rolleyes:. One the nut end was done the head was turning fully for a good few turns then snapped off and went solid again :smash:
My bull bar is gong to be part of my front bumper when the welder comes out :D
only just stumbled across this...have to say i like your disco!!...do ya do much off roadin in it??
Cheers chap. I try to but with it being a daily and owning a PS13 the time and funds are greatly limited :facepalm:
way2fastforu
12-10-2010, 10:42
Cheers chap. I try to but with it being a daily and owning a PS13 the time and funds are greatly limited :facepalm:
i know how ya feel dude im currently usin my ps as a daily but tryin to get my bro to sell me his series 2 disco so i can use it as a daily/tower/offroad bit of fun:D
Needs a lift :D
Kudos on the welding, rear floor area looks very tidy now! I need to attack the front of mine and the rear crossmember... Seeing as I've never welded before, it could be a long project :rolleyes:
Certainly two expensive toys though, my bank balance will be as red as my 200 if they both keep demanding attention
Needs a lift :D
Kudos on the welding, rear floor area looks very tidy now! I need to attack the front of mine and the rear crossmember... Seeing as I've never welded before, it could be a long project :rolleyes:
Certainly two expensive toys though, my bank balance will be as red as my 200 if they both keep demanding attention
Lift is next but like you said a landy, 200 mrs and chrimbo its getting expensive :wack:
Welding will be fine if you do some reading and take you time - rushing it will teach you nothing and get bad results :nod:
Snow and my first greenlaning trip over the last month were "interesting" :D
Id really need to get a front light guard setup as the amount of headlights and indicators im going through is unreal lol
Then a 2" lift :nod:
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b224/Paulpenuk/Disco/DSC00462.jpg
Cool. Least it's getting used! Could have used this the other day, when it took me about 30-40 minutes to get up an ice-slicked lane in the Audi (FWD).
How much did you pay originally for the Disco?
Cool. Least it's getting used! Could have used this the other day, when it took me about 30-40 minutes to get up an ice-slicked lane in the Audi (FWD).
How much did you pay originally for the Disco?
I do pride myself that it gets used for what it was designed for :D
I think I gave £800 for it towards the start of this year which was a tad high looking at how low they went in the summer and the work it needed. Saying that though they have all now gone back up due to the snow lol
work2drift
31-12-2010, 16:07
Well I thought that id do a bit of a project thread on this seeing as its my first 4x4 http://images.landrovernet.com/smilies/smile.gif
I brought it and was not that well in the know and a tad over excited but thats all part of the fun of it http://images.landrovernet.com/smilies/biggrin2.gif
Its a 300Tdi Discovery 1 on an M plate although im not sure what side of the crossover it is for ordering parts yet http://images.landrovernet.com/smilies/redface.gif
As with most of my cars that I plan to keep, use and want relaible I generally strip them, find all the issues I can so then when its done there are no hidden bodges to find !
As expected there was rust but more than I thought there would be (as it always seems) !
The boot floor was totally shot along with the side panels and wheel arches - doubt the 2inch thick sponge that was fitted from the factory helped http://images.landrovernet.com/smilies/rolleyes.gif
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b224/Paulpenuk/Disco/1.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b224/Paulpenuk/Disco/4.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b224/Paulpenuk/Disco/7.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b224/Paulpenuk/Disco/8.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b224/Paulpenuk/Disco/9.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b224/Paulpenuk/Disco/11.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b224/Paulpenuk/Disco/12.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b224/Paulpenuk/Disco/13.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b224/Paulpenuk/Disco/10.jpg
Upon poking around / stripping other areas it became evident that there was more needed !
Passenger front door shut going soft
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b224/Paulpenuk/Disco/6.jpg
Drivers side rear door shut going soft
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b224/Paulpenuk/Disco/3.jpg
Drivers side scuttle tray
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b224/Paulpenuk/Disco/19.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b224/Paulpenuk/Disco/15.jpg
Front wheel arches are also wrecked but no pictures im afraid but im sure you all know about them http://images.landrovernet.com/smilies/wink.gif
Heater matrix has also been bypassed so guess that it leaks so going to replace that anyway
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b224/Paulpenuk/Disco/2.jpg
Fuel tank strap is also returning to nautre so ended up getting another (not cheap http://images.landrovernet.com/smilies/frown.gif )
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b224/Paulpenuk/Disco/14.jpg
So I got the cutter out and have gone for it - its being welded by Terry - a bloke I met via a local 4x4 club and to say he is helpful and sound is an understatement :cool:
Cutty cutty grindy grindy
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b224/Paulpenuk/Disco/16.jpg
Turns out rearcrossmember is shafted so new one from YRM - awesome service and the part is a great fitment
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b224/Paulpenuk/Disco/17.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b224/Paulpenuk/Disco/18.jpg
Side panels are getting there too
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b224/Paulpenuk/Disco/21.jpg
And tank strap in while the floor from Paddocks is out (another place that has very good and helpful people !
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b224/Paulpenuk/Disco/22.jpg
Guess it didn't come with a MOT then
:D
look a good project
I wont requote it again for our 56k friends :D
It did :eek:
work2drift
31-12-2010, 17:23
look a good project good luck
For sale !
Not got the time or money to use it and want the Nissan done !
want the Nissan done !
youre telling me! need this car done and its just a never ending supply of small jobs that need doing and i keep getting held up at every opportunity. For example, why the hell are the exhaust studs M9??!! And now the effing clutch master cylinder is being a homo
youre telling me! need this car done and its just a never ending supply of small jobs that need doing and i keep getting held up at every opportunity. For example, why the hell are the exhaust studs M9??!! And now the effing clutch master cylinder is being a homo
Oh the list of litte jobs on mine is building up but I do tend to try and keep on top of them rather than leaving them all to the end :nod:
If I can get sell it then ill be buying some nice shiny RB25 bits so someone buy my car :D
i created my final list yesterday and it stands at 20 items, that includes trivial things like fill with water. i had to put some easy ones in there!!
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