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In an attempt to help me keep the car as per this thread http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=444287
I have had a look at the wiring and I think it is not meant to be there!
Here is the front of the car as it stands
http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=444287
here is an image of the wires which I think were put there by japman!
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2796/4325569134_7635978237_b.jpg
The grey connector goes the the back of head lamp which plugs onto the bulb, the other side feeds onto the loom! Now those pink, red and green wires also come out from the near the loom and go into the plug, then go right to the other side of the car. Before if the pink and red was not connected to each other (you can see the shit connections) I had no main beam. So I connected them and had main beam but I touched them when main beam was on and now it doesn't work
Here is the other side
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4065/4325569138_a927e1fa64_b.jpg
Is this there on yours guys?
martinbattye
02-02-2010, 16:17
mmmmmmmmmm thats really nice..
John Bennett
02-02-2010, 17:13
Well, at least they used colours that match :wack:
I think it'll be fair to assume it's similar to the UK car but without the dim-dip controller box.
If you look at the S13 workshop manual, EL-38 there's a diagram there - colours look right. There definitely shouldn't be a bridge of wires across the car :no: - each light is fed from it's own plug (remove the extra wires for now) and its own independent circuit.
I've never mucked on with the lighting circuit so I can't instantly think of any tests to try (and I don't know what affects what), but looking at things that may pop - do you have a headlight timer box on your car?* Should be underneath the steering wheel somewhere. I'd try and borrow another one and try that.
* assuming that before it broke, it used to work as normal and no-one's buggered around with stuff, like sleepy eyes.
japs can't wire plain and simple i stripped out some amount of shit out of my ae86 and my two 180sxs you wouldn't believe the amount of crap in behind the dash and shit
japs can't wire plain and simple i stripped out some amount of shit out of my ae86 and my two 180sxs you wouldn't believe the amount of crap in behind the dash and shit
Totally agree! I nearly had a fit when I pulled the fuel pump out of my starlet to find a supra one bodged in with with single core cable just about twisted together.........
So just remove the connections from the bridge and connect it back to the loom is that correct?
John Bennett
03-02-2010, 08:13
So just remove the connections from the bridge and connect it back to the loom is that correct?
Yes, that'll make the bit around the headlights correct so do that.
What I was trying to say is that it still might not work as something else may be buggered (and why were the wires there in the first place)?
Well its a start. Ill do that when I get home from work and see what happens! Where should the wires lead to the fuse box by the battery?
John Bennett
03-02-2010, 09:14
It's not so simple - the wires go to retract relays in the fuse box, to the headlight timer (behind the steering wheel), to the popup button and to the selector stalk.
They do use some of the battery fusebox fuses too.
Attempting rectifying this tomorrow, be ready to help via sxoc
Sideways14a
05-02-2010, 19:10
Pffft your all amatures..
Heres my old piggyback loom i made up a couple of years back, bullet connectors, blocks and general fook-wittery abound.
Its worse now, i have the wideband in there, an additional emanage harness (bodged) and of course the rltc loom patched in to the emanage loom patched into the main one..
I recon on 30-40 wires ...
http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/449/tanglebu9.jpg
Pffft your all amatures..
Yes I am!
Sideways14a
06-02-2010, 14:51
Yes I am!
Dont worry, it takes years of experience in bodging to come up with a mess like i have..You start off at the bottom with elecy tape, graduating through scotch blocks, multiway plastic terminal blocks, push fit connectors and finally onto a degree in making a shit state.
You will get there one day though... Just remember never to use an iron or heat shrink as that's to tidy a job :thumbs:
No good, it makes no sence. The wires go to the fuses and relays. No fuse has popped! I have light on one dipped nothing on the other side. I have removed those wires and lots of relay clicking ensued! I have no fcuking idea whats going on! Wish someone could just fix it!
Sideways14a
06-02-2010, 14:58
Stand back, sit down and take 5 mins.
First off do you have a meter, i would make 200% sure that all wires go where you think they do. Use a continuity test on each end and double check everything.
Also triple check all earth's.... even try running a direct one back from the lights to the battery as a temp solution to see if thats where the fault is.
Well I don't know how do to any of that! It's really ****ing me off! No point getting an auto electrician in as I doubt they will have a clue either
I'd be willing to bet that the reason he'd connected the extra wires from one headlight to the other is because one had stopped working and as a quick fix he just bridged one light to the other. So if you've removed those bridged wire's he put in you need to find what the original problem was.
I take it your current situation is that: both lights pop up, but only one side lights up and only on dipped?
Sideways14a
06-02-2010, 21:17
No point getting an auto electrician in as I doubt they will have a clue either
:wack: I would flipping well hope he would :D
Yeah that's the problem dunk and sideways I rang two and they asked if it was an import, I said yes and they didn't want to know! Taking it to unit 18 hopefully
John Bennett
08-02-2010, 09:21
If you look at that nasty diagram I stuck up, you'll see that ultimately the stalk on the steering wheel, the popup button and the 'headlight timer' control what's going on. Is there no-one nearby with an S13 and some bits you could borrow to plug in and try?
No i am all on my lonesome! Is the headlight timer a silver box? After I removed the cables I turned on the lights and had every relay and that box clicking/buzzing!
John Bennett
08-02-2010, 11:53
No i am all on my lonesome! Is the headlight timer a silver box? After I removed the cables I turned on the lights and had every relay and that box clicking/buzzing!
Nah, it's a little plastic box. I think I was wrong above and it's actually by the ECU in the passenger footwell. It should have 'headlight timer written on it'.
Whats that silver box then!
John Bennett
08-02-2010, 12:43
You'll have to give me more info than that - where is this box, has it got anything written on it? (got a picture)?
Ill get a picture when I get back at 3:30!
Carta how did this work out in the end?
Im having a problem with my sidelight and dash light fuse melting! Frickin annoying!
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