View Full Version : So then.
..Seeing us a few of us make journeys to you, when are you lot going to come up this way then?
..Seeing us a few of us make journeys to you, when are you lot going to come up this way then?
Its already in discussion we've had a certain birthday invite just waiting for him to get back to me with details:thumbs:
I mean further up this way as in MK way!! He comes this way often!
VIDAL BABBOON
11-10-2009, 23:48
I was up there last weekend :nod:
Well Lemington to be exact but it's only a skid away from you :)
Word of warning too the 7 bridge is now charging van prices for cars with no back seats :(
Its already in discussion we've had a certain birthday invite just waiting for him to get back to me with details:thumbs:
Details are being forumlated, along with a variety of options as to how the day is going to pan out :nod:
I mean further up this way as in MK way!! He comes this way often!
Bah your only an hour away, all the cool kids are south of Oxford :p
Word of warning too the 7 bridge is now charging van prices for cars with no back seats :(
Do you not remember my rant about this at the camping?
I wonder if the marks of my 'protest' are still there? :wack:
You need some form of event to get us there! not camping at this time of year either! BRRRRR :wack:
Word of warning too the 7 bridge is now charging van prices for cars with no back seats :(
WTF, how did they justify it? Did you challenge them at all? :eek:
richy200
12-10-2009, 12:29
I was up there last weekend :nod:
Well Lemington to be exact but it's only a skid away from you :)
Word of warning too the 7 bridge is now charging van prices for cars with no back seats :(
they can't do that surely! also what if you go to the self pay booth?
VIDAL BABBOON
12-10-2009, 18:00
I threw my toys out of the pram and sent the car through 4 gears with no traction, it's probably cost me £100 worth of rubber but it relieved some stress lol
Rasta: It entered my mind just at the point of no return lol
I had no change only a note so had to go to a booth :(
It's not going to happen next time :no: straight to the coin bin for me :nod:
I threw my toys out of the pram and sent the car through 4 gears with no traction, it's probably cost me £100 worth of rubber but it relieved some stress lol
Rasta: It entered my mind just at the point of no return lol
I had no change only a note so had to go to a booth :(
It's not going to happen next time :no: straight to the coin bin for me :nod:
Yep, likewise first 3 lit straight up rolling out of there.
Well at least I am not the only one! I would have gone to a coin bin but I only had a tenner, which turns out wasnt bloody enough! :mad:
Dave270R
12-10-2009, 18:37
Word of warning too the 7 bridge is now charging van prices for cars with no back seats :(
That's the gayest thing I've ever heard :indiff:
Also I swear it doesnt mention this on there website, or on the big signs on the side of the road before the booths, it only tells you off this fcking rip off charge at the toll charge sign AT the booth! :wack:
VIDAL BABBOON
12-10-2009, 19:04
Coin bin for me from now on :nod:
Next time I am over that way, ANYONE remind me to get change!
VIDAL BABBOON
12-10-2009, 19:54
Im going to eventually :nod:
You need some form of event to get us there! not camping at this time of year either! BRRRRR :wack:
Definatly no camping envolved:thumbs:
Details are being forumlated, along with a variety of options as to how the day is going to pan out :nod:
Well formulate quicker and pm us the details:thumbs:
Coin bin for me from now on :nod:
Definatly the way forward:thumbs: either that or I'm just going to handbrake up and sit there:nod:, can't be legal surly car is a car , van or commercial van is a van:confused:
Definatly no camping envolved:thumbs:
Well formulate quicker and pm us the details:thumbs:
Definatly the way forward:thumbs: either that or I'm just going to handbrake up and sit there:nod:, can't be legal surly car is a car , van or commercial van is a van:confused:
Nein NO camping will be involved don't worry!
You have mail! :nod:
barryjdart
12-10-2009, 21:36
Right, if by removing the rear seat(s), the car is classified as a van - a two seater - what happens if you are in a Smart 4Two? Does that count as a van then? No back seat.:wack: And if you folded the rear seats down in a hatchback - say you were carrying a large item - does that mean that again, the vehicle becomes a van?
I think its done on if the car originally had back seats but they have been removed then there going to try and charge you the stupid amount.
But something that doesnt come with backseats at all as stock are apparently fine?! :s
Dave270R
12-10-2009, 21:42
Definatly the way forward:thumbs: either that or I'm just going to handbrake up and sit there:nod:
That's what I'd do :D
Definatly no camping envolved:thumbs:
Well formulate quicker and pm us the details:thumbs:
Definatly the way forward:thumbs: either that or I'm just going to handbrake up and sit there:nod:, can't be legal surly car is a car , van or commercial van is a van:confused:It's a hard one to call as there is a legal definition of a "car derived van"
Pretty sure that something like a fiesta or a corsa van which could easily have rear windows and seats fitted was liable to a higher rate of taxation if it was less than 3 years old as they were vat free as a van
The more I think about it the more illegal it seems
I might even go down there when the car is running properly and demand police attendance if they try to charge me commercial vehicle prices :D
It mentions NOTHING about this charge on there site http://www.severnbridge.co.uk/toll_prices.shtml
Or on the big signs on the road before you hit the bridge.
First thing you know about it, is either when you read the tiny sign on the toll booth, or when they demand money out of you, by which point your fcuked as there is no way out.
It mentions NOTHING about this charge on there site http://www.severnbridge.co.uk/toll_prices.shtml
Or on the big signs on the road before you hit the bridge.
First thing you know about it, is either when you read the tiny sign on the toll booth, or when they demand money out of you, by which point your fcuked as there is no way out.
Are you saying theres a sign on the booth saying cars with no back seats?
Been having a look and Severn bridge and highway agency refer to Cars as Catagory 1 and vans etc as Catagory 2. Definitions for these are out lined (although elements eg price have been revised) in the Severn Bridge tolls order 2003 (https://www.hmso.gov.uk/si/si2003/uksi_20033276_en.pdf). Which then refers you to definitions set out in the Severn bridge tolls act 1992 section 8(1)
Which defines car as
“motor car” has the meaning given by section 185 of the [1988 c. 52.] Road Traffic Act 1988,"
Our problem comes from this bit defining vans
“goods vehicle” means a motor vehicle constructed or adapted for use for the carriage or haulage of goods or burden of any description
But in our favour it quotes as
"and where a vehicle would otherwise fall within more than one category it shall be taken for the purposes of this Act to fall only within that with the lower or lowest number."
:annoyed:I still searching though:annoyed:
Are you saying theres a sign on the booth saying cars with no back seats?
Yeah I am sure on the sign on the actual booth it makes reference to it.
I'll look on the way home for the sign, may even snap a pic :)
VIDAL BABBOON
13-10-2009, 18:10
I'll look on the way home for the sign, may even snap a pic :)
Any joy with a picture mate ?
I should have kept the receipt but threw it out of the window in disgust just after gaining traction lol
I did try emailing them when we got back from the camping but it bounced my email :(
Will have another go later/tomorrow
I did try emailing them when we got back from the camping but it bounced my email :(
Will have another go later/tomorrowSurely your car would have 4 rear seats :confused:
It does (or will!) but I wanted to know why they charge that and how the justify it. I wasn't happy!
It does (or will!) but I wanted to know why they charge that and how the justify it. I wasn't happy!It's just like everything else french :annoyed:
Any joy with a picture mate ?
I should have kept the receipt but threw it out of the window in disgust just after gaining traction lol
NO :( I couldnt see it, then my passenger did say she saw something on the main blue price board about no back seats. I will try again tomorrow. :nod:
barryjdart
13-10-2009, 20:54
I was under the impression that to be classified as a van there should not be any glass behind the front doors. If you convert, say a Mini van (bit out of date, I know), by putting rear side glass in you become liable for purchase tax so the vehicle is classed as an estate car. Mind you, I'm not up to date with current legislation, the above is what happened a few years ago.
HAWKEY_180sx
14-10-2009, 00:11
I was up there last weekend :nod:
Well Lemington to be exact but it's only a skid away from you :)
Word of warning too the 7 bridge is now charging van prices for cars with no back seats :(
i would have just sat there in protest even get out and sit on the kerb !!! knob heads !!
It does (or will!) but I wanted to know why they charge that and how the justify it. I wasn't happy!
name change? :wack:
It would appear so :wack:
Bastids as they are :wack:
It would appear so :wack:
Bastids as they are :wack:
are you really done in 60 seconds? ;):smash:
Apparently you had best ask Hitler aka Mark that :wack:
Apparently you had best ask Hitler aka Mark that :wack:
he scares me :cry:
He's not that bad . . .
You'll be fine if you have blonde hair and blue eyes.
Oh wait, I'm fcuked then.
zeppelin101
14-10-2009, 00:52
Oh wait, I'm fcuked then.
Quite literally by the sounds of it...?
Don't now, you will get him all excited! :wack:
VIDAL BABBOON
14-10-2009, 19:26
Pmsl
Any joy with a picture mate ?
I should have kept the receipt but threw it out of the window in disgust just after gaining traction lol
I took a snap yesterday, and this is the only pricing info they have. NOTE, NO REAR SEATS.
http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=64834&stc=1&d=1255619629
I took a snap yesterday, and this is the only pricing info they have. NOTE, NO REAR SEATS.
http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=64834&stc=1&d=1255619629
Nice one madda:thumbs:
Not right not clever and dam well not fair, but I think the line from my earlier post covers them to enforce it
“goods vehicle” means a motor vehicle constructed or adapted for use for the carriage or haulage of goods or burden of any description
Coin bins it is then:D
Nice one madda:thumbs:
Not right not clever and dam well not fair, but I think the line from my earlier post covers them to enforce it
“goods vehicle” means a motor vehicle constructed or adapted for use for the carriage or haulage of goods or burden of any description
Coin bins it is then:DFair point but equally valid is the fact that my car is not insured for business use or the carriage of goods :no:
Fair point but equally valid is the fact that my car is not insured for business use or the carriage of goods :no:
Neither is a Surfy types T4 VW van but there a van:( but how far we'd get arguing that we didn't adapt it to carry a load I don't know, or were they stand that they only notify us as were at the booth.
Neither is a Surfy types T4 VW van but there a van:( but how far we'd get arguing that we didn't adapt it to carry a load I don't know, or were they stand that they only notify us as were at the booth.They would have been originally registered as commercial vehicles tho ;)
They would have been originally registered as commercial vehicles tho ;)
Agreed but there not defining a commercial vehicle as registration, insurance, or tax bracket, The act they passed, defines vehicles as van by " constructed or adapted:( for the purpose"
I think its quite quite C*ntish of them TBH :(
Atomicboy
15-10-2009, 21:25
How stupid - another reason for me not to return to the UK. Could you just throw boxes in the back or something? I can't believe some jobsworth would actually bother looking into the back of a coupe to see if your seats were installed.
What really grinds my gears is it doesnt say this before hand, your only 'made' aware of it, at the actual booth, by which point you've had it.
From now on its always going to be coin bins, but as I mentioned when coming over for the Camping I only had a tenner on me :(
Powered by vBulletin® Version 4.1.9 Copyright © 2012 vBulletin Solutions, Inc. All rights reserved.