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I was thinking last night, that if you had a device that could stop time, and you used it making everyone and everything stop, then you fired a gun, would the bullet move?:confused:
Duff Man
16-05-2003, 10:38
Being a physics type person, I'm going to raise the question, "how could you fire the gun if time is frozen?" In fact how could you unfreeze time again since everything is frozen :eek:
Something to think about.... - back to my plasma physics revision :(
AD
Impossible to say, I reckon, until someone's tried it. Wanna have a go, Hayley? :)
So you don't know either. ;)
Originally posted by Pete C
Wanna have a go, Hayley? :)
:D
...if time had stopped surely you couldn't fire the gun because that would involve a (forward) movement in time??!! Oooh I was never any good at physics..it confused me then and it confuses me now :confused:
Duff Man
16-05-2003, 10:45
Just picture it as a timeline, quite a simple concept. Firing the gun would be an event on the timeline occuring at a time in the future (after the point that time was theoretically frozen). However if time is frozen then the timeline is not advancing therefore we wouldnt get to the event of the gun being fired... or something along those lines.
What next? faster than light travel ;)
:D
AD
I only ever had one physics lesson in my life. :D So I know nothing.
You just see films and that where they can stop time, and I started to think about it as I couldn't sleep last night. I have these kind of thoughts when I can't sleep. :rolleyes: :D
You wouldn't be a ble to fire the gun unless teh gun existed outside of time. You would also have to exist outside of time in order to unfreeze time and not be trapped in a permanent state of freeze.
It all depends if time is linear or spherical
Duff Man
16-05-2003, 10:54
Guess it depends if you are 'The One' or not :D
AD
Thanks for the replies even though I didn't understand any of them. :( As I said, idiot here that understands nothing complicated. :(
Originally posted by Hayley
I only ever had one physics lesson in my life. :D So I know nothing.
You just see films and that where they can stop time, and I started to think about it as I couldn't sleep last night. I have these kind of thoughts when I can't sleep. :rolleyes: :D
Hayley, maybe it's because you have thoughts like this that you can't sleep...hehe :D I'm the same. I casually start thinking about something whilst trying to drift off to sleep and the damn thing keeps me awake all night. To be avoided at all costs - thinking about your 'top 5's' (I'm a bit of a Nick Hornby High Fidelity fan). Really don't do it.
Science, including Physics is just modern day religion, its all belief.
Anyone that tells you otherwise is wrong ..... there are no such things as facts .... Take gravity for instance ... Newtons laws are just approximations .... very large objects and very small objects behave differently .........
So in answer to your question .... if you beleive the bullet will move ... then thats your belief ... stick with it.
I personally believe it wont ....... I dont even believe you can stop time ...... and I believe you can travel faster than light.
:)
Steve(S14a)
16-05-2003, 11:39
Originally posted by Johnny
...... and I believe you can travel faster than light.
:)
In a 2***** of course! :D
Originally posted by Johnny
I personally believe it wont ....... I dont even believe you can stop time ...... and I believe you can travel faster than light.
:)
but if you travel faster than light, then don't the laws of time start to alter?
THEORIES on law and time please ...... they are only theories ... and remember the guy that thought these theories up ......... hadnot even seen a digital watch.
Once upon a time it was a fact the earth was flat
Once upon a time Physics said you could not break the sound barrier.
They are just current theories based on current technologies.
Originally posted by Hayley
I was thinking last night, that if you had a device that could stop time, and you used it making everyone and everything stop, then you fired a gun, would the bullet move?:confused:
You couldn't, because you can't stop time, because time is a human way of measuring change. Time doesn't exist.
Indeed ... A concept used to measure the duration of events.
It was only one of thoses thoughts along the lines of 'what would I do if I was invisible' or ' what if I could fly' ramblings. I didn't actually think it is possible, just mindless, middle of the night wonderings.
gaz.thomas
16-05-2003, 12:49
As far as I understand it time is a theoretical construct designed to make me late for everything regardless of the time i depart for said event. It's like Italy. Everyone drives at ridiculous speeds but never get anywhere 'on time'
Gaz
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Nathan_200sx
16-05-2003, 13:54
I've been reading about time space etc in the new scientist and it make for some very intresting reading, especialy the quantum physics which suggest there could be many parallel universes, and they have also manage to teleport laser light! cool how long before were beaming ourselfs everywhere?
Get you teath into this Hayley, somethig for you to loose sleep over tonight ;):DIs it possible to travel into the past? The conventional view has always been that the laws of physics logically cannot permit this because it would cause paradoxes. But recent studies show that these paradoxes are not as serious as previously thought and that when quantum theory is applied to the problem they may dissolve entirely.
The classic argument used to demonstrate the impossibility of time travel is the so-called grandfather paradox. A person travels back in time and murders his grandfather before he has any children. If he died childless, goes the argument, how could he have had grandchildren, let alone be murdered by one of them?
Some philosophers have questioned the validity of this argument, saying that it proves only that a person cannot go into the past and kill their grandfather, or perform other self-contradictory acts. It does not prove that a person cannot go into the past and leave their grandfather alone.
But then, the argument goes, what about free will? What would prevent a person who had travelled into the past from pulling the trigger of a gun if the gun was pointing at his grandfather? Logically, something must. Probably it would be the most likely thing under the circumstances; the gun might jam, for instance.
David Deutsch of Wolfson College, Oxford has applied quantum mechanics to the analysis of the paradoxes, and believes he has made this philo-sophical discussion academic (Physical Review D, October 1991). He finds that in the quantum case, no obstacle to 'free will' ever appears. This is because in quantum cosmology there is no single history of space, forming a single space-time. All possible histories happen simultaneously - the so-called parallel universes interpretation of quantum theory.
In many situations, it does not matter whether the existence of parallel universes is taken seriously, or whether they are merely considered 'a manner of speaking'. Usually, universes have a minuscule effect on each other once they have become perceptibly different.
But some predictions of quantum theory cannot be expressed in any language other than that of 'parallel universes', says Deutsch. A case in point is the resolution of the time travel paradoxes.
The possibility of time travel depends on whether so-called closed timelike curves, or CTCs, exist. For decades, theorists have known that certain solutions of Einstein's equations of general relativity, which describe the structure of space-time, permit loops in space-time, which contain CTCs. Using these, objects can travel into their own past (see Figure 1). Such journeys do not involve a body travelling faster than the speed of light, which is forbidden by the laws of physics.
In the absence of CTCs, the quantum version of space-time can be thought of as resembling, on a large scale, a sheaf of classical space-times, which are similar to one another except that in each of them a different history occurs. The different space-times interact only on a microscopic scale, giving only indirect evidence of their existence.
But if CTCs are present, something qualitatively different happens, says Deutsch. The 'multiple histories' become interconnected. When a space-time region loops back into the past, it does not necessarily join up with the same copy of the space-time. So the parallel universes become a single entity, and it becomes possible to travel from one to another (see Figure 2).
Exactly how the universes link up depends on what interactions take place in them. In particular, it depends on what the inhabitants decide to do.
The figure shows what would happen, according to Deutsch's calculations, if someone tried to use a time machine to enact the grandfather paradox. History consists of two concurrent branches. Initially, they are identical, both containing the grandfather. In one of them, that person (not actually a grandfather in that history) is murdered by someone who emerges from the time machine. In the other history, no one emerges, and the grandfather goes on to have children and grandchildren, one of whom enters the time machine, travels to an earlier time in the other universe, and becomes a murderer.
This resolution of the grandfather paradox is quite general. Quantum mechanics always provides as many linked universes as there would be conflicting possibilities, according to classical physics.
However hard a person tries to create paradoxes by travelling in time, the linked, multi-sheeted structure of the quantum space-time sets itself up in such a way as to allow the person to do what they set out to do, yet without inconsistency.
So it is clear that time travel can occur without creating troublesome paradoxes. The important question then is: 'Is there a way of achieving time travel practically?' In other words, do CTCs really exist? Although they are not forbidden by the laws of physics, this does not mean that they either occur naturally in the Universe, or that they can be made artificially, allowing, in either case, time machines to be built. But in many attempts by theorists to formulate a quantum theory of gravity, CTCs occur in a 'space-time foam' on a sub-microscopic scale of about 10-35 metres, and reach back about 10-42 seconds into the past. No one knows how to widen them or extend the period for which they exist.
On a large scale, CTCs tend to occur near massive rotating objects, such as rotating black holes. But there are arguments about whether these CTCs are stable or whether they would disappear in the presence of a slight perturbation.
Relativity theorists are also familiar with solutions of Einstein's equations which describe 'wormholes' in space-time - that is, short connections between otherwise distant regions. Recently, Kip Thorne and his colleagues at the California Institute of Technology in Pasadena found that if a wormhole was moved in a certain way, it would cause CTCs to appear. So in principle we would be able to make a time machine if we ever find a large wormhole, or learn how to manufacture one.
One recent paper claimed (though the claim was immediately disputed) that CTCs would also be formed by the interaction of cosmic strings (Physical Review Letters, vol 66, p 1126; vol 68, p 267). Cosmic strings are hypothetical one-dimensional 'faults' in space, left over from the earliest moments of the big bang. They are extremely massive, preserving along their length conditions of high density which occurred early on in the big bang.
Paul_S13
16-05-2003, 13:57
Originally posted by Nathan_200sx
I've been reading about time space etc in the new scientist and it make for some very intresting reading, especialy the quantum physics which suggest there could be many parallel universes, and they have also manage to teleport laser light! cool how long before were beaming ourselfs everywhere?
Get you teath into this Hayley, somethig for you to loose sleep over tonight ;):DIs it possible to travel into the past? The conventional view has always been that the laws of physics logically cannot permit this because it would cause paradoxes. But recent studies show that these paradoxes are not as serious as previously thought and that when quantum theory is applied to the problem they may dissolve entirely.
The classic argument used to demonstrate the impossibility of time travel is the so-called grandfather paradox. A person travels back in time and murders his grandfather before he has any children. If he died childless, goes the argument, how could he have had grandchildren, let alone be murdered by one of them?
Some philosophers have questioned the validity of this argument, saying that it proves only that a person cannot go into the past and kill their grandfather, or perform other self-contradictory acts. It does not prove that a person cannot go into the past and leave their grandfather alone.
But then, the argument goes, what about free will? What would prevent a person who had travelled into the past from pulling the trigger of a gun if the gun was pointing at his grandfather? Logically, something must. Probably it would be the most likely thing under the circumstances; the gun might jam, for instance.
David Deutsch of Wolfson College, Oxford has applied quantum mechanics to the analysis of the paradoxes, and believes he has made this philo-sophical discussion academic (Physical Review D, October 1991). He finds that in the quantum case, no obstacle to 'free will' ever appears. This is because in quantum cosmology there is no single history of space, forming a single space-time. All possible histories happen simultaneously - the so-called parallel universes interpretation of quantum theory.
In many situations, it does not matter whether the existence of parallel universes is taken seriously, or whether they are merely considered 'a manner of speaking'. Usually, universes have a minuscule effect on each other once they have become perceptibly different.
But some predictions of quantum theory cannot be expressed in any language other than that of 'parallel universes', says Deutsch. A case in point is the resolution of the time travel paradoxes.
The possibility of time travel depends on whether so-called closed timelike curves, or CTCs, exist. For decades, theorists have known that certain solutions of Einstein's equations of general relativity, which describe the structure of space-time, permit loops in space-time, which contain CTCs. Using these, objects can travel into their own past (see Figure 1). Such journeys do not involve a body travelling faster than the speed of light, which is forbidden by the laws of physics.
In the absence of CTCs, the quantum version of space-time can be thought of as resembling, on a large scale, a sheaf of classical space-times, which are similar to one another except that in each of them a different history occurs. The different space-times interact only on a microscopic scale, giving only indirect evidence of their existence.
But if CTCs are present, something qualitatively different happens, says Deutsch. The 'multiple histories' become interconnected. When a space-time region loops back into the past, it does not necessarily join up with the same copy of the space-time. So the parallel universes become a single entity, and it becomes possible to travel from one to another (see Figure 2).
Exactly how the universes link up depends on what interactions take place in them. In particular, it depends on what the inhabitants decide to do.
The figure shows what would happen, according to Deutsch's calculations, if someone tried to use a time machine to enact the grandfather paradox. History consists of two concurrent branches. Initially, they are identical, both containing the grandfather. In one of them, that person (not actually a grandfather in that history) is murdered by someone who emerges from the time machine. In the other history, no one emerges, and the grandfather goes on to have children and grandchildren, one of whom enters the time machine, travels to an earlier time in the other universe, and becomes a murderer.
This resolution of the grandfather paradox is quite general. Quantum mechanics always provides as many linked universes as there would be conflicting possibilities, according to classical physics.
However hard a person tries to create paradoxes by travelling in time, the linked, multi-sheeted structure of the quantum space-time sets itself up in such a way as to allow the person to do what they set out to do, yet without inconsistency.
So it is clear that time travel can occur without creating troublesome paradoxes. The important question then is: 'Is there a way of achieving time travel practically?' In other words, do CTCs really exist? Although they are not forbidden by the laws of physics, this does not mean that they either occur naturally in the Universe, or that they can be made artificially, allowing, in either case, time machines to be built. But in many attempts by theorists to formulate a quantum theory of gravity, CTCs occur in a 'space-time foam' on a sub-microscopic scale of about 10-35 metres, and reach back about 10-42 seconds into the past. No one knows how to widen them or extend the period for which they exist.
On a large scale, CTCs tend to occur near massive rotating objects, such as rotating black holes. But there are arguments about whether these CTCs are stable or whether they would disappear in the presence of a slight perturbation.
Relativity theorists are also familiar with solutions of Einstein's equations which describe 'wormholes' in space-time - that is, short connections between otherwise distant regions. Recently, Kip Thorne and his colleagues at the California Institute of Technology in Pasadena found that if a wormhole was moved in a certain way, it would cause CTCs to appear. So in principle we would be able to make a time machine if we ever find a large wormhole, or learn how to manufacture one.
One recent paper claimed (though the claim was immediately disputed) that CTCs would also be formed by the interaction of cosmic strings (Physical Review Letters, vol 66, p 1126; vol 68, p 267). Cosmic strings are hypothetical one-dimensional 'faults' in space, left over from the earliest moments of the big bang. They are extremely massive, preserving along their length conditions of high density which occurred early on in the big bang.
Oh do shut up Nathan :sleep: :finger: :tosser: ;) :rolleyes: :p :D
Nathan_200sx
16-05-2003, 14:01
To many big words in there for you paul :D:finger:
Originally posted by Nathan_200sx
somethig for you to loose sleep over tonight
Most likely something to fall asleap to tonight ....... what a load of drivle ..... Yes we could make a time machine if we knew how to make worm-hole ............ Well I theorise I could make a woman out of bread as soon as I have learnt to make Thring-gibblet machine.
Theories based on theories loosely based around a theory .................. The existance of god is as equally probable as this guys prothersising.
I wonder if that guy has ever had sex .......... or even seen another naked person other than his own mother !.
complete w4nk :rolleyes: :D :D ;)
Originally posted by Johnny
Most likely something to fall asleap to tonight ....... what a load of drivle ..... Yes we could make a time machine if we knew how to make worm-hole ............ Well I theorise I could make a woman out of bread as soon as I have learnt to make Thring-gibblet machine.
Theories based on theories loosely based around a theory .................. The existance of god is as equally probable as this guys prothersising.
I wonder if that guy has ever had sex .......... or even seen another naked person other than his own mother !.
complete w4nk :rolleyes: :D :D ;)
Johnny, you're making it sound as tho' you actually read Nathan's post????!!!! (lol) :p
Originally posted by wannabeP1chick
Johnny, you're making it sound as tho' you actually read Nathan's post????!!!! (lol) :p
Well :rolleyes: .... at the end of the day ... I am a bit of a geek ....... the only differences between me and the guy that wrote that bolox is :-
1) I have got my end away
2) I had an argument with my television and subsequently have not had one since October ...... so I havent had a daily dosage of Star-Trek for 7 months ;)
3) I have got my end away ... and with a woman :D
Nathan_200sx
16-05-2003, 14:23
Originally posted by Johnny
Most likely something to fall asleap to tonight ....... what a load of drivle ..... Yes we could make a time machine if we knew how to make worm-hole ............ Well I theorise I could make a woman out of bread as soon as I have learnt to make Thring-gibblet machine.
Theories based on theories loosely based around a theory .................. The existance of god is as equally probable as this guys prothersising.
I wonder if that guy has ever had sex .......... or even seen another naked person other than his own mother !.
complete w4nk :rolleyes: :D :D ;)
Yeah but if you stop looking you dont find anything, sometimes theories are intresting to read. this is work carried out by severle well respected quantum physisists and people trying to dispel the paradoxies surronding time travel. which we are doing already albeit in one direction and slowley ;)
Originally posted by Nathan_200sx
Yeah but if you stop looking you dont find anything, )
Oh dont get me wrong ... I am all for theories ....... my work to find the conficting noodle has been going on for many years now.
I just wish people could see that they might be wrong, seeing that their devout beliefs are as credible as the existance of god .... yet like the religous freaks, they dispel anything else that contradics them.
Actually I am jealous ..... I wish someone would pay me to figure out a theory that says whether you could travel back in time asuming 2 other theories are correct ........ so unfair:cry:
Nathan_200sx
16-05-2003, 14:47
Did you know they've started to research cold fusion again as "theories" suggest it can/has been done. even though several people in the origonal research project were laughed out of town and never taken seriousley again. I believe the usa goverment has granted funding for it's militry scientists to have a go again.
I agree that some need to loosen there grip on there ego a bit and listen but it's the same on both side's. "of course you can" verses "of course you cannot" arnt very helpfull and dont get them anywhere.
Originally posted by Johnny
Well :rolleyes: .... at the end of the day ... I am a bit of a geek ....... the only differences between me and the guy that wrote that bolox is :-
1) I have got my end away
2) I had an argument with my television and subsequently have not had one since October ...... so I havent had a daily dosage of Star-Trek for 7 months ;)
3) I have got my end away ... and with a woman :D
Johnny, I don't know how to break this to you but I'll be as gentle as I can...watching Andromeda (or whatever it's called) and Stargate doesn't class as"getting yer end away"!! :D Kinda explains why yer missing yer TV tho' ;)
Originally posted by wannabeP1chick
Johnny, I don't know how to break this to you but I'll be as gentle as I can...watching Andromeda (or whatever it's called) and Stargate doesn't class as"getting yer end away"!! :D Kinda explains why yer missing yer TV tho' ;)
hmmmmmm then perhaps YOU {dramatic pause} could tell me more about this Earth thing you call ....... kissing ????
Even my chat up lines still come from Sci-Fi :rolleyes: :p ;) :D
As previously stated, idiot here, not understanding, 1 physics lesson ever, left school at 14. :confused: :confused: :confused:
From now on, if I can't sleep I'll just think about what I would do if I was invisible. I can understand that. ;) Either that or I could just wake Andy and annoy him. ;) :D
Nathan_200sx
16-05-2003, 15:42
Originally posted by Hayley
I'll just think about what I would do if I was invisible. I can understand that.
Ohh the fun you could have like that, who else would make the women's changing rooms the 1st port of call ;)
AshT_200
16-05-2003, 15:51
Originally posted by wannabeP1chick
Johnny, you're making it sound as tho' you actually read Nathan's post????!!!! (lol) :p
I'm sure I've read that before ;)
Originally posted by Johnny
hmmmmmm then perhaps YOU {dramatic pause} could tell me more about this Earth thing you call ....... kissing ????
Even my chat up lines still come from Sci-Fi :rolleyes: :p ;) :D
Uh Oh!! I think we need a judges ruling on chat up lines from Sci-Fi??!! Very worrying indeedy. I'm taking it yer single (only playing) ;)
Originally posted by wannabeP1chick
I'm taking it yer single (only playing) ;)
Oddly enough no ... but always looking for a little extra homework ;)
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Sorry been to the pub for lunch ...... must flirt with everything
AshT_200
16-05-2003, 16:09
Originally posted by andyf
You couldn't, because you can't stop time, because time is a human way of measuring change. Time doesn't exist.
Yes you can, but 1st of all you have to stop thinking about time on it's own.
You have a spacetime continuum that is affected by many things.
What is a space time continuum?
In 1906, soon after Albert Einstein announced his special theory of relativity, his former college teacher in mathematics, Hermann Minkowski, developed a new scheme for thinking about space and time that emphasized its geometric qualities. In his famous quotation delivered at a public lecture on relativity, he announced that,
"The views of space and time which I wish to lay before you have sprung from the soil of experimental physics, and therein lies their strength. They are radical. henceforth, space by itself, and time by itself, are doomed to fade away into mere shadows, and only a kind of union of the two will preserve an independent reality."
This new reality was that space and time, as physical constructs, have to be combined into a new mathematical/physical entity called 'space-time', because the equations of relativity show that both the space and time coordinates of any event must get mixed together by the mathematics, in order to accurately describe what we see. Because space consists of 3 dimensions, and time is 1-dimensional, space-time must, therefore, be a 4-dimensional object. It is believed to be a 'continuum' because so far as we know, there are no missing points in space or instants in time, and both can be subdivided without any apparent limit in size or duration. So, physicists now routinely consider our world to be embedded in this 4-dimensional Space-Time continuum, and all events, places, moments in history, actions and so on are described in terms of their location in Space-Time.
Space-time does not evolve, it simply exists. When we examine a particular object from the stand point of its space-time representation, every particle is located along its world-line. This is a spaghetti-like line that stretches from the past to the future showing the spatial location of the particle at every instant in time. This world-line exists as a complete object which may be sliced here and there so that you can see where the particle is located in space at a particular instant. Once you determine the complete world line of a particle from the forces acting upon it, you have 'solved' for its complete history. This world-line does not change with time, but simply exists as a timeless object. Similarly, in general relativity, when you solve equations for the shape of space-time, this shape does not change in time, but exists as a complete timeless object. You can slice it here and there to examine what the geometry of space looks like at a particular instant. Examining consecutive slices in time will let you see whether, for example, the universe is expanding or not.
Imagine a trip into a black hole. This tantalizing thought has excited much creative speculation.
There are two ways to consider the issue. One is to "watch" someone or something -- say a small robot spacecraft -- fall into the black hole. The odd thing is it never seems to get there. The closer it approaches the hole's event horizon, the slower it seems to travel. But for the crew inside, there would be no warning of its impending doom.
An accretion disk might warn of an event horizon beyond, but the horizon itself would remain invisible. And for the crew, time seems to flow normally. Nevertheless, to you, the observer, the spacecraft appears to halt, seemingly forever suspended at the boundary of the black hole. The spacecraft begins to turn orange, then red, then fades imperceptibly from view. Though it is gone, you never saw where or how it disappeared.
Now brace yourself! Imagine that you are venturing into the black hole yourself. As you travel toward it you may notice nothing out of the ordinary, except an inability to steer yourself in any but one direction -- which is toward the "invisible" hole. You would never know when you had crossed the event horizon were it not for the increased gravitational tugging that draws your body longer and longer, squeezing in from the sides. You wouldn't last long, which is too bad, because theorists believe that inside a black hole, time and space are scrambled up strangely, such that even time travel, or travel to different universes via so-called "wormholes" might become possible, if (and a big IF!) you could survive the extreme gravity inside the hole.
Einstein's Theory of General Relativity predicts that though the gravitational field around a massive black hole is stronger on the large scale, it will exert weaker tidal forces than its smaller counterpart, at least outs ide the event horizon. These forces are what would stretch and squeeze you into spaghetti. So, if you insist on exploring the vicinity of a black hole and want to play it safe, pick a big one!
Some good links
http://www.research.ibm.com/quantuminfo/teleportation/
http://bbspot.com/News/2000/5/clock_rift.html
Originally posted by Johnny
...... must flirt with everything
Very flattering...how is a girly to keep her head you smooth talking devil you? :D
The answer is yes (I have tried this, and the voices in my head have comfired this to me).
The reason is, if you stopped time, then you are still moving within time? As in everything is still but you are not.
So if you can move around and everything is still you can pick up a gun and fire it.
.... however the bullit will stop the second it leaves the gun, as it is now out of your contact and so you will have to start time again to get the bullit to travel.
Hope that helps. I am off to stop time and have a look at what underwear the new girl in accounts is wearing.
Originally posted by wannabeP1chick
Very flattering...how is a girly to keep her head you smooth talking devil you? :D
Hey I didnt want to make it too personal .. there are others on this board listening.
If you want to go somewhere a bit more personal, we could chat on www.williamshatnerismygod.com :D :D :D
Originally posted by WILDCARD
The answer is yes (I have tried this, and the voices in my head have comfired this to me).
The reason is, if you stopped time, then you are still moving within time? As in everything is still but you are not.
So if you can move around and everything is still you can pick up a gun and fire it.
.... however the bullit will stop the second it leaves the gun, as it is now out of your contact and so you will have to start time again to get the bullit to travel.
Hope that helps. I am off to stop time and have a look at what underwear the new girl in accounts is wearing.
Thanks. That makes sense to me. :D
Originally posted by Johnny
Hey I didnt want to make it too personal .. there are others on this board listening.
If you want to go somewhere a bit more personal, we could chat on www.williamshatnerismygod.com :D :D :D
PMSL :D
Originally posted by WILDCARD
.... however the bullit will stop the second it leaves the gun, .
However the gasses pushing the bullit will still be expanding at the speed of sound, having nowhere to go due to a stationary bullit blocking its path, it will back up blow the other end of the gun up and take your hand with it.
Ash,
Its nice to see that so many people still use a 100 year old theory, to base modern day thinking on ........ no wonder it is taking us so long to discover stuff ;)
Can you add diminsions together like Einstien did though ??
3 dimentions of space + 1 dimention of time = 4d space time continuum
Kind of makes sence
However if it turns out that infact time works across the 3 dimentions the equation would be
3 dimentions of space x 1 dimention of time = 3dspace time continuum
Which would explain why no one has yet come into contact with any time travellers ... and people have been barking up the wrong tree for so long
:sleep: :sleep:
AshT_200
16-05-2003, 16:44
Originally posted by Johnny
Ash,
Its nice to see that so many people still use a 100 year old theory, to base modern day thinking on ........ no wonder it is taking us so long to discover stuff ;)
As Mycroft would say......
No I used the 100 year old theory to make it simpler for you all to understand;)
I am already completely au fait with Quantum Gravity:notworthy
And the Space Time Continuum has 10 dimensions if you believe M Theory :p
But on another note.
If you stopped time, how would you know whether you fired the gun or not.
You may have
You may not have
You may never
And johnny,
If the gun blows your hand off. Would you notice it ;)
Originally posted by AshT_200
If the gun blows your hand off. Would you notice it ;)
Not initially ... but the instance you went to turn time back on with that hand, it would cease to exist, so how could you have turned time back on .... oh the paradoxes.
On a more serious note ......... haveing read your post, stopping time, I now agree, is possible ... Mycroft did it on several occasions with his inane talking bolox :D :D
AshT_200
16-05-2003, 17:00
Originally posted by Johnny
On a more serious note ......... haveing read your post, stopping time, I now agree, is possible ... Mycroft did it on several occasions with his inane talking bolox :D :D
Touché
i've totally lsot the plot on this one...
too many theories
too many words...
i need a drink
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