Nistune

[Jez]

As most people know we've been remapping Nissan ECUs for over 8 years now. We've developed our own hardware, software and tools to allow us to produce off the shelf ECU upgrades (the stage 1, 1a, 2, 2a, 3 and 3a chips) and to carry out custom remaps for non-standard engine setups (our best power output was on my CA powered S13 at 483whp, standard ECU, 950cc injectors and Z32 AFM)

We now have the equipment to map ECUs that have the Nistune boards fitted. This will be at our standard rate of £299.99 inc VAT. We carry this out on the road usually, but can do the work on the rolling road if required.

We can also supply and fit the Nistune boards (contact us for details on this) if required.

Nistune works in exactly the same way as our custom remaps, except the software to make changes and carry out logging is available to end users. See www.nistune.com for more details.

Any questions, just ask :)

[Eddie_s13]

anything for rb25 yet mate?

[Jez]

No, not yet - those ECUs are a pain to remap

[Aj82]

Hi jez, this might be a good idea for me with my rebuild. How much are the Nistunes themselves?


Cheers Aj

[Jez]

S14 boards are £144.99
S14a/S15 boards are £159.99
Fitting is £39.99
Mapping is £299.99

[Aj82]

Would you advise one of these rather than keeping the standard one to be mapped?


Cheers Aj

[Jez]

Its up to you really. Nistune is more expensive but allows you to remap the car yourself. You would have to buy the mapping software and a consult lead.

[marko14a]

So for a fitted and mapped nistune you are looking at £500 ready to go.

As opposed to what £700-800 for a power fc with the mapping on top?

[Jez]

Yes.

Or £374.99 for one of our custom ECU remaps, all in (ECU upgrade, fitting and custom mapping).

[fritzkrackers]

is it possible to post an ecu to you for fitting, then it posted back? also, how much is the consult cable and mapping software?

thanks. :thumbs:

[Jez]

Yes :)
Consult cable is £49.99, software licence is £149.99

[fordy]

is there any chance you will be offering these with a stage map? i might be interested in the future if this is possible :)

[Silane]

Fordy, you have PM :)

[Jez]

is there any chance you will be offering these with a stage map? i might be interested in the future if this is possible :)

No, we won't be offering that - only custom maps with the Nistune interface

You basically have these options:
1) An off the shelf ECU upgrade - great value if you have the required mods - from £174.99 + fitting
2) An H-Dev custom map - we can map for any turbo / injector / std/Z32 AFM - £349.99 + fitting
3) A Nistune custom map - exactly the same as an H-Dev custom map but its easier if you want to modify the map yourself - £444.98 + fitting (+ £149.99 for the Nistune software if you need it. You'll also need a consult cable - £49.99)

[scimmy ben]

Jez - just got the email newsletter and prompted the following question...

Are you doing Nistune for S12s CA18ET?

[Jez]

Yes, they are supported although I've never done one :)

[Aj82]

Hi Jez, someone said that the nistune has the capability of running a map sensor and doing away with maf sensor. Is that possible? Im seriously considering getting one of these from you and dont want to go and get a Z32 if i dont need to.


Cheers Aj

[fry]

anything for rb25 yet mate?

I thought you could use the z32 ecu with nistune on the rb with a bit of rewiring

[Jez]

I thought you could use the z32 ecu with nistune on the rb with a bit of rewiring

Apparently you can - I've never tried it though :)

[Aj82]

Hi Jez, someone said that the nistune has the capability of running a map sensor and doing away with maf sensor. Is that possible? Im seriously considering getting one of these from you and dont want to go and get a Z32 if i dont need to.


Cheers Aj


Do you about this Jez?


Cheers Aj

[Jez]

As Nistune is just a device that allows you to remap the standard ECU, you will need an AFM.

It doesn't support MAP sensors

[Aj82]

Thats what i thought, but someone on here said that it could be used to run a map sensor instead of maf?
How far can the Z32 go? I dont want to get one and then find its of no use to me.

Cheers Aj

[Jez]

Z32 AFM will do up to around 550bhp.

[Aj82]

Hmmm ok, thanks for the help jez!


Cheers Aj

[DeJi]

I'm looking to purchase one of these to replace my E-Manage ultimate. Is this what I'm looking at, pricewise, when I'm tuning it myself?
£444.98 - Nistune board
£149.99 - Software
£49.99 - Consult cable
How much would it cost to ship to Sweden?

I have 555cc injectors, Z32 AFM and a GT2871R.
Can you make a basemap for it with those mods, or would it work anyway? Can you change AFM / Injectors etc in drop-down lists like with the E-Manage?

[Jez]

Sorry for the delay - just replied to your other thread :)

[mikeyb010180]

for my tuner to tune my car wat would he need all in ?

[Jez]

He'd need a board, software, consult lead and usual mapping equipment.

[mikeyb010180]

so how much for all the bits u sell for an s14a as far as im aware he has the wideband lamda and all the other bits on his rolling road i brought myself a new laptop so guess where the old ones going lol

[mikeyb010180]

il prob drive car to the garage then send my ecu upto u for the new board to be installed failing that i was wondering if i got a second ecu from an s14a could i send that then swap them over or will i get problems with nissan having to sync it with my car ?

[Jez]

Heres some prices:
Nistune S14a board - £154.99
Fitting - £34.99
Consult lead - £49.99
Nistune software - £149.99
Postage - £9.99

You can swap S14a ECUs, but as you say you will have to re-sync it with the car. We can supply software to do this, its £49.99

[mikeyb010180]

£400 notes not too bad tbh considering the price of a bloody power fc at the moment lol il prob order this very soon just wondering though wat exactly does the garge need he maps emerald systems i checked today he has rollers and a widband lamda is there much more he needs ?

[Jez]

He shouldn't need much else :)

[mikeyb010180]

sweet il ring him tomorrow wat im gonna do is take it there then send the ecu off 24hr delivery for the nistune board and fitting and pay for all the other bits but for all of it to be deliver too my tuners garage to save all the hassle of getting it towed or transported to the garage etc lol i hope that makes sense lol

[Nicky]

Any chance of a few screenshots of the Nistune software on the go Jez?

Could well be tempted to stick the Power FC for sale on here for £400 or so and go for 1 of these...

Also, if i was to buy 3 at once, could some kind of deal be worked out, as myself and the brother have an S14a each and i have a 14 track slag in need of some kind of management ASAP.

Cheers

Nicky

[Jez]

Heres some screen shots:
http://www.nistune.com/pics/scn1.jpg

http://www.nistune.com/pics/scn3.jpg

I maybe able to do some sort of discount - email me if you're interested :)

[japdrifter]

right so s14a....159.99 for the daughter board 39.99 to fit and 299.99 to map it

anything else will be needed at all?? and then once i get some new toys put on it, a further 299.99 again will do another remap yeah??

[japdrifter]

oh and for the record i dont have any fobs or anything just a key??? wats all this re-sync malarky

[Jez]

right so s14a....159.99 for the daughter board 39.99 to fit and 299.99 to map it

anything else will be needed at all?? and then once i get some new toys put on it, a further 299.99 again will do another remap yeah??

No, thats it :)
If you want a remap in the future it'll be £199.99 so long as you stick with the same injectors and AFM.

[Jez]

oh and for the record i dont have any fobs or anything just a key??? wats all this re-sync malarky

You dont need to worry about NATS so long as we fit the Nistune to the ECU from your car and not a different one :)

[japdrifter]

ok well thats a weight off my shoulders...had me worried...thanks bud

[Jez]

:thumbs:

[fordy]

jez is there any chance of a exchange deal for a stage 2 chip for a nistune board and software?

[Jez]

No, sorry.

[Hesky]

Hi Jez, just a quick couple of questions.

-The consult cable I purchased from you a year or two back, will it work with Nistune?
I understand it still uses the consult interface but I'm lead to believe transfer data rates are increase to facilitate more precise logging, etc with Nistune.

-How feasible would it be to switch to Nistune on an S14a ECU which is already running a generic remap such as your stage 1, 1a, 2, 2a, etc... chips?

Cheers :)

[Jez]

Pretty much any consult lead will work with Nistune, so you'll be fine :)

You'd have to remove the ECU upgrade, install the Nistune board and then get it mapped.

[Scottie]

Jez I have been running the S14a Stage 3a solution for 18 months now which is excellent.

As of last night I now have my new engine installed and running.

I need to come down and see you for a custom map, but wondering what the benefits are of switching from the Hdev solution to the Nistune one.

Apart from the two obvious points, Nistune costs more, but allows more people to map it should you retire/disappear under a bus etc, are there any technical reasons why I should prefer one over other?

Engine, fully forged, 555's, 2871, Z32 AFM.

:)

[Crazykidd]

a simple ? for you jezz if i come down with the car nistune etc installed and my laptop will you aswell as do the mapping also give a little insight into whats actually being done so i can further tweak as i change mods setup etc ?

[Joematose]

since we're all asking questions ,


I have your stage 3a ( well 3b for the 740's ) at the moment.
Did that entail any hard modifications to the ecu ?
when i crack open the box to fit the nistune daughterboard, is there anything to be undone from your setup to allow the new on ?

Also, is it possible to move my current map over to nistune as a starting point ?

Thanks,
Joe.

[Jez]

I need to come down and see you for a custom map, but wondering what the benefits are of switching from the Hdev solution to the Nistune one.

Apart from the two obvious points, Nistune costs more, but allows more people to map it should you retire/disappear under a bus etc, are there any technical reasons why I should prefer one over other?

Other than the points you've mentioned, there'd be no difference at all :)

[Jez]

a simple ? for you jezz if i come down with the car nistune etc installed and my laptop will you aswell as do the mapping also give a little insight into whats actually being done so i can further tweak as i change mods setup etc ?

Not really I'm afraid - I'd be able to give you some pointers while I map the car - but if you're starting from no knowledge it'll be quite difficult to teach you anything that will be useful and not dangerous.

[Jez]

Did that entail any hard modifications to the ecu ?
when i crack open the box to fit the nistune daughterboard, is there anything to be undone from your setup to allow the new on ?

Also, is it possible to move my current map over to nistune as a starting point ?

There will be our ECU upgrade fitted to your ECU - if you wanted to go with Nistune you'd have to remove our board and fit the Nistune board.

You'd be best off starting with the standard maps, changing for bigger injectors and different AFM and then remapping from there.

[Hesky]

Hi Jez, thanks for answering the above questions, a few guys had some interesting Q's to :)

[erykkrwawy]

hi Jez.I've been looking for a d-jero pfc to make a full use of the setup of my engine but also read this thread and there is my question is thjere a reason why you wouldnt sqeeze the same or close to what pfc would do power/torque output using nistune (mapped by You) or should i stck to the plan of getting pfc? mods of my engine:
fully forged engine
sard 850 inj. and adj. fpr
260 in and ex cams (to come)
gt2871r (possibly a hks hibryd, bit stronger.i was told)
tubular mani
3 inch exhaust turbo-back
fmic
z32 (maf if needed)
etc
goal is top end 300bhp- 400bhp if the turbo is as good as i was told.
thank you

[Hesky]

For that sort of target power I would say a Z32 MAF is definitely needed.
As far as which management is concerned both the Power FC and Nistune setups are both extremely capable, but the Nistune is so much cheaper to implement.
Within the Nistune software changin the map for larger injectors takes all of 15 seconds & 4 clicks! and changin MAF's is easy with a list of 20+ MAF's, everything from Ford/GM MAF's, to RB20's and the popular Z32 MAF's.
The Nistune software is defiantly well thought out and support is great even though its fairly new comparatively.

[Jez]

You won't make any more power on either engine management option.

Here are the main features of each products:
Power FC D-Jetro - It MAP sensor based, so you won't be limited to 550bhp by an AFM system. If you have a top mount turbo you won't have any issues associated with air flow pulses through the AFM (because there won't be one). Mapping can be done by most Power FC mappers with the right tools. If you want to map it yourself you'll need to buy an FC Datalogit system. You also have the commander where you can view settings. Power FCs cost £600-900 depending on where you buy, inc additional sensors. Fitting costs around £100, mapping is £349.99

Nistune - Limited to 550bhp by Z32 AFM. Have to have smooth air flow through AFM for it to work properly. If you want to map it yourself you'll need a consult lead and Nistune software. Nistune board is £184.99, fitting is £34.99, mapping is £299.99 - if you want a consult lead and mapping software its £199.98

H-Dev custom remap - Same as Nistune, except you can't buy the software to map it yourself. ECU board and mapping is £349.99, fitting is £24.99.

[erykkrwawy]

You won't make any more power on either engine management option.

Here are the main features of each products:
Power FC D-Jetro - It MAP sensor based, so you won't be limited to 550bhp by an AFM system. If you have a top mount turbo you won't have any issues associated with air flow pulses through the AFM (because there won't be one). Mapping can be done by most Power FC mappers with the right tools. If you want to map it yourself you'll need to buy an FC Datalogit system. You also have the commander where you can view settings. Power FCs cost £600-900 depending on where you buy, inc additional sensors. Fitting costs around £100, mapping is £349.99

Nistune - Limited to 550bhp by Z32 AFM. Have to have smooth air flow through AFM for it to work properly. If you want to map it yourself you'll need a consult lead and Nistune software. Nistune board is £184.99, fitting is £34.99, mapping is £299.99 - if you want a consult lead and mapping software its £199.98

H-Dev custom remap - Same as Nistune, except you can't buy the software to map it yourself. ECU board and mapping is £349.99, fitting is £24.99.

thanks for the answer. so reasuming full ecu remap to the spec of my car would be

about £375 and i obvouslely must have a maf..is there a particular reason to spend extra money on pfc power out put wise for my setup than and pay another £500 on top of that??

[Jez]

The PFC gives you the commander, which can be handy - especially the knock read out. Although we always recommend getting a Phormula KS-3 to monitor: http://www.h-dev.co.uk/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=phormula

You lose the immobilser with the PFC

If it were me, I'd go for our ECU remap if you just want us to sort it, Nistune if you're going to adjust the map yourself or a Solaris if you want a motorsport grade ECU.

See here: http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=431324 for some more info

[Hesky]

I always thought VEMS was a good option for us 200 guys as you can get pnp harnesses to suit s14/a which makes life a lot easier.
There pretty much full on stand alone at half the price. The v3.3 genboard has knock, egt input and a built-in wideband controller, so no expensive controllers are needed. Like the FC D-Jetro it has MAP input so you can do away with expensive high flow mafs.

I really dont know why the VEMs setup isnt used more often as its as easy to implement as the Power PC setup but would work out so much cheaper if you want inputs like knock detection and wideband etc... and arguably its much more flexible.

[Jez]

Theres no UK support for VEMS and it's a right ball ache to map due to very unfriendly software. We were going to support it, but don't any more.

[mikeyb010180]

i remember from ages ago the vems screens looked really similar to the megasquirt stuff suprised no one supports it

[Hesky]

Yup, VEMS is MS based so it uses the same MegaTune software, thats why it looks the same.
I always thought the MegaTune software was pretty well developed and quite user friendly.
I guess if you don't get on with MegaTune's user interface you could use TunerStudio with VEMS instead, its supposed to be simpler and more robust to tune efi engines than the MegaTune software.

[gunnar]

Just to clarify.

VEMS is not MS based other then the people originally involved in the original AVR project are the same.
They then split up and went their own ways.

VEMS now has it´s own fully functional software that is easy to use. And there is UK support.