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Been doing some research into Postgraduate Masters courses for next year...its going cost me £3,000! How the fcuk do I find that sort of money?? What happened to the government's support of education - no, it seems higher education is limited to those who can afford it. :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :(
The governments support for education is a complete con. As is their support for the NHS, fighting crime, stopping the flow of illegal immigrants etc, etc, etc.:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
As for how you can fund it get yourself sponsored by a company if you can. Failing that you're looking at a loan (great way to start your working life by getting yourself in debt, thanks Tony :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: ).
Or you could of course take a part time job as a rent-boy :D
Originally posted by JB
Or you could of course take a part time job as a rent-boy :D
Could you afford the pay cut of going part time Ant? ;) :D
Ya buggers! :p :p :D
I'm going be looking for a part-time job as soon as exams are over anyway cos if I don't the 2***** would have to go! :( Either way, as of next week (after all my work is in...Yay), I'm going be filling graduate application forms - anyother other people who graduate (hopefully) on here, you need to visit this site...
www.prospects.ac.uk
There is a big list of companies recruiting. :)
Originally posted by Jeff
Could you afford the pay cut of going part time Ant? ;) :D
LMFAO :D :D :D :D :D :D :D Just spat out my coffee as a result of that comment, me computer screens covered in it now :D :D :D
Seriously Ant there's still plenty of time mate, I wouldn't go panicking just yet :)
Check the Uni, they normally have grants available for post-grad courses...but apply early though.
I worked for a year to save money to pay for my course, applied for a grant and got it...so I had my fee money to blow on booze and a playstation (they cost £400 quid then :eek: )...
Originally posted by Phil L
Check the Uni, they normally have grants available for post-grad courses...but apply early though.
I worked for a year to save money to pay for my course, applied for a grant and got it...so I had my fee money to blow on booze and a playstation (they cost £400 quid then :eek: )...
I mailed the uni regarding fees and they said I would have to pay the full amount...but they've advised me contact the finance dept. so I will be doing that later. :)
Jezz_S13
02-05-2003, 12:32
Get a job you skiving git. :)
What would you do a masters in?
Comp Sci is all you need surely.
I'm looking at doing a Masters in Strategic IT/E-Business. My degree I'm doing now is Business Information Technology so its a blend of both computery stuff and businessy stuff. I'm still only considering it, no definates. Will see how the job junting goes on when all my work is in next week - some application forms take nearly a day! :eek:
Grants are separate from the Uni (kind of). They come from research/government type companies and a certain amount are available to students on certain courses.
If successful, the company pays the fees and some extra goes into your pocket but you can only find about about them from the Uni. You need to contact the administration peeps of the department you want to study in.
They were worth a whopping £5k before...probably a lot less now, if at all.
Have to take the side here and get flamed for it :)
Rant on:
Ultimatly, that qualification will earn you a lot of money. I would argue that it's your investment in your future and that why should the average taxpayer help to make you wealthy in later life? Low interest student loans are just fine in my eye, so long as they are readily available and easily and fairly arranged. This is what the government needs to resolve.
Making the whole system free and open will ultimatly mean less people activly working, lower GNP, and more overqualified people refusing to do 'menial' work and thus remaining unemployed.
I really am sick of higher education recently becoming something that 'everyone' does. I do approve of vocational degrees (IT, MBA, medical, whatever job you intend doing qualification), but recently it seems that going on to higher education is a great way to avoid 'the real world' for a few years at the taxpayer's expense. The government wants 50% of the public in higher education. Why? Frankly we still need people to work the tills at sainsburys and take the rubbish out... 50% of the population do not _NEED_ higher education. Heck, I work in the high-end of a technical spectrum and only about 20% of the people here have a formal qualification and except for the one Phd, you wouldn't be able to tell who had and who hadn't got a qualification.
Everyone at uni know it's done, everyone at college knows the score. Oh.. staying on to study Sociology, Psycology and General Studies? Hmmm. Didn't fancy a job?
It really sickens me how so many people treat it as a holiday at frankly _my_ expense. Higher education should be in persuit of a higher goal, not a way of staving off resonsibility. People who are serious about their qualifications will ultimatly benifit in the long run from it - it's only those who are abusing their 'rights' who are draining the coffers for the others.
rant off.
From what you say, you have a definate goal in mind, but unfortunatly, most of the students where you are probably do not. They're the reason that things are perhaps not as easy as they should be as regards funding.
Absolutely.
The government's idea of expanding university places by making the old Polys into Unis is ridiculous. You get more and more people at Uni, which de-values their qualifications, and therefore they aren't any better off than they would have been. When I started Uni 6 years ago, even then you were starting to see the signs of this - needing at least an MSc to get a decnet job!
Secondly, the country still needs people who have marketable skills rather than pure education. That's why plumbers make such a killing at the moment. The government seemed to be going down the line (at one stage) of making the idea of manual work (and training for manual work) unacceptable. The country would grind to a halt if we all turned into management consultants and IT trouble-shooters - we still need people to run shops, public services, to build houses - and the government should stop acting like they're ashamed of this type of job and life.
Whatever happened to the idea of apprenticships? You learn a trade, you learn marketable skills, you develop the ability to earn a good wage through working. The fact that it's with your hands and not at a computer terminal makes it more valuable, IMO, not less.
I completely see what you are saying, and, like you, I completely disagree with the government's aim to get 50% of the population involved with a higher education - there are far more practical ways of giving people skills they need/want in a job (apprenticeships for school leavers etc).
On a personal level, I do have a goal and direction in my career and education - I knew I wanted do IT from my days at college, and from then on knew that I would like to do a post graduate course sometime after my degree - its just choosing when to do one.
Thats small fry mate. I left university £35,000 in debt.:(
Originally posted by braz
Thats small fry mate. I left university £35,000 in debt.:(
Blimey! :eek: How come?
Originally posted by Ant
Blimey! :eek: How come?
Medical degree and Bsc came to six and a bit years, living in central London and living it large. Thats despite working part time at hamleys, getting an LEA and trust fund money. I think I pissed it all into Londons sewers. it was a laugh though.
Anyway I know 3K is a lot of cash but it maybe worth it in the long run especially if you get a job which you like what you are doing and is well paid.
PS I feckin hate Labour- ****ers.:mad:
Martin T
03-05-2003, 12:23
Originally posted by Tombs
Absolutely.
The government's idea of expanding university places by making the old Polys into Unis is ridiculous. You get more and more people at Uni, which de-values their qualifications, and therefore they aren't any better off than they would have been. When I started Uni 6 years ago, even then you were starting to see the signs of this - needing at least an MSc to get a decnet job!
Secondly, the country still needs people who have marketable skills rather than pure education. That's why plumbers make such a killing at the moment. The government seemed to be going down the line (at one stage) of making the idea of manual work (and training for manual work) unacceptable. The country would grind to a halt if we all turned into management consultants and IT trouble-shooters - we still need people to run shops, public services, to build houses - and the government should stop acting like they're ashamed of this type of job and life.
Whatever happened to the idea of apprenticships? You learn a trade, you learn marketable skills, you develop the ability to earn a good wage through working. The fact that it's with your hands and not at a computer terminal makes it more valuable, IMO, not less.
Sooooo true.
I think Labour hates tradesmen because they cant easily get a bunch of statistics from them. I think that Tony Blair thinks that anyone without a degree is scum. I wonder who he thinks built No.10, and did the plumbing, electrics, made the roads outside, etc. W A N K E R!
Further education should not be equated with heightened intelligence, it simply allows one to bullshit more plausibly
:D
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