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Ninja
07-02-2009, 18:10
Today marked the start of Project Oni Kudaki 2.0 :D:D
I have been planning this project ever since I sold off all the parts from the previous 1UZFE S14 project and purchased a 2004 Mazda RX8 import, a great looking and handling car, just underpowered.
There have been a few turbo`d and supercharged 8`s appearing now but I didn`t want to go down that route, I wanted something with a bit more power:whip:
So today I went down to RE:Worx and picked up the main component for my project :thumbs:

http://www.sxoc.co.uk/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=59787&stc=1&d=1234029377

http://www.sxoc.co.uk/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=59788&stc=1&d=1234029456

Yep I am putting a triple rotor 20b in the 8:D:D
This project will move along slowly as I still need to get my garage/workshop built but I will get there!:whip:
The plan is to run it with a GT42RS turbo and make around 400@the wheels to begin with as there are differing opinions as how much power the 8`s box can handle but 400 seems to be ok.
A huge thanks to Geoff at RE:Worx for doing me a good deal on the engine, top bloke:thumbs: It`s actually the one out of thier RX8 drag car that ran a 9.1 quarter last year:Plug:

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Parker
07-02-2009, 18:22
This project will move along slowly

You surprise me :D

Ninja
07-02-2009, 18:49
You surprise me :D

:whip: I don`t know what you mean:confused:

JC
07-02-2009, 19:12
Si is gonna get wood when he see's this! :D

Good work Mark,will be keeping an eye on this thread for updates :thumbs:

Amxen
07-02-2009, 20:42
interesting :eek: heres a little teaser of something my brothere is working on . this is now in the car being tuned

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c135/amxen/SL370039.jpg

Ninja
07-02-2009, 21:00
P-port turbo! nice:thumbs:

Amxen
07-02-2009, 21:05
lol its a bridge port dude :thumbs: hes gonna be running E85 and no intercooler as well. gonna make 400hp on motor alone :eek: they have no idea what it will go with the turbo but they are aiming for 700 to start with

Ninja
07-02-2009, 21:18
That looks like a peripheral port to me:confused:
inlets welded into the rotor housings?
definitely interested in updates on that machine:thumbs:

Amxen
07-02-2009, 21:27
edit lol you are rite its a peripheral my bad

.He said something about only 2 or 3 in the UK dont know if thats true but here is a photo of it in the car .

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c135/amxen/Photo-0194.jpg

Rich_M
07-02-2009, 23:04
Looks mad.
When i come to sell my 14a an rx7 will be top of the list for replacements, rotory heaven!
Good luck to both cars in this thread :sxoc:

Rich

BreadBin
08-02-2009, 00:54
Aaah flee lootaa!
:D

Ninja
08-02-2009, 15:41
One very handy thing about putting this engine in is that I will only have to pass pre cat emissions as it is from a 91 car:thumbs:

DREAD13
08-02-2009, 20:48
hmmmm! watching this:thumbs:

Cloudy
09-02-2009, 10:58
Mark you nutter:wack:

Can I borrow the rex as my car is off the road:D

Ninja
09-02-2009, 13:17
Mark you nutter:wack:

Can I borrow the rex as my car is off the road:D

what the FD?
sure, you would need to buy 2 new tires though and if you break the engine you can pay for a rebuild:wack:

Cloudy
09-02-2009, 13:43
what the FD?
sure, you would need to buy 2 new tires though and if you break the engine you can pay for a rebuild:wack:

Yeah, deal :D

Ninja
17-02-2009, 19:48
mini update:
I got the 20b in to the garage and on to the engine stand and had a poke around it to see what bits I need for it, it has an FD front cover on it so all the pulleys, crank angle sensors and waterpump need to be FD items which makes life a bit easier as 20b bits are hard to get hold of ( less than 4000 20b`s were ever made:eek:)
So currently I am trying to source all the bits I need for the conversion, I already have a twin plate carbon clutch that came with the engine, the main issue at the moment is an ecu to run in, I have a lead on a microtech cheapy cheap but need to wait for it to be available, it will eventualy run a Solaris ecu but at the moment there is no rotary support.
I have a 4 stage plan worked out:

Stage 1 : get the engine in and running n/a (should make about the same power as the rensis but with more torque:thumbs:)

Stage 2: Get the RX8 ECU happy again,ABS, stability control etc working

Stage 3: TURBO!!!! :D GT42rs limiting to 400 bhp ish to try to save the stock drivetrain from being destroyed:wack:

Stage 4: Upgrade the drivetrain and up the boost:whip: I am hoping for around 500bhp @ the wheels

Matty2Fatty
17-02-2009, 22:39
Oooooh this sounds interesting :D I need to keep and eye on this :nod:

Ninja
25-02-2009, 19:43
Update

I recieved a few parts today, firstly a pair of n/a 13b headers so I can fab up a temporary n/a exhaust

http://www.sxoc.co.uk/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=60230&tc=1&d=1235590467
http://www.sxoc.co.uk/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=60231&stc=1&d=1235590552

also an FD aircon/power steering bracket

http://www.sxoc.co.uk/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=60232&stc=1&d=1235590714

and a renesis excentric shaft postition sensor trigger wheel

http://www.sxoc.co.uk/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=60233&stc=1&d=1235590876

you gotta love how much of the rotary parts are interchangable:D:D

Quail
27-03-2009, 19:21
20B :smitten:

Darkside7
27-03-2009, 19:33
Carl @ Hayward Rotary has a na 20b in his drag rx6??? can't rem which rx it is but its nuts!
Good project dude. can't wait to see the finished article

docwra
27-03-2009, 21:20
This will be mental. Rather like the owner in fact. :thumbs:

Strong work Ninja, strong work :D

Si
27-03-2009, 23:13
How the ****etybollocks did I miss this?!?! Reason for this section number 1 :thumbs:

Awesome stuff dude.

I've been readin up about the '8 boxes quite a lot and they seem to hold up well - IIRC Chris Impey's running one I think, and that seems to cope with a 9s T51r KAI car :D

What management are you going for? And what ignition? Standard 20b inlets? So many questions, most prominent being: Can I have it please? ta.

Ninja
12-04-2009, 20:55
Management wise, I`m hoping to use Solaris but we need to get the split ignition sorted, the engine is standard but strong(ran a 9.1 quarter in RE:Worx`s drag car) not sure on ignition yet either, depends on what ecu I use really.
Finally got boost control sorted on my FD today so it`s now running just over a bar of boost with a TO4R and is pretty rapid:thumbs:

Algie
12-04-2009, 21:03
Dude,

Please,

For the love of God finish this one, it looks bloody awesome :notworthy

Can't wait to see the finished result (although I'll probably be driving to the Chessie meet in my hover car by the time it's finished :p )

JC
12-04-2009, 21:08
(although I'll probably be driving to the Chessie meet in my hover car by the time it's finished :p )
What? Are you buying Parker's S13 then Alg'? hehe :D

Keep up the good work Ninja mark :thumbs:

Ninja
27-04-2009, 18:26
Project currently on hold as my FD chipped an apex seal and I need to get that sorted first:(
But some good news is that Solaris can now support rotaries so that`s the ECU sorted:thumbs:

Cloudy
28-04-2009, 09:41
The only reason its on hold is because I've bet you £50 and Debs that you won't get the FD back up and running by the end of the year:p

gander
29-04-2009, 13:23
nice project. if you dont mind me asking. how much was that engine? im thinking of something similar.

this will sound so nice

Ninja
11-05-2009, 13:53
nice project. if you dont mind me asking. how much was that engine? im thinking of something similar.

this will sound so nice

I paid £3k for mine but it is a good strong engine that has been rebuilt and came with a carbon twin plate clutch:thumbs:
Give Tim at RX motors a call I know they usually have a couple of 20b`s knocking about:thumbs:

Si
11-05-2009, 14:00
I paid £3k for mine but it is a good strong engine that has been rebuilt and came with a carbon twin plate clutch:thumbs:
Give Tim at RX motors a call I know they usually have a couple of 20b`s knocking about:thumbs:

:eek: That's not bad at all!
/dirty thoughts :wack:

Ninja
12-05-2009, 13:18
pain in the ass to fit in a FD, that`s why mine is going in the 8, more bonnet clearance:thumbs:

Si
12-05-2009, 13:22
Yeah, I was looking at Matt's in WGT the other month. A lot better when used with the RX8 box though - shorter box makes up for longer engine it seems :)

JP
01-06-2010, 20:45
Subscribed! :thumbs:

Algie
01-06-2010, 20:47
Well now you've got a proper incentive to get it done mate, forget the FD and concentrate on this one :thumbs:

Ninja
02-06-2010, 13:24
Still waiting on ecu support, I`m not gonna start until I have an ecu:whip:

Cloudy
02-06-2010, 13:33
Surely Charlie can help you on that one...

Just remembered you rang me on Sunday... working on Dan's car at the time :smash:

Ninja
02-06-2010, 13:39
lol thats the idea but it`s taking ages to get the software guy to do it:rolleyes:
I was just calling for a chat, I take it Dan told you about the incident?

Cloudy
02-06-2010, 13:42
Beat the software guy with a large stick:whip:

Sorry didn't see the phone until later, yeah he did. PM on way.