saturday coldness anyone? [Archive]

richy200

10-01-2009, 09:33

hi all, my clutch and flyheel has arrived and i need to get it back on the car. i was wondering if any of you weren't doing anything and fancied getting cold for a few hours? :P

the gearbox is such a pig of a job todo. would really appreciete any help. it would be around 2 pm ish.

if any of you fancy popping over here is my addy

53 solve road, clase, sa67nu and mobi no - 07737918362

also, i dont suppose anyone has a dummy input shaft/ clutch alignmemt tool i could borrow? or where i can buy a decent one from 2day?

pdh 14a

10-01-2009, 13:42

Hi Richy,sorry mate! my missus has had a day of stuff planned for me today!:(
If you need a quick half hour to literally chuck the box in place then give me a bell and i'll pop up quickly! 07970734791.
But i don't have an alignment tool! :thumbs:

VIDAL BABBOON

10-01-2009, 18:35

If you had posed that up last night i could have poped over :(

I also have the dummy shaft Jez lent me in the garage.....

Hope it went well though :nod:

JIMS14

10-01-2009, 20:25

Richy managed to get a Clutch alignment tool of a ver helpful chapfrom within this very Welsh section. ;)

Jezz_S13

10-01-2009, 20:30

I also have the dummy shaft Jez lent me in the garage.....

Hey that's not a dummy shaft, it's the finest input shaft from an S13 box.
Forgot you had it though. :o

VIDAL BABBOON

11-01-2009, 11:02

Hey that's not a dummy shaft, it's the finest input shaft from an S13 box.
Forgot you had it though. :o

So did i until this post :wack:

It's all safe in my bits box up the garage attic lol

richy200

11-01-2009, 20:21

Thanks jim for the alignment tool dude much apprecieated :)

richy200

11-01-2009, 20:21

hey thanks to phoenix managed to get the clutch in and box on relativly quickly. Started the car up and i couldn't get the car into gear and the clutch pedal feels like piss even after bleeding it for ages. It would go into gear fine when the engine was off.

After speaking to buffy and the guy i bought the clutch off i was guessing that the release bearing carrier wasn't long enough so as a temporary fix, phoenix welded a nut onto the slave cylinder rod and hey presto the clutch will engage all gears when the enginge ir running and thecar drives fine

with one exception

the clutch slips as soon as you go over 0.3 of a bar of boost what ever gear your in. Even if i drive the car slowly if slips like a bitch the faster you go.

now i have started to hear a noise coming from the gearbox, as if 2 pieces of metal are hitting each other for a second like (ting ting) usually when i go over bumps or change gear.

any ideas guys?

JIMS14

11-01-2009, 20:28

FUBAR. If you like I can pop over one night this week and we can have a look. have you got the box back out yet?

VIDAL BABBOON

11-01-2009, 22:40

Its probably going to be related to the the release bearing/carrier.

I would get the bearing and carrier sorted before making any diagnosis of the box.

That should sort your slipping issue out too.

JIMS14

11-01-2009, 22:43

He's coming over tommorow so I can have a look. Bloody datsuns!

richy200

11-01-2009, 23:12

Its probably going to be related to the the release bearing/carrier.

I would get the bearing and carrier sorted before making any diagnosis of the box.

That should sort your slipping issue out too.

Yea it's got to be i think, nothing is ever straight forward :annoyed:

VIDAL BABBOON

11-01-2009, 23:16

What clutch is it ?

JIMS14

11-01-2009, 23:23

"exedy" hyper single plate.

VIDAL BABBOON

11-01-2009, 23:28

Hmm didn't realise they needed a different bearing carrier!

The one in mine is totally different to the stock item (came via Sumo power) but mine is a twin plate HKS jobbie.

JIMS14

11-01-2009, 23:37

Well the catalogue gives the acceptable tolerance for the bearing carrier, ( I'm a dealer now ), and it's between 24 and 26 mm from the back of the fork mounts to the top of the seat. Also I believe the single plate ones use a non 200 Nissan bearing.
I'm trying to look up the part number. It's 30502-14601. If anyone can shed any light on that one I'd appreciate it.

Jezz_S13

12-01-2009, 08:48

My giken triple uses a diffent carrier, and depending on how many plates etc (thickness of the clutch stack) you use a different carrier, they are all nissan parts though
The part number for the bearing that giken/ORC etc all use is 30502-14601, which is what you have listed, this is a Nissan part but isn't listed in the UK version of FAST.

This pdf lists the various carriers. (bottom left hand corner of the right hand page)
http://www.oguraclutch.co.jp/pdf/orc/orc2007cat_parts.pdf

richy200

12-01-2009, 09:30

holy shit batman

i just realised i havent changed the carrier since i had the car. The car came with a orc single plate clutch. That clutch died after i had the car for about 3 - 4 months as the thrust bearing was pretty much through the clutch cover as all the fingers had a massive groove in. I heard a constant grinding noise but they told me that was normal for twin plates (but it wasn't a twin plate which i found out when i took it off)

I then replaced the clutch for a nismo one. Nismo clutch cover, nismo clutch plate and nismo flywheel. I tore the centre of the clutch plate away from the outer edge within a month and a half. http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b303/psirus/03012009058.jpg

That same carrier is on the car now. Didn't realise until you just said jezz that the orc one requires a different carrier. So basically i don't know what carrier is on the car now.

That's probably the reason why i destroyed the nismo clutch (i heard a grinding noise when i fitted the nismo clutch but i looked on rhdjapan and they said it is a noisey clutch and the clutch was operating completely fine so i didn't think twice.

richy200

12-01-2009, 11:55

.........removed post for stupidity reasons lol

Phoenix

12-01-2009, 14:47

richy200

12-01-2009, 16:13

well if you need someone to give you a hand removing the gearbox again, look me up. We'll have this down to a fine art soon :P

I can also remove the "customisation" to your slave cylinder arm at the same time :wack:

cheers dude u have been a massive help already phoenix can't believe how quick we got that box in :eek:

im pretty sure i have to get it off to replace the carrier, might as well replace the folk and the bearing while i'm there also.

only prob is i have spoken to nistec and they havent got a clue and said they had to call me back (shocking) also spoke to nissan and they said they would phone me back but i can't get hold of anyone that will give me a price for a carrier, bearing and mayb a selector folk :annoyed:

richy200

12-01-2009, 16:16

Phoenix

12-01-2009, 16:17

ok buddy, just give me a day or two to rest my hand up. strained my wrist pretty well having the gear box being held up by it :wack:

richy200

12-01-2009, 16:33

ok buddy, just give me a day or two to rest my hand up. strained my wrist pretty well having the gear box being held up by it :wack:

u wimp ;)

richy200

12-01-2009, 16:35

Spoken to exedy and they said the clutch i have used the oem carrier and bearing. So i must not have the right carrier/bearing.

Jim the bearing i need is

30502-45P00 - this should be the stock one. If for defo it is the carrier/bearing, nissan direct got back to me and quoted me £28 for the carrier and £21.50 for the release bearing :) just have to find out if it is

VIDAL BABBOON

12-01-2009, 18:14

Get in contact with Sumo power :nod:

They were excellent when i had an issue with the HKS one :nod:

They knew exactly what i needed and sent it out ASAP :)

richy200

13-01-2009, 09:14

http://www.courtesyparts.com/kb_search_result.php?keywords=[30502]+\(s14&cPath=3690_3691_3756_3770

anyone know which one of these 2 bearings i should buy??

richy200

13-01-2009, 10:59

nvm mind i've bought all the parts i need from nissan uk £52 quid for a new release bearing carrier and spring holder for the release bearing, so not too expensive :)

Just have to get the box off again . .. . . . PHOENIX!! lol ;)

richy200

13-01-2009, 11:00

Get in contact with Sumo power :nod:

They were excellent when i had an issue with the HKS one :nod:

They knew exactly what i needed and sent it out ASAP :)

Took the car around to jim last nyt and it has to be the release bearing and carrier. Will give them a buzz if when i put it back together it's still not working. Thanmks for the advice tho mate :thumbs:

GAV200

13-01-2009, 15:39

Not sure what stage this is at ATM but,

Anyone else up for going over Richies on Sunday to give him a hand to drink his tea and get his Gear box out again? His box and crutch issues are out weighing a Thai lady boy:whip:.

Get it out and get some of the mech minded guys to have a proper look over things to see what the issues are be it with plenty of pic's etc?

Shouldn't take that long as it should respond to a whistle the number of time its been off 'n' now:wack:

pdh 14a

13-01-2009, 18:46

I could pop up for a bit sunday afternoon! but i'm inbetween my 2 nights,so won't be up to much :wack: :thumbs:

richy200

13-01-2009, 18:47

sorry gav, tried ringing you earlier but something just came up, just bought a s15 and need to pick it up on sunday :)

richy200

13-01-2009, 18:48

still need to get it done at some point tho :P so would it be pssible to rearrange for a different day? got the parts coming tomorrow

GAV200

13-01-2009, 19:19

sorry gav, tried ringing you earlier but something just came up, just bought a s15 and need to pick it up on sunday :)

:p, She's preeety:thumbs:

bustted

13-01-2009, 19:33

nice new motor mate well done in getting it let me now if you wont a hand changing every thing over should be fun

pdh 14a

13-01-2009, 20:50

:eek: An S15! You won the lottery dude? :)

richy200

14-01-2009, 13:31

:eek: An S15! You won the lottery dude? :) na not won the lottery, its a spec s an had silly cheap, cudnt resist :)

nice new motor mate well done in getting it let me now if you wont a hand changing every thing over should be fun

cheers dude it's way beyond my capabolities tbh especially with te wiring as i have a silvia ecu and loom.

:p, She's preeety:thumbs:

cheers dude we will see :)

FOGHORN LEGHORN

14-01-2009, 14:08

cheers dude it's way beyond my capabolities tbh especially with te wiring as i have a silvia ecu and loom.
:)

Won't be much wiring at all mate, ecu and loom out, replace with the other, job done. If you need the crane it's at bustteds I'm sure he'll bring it over for you, if not I'll collect it for ya. Love the car, I'm jelious as a mother fecker