View Full Version : Big ass TV, how much/which one?
Money is burning a hole in my pocket, I fancy a biggish TV to stick in my new house. I've not looked into size, price etc yet. My max budget is around £1k.
Second hand? Internet deals? flatscreen/widescreen/plasma? Whats the score? Are they loosing value fast? Bargins in the near future?
I'll be using it for PS2/DVD's/Sky digi (soon)/ General TV.
Help me out guys :)
Cheers,
Dunc.
Jezz_S13
21-04-2003, 10:30
i got my 36" phillips wideboy (36PW9525) from http://www.qed-uk.com/ for £1400 a couple of years ago.
Very nice it is too. :)
You wont get plasma for less than £2500, but I hear they only last for 3 years or so before you get dead pixels. Whether that is true or not is open to debate.
You cant beat Sony for TV's in my opinion ;)
http://www.empiredirect.co.uk/productdetailsnew.asp?modelcode=SON-KV32FQ70S
:D
But if you want to get rid of some cash you can finance my rebuild if you like ;)
Jezz, cheers for the link - I'll have a proper look around later but couldn't find anything bigger than 32". I've also heard from a reliable source (displays expert at work) that plasma's have a life expectancy.
Mark, The sony's are deffo nice (cheers for the link) - they are usually a tad over priced AFAIK and IMO. Is there any great disadvantage to going for a cheaper make?
Thanks guys,
Dunc. :)
mickstreet
21-04-2003, 11:01
A mate of mine has a 32" widescreen Sanyo TV. Another mate has just moved and bought a 28" Sony widescreen for around the same price. In my opinion you really can't tell any difference so I wouldn't have any problems in going for a so called "cheaper" model.
Mick.
Daniel san
21-04-2003, 11:10
From my experience, Panasonic's are about the most reliable. You can get a 32" 100hz for less than 1k these days.
Plasma's don't have a life expectancy, that's just crap! All this rubbish I hear about them needing to be re-gassed every year/3yrs/5yrs, it changes every day! In reality, they're more reliable than a CRT set, but there are some shite one's about that's for sure. You also have to watch out for older generation screens when you're buying one that's cheap particularly, it could be a few years old! They were only launched about 4 yrs ago and I've seen them change through around 8 screen specs now, maybe more! The Pioneer's technically the best one out there now, with the highest screen resolution and it shows by the picture quality too.
The best telly by far....better than ALL the others, including rear projection (both LCD and Cathode) is the 36" Sony Vega, its the bogs dollocks!
Forget everything else and blow the budget, around £1400 and you can play TWO PS2's on it at the same time with Picture and Picture, and it will process both sound channels two :)
Originally posted by Dan_BlitzedS14
From my experience, Panasonic's are about the most reliable. You can get a 32" 100hz for less than 1k these days.
Is the 100hz noticable? I hadn't considered frequency to be an issue although I did want 60Hz to play the PS2 games at the better setting. So what difference does the Hz make?
Cheers,
Dunc.
Martin T
21-04-2003, 13:22
You've got £1k burning a hole in your pocket?
Buy a second hand telly and get some more mods for your car you silly man!:D :D :D
Oh and 100Hz is very noticable. It totally removes flicker. Look above your current TV, then out of the corner of your eye, you will see just how bad flicker is!
Originally posted by Martin T
You've got £1k burning a hole in your pocket?
Buy a second hand telly and get some more mods for your car you silly man!:D :D :D
Maybe I've got another grand in my other pocket for just that!
Yeah right :rolleyes:
The price difference between 32" TV's is quite great, on most internet sites it doesn't mention whether particular widescreen sets are flatscreen as well. Should I just assume that they are?
Dunc.
Jezz_S13
22-04-2003, 08:34
Originally posted by dunc
Maybe I've got another grand in my other pocket for just that!
Yeah right :rolleyes:
The price difference between 32" TV's is quite great, on most internet sites it doesn't mention whether particular widescreen sets are flatscreen as well. Should I just assume that they are?
Dunc.
No do some proper research, go look at some telly's
have a look at http://www.avforums.com/
Had another look at the TV's, can anyone explain this:
32" TV (http://www.empiredirect.co.uk/productdetailsnew.asp?modelcode=SAM-WS32M64VS)
Its says 32" on the spec, then it says 28". It's got me :confused: :confused:
Thanks in advance :)
Dunc.
Originally posted by Jezz_S13
No do some proper research, go look at some telly's
have a look at http://www.avforums.com/
Cheers for the link (again) Jezz, I'll have a good scan through there and maybe a chuck a post up :)
I'm also going to head through to the big electrical stores in the industrial estate so I can take a look, there's always a good chance of a bit of haggling as well! Its always worth a try, eh?
At least I've now got web prices to compair with.
Thanks,
Dunc.
Jezz_S13
22-04-2003, 09:00
I think it means that it's equivalent to 28" diagonal in 4:3 mode.
Originally posted by Jezz_S13
I think it means that it's equivalent to 28" diagonal in 4:3 mode.
Sorry mate, could you explain what you mean by 4:3 mode? :o
Does it mean non-widescreen or something?
Dunc.
Jezz_S13
22-04-2003, 09:59
yeah that's what an old fashioned telly looks like, ratio of 4 units wide to 3 high, widescreen being 16 wide to 9 high.
Dunc, just to give you another point of view, I have a projector and a pull up screen. The picture is about 5 foot by 3 foot. I then also have a normal 28" telly.
I find it's nice to have the projector for 'special occasions' (films, footy, occasionally computer games etc.) and to watch the normal telly the rest of the time. You could obviously watch everything on the projector but it does get a bit tiring as I actually find it too big for day to day use :eek: The noise from the fan is the only down side but mine is mounted on the ceiling away from where I sit so you can't really hear it too much.
You can pick the projectors up for around a grand. It may not be the ideal solution for everyone but I love it :)
Jezz, I understand now - cheers.
Jeff, I don't think I have enough room for a projector :(
One more thing, can any TV plug into any sound system (good quality seperates), because thats next on my wish list :rolleyes:
Thanks for the replys everyone :)
Dunc.
Martin T
22-04-2003, 11:19
Dunc - the flatscreen TV's will all have the words "Diamondtron (Mitsubishi)", Trinitron (Sony) or some variation of that on the spec sheet.
I wouldn't buy any TV without seeing it in the flesh first, and that should answer all of your questions.
I got a Panasonic 28" with a Panny surround 5.1 system. I saw the TV on offer in Argos the other week for £299!!:eek: Seeing as they normally retail for around £450 I'd say thats a bargain.:mad:
Originally posted by Zenki
I got a Panasonic 28" with a Panny surround 5.1 system. I saw the TV on offer in Argos the other week for £299!!:eek: Seeing as they normally retail for around £450 I'd say thats a bargain.:mad:
Yep, a mate of mine did about a month of research (actually watching the tellys) and plumped for a panasonic - a lot cheaper than a grand as well :)
I looked around for fookin ages too and settled on the 28" Panny. I would have liked a 32" but the price hike is big from 28-32 and I would rather have a decent brand 28 than a cheapo 32.
I might settle for a 28" and go for some good sounds as well?
Thats what my research ended with. If you can get a Panasonic TX28PL1 at Argos for £299 as I saw it the other week then this is a real bargain. I'm more than happy with mine. You can also get the Sony DAVS range of integrated DVD/5.1 amplifiers at good prices. I found these to be a little "bright" sounding which would be made worse by the wood flooring I have in the lounge. I ended up with a Panasonic SCHT75 system which is slightly warmer and is more than capable of filling my lounge and scaring the 5h1t out of the neighbours during the opening sequence of Saving private Ryan!!! :D
Originally posted by Zenki
Thats what my research ended with. If you can get a Panasonic TX28PL1 at Argos for £299 as I saw it the other week then this is a real bargain.
Just been down to a couple of shops but there was nothing even remotely as cheap as this! Is this a flat screen/wide screen?
Comet (or currays? can't remember which) was about the cheapest because they were giving away a DVD player, video player, and cabinet with almost all of the TV's. I'm still happy using my PS2 for DVD's though.
Dunc.
I think the £299 was some kind of in store offer. I actually saw it at the Worthing branch of Argos. I almost bought another one myself as they were so cheap! The same TV is showing at £599 on their site now. You could try www.empiredirect.co.uk as they seem to be quite good but to be honest once you have paid shipping they don't come out and awful lot cheaper than Currys or Dixons which is where I bought mine as a package with the DVD surround system. If you go into Currys and ask for a package deal they are usually running some kind of promotion or summat. I know a lot of people advise against using them but I have never had problems with them and they are usually pretty cheap as they buy stuff in such bulk they can compete with most retailers on prices. It a bit baffling at first mate as there is so much choice but I just took the bull by the horns and went for the Panny set up. I read that some of the JVC TV's are pretty good as are some of the Sharp sets if you are looking at the cheaper ones. The Sony ones are usually pretty good although I read some negative reports about some of their TV's on the net. I would steer clear of the Beko, Daewoo and Goodmans budget TV's if you can but saying that one site sung the praises of one of the Goodmans 28" sets!!:eek: What Hi-Fi mag have a home cinema review section as do most of the home cinema mags available. I just bought a few copies of these and did some research on the net using the "groups" search on www.google.co.uk
Good luck m8! :)
Originally posted by Zenki
I think the £299 was some kind of in store offer. I actually saw it at the Worthing branch of Argos. I almost bought another one myself as they were so cheap!
Nope, just phoned them up to check on it, thats the price they are selling from the "home shopping" argos (basically means they're not available in all stores but are mail order or web). I'll be phoning when I get home tonight, its deffo a bargin and leaves me loads of extra ££'s :)
Ahh, you just missed out on my TV. Sold it 2 months ago - Sony 36" Wega 100Hz jobby. Had it less than 2 years and got £1200 for it.
Got myself the Pioneer 433HDE plasma nicely wall mounted now. :D
The panasonic is out of stock, there's a feckin surprise!
:mad: :(
Having looked at TV's in the shops I've decided the 28" is deffo big enough for my house, so your 36" beast would have been out of the question anyway Didin!!!
Cheers for the info everyone,
Dunc.
Originally posted by dunc
Is the 100hz noticable? I hadn't considered frequency to be an issue although I did want 60Hz to play the PS2 games at the better setting. So what difference does the Hz make?
Cheers,
Dunc.
Dont get 100Hz if you plan to use a light gun with the ps2, doesnt work apparently.
Why not go for rear projection? Its big, cheap (relative), and can be used in daylight. Only downside is that it is slighly less clear than a very good CRT TV.
I got a 52" that I use for DVDs, TV, PS2, and my computer. One of my best purchases.
You should be to get a 41" if you increase your budget just a tad.
As already said get a Widescreen. Sony and Toshiba make some good RPTVs. Worth checking out.
The price difference between 100+50Hz is pretty large in some cases, I'm not sure if I'm willing to pay the difference or not.
Dunc.
100Hz is definatly worth the money mate, i work with them both everyday and you can see the difference very clearly.
I think its the Panasonic TX28PL1 I'm going for. It'll cost around £400 but gets good reviews for its picture quality. 50Hz though.
*Edited to include final question (maybe :rolleyes: ):
Has anyone ordered on-line from BE Direct (BE direct (http://www.bedirect.co.uk/) ) ? *
Dunc.
NO get the panasonic TX-28PL10 is it a better model, 100Hz and an over all better picture qualilty.
I should know i assist in the design of panasonic tvs, due to working there :D:D
Originally posted by Dave200
100Hz is definatly worth the money mate, i work with them both everyday and you can see the difference very clearly.
Yes, defo worth it, and on my Sony one you could switch it off if I remember correctly. I think it was on one of the picture settings somewhere - but I never switched it to anything other than 100Hz.
Rear Projection is OK but I don't like the fact that you don't have a wide visual angle. You have to be pretty much within a 45 degree angle from the front of the screen to get a good clear view.
Jezz_S13
23-04-2003, 11:51
You can switch the 100Hz off on my Phillips to.
Panasonic are good TV's, IIRC the phillips I have has a Panasonic tube in it.
Originally posted by Dave200
NO get the panasonic TX-28PL10 is it a better model, 100Hz and an over all better picture qualilty.
I should know i assist in the design of panasonic tvs, due to working there :D:D
Its costs over £100 more though :(
yeah i know, but believe me it is worth the extra money!
It is up to you though, good luck in which ever you choose
Check out this bargin BTW guys:
Sony WEGA (http://www.bedirect.co.uk/)
Dave200, are the 28DK type panasonics proper flatscreens?
Dunc.
Originally posted by dunc
Dave200, are the 28DK type panasonics proper flatscreens?
The 28DK models are not flatscreens, the tube is the rounded type, i wouldnt recommend that anyways, very old now.
Hope that helps.
Nice deal by the way.
Not a problem,
just keep us informed on what you buy :)
Cheers
Dave
I'm going to order this one tonight, free delivery too.
28" Panasonic (http://www.be-direct.co.uk/productDetails.asp?id=9584)
Cheers,
Dunc.
Its a nice TV mate, if you ever need a new remote control or it, let me know, get you one for free :D
Congratualtions
Dave
There is a guy on www.scoobynet.co.uk for sale section selling quite a good setup (wish I could aford it).
All silver and Toshiba
Tv 32WD98B has dolby digital 5.1, 3 scarts, 100Hz double scan, fast text, digital audio input optical or coaxial + more.3 yrs old with 2 yrs cover left cost £1300 award winning tv.
DVD SD210EB not multi regional 12 months old cost £250 again an award winning dvd player.
Video V-711UK well its a video what can i say cost £100 managers special at comet 12 months ago.
PRICE £600 sorry guys no offers
Can be shown working and all remotes and manuals cables available.
Plasma forces reluctent sale
Hope this helps!!!!!
Down to £500 now:eek: :eek: :eek:
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