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colm
08-08-2008, 16:24
Im looking for some help in finding out what the normal emissons for a 1994 180sx. I think its listed on cert of conformity or something. I need it to vrt the car in Ireland cos there saying its putting out 999g of co2 per km. which sounds pretty fecking crazy. Even if someone knows if its under the 250ish region or not, ifs its more than that it wont matter anyways.

thanks in advance.
STEVE A
09-08-2008, 08:11
HI mate

just looked on my pass sheet for none cat redtop.

co level max 3.50 passed at 0.38

hc level max 1200 passed at 58 ppm

does not say what its measured in ?

hope this helps
Easy007
09-08-2008, 14:26
Just checked mine....

None cat test

CO 1.82%
HC 173ppm

and last years cat test

Fast idle
CO 0.04% (max 0.2)
HC 13ppm (max 200)
lambda 1.01

natural idle
CO 0.03% (max 0.3)
samoht
10-08-2008, 10:34
colm is asking about CO2 (Carbon Dioxide) emissions. You two are talking about CO (Carbon Monoxide) and HC (Hydrocarbon) emissions.

CO and HC are produced by incomplete combustion of the fuel. A well tuned engine with a cat can easily pass the legal limits.

CO2 is produced by the proper, normal complete combustion of the fuel, and is basically another way of measuring fuel economy (carbon in = carbon out). colm is in Ireland and is faced with the application of the new, CO2-based road tax / registration tax to older cars.

CO2 is just fuel consumption; I'd imagine the 180 would be very similar to an S14 as it has the same engine and is the same size. Alternatively, if you can find a car with similar fuel consumption that does have official figures, it will likely be close on CO2.

The problem is that there are no official figures for an older import such as a 180, which is probably why your govt is listing it as 999 - it's just the default maximum. The question is, if you got it professionally tested to govt standards yourself, could you force them to accept your figure, or would they still be able to lump you in with all the 'gas-guzzlers' ?
Easy007
10-08-2008, 10:39
I sit corrected.
colm
10-08-2008, 16:45
thanks for the replys fellas


colm is asking about CO2 (Carbon Dioxide) emissions. You two are talking about CO (Carbon Monoxide) and HC (Hydrocarbon) emissions.

CO and HC are produced by incomplete combustion of the fuel. A well tuned engine with a cat can easily pass the legal limits.

CO2 is produced by the proper, normal complete combustion of the fuel, and is basically another way of measuring fuel economy (carbon in = carbon out). colm is in Ireland and is faced with the application of the new, CO2-based road tax / registration tax to older cars.

CO2 is just fuel consumption; I'd imagine the 180 would be very similar to an S14 as it has the same engine and is the same size. Alternatively, if you can find a car with similar fuel consumption that does have official figures, it will likely be close on CO2.

The problem is that there are no official figures for an older import such as a 180, which is probably why your govt is listing it as 999 - it's just the default maximum. The question is, if you got it professionally tested to govt standards yourself, could you force them to accept your figure, or would they still be able to lump you in with all the 'gas-guzzlers' ?

yea, the new laws here are a huge pain the arse. the good thing is as far as i know that they will accept differnet co2 figures if you have something to back them up. Just finding them is being a bit a problem.
baldeeSX
11-08-2008, 03:40
mate the vrt on the 180s hasnt gone up much at all anyways
vrtd mine just before the new laws and there was a differnece of just 130 euros when i checked after
so just go with it
i think something like 255 is what the emissions are on the s14s so i reckons deyll be similar
colm
11-08-2008, 16:45
mate the vrt on the 180s hasnt gone up much at all anyways
vrtd mine just before the new laws and there was a differnece of just 130 euros when i checked after
so just go with it
i think something like 255 is what the emissions are on the s14s so i reckons deyll be similar

yea it only like an extra €200ish for the vrt i think dude, but the prob is that if i vrt it with that rate then its €2000 for the road tax
baldeeSX
11-08-2008, 23:51
no its not!!
tax laws only change for new cars
the only way the new laws affects imports into ireland is the vrt is based on co2 emissions
the tax stays the same!!!
570 a year or something close to that
colm
12-08-2008, 19:22
no its not!!
tax laws only change for new cars
the only way the new laws affects imports into ireland is the vrt is based on co2 emissions
the tax stays the same!!!
570 a year or something close to that

are you sure about that mate? I was talking to a guy in the tax office n he told me it would be taxed under the new laws cos it was registered after the first. there mostly dicks in there though so its hard to believe anything they say.

If what your saying is true il vrt her tomorrow
T.J
12-08-2008, 20:20
are you sure about that mate? I was talking to a guy in the tax office n he told me it would be taxed under the new laws cos it was registered after the first. there mostly dicks in there though so its hard to believe anything they say.

If what your saying is true il vrt her tomorrow

tax stays the same only new cars are based on the new tax