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Gee
27-03-2003, 12:31
Kev, just thought I would start the thread for the peeps to predict their BHP results at Star.

So come on everybody, list your spec and predicted power @ the wheels.

Is it OK for me and Kenny to cheat and list at the flywheel due to transmission losses?
Gee
27-03-2003, 12:35
Well I'll start.

91 Pulsar GTiR

Mongoose zorst, HKS Super Power Flow, HKS SSQ BOV, HKS Paddle Clutch, HKS AFR, HKS Iridium Plugs, 1 Bar Boost, Coilovers, Strut Brace, Black Diamond Combi Discs, Pagid Fast Road Pads, 15" Falken Racing Tarmac Alloys, Toyo Proxes.

Previous owner said he had a RR slip showing 316 BHP @ flywheel but after reading previous specs on the GTiR forum I predict 290BHP @ the flywheel.

Graham.
JonnySpeedbump
27-03-2003, 15:57
I would hope that with my limited mod's (decatted zorst with Janspeed back box, K+N panel, FBU @ 14 psi ona T25, colder plugs) I should be getting 190-ish at the wheels.

J:)
Midgers
27-03-2003, 18:29
I've got... err...err.. an evo dump valve, IK24's, K&N panel filter, bren device@12psi, decat pipe on standerd cat back.umm...umm... think that's it as for power mods :)

predicted bhp: fook knows... over 200 at the wheels would make me smile :D
dobergoose
27-03-2003, 18:39
I've got lots of sick parts on my car, ask me again in 2 weeks.:(
Mike
27-03-2003, 20:47
I reckon 260bhp at fly or (x 0.85) = 220bhp at wheels from the following:

1360kg weight
TSW Imola 7.5/17
Goodyear Eagle F1s 215/45R17
Speciality Products EZ cam 81250 front camber adjusting bolts
Momo Tornado Steering Wheel
Clarion CD DRB4575R
Autometer 4701 Carbon Fiber Ultra-Lite 20psi Boost Gauge
K&N 75i Filter + cold air feed
Turbo Dynamics T25H p/n MD83 s/n J060JA
ND Actuator 18psi
Jez stage-2 chip 4000/7200rpm limits 15 degrees BTDC
Bosch Fuel Pump
SAAB FMIC + blue Samco hoses
NGK BCPR7ES spark plugs
Bailey Dump Valve
Powerflow 2.5" turbo back system with 5” Jap Box
Brembo 280mm 10 groove front discs + Pagid fast road pads
Castrol GTX Magnatec 10/40
LUK clutch kit
INSANE rear window sticker
Kev
28-03-2003, 02:16
mods:-
T28
Apex fmic
K+N with cold air box by then (hopefully)
Goose

Nout else really makes a differance power wise does it?

Im hoping for between 210 and 220@ wheels will be dissapointed with anything less.

Jonny, have to think ur a bit hopefull with that mate, sorry, but id imagine about a 20-30bhp increase with ur mods which would be more likely 190-200@fly not wheels.
Hope u prove me wrong.

Graham, no explanation needed, ive really just got the mod thing to make sure no-one posts porn links etc and no-one is antagonising anyone else etc.
And occasionally edit peeps posts for a bit of fun lol.
U certainly dont need to clear anything with me b4 posting ffs.

Btw thanks for making me feel like im "on the other side" :( :(

*off topic*
Martin, u not gonna fit the T25 back on for this week?
I mean instead of taking it off the road.

Kev
Mike
28-03-2003, 19:19
Originally posted by Kev

Btw thanks for making me feel like im "on the other side" :( :(

Kev


eh?
Kev
28-03-2003, 21:35
Me a mod now, not scum like the rest of u.
Gee addressed me at the start of the post.
Im just scum tooo, dont address me first:( :(
tmmollah
28-03-2003, 23:19
I got the following:

T28 @ 15PSI
pipercross induction kit
Dump valve
Full powerflow exhaust, 5'' jap back box
volvo FMIC
Apexi electronic boost controller
HD stage 2 chip (by next week)

Would be well happy with 220BHP @ wheels


Tonnie
Mike
29-03-2003, 08:10
Originally posted by tmmollah
I got the following:

T28 @ 15PSI
pipercross induction kit
Dump valve
Full powerflow exhaust, 5'' jap back box
volvo FMIC
Apexi electronic boost controller
HD stage 2 chip (by next week)

Would be well happy with 220BHP @ wheels


Tonnie

...plus you have new paint!

I wonder what the bhp/rpm curves for the T28 vs T25H look like?

How do you like your Powerflow? I still dont play CDs!
Kev
29-03-2003, 14:27
Well this is wat a T28 @14psi and some heavy detting looks like:-

Oh btw u can see that the T28 still wants much more :(
Dam that bloody rev limiter:( :(
Mike
29-03-2003, 18:23
Originally posted by Kev
Well this is wat a T28 @14psi and some heavy detting looks like:-

Oh btw u can see that the T28 still wants much more :(
Dam that bloody rev limiter:( :(

what mods did u have then, Kev?
Kev
29-03-2003, 21:46
same ive got now Mike.
Apart from a gas flowed head
Mike
30-03-2003, 18:41
Originally posted by Kev
same ive got now Mike.
Apart from a gas flowed head

according to the ND engine tuning list (T28 @ 18psi) this should get you +90bhp on 170 standard, i.e. easily around abouts 260bhp at the fly... have you got a chip and a fuel pump upgrade?
Kev
30-03-2003, 18:57
same as u mike.
Mike
30-03-2003, 21:01
...get the boooost wound up then!
Rambo stalker
31-03-2003, 01:32
Originally posted by Mike
...get the boooost wound up then!

i gotta agree wid him Kev! i want more power!!!
Kev
31-03-2003, 02:14
According to Jez's answer to my PM, if i wind it up ill be maxing out the injectors.
Might just try it for errr research, yeah thats it, research purposes:D :D
AlanHill
31-03-2003, 10:49
Mods as sig.

Not expecting a big increase from stock as I've not done a lot of mods.

Wouldnm't know what to expect anyway being a bit of an old novice.
Mike
31-03-2003, 21:19
Originally posted by Kev
According to Jez's answer to my PM, if i wind it up ill be maxing out the injectors.
Might just try it for errr research, yeah thats it, research purposes:D :D

do it on the day Kev then they can check if mixture is OK. Also, Norris doesnt say U need injectors until U get to around 330ish
Paul_S13
02-04-2003, 07:40
Originally posted by Mike
do it on the day Kev then they can check if mixture is OK. Also, Norris doesnt say U need injectors until U get to around 330ish

Its not advisable to run T28's higher than 16psi IMHO anymore and you will need 444cc injectors, 300+bhp on standard injectors is possible but not recommended at all, also you will need an adjustable fuel pressure regulator to get those figures.
Kev
02-04-2003, 17:33
Originally posted by Paul_s13
300+bhp on standard injectors is possible but not recommended at all, but i did it just to stick my tongue out at the ones who said it wasnt possible

Yeah i knew that was wat u mean Paul:p :D
Paul_S13
03-04-2003, 14:34
Originally posted by Kev
Yeah i knew that was wat u mean Paul:p :D

http://mysmilies.creativesell.net/otn/realhappy/jump.gif
kenny200sx
09-04-2003, 15:53
Hi guys

The boost guage eventually turned up and its installed already.

So ... for Sunday I'll have the dawes installed ;)

For those folks interested, the Scooby std boost is 0.9/1.0 bar
in 3,4 and 5th.

I can safely turn the wick up by 15%.

So I reckon ... 215 bhp std @ fly + 15% = 245 bhp
Minus 25% 4wd transmission loses
Leaving me with a massive ... 183 bhp at the wheels - which is not bad.

So thats may prediction for the RR - 183 bhp @ the wheels.

Anyone disagree?

Cheers
Kenny
Mike
09-04-2003, 19:10
Kev, are you going to keep a tally of the biggest bhps/shiniest car/outrageous spoilers?
Kev
09-04-2003, 22:57
Err sure if u tell me why i should instead of u?
Me is only one person, but u r super mike, and i think i win silliest spoiler already lol.

I vote we givre the job of tally keeping to Mike.
Ps. if u wanna have a proper vote go a head, but ill rig it so everyone votes u Mike:p :p :D

Oooooh too much power
dunc
10-04-2003, 08:50
Originally posted by kenny200sx

So I reckon ... 215 bhp std @ fly + 15% = 245 bhp
Minus 25% 4wd transmission loses
Leaving me with a massive ... 183 bhp at the wheels - which is not bad.



That sounds about right for flywheel figures Kenny. I did think the 4wd losses were much greater than 25% though? I'm not sure but I think thats round about what some 2WD boys use for tranny loses.

I recon that 245bhp at the fly should be right though :)

Dunc.
Mike
10-04-2003, 23:42
Originally posted by Kev
Err sure if u tell me why i should instead of u?
Me is only one person, but u r super mike, and i think i win silliest spoiler already lol.

I vote we givre the job of tally keeping to Mike.
Ps. if u wanna have a proper vote go a head, but ill rig it so everyone votes u Mike:p :p :D

Oooooh too much power

tell ya wot, Kev... let's keep tally together!
Kev
11-04-2003, 02:17
Oh, ok then:( :p :D
JonnySpeedbump
11-04-2003, 12:07
Originally posted by Mike
Kev, are you going to keep a tally of the biggest bhps/shiniest car/outrageous spoilers?

......most Probe-like........ :rolleyes: .

I think there should be an extra special prize for the winner of this category :p .
dobergoose
11-04-2003, 12:14
What about a prize for running in new parts by thrashing them on the rollers(fingers crossed an all that):eek:
Kev
13-04-2003, 16:04
so who was close to their figures?
Midgers
13-04-2003, 16:17
well it looks like 200 at the wheels was a TAD optimistic... 170 at the wheels if that's the only figure that counts... eh Kev ;)
225 @ fly :D that't the one i'll be quoting then ;)
Mike
13-04-2003, 18:11
Originally posted by Mike
I reckon 260bhp at fly or (x 0.85) = 220bhp at wheels


I got 256.5 @ fly and 206.5 at wheels = 49.0 or 20% transmission losses so wrong on wheels but close on fly...
Gee
13-04-2003, 19:29
I predicted 290 @ flywheel and got 304 so I wasn't far away!
JonnySpeedbump
13-04-2003, 20:33
Originally posted by JonnySpeedbump
I would hope that with my limited mod's (decatted zorst with Janspeed back box, K+N panel, FBU @ 14 psi on a T25, colder plugs) I should be getting 190-ish at the wheels.

J:)


....ahem... erm :o ...... I meant to say 190bhp at the fly (got 185bhp) I did, I did :p ....
*Jonny avoids the door smacking him on the ass as he leaves*

:D
Kev
13-04-2003, 22:57
Originally posted by JonnySpeedbump
....ahem... erm :o ...... I meant to say 190bhp at the fly (got 185bhp) I did, I did :p ....
*Jonny avoids the door smacking him on the ass as he leaves*

:D

:D :D :D

Graham u know which figure counts mate ;)