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andyf
25-03-2003, 12:50
http://www.supraforums.com/showthread.php?threadid=110629&perpage=25&pagenumber=1 (may need registration)

I'm trying so hard to restrain myself from commenting on how dodgy american HP figures are.
dunc
25-03-2003, 12:59
Didn't read it all but most of the guys are talking like 1000+bhp supras are ten a penny, bullshit! The only street legal one I've ever heard of (although haven't researched the matter much) is the skyline engined top-secret one.

1300bhp my ass!
Dave_S
25-03-2003, 13:03
LOL!!! OMG!!!

This is my favourite quote so far ...


Stock 'busas are an easy meal with a single, fuel, and a shot of happy gas. Around 700-800rwhp will smoke them quite easily.

Oh really, ONLY 700bhp @ the wheels??? FFS!!! :rolleyes:

Dave
arry
25-03-2003, 13:07
what you guys on about? my standard CA18DET with a shot of optimax will nuke the 600bhp mark:rolleyes:
mickstreet
25-03-2003, 13:10
I thought one of the highest powered Supras was the yellow Jun built one that I think managed to break 200mph on the salt flats?? Again, I think that was pushing 800bhp so 1300 does seem shall we say optimistic!
Dave_S
25-03-2003, 13:15
This shows how messed up their figures are ..


Anyhoo, 1300RWHP is damn near pushing Formula 1 power, but should I really be surprised

Well F1 cars are about 850bhp @ fly aren't they, how the hell does that translate to 1300bhp @ wheels??? tossers :rolleyes:

EDIT: Just read the next post where someone points that out to him :rolleyes: :o

Dave
Nathan_200sx
25-03-2003, 13:19
lmao, it's a classic my nobs bigger than your's situation where the results just keep getting bigger and bigger. I dont believe any figure until I've seen a graph that proves it.
Paul_S13
25-03-2003, 17:04
Originally posted by Nathan_200sx
lmao, it's a classic my nobs bigger than your's situation where the results just keep getting bigger and bigger. I dont believe any figure until I've seen a graph that proves it.

I think even U.S. dynos lie, they use the SAE standard that doesn't take into account water pump/power steering pump/ alternator losses and if I remember correctly someone also posted and said they stick the gearbox losses on top and still call it a "at the wheels figure".

I also found one site that had a conversion factor for DIN (european power standard) to SAE and I worked out that my car had 408bhp!! :D

**EDIT**

ALLEGEDLY ;)
dunc
25-03-2003, 17:17
Originally posted by Paul_s13

I also found one site that had a conversion factor for DIN (european power standard) to SAE and I worked out that my car had 408bhp!! :D



I think I'll start quoting SAE fiqures too ;)
Kev
25-03-2003, 18:59
Originally posted by arry
what you guys on about? my standard CA18DET with a shot of optimax will nuke my big ends again :rolleyes:

Yeah i know arry
voodoo_melon
25-03-2003, 20:35
Originally posted by Paul_s13
I think even U.S. dynos lie, they use the SAE standard that doesn't take into account water pump/power steering pump/ alternator losses and if I remember correctly someone also posted and said they stick the gearbox losses on top and still call it a "at the wheels figure".

I also found one site that had a conversion factor for DIN (european power standard) to SAE and I worked out that my car had 408bhp!! :D

**EDIT**

ALLEGEDLY ;)

Wheres this? My car only has 74bhp (its a 1.3), anything to push it up a bit ;)
Nismo_Freak
25-03-2003, 21:01
Originally posted by Paul_s13
I think even U.S. dynos lie, they use the SAE standard that doesn't take into account water pump/power steering pump/ alternator losses and if I remember correctly someone also posted and said they stick the gearbox losses on top and still call it a "at the wheels figure".

I also found one site that had a conversion factor for DIN (european power standard) to SAE and I worked out that my car had 408bhp!! :D

**EDIT**

ALLEGEDLY ;)

If this were the case then how do we measure gains from lightweight pulleys?

We do not add power to the graph.

I've seen the numbers you guys put out and they are on par with the same numbers we put out here in the US.

Jesus Rivera, or some supra dyno queen, has dynoed at a little over 1000rwhp.

I can give you examples of 600, 700, 800, 900rwhp Supras in Austin alone. 804rwhp out of a Supra... and it has 9 second timeslips to back it up.

Supras are dyno queens anyways... who really cares.
Keith_C
25-03-2003, 21:58
Oi! :mad:
Dave_S
26-03-2003, 07:22
LOL! :D

Dave
Chris_Lacey
26-03-2003, 08:38
More worryingly, Keith_C is a queen :D
arry
26-03-2003, 08:40
Originally posted by Kev
Yeah i know arry

cheeky scottish monkey :p