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Jeffers_S13
07-04-2008, 13:33
We realised our <a href="http://www.sxoc.co.uk/vbb/showthread.php?t=327275">S15.3</a> (our ‘A’ car) was never going to be finished for the first round of the European Drift Championship, so in order that we could still compete and potentially win some points we needed something else to tide us over.

We wanted a car that we could leave at Scott’s that could be wheeled out as and when needed for use in the championship so that we could concentrate on the S15 and not worry about the ‘B’, i.e. ready to go, so we bought this :

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The ex Ian Harrison S13.

However at the first test outing we realised it may have been a mistake…

We had spent several nights sorting out a fair few things with the car which I guess is standard drifter practice but which we weren’t particularly happy about.

Whilst it was out we actually replaced the seat for one of Scots own to lower him a little further. It looked pretty tired and well used so we’d already planned to spruce it up and attempt to bring it back up to EDC standards so we fitted a bodykit from EP Racing and sprayed it white with a black roof over the weekend before Easter.

Before painting the roof :

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Finished :

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Believing the car to be otherwise good to use and not wanting to spend any more time than was necessary on it, we got the car running, set up boost up and then took it for a track test on Good Friday.

After 20 minutes of use the car had developed no pressure in the coolant system, the handbrake didn’t work, the clutch was slipping in some gears, the knackered shocks made it handle like a see saw and Scott said it didnt feel particularly powerful. As we began loading it onto the trailer to take it home it started to pour steam out the exhaust.

Once back at the unit, we left it running for a while, still no pressure and seemingly no flow through the radiator. So we pulled out the thermostat and found it to be rusted shut, we binned it and re-assembled without one to make sure it was that. Now we had flow through the rad but still no pressure, steam from the exhaust was intermittent. So, we replaced the rad, still no pressure and still intermittent steam and now a rough idle. We then pulled the plugs. Steam came out of No.3. We pulled the engine and took the head off, no visible signs of HG failure, so we can only suspect there is a crack in the head or possibly the inlet water jacket. Whilst removing bits and bobs, more and more questionable things were found :

Missing spacers on injector rail :

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Resulting in split/leaking injector seals :

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And misaligned injectors :

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Probably why it felt underpowered. But, worst of all, mix and match bolts used on the clutch cover, I wonder if the flywheel bolts were even torqued up !? :eek:

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After removing the clutch and flywheel we also found a totally fubared spigot bush and a left-over automatic spigot ring :

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As time was now short with only one weekend left for testing, we decided to cut our losses with the engine, in fear of finding worse or having even more issues, it sounded pretty rough and rattley anyhow.

After some mad forum and ebay scouring we sourced a low mileage engine from down south and also a new clutch as we couldn’t afford for it to start slipping after some proper use. The engine was collected on Easter Monday and fitted it in the evenings.

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e356/Jeffers_S13/27032008642.jpg

‘exctr’ has loaned us his clutch till we buy him a replacement, cheers buddy :thumbs:

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We also fitted a replacement turbo as the one that came off was waaaay past its best.

Play in shaft so bad it was rubbing on the housing :

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and a cracked wastgate

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After sorting a few more dodgy things whilst the engine was out the way, the engine was re-fitted and running at 11:30 on Thursday 27th night, it ran like a dream, but still no coolant pressure ! so the only thing we hadn’t changed was the heater matrix. 5 mins later, heater matrix bypassed and hey presto we had pressure and all was well.

Then (in no particular order) the fabri-cage was welded in, engine kill switch sorted, extinguisher pull and kill switch pull mounted. Gauges have been got working, the shocks have been replaced, the rear brake lines have been replaced in favour of hydraulic handbrake set-up, also the rear calipers have been replaced with newer S15 ones, one of the rear calipers was seized and the extinguisher re-mounted to miss the new handbrake.

Much, much more work has been done. The car wasn’t the car we were led to believe it was. Had we known it would have meant 3 weeks worth of work and nearly £5k we would probably have built a car from scratch, based on a crash damaged 14 or 14a, as that’s what we have more or less done with this car now.

Jeffers_S13
07-04-2008, 13:39
On Wednesday 2nd and Thursday 3rd the car had its stickers applied.

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We went for a brief test session on Thursday afternoon. Although brief, it was probably the longest period Scott had to get a better feel for the car :smash:

Being relatively low powered (it ought be around ~260BHP) Scott was having trouble keeping the wheels spinning, it was just too grippy, not the best when the point is for it to skid ! Scott also complained about it being a little vague on the steering.

The vague steering was down to the steering column not actually being bolted up to the rack :eek: glad we found that in time…we kept trying different things and improving the handling until we ran out of time which happened all too soon. We headed back to the unit. We spent some time generally tidying it up and fitting the passenger seat.

We loaded it up on Friday evening and took it to the track, only an hour drive away.

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There were very few people there and lots of empty garages. We returned back to the unit and assembled a monster pile of spares and tools and loaded the car up. Saturday morning we were up at 4:30 so we would be sure we could get into the paddock as soon as the gates opened. We were let in at 6:20, a little extra time to go over everything once again. I was more nervous than Scott ! we’d spend so much time and effort on it, I didn’t want anything to go wrong.

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Scott did us proud and during the practice session he improved his driving and seemed to get to grips with the car getting bigger and bigger angle…then it rained. Everyone seemed to struggle as the track got wetter and people were spinning and sliding off at the first corner, only one near miss with the wall for us thankfully.

Qualifying and Scott drove brilliantly given the little time he’d had in the car. I don’t know what we scored but he completed all without incident. In the drivers room afterwards we were disappointed to find out we were 11th on the list ! only 10 places available as 6 were already taken by the top 6 who automatically qualify, if the top 6 had had to qualify I think we may have got through…next time hopefully, not looking forward to the long trip ! but Im looking forward to seeing our car in action again :)

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Smiley
07-04-2008, 13:42
looking good!

Scougar
07-04-2008, 14:03
Wow.. well done given the time constraint and the pile of crap you unfortunately bought. Well done for turning the situation around :)

Nice looking car now :)

Matthew

xborninthefight
07-04-2008, 17:37
Ooo me liking this a lot, more picys of all the work:smash::)

S3 1MDl
08-04-2008, 00:20
as ali-g once said RESTEPA :notworthy

Flik
08-04-2008, 00:24
as ali-g once said RESTEPA :notworthy

I thought it was RESTECP :wack:

Ace project lads

David Reid
08-04-2008, 10:36
Here is the only decent video I took of the car taken during the 1st practise

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKvcM1wkK5c

V-MAX
20-04-2008, 09:55
Just spotted this...

Well done guys for all that hard work, getting the car out there and looking good too. It was a shame Scott just missed out on the top 16 after all that effort.

Good luck for Knockhill :thumbs:

kingj
20-04-2008, 13:49
looking good, you guys seem to have made the best out of a bad situation! well done and good luck:thumbs: ........nice streering wheel too:)

Dave270R
20-04-2008, 16:24
Car looks great, love what you've done with it :nod:

Jeffers_S13
16-05-2008, 09:52
Round 2 this weekend so we thought we'd leave alterations till just a couple of days before the long trip :wack:

We had managed to adapt our S15 coilovers on for the 1st round after finding the ones that came with the car were goosed, they were less than ideal so needed to be changed.

We are using the Cusco traction arms from our S15 project as its not gonna need them for a while yet...

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e356/Jeffers_S13/14052008792.jpg

Dave also popped over to Driftworks HQ to buy a few goodies :

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We got the car jacked up and started twirling the spanners :

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Kei office coilovers off :

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e356/Jeffers_S13/14052008789.jpg

We also fitted some locking collars we got with a car we have dismantled :

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e356/Jeffers_S13/14052008790.jpg

All done ready for alignment :)

Pablo13
16-05-2008, 09:57
Coming along well, keep it up :thumbs:

Jeffers_S13
16-05-2008, 10:09
So last night we set about sorting the geometry out. We set the ride height on the garage floor and then got the car up on the platforms which is a heck of a lot of time consuming faff with just a jack.

We clamped on the kit, plugged it in and fired it up as we have done before with no probs.

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But not tonight !

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We then spent a loooong time altering the ride height by a few mm to allow all the front and rear beam sensors to see each other, a total PITA (the side ones are flashing in the pic because we prob walked in front of the beam). After getting the front and rear beams unbroken it was still telling us we had a link error but not telling us with which pair :annoyed:

So we then spent another couple of hours trying to figure out what was wrong with the goddam kit but to no avail, so at 2:00 am we made the decision to use what else we had available, spirit levels and tape measures :rolleyes:

Doing trigonometry at 3:00 am is a bit of a challenge...mistakes were made...:wack: and corrected...a few times...A cup of tea later and some double checking, adjusting, measuring, adjusting, measuring, adjusting, measuring...(you get the idea) we completed the challenge and I finally got to bed at 3:45 am this morning. I hope Scott appreciates all this...:smash:

Anyone coming to watch EDC on Sunday ?

Starks
16-05-2008, 10:20
Looking good bud, the s13 looks sweet :thumbs:



Shame bout all the hassle with it but im sure itll be worth it :D good look in the forthcoming rounds :thumbs:

David Reid
16-05-2008, 13:18
Once I got home and spoken to Orange because they had sent me a phone which didn't work it was 4am before I got to bed and the bloody bird had started to wake up.

I now cant wait to see how the car performs

TheChin
16-05-2008, 14:26
Looking good lads. Nice determination! It's a great relief to get it done but as soon as you put down the last tool you hit a wall of "Fook i need sleep.. NOW!":wack:

How's the S15 coming on?

David Reid
16-05-2008, 14:42
How's the S15 coming on?

Its painted and should be rolling soon, picked up some special bits from Driftworks for that car to.

TheChin
16-05-2008, 15:10
picked up some special bits from Driftworks for that car to.

Tease :whip: