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Parker
25-02-2008, 22:15
Been to PTS again today for my regular pre-season upgrades :)

The bumper was damaged by a suicidal rabbit recently so that was coming off for (another) trip to the body shop :rolleyes:

Impact pulled the bumper away from the wing causing it to sit low
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g81/tomparker200/2008%20Trackday%20Prep/P2250027.jpg

Lack of support from the wings caused front the brackets to tear slightly
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g81/tomparker200/2008%20Trackday%20Prep/P2250028.jpg

Near-side took the brunt of the bunny
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g81/tomparker200/2008%20Trackday%20Prep/P2250029.jpg

JJ removing the offending bumper
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g81/tomparker200/2008%20Trackday%20Prep/P2250030.jpg

The oil cooler is being fitted properly. This is The Car Clinic's "effort" :annoyed: Sadly, Chris' Riv-Nut tool died halfway through so the "after" photos will be later in the week.
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g81/tomparker200/2008%20Trackday%20Prep/P2250031.jpg

I need more high speed stability so Chris is going to make me a front undertray as the first step in solving this. There's going to be a splitter too which will hopefully decapitate any rabbits who decide to try and wreck my bumper :)

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g81/tomparker200/2008%20Trackday%20Prep/P2250036.jpg

Parker
25-02-2008, 22:27
My original Apex FMIC is being replaced by an R32GTR cooler and custom pipework :cool: Will be using 3" stainless all the way through with as few bends as possible. Also going for a custom intake pipe and Apexi filter as I'm tight for space due to the more direct routing of the hot pipe.

Filter was a bit grubby!!!
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g81/tomparker200/2008%20Trackday%20Prep/P2250032.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g81/tomparker200/2008%20Trackday%20Prep/P2250033.jpg

Old intake pipe goes 3" > 2" < 3" which isn't ideal
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g81/tomparker200/2008%20Trackday%20Prep/P2250034.jpg

Waf-er thin rad plus cabletie -fest fan "assembly"...
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g81/tomparker200/2008%20Trackday%20Prep/P2250037.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g81/tomparker200/2008%20Trackday%20Prep/P2250038.jpg

...is being replaced by Koyo goodness
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g81/tomparker200/2008%20Trackday%20Prep/P2250039.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g81/tomparker200/2008%20Trackday%20Prep/P2250040.jpg

Lots of stainless pipe :smitten:
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g81/tomparker200/2008%20Trackday%20Prep/P2250035.jpg

Chris :notworthy sussing out the best route for the cold pipe. Washer bottle will have to be relocated but hopefully the battery can stay.
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g81/tomparker200/2008%20Trackday%20Prep/P2250041.jpg

No photos of the custom brackets yet (they need welding and painting but here's the money shot
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g81/tomparker200/2008%20Trackday%20Prep/P2250043.jpg

Pretty good fit for the bumper hole :nod: but room for improvement before it's finalised. FMIC core will be touched up before final fitting.
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g81/tomparker200/2008%20Trackday%20Prep/P2250042.jpg

Should be done by the end of the week. Going to remap afterwards too, so the map is spot on

Chris B
25-02-2008, 23:56
Really liked the look of those stainless pipes when I saw them :nod:

Koyo goodness :D

Parker
27-02-2008, 21:18
I like them even more when they're on the car :cool: Chris sent me a little teaser yesterday. Can't wait to see it all together now! It's pretty obvious that it's going to flow so much better than before so I think it should be noticeable when driving :)

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g81/tomparker200/2008%20Trackday%20Prep/26-02-08_1715.jpg

TM_S13
27-02-2008, 21:26
looking good

RobCrezz
28-02-2008, 11:02
Wanna sell the kit for your old apex FMIC?

JuZ
01-03-2008, 13:23
That's going to look so much better :D

Parker
01-03-2008, 16:20
looking good

That's going to look so much better :D

Thanks guys, hopefully, it'll be nicer to drive too :D


Wanna sell the kit for your old apex FMIC?

Yep. I'll PM you before I put the for sale thread up.

More pics in a second :)

Parker
01-03-2008, 16:27
Spent Friday afternoon/evening at PTS trying to get it all finished. Had Chris, JJ and new guy Ryan on the case plus me :smash:

Oil cooler was fitted properly during the week
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g81/tomparker200/2008%20Trackday%20Prep/P2290045.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g81/tomparker200/2008%20Trackday%20Prep/P2290048.jpg

Pipework was back from the polishers. I got a semi at the sight of it! It's much better than the old pipework, there's only one tight 90 degree bend in there.

Induction pipe
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g81/tomparker200/2008%20Trackday%20Prep/P2290049.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g81/tomparker200/2008%20Trackday%20Prep/P2290066.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g81/tomparker200/2008%20Trackday%20Prep/P2290067.jpg

Hot pipe
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g81/tomparker200/2008%20Trackday%20Prep/P2290053.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g81/tomparker200/2008%20Trackday%20Prep/P2290064.jpg

Cold pipe
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g81/tomparker200/2008%20Trackday%20Prep/P2290051.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g81/tomparker200/2008%20Trackday%20Prep/P2290063.jpg

There's a weld in there somewhere
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g81/tomparker200/2008%20Trackday%20Prep/P2290055.jpg

Undertray being cut...
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g81/tomparker200/2008%20Trackday%20Prep/P2290056.jpg

...and being test fitted. It still needs a slot for the ARB cutting out plus access for servicing
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g81/tomparker200/2008%20Trackday%20Prep/P2290069.jpg

/\/\/\/\ PMSL

Parker
01-03-2008, 16:33
FMIC top bracket painted and fitted
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g81/tomparker200/2008%20Trackday%20Prep/P2290057.jpg

Bottom bracket
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g81/tomparker200/2008%20Trackday%20Prep/P2290059.jpg

FMIC fitted
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g81/tomparker200/2008%20Trackday%20Prep/P2290061.jpg

Koyo fitted with bracket for fans. Chris is going to make a bottom bracket and weld a strip onto the top of the top bracket which should look good and add strength.
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g81/tomparker200/2008%20Trackday%20Prep/P2290068.jpg

Don't have photos of the splitter yet but it's cut out and going to be prep'd before fitting.

The bumper was back from the body shop who repainted it and repaired the damage. It looks great but is still a crap fit due to the poor quality of the kit. The undertray will make it uber strong though which should hopefully prevent future damage.

Washer bottle still needs relocating and the rear ride height needs to come down a touch. Even a 7:30 finish on Friday couldn't get all the work done so I'm picking it up next week.

Chris B
02-03-2008, 00:22
McLuvin the smooth charge route :cool: but standard exhaust manifold? :(

Undertray is sweet too, chaging the oil could be fun :wack:

Did the coilpacks fix the misfire in the end?

steve 1200
02-03-2008, 00:55
Looks nice tom, should be down to see chris within the next couple of weeks he has some goodies there for me

TM_S13
02-03-2008, 11:34
looks really nice !!

Algie
02-03-2008, 18:41
Bloody hell you were busy mate :D

Looks fantastic!

About time you had that FMIC moved, the gap was causing weather problems from the pressure differentials :p

Parker
02-03-2008, 22:04
McLuvin the smooth charge route :cool: but standard exhaust manifold? :(

Undertray is sweet too, chaging the oil could be fun :wack:

Did the coilpacks fix the misfire in the end?

Me to, manifold will end up in the bin one day but have to prioritise. There's access holes to make oil changes possible :thumbs:

I think I've done away with the misfire but I changed a few things at once so I need to reverse the changes until I work out what it was :)


Looks nice tom, should be down to see chris within the next couple of weeks he has some goodies there for me

He's always got goodies and if not he'll make you some as well you know! :smash::D


looks really nice !!

Thanks, can't wait to see how it drives now :thumbs:


Bloody hell you were busy mate :D

Looks fantastic!

About time you had that FMIC moved, the gap was causing weather problems from the pressure differentials :p

Get bent :p Chris was busy, I was supplying biscuits :wack: Fabrication isn't my strong point hence Chris doing it all!!!

Fake Ben Taylor
03-03-2008, 12:20
looks great matey :D how heavy is the undertray?:)

when you said about it at srr i didnt think it would be nearly finished in a week :wack:

Evilchap
03-03-2008, 12:55
If you fancy a carbon undertray making from that shiney one using it as a male mould give me a shout ;)

Looking good though, I hope the next RR day is kinder than the one at Triton :)

Parker
03-03-2008, 13:37
looks great matey :D how heavy is the undertray?:)

when you said about it at srr i didnt think it would be nearly finished in a week :wack:

The undertray isn't that heavy really, someone asked Chris how heavy his was and he picked it up on the end of his fingers so not bad considering :)

The undertray hardly took any time, the majority of the time was taken up by the pipework but it's so worth it :smitten:

muttley
03-03-2008, 15:37
Thats looking really :thumbs:
any chance of a picture of the finished undertray prior to fitting please ;)

TM_S13
03-03-2008, 15:50
the pipework came up really nice.
the weld disapeared ... tell me something, was it TIG welded ?

the undertray looks strong though...

Parker
03-03-2008, 18:57
Thats looking really :thumbs:
any chance of a picture of the finished undertray prior to fitting please ;)

Thanks :) I suspect that the undertray is on the car now. The bit you can't see is specific to my bumper anyhow :)


the pipework came up really nice.
the weld disapeared ... tell me something, was it TIG welded ?

the undertray looks strong though...

It's MIG welded and polished :cool:

stevec
04-03-2008, 15:11
you need brushes too.

chris knows how to fit them ;)

looking good. I miss my S13...

/Steve

Parker
04-03-2008, 17:29
Not sure on brushes for a semi-road car... Will have to go full undertray one day but I'll let Chris have a play with his first :D

Get another ;)

Fake Ben Taylor
04-03-2008, 18:46
you need brushes too.

chris knows how to fit them ;)

looking good. I miss my S13...

/Steve

i have your old s13 now :wave: and the brushes ;)

stevec
04-03-2008, 19:21
cool I hope the old girl is behaving

:thumbs:

/Steve

Fake Ben Taylor
04-03-2008, 19:27
cool I hope the old girl is behaving

:thumbs:

/Steve

well shes in bits at the minute having braces welded in, seam welding and cage altered :wack:

Parker
04-03-2008, 20:35
Hey this thread is so people can tell me how great my car looks and how fast it's going to go now I've spunked another wad of cash on it :whip: :p

Fake Ben Taylor
04-03-2008, 20:50
Hey this thread is so people can tell me how great my car looks and how fast it's going to go now I've spunked another wad of cash on it :whip: :p

but......you drive it :confused:

its always going to be slow:wack::p

Algie
04-03-2008, 20:57
So what else are you doing to the car Ben? :D:D:D:

Just kidding Tom,

No hi-jacking you lot! :whip:

Parker
04-03-2008, 20:59
but......you drive it :confused:

its always going to be slow:wack::p

I bet it's faster than one being towed on a trailer ;)

Fake Ben Taylor
04-03-2008, 21:06
I bet it's faster than one being towed on a trailer ;)

heh!!! touche mr parker:smash:

stevec
05-03-2008, 08:36
are you going to chop your rear bumper about like the lexus racecar?

I was going to make a rear diffuser for mine like this one

http://sxoc.com/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=33852&d=1149763348

not sure if the fuel tank would need to be moved though. are you getting a fuel cell Tom?

/steve

XScaPE
05-03-2008, 10:31
more wondercraft by master chris and the lads, good job.

Parker
05-03-2008, 22:36
are you going to chop your rear bumper about like the lexus racecar?

I was going to make a rear diffuser for mine like this one

http://sxoc.com/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=33852&d=1149763348

not sure if the fuel tank would need to be moved though. are you getting a fuel cell Tom?

/steve

Not decided on the rear yet. Think the front end is causing most issues so sorting that first. Will see how the rest feels when it's done. On the verge of bolting a BGW to the back....

Fake Ben Taylor
06-03-2008, 13:18
tom i before attacking the back we need to talk ;):thumbs:

ive been speaking to people who work on aero at nissan nd also have few links of cars with all underside done with good results :thumbs:

Parker
06-03-2008, 13:36
Talk away young Ben :)

Petrol
06-03-2008, 16:04
Some quality fabrication going on there :notworthy :thumbs: Bet the pipework took some polishing :eek:

Lynxy
06-03-2008, 16:12
top stuff bud, keep up the good work :thumbs:

Parker
07-03-2008, 12:46
Some quality fabrication going on there :notworthy :thumbs: Bet the pipework took some polishing :eek:

Indeed, it fits so well and looks the part. Much better than an off the shelf kit although it costs a smidge more. Proof that you get what you pay for :)


top stuff bud, keep up the good work :thumbs:

Cheers :thumbs:

Spoke to Chris today and there's a few little jobs to finish off. Washer bottle relocation, bottom fan bracket and something else :wack: It might be finished tomorrow but I've said to fit it in around his other work. Fingers crossed though ;)

Have decided to leave the splitter off for the time being until I sort out some downforce on the rear (BGW time then) to keep the car balanced. Not sure it's a good idea to have less lift and more downforce on the front end with a bit of lift on the rear, especially when chasing people round Paddock Hill Bend :eek: :wack:

stevec
07-03-2008, 14:22
could you not put a gurney flap on the back?

you can buy little lip spoilers for things on ebay. I had one on my Mazda6 and have one on my Bora, the Bora gets very dirty on the back end now, It may be placebo effect but it does feel more stable.

The BGW option is ok but I have read that a gurney flap gives similar downforce ad one with almost no drag compromise, christ knows how that works but strange things happen in vortices..

I wish I had run mine without the brushes on a track day just to get a bench mark.
my old 200 was well and truly stuck to the track or road in all conditions.

see ya
steve

Parker
09-03-2008, 22:25
Any idea or links for where to source a gurney flap? Would prefer something a little less F&F...

Did talk to Chris about just using an undertray and he thinks to make it work properly, I'd have to loose the tank and maybe the exhaust which would be a bit impractial for a car that won't be trailered.

Last photo (for now!) from yesterday when I picked it up is the new home for the washer bottle. It's in the rear offside corner hooked up to the rear screen washer pipe. The spout is chopped down and will be used as a filler funnel :)

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g81/tomparker200/2008%20Trackday%20Prep/P3080077.jpg

Been testing it "a little" yesterday and today and although the roads have been a bit wet I can confirm that 80-90 leptons feels more confortable than it did without the undertray :cool:

The turbo doesn't feel any laggier than before with the bigger pipework and if anything it's a tiny bit quicker to spool. I think I need to turn the boost controller down though as I hit 1.42bar this afternoon :eek: That was fun :nod:

Managed to damage the bumper every so slightly already :cry: but it's just a stone chip :annoyed: Might fill it and touch it up myself.

Fake Ben Taylor
09-03-2008, 22:32
search for an r32 gtr lower spoiler :) theyre not rare and would work fantasticly!;)

actually why dont i build your car:p:p

edit: its a nismo one

http://japsalon.com/Pics/Web%20Pics/32GTRNismoBootLip_small.jpg
http://www.muts-nuts.com/pics2/side2.jpg

stevec
09-03-2008, 23:06
have a look on egay...

I had 80mm pipework all the way through on my intercooler, like you said it seemed to boost quickly like yours. i was expecting loads of lag when i fitted it but it works a treat.

coming on nicely though.

/Steve

Parker
10-03-2008, 19:05
Well, the pipes and cooler flow a lot better plus the cooler's volume is smaller so I doubt there's any great change in volume.

Like the lip idea... Need to call Chris (again!) to talk about a tweak or two to the map and boost controller :wack:

Parker
12-03-2008, 23:14
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&Item=350032957728&Category=10424&_trksid=p3907.m29

Mmmm....

Fake Ben Taylor
14-03-2008, 02:34
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&Item=350032957728&Category=10424&_trksid=p3907.m29

Mmmm....

only 1400mm wide...thats weeeeeeeaaaaaaakkkkkk:p:p but seriously will look awful and a bit halfrauds spethial :(

Damo
14-03-2008, 08:16
yeah man you need 1500mm min thats what mine is!

the dw one is the same price as that one and better looking and wider

Parker
14-03-2008, 12:33
only 1400mm wide...thats weeeeeeeaaaaaaakkkkkk:p:p but seriously will look awful and a bit halfrauds spethial :(


yeah man you need 1500mm min thats what mine is!

the dw one is the same price as that one and better looking and wider

Ok, ok :p Off to DW for a look then. I thought it was so wide you needed rear arch bolt-ons to make it legal... :wack:

stevec
14-03-2008, 14:31
Ok, ok :p Off to DW for a look then. I thought it was so wide you needed rear arch bolt-ons to make it legal... :wack:

and ? you say that like it is a bad thing :p

get it sorted;)

Algie
15-03-2008, 13:51
So when you painting the car pink to go with the wing Parker? :p

JuZ
17-03-2008, 12:30
Does this mean you'll be able to stay out of the pits now when I'm on track :smash:

Parker
17-03-2008, 20:09
The pair of you can get bent :p

Parker
25-03-2008, 19:25
Smallest (and cheapest) update so far...

I got some overnight parts from Japan on my tab at Harry's :D Autobahn888 rad hoses to replace the tired standard ones which were also shortened to deal with the old rad which sat behind the FMIC. Had to order abroad because I couldn't find a UK trader who stocked black ones :(
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g81/tomparker200/P3250081.jpg

Actually, they're week-long parts from Hong Kong on my tab with Paypal but you get the idea :thumbs:

Parker
29-03-2008, 19:28
Another tiny update. No photos but I've tweaked the rear ride height as it was uneven and pissing me off!

Lynxy
29-03-2008, 21:23
keep up the good work Tom :thumbs:

Algie
31-03-2008, 16:12
Are you doing the 14th April still Tom?

Chris was saying that you'll be popping down to see him on Wednesday to tweak the map now the new IC is fitted.

It looks like I'll be on track but just not in my 200 :D

Squares
31-03-2008, 16:28
Looking really good mate, loving that pipe work, so much better than most, sadly including mine.:rolleyes:

Black hoses also look miles better than gay blue ones too.:nod:

Parker
31-03-2008, 18:26
Thanks guys :)

Black hoses FTW :cool: Just wish they were easier to get hold of. I'm convinced that no-one actually wants blue tat all over their cars once they get past the Halfords stage :no:

Ordering the biggest of BGW's ever this week :D

Evilchap
02-04-2008, 11:45
Alot of silicone hose is made to order, so you can specify colour :) There are a few places in Southampton which make it, so you can choose colour.

Parker
02-04-2008, 20:55
Found out the MOT is up so booked one up for Friday PM. Bit of a rush now as it's not strictly MOT-worthy at the moment...

Went to wire a resistor into the front indicators which are "JDM" 5w jobbies. That went Pete Tong so cheated and wired up an extra 21w bulb to the rearlight units and stashed them out of sight. Voila, normal indicator flashing again (for the first time in four years...)

Tomorrow night, it's sidelights and numberplate time. I feel a bodge or two coming on :D

Parker
04-04-2008, 14:38
Sat in the garage belonging to the guy who MOT'd it last year. He's got his own outfit now and hasn't started MOTing yet so it's going to someone I don't know :eek:

Spend the last two nights fitting sidelights, numberplate lights, front numberplate and a few other bits. Also turned down the fuel pressure to help with emissions.

Mildly crapping it as there's a crack in the windscreen I've just found, a little rust but nothing serious (AFAIK!) and possibly bad emissions...

Squares
04-04-2008, 14:39
MOT's are an arse mate, good luck.:)

Parker
04-04-2008, 15:00
I think/hope they're going to be "understanding" but not knowing them, I can't be sure :)

Getting a map tweak, posh rad hoses and little front & rear spoilers ;) fitted on Wednesday so thinking about that to take my mind off it :D

Parker
04-04-2008, 15:38
MOT-tastic :cool: :D

Scougar
04-04-2008, 15:40
You passed?

Matthew

Parker
05-04-2008, 22:13
:nod: :D

Paid for the trackday on the 14th but have a few jobs to do...

Sort misfire
Balance front wheels
Remove pad build-up on front discs
Fit splitter (need to remove undertray)
Fit silicon rad hoses (while undertray is off)
Fit this little beauty....(can you tell what it is yet?)http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g81/tomparker200/DSC00294.jpg
More pics of this to follow on Wednesday ;)

Lou
05-04-2008, 22:25
Thinking its a BGW

Parker
05-04-2008, 22:40
There's more than a few clues in this thread already :wack:

razza987
06-04-2008, 15:24
Hey Tom, how's things?
Really high level of work you're putting into this, more than most trackday preps. Good on you! But I have to ask, with the amount of money you're putting into it why don't you just go racing?
ATB,
Raz :)

Parker
06-04-2008, 15:34
It's all good (assuming the misfire etc gets sorted).

Mmm, I would like racing but I'm pushing the budget massively already :wack: Cage, slicks, petrol, entry, all the safety gear etc wold be too much. Maybe in a different car one day ;)

I get to race my boat every week and that costs sod all :D That will take up the majority of my time during the summer I suspect.

Parker
09-04-2008, 22:33
Bit of a quick update because I need sleep badly.

Wing - fitted, awesome and attracted positive attention from a young lady already
Splitter - also fitted. Works amazingly well with the wing. Really stable at high speeds
Brakes - nearly sorted, most pad build-up removed
Mis-fire - sorted by mapping. Needed lots of advance. Was running really strongly, massive power (over 300bhp for sure) and no sign of det.

All went really well until the #4 shit itself at the top of 4th during a mapping run. Dipstick blew out so oil everywhere. Lots of smoke. Bad mis-firing. Oil in the bore. Either a knackered HG or piston. Praying it's the HG but will know tomorrow.

:(

Fake Ben Taylor
09-04-2008, 22:42
:(:(

fingers crossed for you matey

Parker
09-04-2008, 22:53
Cheers Ben :)

Also, had a play with Chris' new toy, an AX22 data logger/accelarometer/g-meter thingy. We took some wind resistance readings before the splitter and wing went on and iwll repeat with them attached to see how it's changed.

He also made me do a standing 1/4 mile which came out as 14.8 seconds IIRC. Can get into the 13's without any problems with a decent start :)

Damo
09-04-2008, 22:55
cool, hope its just the HG mate

Parker
10-04-2008, 13:40
Arse :indiff: I've melted #4 piston and written off the block :annoyed:

Head's off and there's a couple of small det marks on that piston but nothing serious so it looks like it just got too hot. We were pushing the car pretty hard...

PTS have another CA with a knackered bottom end so that's apart and looks ok so my bottom end is going to be attached to that with new shells, rings and HG. That should be done today with the new parts arriving tomorrow when it'll be rebuilt and refitted then we need to map it with slightly lower boost and a tiny bit less advance to make it safer.

Might be some long days ahead as it needs to be built, mapped, tested and run in by Monday and we've got work on Chris' car to do as well...

Evilchap
10-04-2008, 13:51
Gutted for you :( If there's anything us locals can do to help just say :thumbs:

m.d.
10-04-2008, 14:19
how has it written off the block mate???

Fake Ben Taylor
10-04-2008, 15:38
Arse :indiff: I've melted #4 piston and written off the block :annoyed:

Head's off and there's a couple of small det marks on that piston but nothing serious so it looks like it just got too hot. We were pushing the car pretty hard...

PTS have another CA with a knackered bottom end so that's apart and looks ok so my bottom end is going to be attached to that with new shells, rings and HG. That should be done today with the new parts arriving tomorrow when it'll be rebuilt and refitted then we need to map it with slightly lower boost and a tiny bit less advance to make it safer.

Might be some long days ahead as it needs to be built, mapped, tested and run in by Monday and we've got work on Chris' car to do as well...

not good :( :( were they std pistons? :)

CNHSS1
10-04-2008, 17:17
for steve c and Ben
i remember seeing pics of the brushes ages ago, where did they come from? easy to get or not?

Fake Ben Taylor
10-04-2008, 17:40
for steve c and Ben
i remember seeing pics of the brushes ages ago, where did they come from? easy to get or not?

i couldnt tell you :( i just have them now sat in the garage :)

i believe they were industrial draft excluder type brushes :)

Parker
10-04-2008, 18:42
Minor updates from conversations this afternoon.

The engine and donor engines are out of the cars and in bits. The donor has a good top end. My bottom end is ok but the shells (ACL) were a bit dodgy so we've got a new set coming along with piston rings and a HG. That lot should be here tomorrow morning.

I've got the day off tomorrow and Monday morning plus Saturday for an unknown amount of time. Chris is confident of getting it done and is up for putting in the hours. He's been an absolute legend (even more than normal :eek: ) with this and that's the main reason I'm not pissed off and kicking the car :notworthy:notworthy:notworthy


how has it written off the block mate???

It's scored the #4 bore


not good were they std pistons?

:nod: It was a ND refreshed engine which had done about 45k


i couldnt tell you :( i just have them now sat in the garage :)

i believe they were industrial draft excluder type brushes :)

IIRC, that's correct :nod:

JuZ
10-04-2008, 18:46
Oh arse crisps!

stevec
11-04-2008, 08:50
That is a bummer :(

I found a company on the web that sold draught excluders for huge doors like industrial unit roller doors. they cost me about £100.
there should be plenty of info on other threads rather than crapping up this one.

I have a good CA in my Garage so if you do another one I could sell you that matey :thumbs:

/Steve

Parker
11-04-2008, 22:02
Cheers Steve, but we knocked one up this morning ;)

Bit of a timeline... 8ish - rock up at PTS to find both engines in pieces
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g81/tomparker200/2008%20Trackday%20Prep/P4110119.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g81/tomparker200/2008%20Trackday%20Prep/P4110120.jpg
Something's missing :(
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g81/tomparker200/2008%20Trackday%20Prep/P4110122.jpg

9:30ish - It was the mains, not the big ends that were iffy so we'll have some new ones please
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g81/tomparker200/2008%20Trackday%20Prep/P4110123.jpg
New block
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g81/tomparker200/2008%20Trackday%20Prep/P4110124.jpg

Just because I love it so much!
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g81/tomparker200/2008%20Trackday%20Prep/P4110125.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g81/tomparker200/2008%20Trackday%20Prep/P4110126.jpg

New pistons cleaned
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g81/tomparker200/2008%20Trackday%20Prep/P4110127.jpg

10:30ish - Pistons and new rings in
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g81/tomparker200/2008%20Trackday%20Prep/P4110128.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g81/tomparker200/2008%20Trackday%20Prep/P4110129.jpg

Parker
11-04-2008, 22:07
In between jobs I pulled the dead piston... Yep, it's fooked
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g81/tomparker200/2008%20Trackday%20Prep/P4110130.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g81/tomparker200/2008%20Trackday%20Prep/P4110135.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g81/tomparker200/2008%20Trackday%20Prep/P4110140.jpg
Little bit of det but nothing serious. Didn't hear any whilst mapping but it could've been there years...
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g81/tomparker200/2008%20Trackday%20Prep/P4110138.jpg
Daylight!
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g81/tomparker200/2008%20Trackday%20Prep/P4110137.jpg

11:30 - Block mostly together
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g81/tomparker200/2008%20Trackday%20Prep/P4110141.jpg

12:30 - Block together and turbo on
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g81/tomparker200/2008%20Trackday%20Prep/P4110142.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g81/tomparker200/2008%20Trackday%20Prep/P4110143.jpg

Bit of oil under the car...
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g81/tomparker200/2008%20Trackday%20Prep/P4110144.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g81/tomparker200/2008%20Trackday%20Prep/P4110145.jpg

4 hours from start to finish :eek: :notworthy I'd like to claim credit for this but Chris and the PTS boys did most of the graft :notworthy:notworthy

3:30 - Engine in
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g81/tomparker200/2008%20Trackday%20Prep/P4110146.jpg

Took a couple of hours to plumb it in and hook up the gearbox (their 2 poster ramp is a bitch for taking gearoxes off so the engine had to come out seperately)

Parker
11-04-2008, 22:11
5:30 - Engine fired up fine so we took it up the road for a shakedown. Promptly blew a boost hose (we're running it in race style :cool :eek: ) so we fixed that only for the oil/water heat exchanger thingy to snap :cry: Spotted the loss of oil pressure so killed the engine and coasted into the workshop entrance road. At least I have matching oil leaks on the left and right side of the bay now...

6:30/7 - Car back up on the ramps :wack: Broken thingy removed which is a bitch of a job and the one from my old block is ready to go on.

Cue another 6:30 start to get to the workshop for 8 :sleep:

More updates tomorrow hopefully :)

Fake Ben Taylor
11-04-2008, 23:02
:notworthy:notworthy:notworthy:notworthy:notworthy :notworthy:notworthy:thumbs:

SM
12-04-2008, 01:06
Thats fast :thumbs:

Now don't let that nasty det ruin this one ;)

JC
12-04-2008, 08:34
Full marks to Chris & the PTS lads :clap: :notworthy
Possibly the fastest remove,strip,rebuild & refit ever! :notworthy

Just had a look back through the thread Tom,very impressed with the way your car has evolved over the years,lots of well thought out improvements,full credit to you,Chris & all at PTS for all the hard work that's gone into it :thumbs:

Its certainly come a long way since the day we towed it to Norris's :D

fudi
12-04-2008, 12:28
well done mate its coming along nicely at least its running wish mine was like that :wack:

Parker
12-04-2008, 17:59
Now don't let that nasty det ruin this one ;)

Det didn't ruin the old one, the marks are so tiny and might have been a result of the piston melting. We've taken some timing out the map to make it safer though, don't want to push this engine as hard as the old one :no:;)


Full marks to Chris & the PTS lads :clap: :notworthy
Possibly the fastest remove,strip,rebuild & refit ever! :notworthy

Just had a look back through the thread Tom,very impressed with the way your car has evolved over the years,lots of well thought out improvements,full credit to you,Chris & all at PTS for all the hard work that's gone into it :thumbs:

Its certainly come a long way since the day we towed it to Norris's :D

Sideways Danny's done a faster removal but I don't think he planned to put the engine back :smash:

The scary thing is this thread just covers this year :eek: The last two years would be a HUGE thread :nod:


well done mate its coming along nicely at least its running wish mine was like that :wack:

It's back on track (will be literally on track on Monday) now which is good. I'm sure yours will be getting there soon :thumbs:

Parker
12-04-2008, 18:07
Right, another 6:30 start :sleep: meant we were at the workshop early. Making a nasty habbit of this!

Camera battery went flat so no photos of the offending oil filter hosing :whip: but cleaned up the block, salvaged a gasket and got the new one in.

The car was to be run in using a method for race engines so none of this poncing about on light throttle up to 3k rpm :ghey: although we did deviate from the plan slightly and fired it up on the ramps to check for leaks purely because we have no time for a breakdown.

That was all fine so I went out onto the road and gave it maximum load up to 5k rpm then backed off which is supposed to suck up oil and lubricate everything. No idea if it works but did it for 20 minutes anyway whilst staring at the guages for any sign of a problem.

That went fine so Chris sent me out to check the fuelling at the top end so I went out with the wideband display and topped it out in fourth with 25 miles under it's belt :eek: :wack: :smash:

The map was fine and the levels are still good so it's back to PTS on Monday for an oil and filter change and a trip to Brands :thumbs:

Photos of the BGW and splitter will be forthcoming but it looks hard as nails and kind of reminds me of this (if you squint...)http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/graphics/2007/02/17/mfaston1.jpg

Fake Ben Taylor
12-04-2008, 18:08
oh so you quote everyone else but ignore me!:cry:

Parker
12-04-2008, 18:16
:notworthy:notworthy:notworthy:notworthy:notworthy :notworthy:notworthy:thumbs:

Thanks Ben :p The others all said something instead of just bashing the smiley button a few times ;)

Fake Ben Taylor
12-04-2008, 18:38
Thanks Ben :p The others all said something instead of just bashing the smiley button a few times ;)

:D:D:D:D:D:D;)

igralec
12-04-2008, 19:24
my engine was ran in the same way, full load and backing off for the first 50 miles or so (with the actuator pipe disconnected :wack:), then oil change and another 1000 miles of normalish driving upto 5k rpm followed by another oil change :)

Parker
13-04-2008, 10:41
I'll do doing the distance back to PTS, changing to regular oil then going full throttle, should be almost as much fun as trying to get the dammed thing up my drive without scooping up the gravel with the splitter :wack:

sunnybono
13-04-2008, 10:58
What kinda power was it running before it let go?

Parker
13-04-2008, 11:05
I would hazzard a guess at 330-350bhp...

Parker
15-04-2008, 20:01
1 trackday down :D The car (including the newly built engine) survived an evening at Brands Hatch!

The fluid levels were good and it pulled well despite the :ghey: spec exhaust. Unsurprisingly, the Nur Spec failed the 102db noise limit in spectacular fashion with 110db... 10 minutes with the spanners and the track backbox got me through with 96db at the cost of some lag :(

The brakes were the only real problem giving judder despite being skimmed and rubbed :( I lost a lot of time so I think I'll speak to Dan about them.

Anyway, photos are what people want so here's the new aero package :cool:

Here's the money shot
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g81/tomparker200/2008%20Trackday%20Prep/P4140147.jpg

Close up
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g81/tomparker200/2008%20Trackday%20Prep/P4140148.jpg

Front splitter
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g81/tomparker200/2008%20Trackday%20Prep/P4140149.jpg

Arse shot
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g81/tomparker200/2008%20Trackday%20Prep/P4140151.jpg

Profile
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g81/tomparker200/2008%20Trackday%20Prep/P4140154.jpg

Front 1/4
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g81/tomparker200/2008%20Trackday%20Prep/P4140160.jpg

Brands Hatch Pits. The car in the background is PTS Chris'
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g81/tomparker200/2008%20Trackday%20Prep/P4140162.jpg

Fake Ben Taylor
15-04-2008, 20:05
wow really looks good!!

intercooler behind the bumper looks so much better ;)

what did they make the splitterout of? :)

Parker
15-04-2008, 20:08
Marine grade plywood , treated with two coats of something and then painted by yours truly :D

I should say that it makes the car really stable at high speed :nod: I've got loads more confidence in it now.

Sertes is now taken 15mph faster than last year which is really handy when playing with 4wds in the damp :nod:

Fake Ben Taylor
15-04-2008, 20:10
Marine grade plywood , treated with two coats of something and then painted by yours truly :D

I should say that it makes the car really stable at high speed :nod: I've got loads more confidence in it now.

Sertes is now taken 15mph faster than last year which is really handy when playing with 4wds in the damp :nod:

and thats just the front? :D:D

might be worth venting you bonnet btw as now theres no where for the air to go once its gone through your cooler and rad and as such flow through them will slow right down :)

Parker
15-04-2008, 20:21
That's both ends ;)

There's an exit flap in the undertray to feed air back out under the car when it's been through the bay but a vented bonnet would be better :nod: Here's one Chris prepared earlier ;)
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g81/tomparker200/2008%20Trackday%20Prep/P4140156-1.jpg

Fake Ben Taylor
15-04-2008, 20:35
That's both ends ;)

There's an exit flap in the undertray to feed air back out under the car when it's been through the bay but a vented bonnet would be better :nod: Here's one Chris prepared earlier ;)
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g81/tomparker200/2008%20Trackday%20Prep/P4140156-1.jpg

i know youve got a wing, i meant thats onl the front undertrayed....or did you fit a rear undertray too? :)

Parker
15-04-2008, 20:36
Doh, just the front :)

andyfield
15-04-2008, 21:08
Looks like you've made great progress Tom. Look forward to seeing it in action at some point soon.

Damo
15-04-2008, 23:29
looks great mate... glad the front spliter is working well i cant wait to get mine on

stevec
16-04-2008, 07:50
looks really nice.

now get the rear of the car sorted and you will not believe how stable it is at speed ;)

glad it has worked out ok in the end.

/Steve

TM_S13
16-04-2008, 11:24
your car is looking really good mate.
that front is awsome.

m.d.
16-04-2008, 17:50
It's scored the #4 bore


not written off but not useable on standard pistons you mean, i would keep it for future builds with oversized foregies or something.

any pics of under the front of the splitter. looks good

Parker
16-04-2008, 21:26
It was overbored when ND build it first time round so it's in the skip :wave:

No photos of underneath but it follows the bumper on the inside and is bolted on very well :nod:

Cheers for all the positive comments, makes me feel better about footing the bill (even though it's good value :thumbs: ) :wack:

Petrol
16-04-2008, 22:46
The car was to be run in using a method for race engines so none of this poncing about on light throttle up to 3k rpm :ghey:

Not a fan of this method personally :no: Car looks fantastic though :notworthy:notworthy

Parker
23-04-2008, 21:41
Not a fan of this method personally :no: Car looks fantastic though :notworthy:notworthy

Horses for courses :) With a track day looming, it was the only choice :D
Have to agree with second comment :smitten:

Courtesy of an amazing photographer friend of Juz's...
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g81/tomparker200/2008%20Trackday%20Prep/RPUK88192.jpg

m.d.
23-04-2008, 23:47
i love the look of the front of that, the bumper really looks at home there, what one is it by the way???

loev the pic too, little corsa giving the big boys a run for there money :)

Parker
24-04-2008, 18:34
The bumper only fits well if you look from a distance ;)

The Corsa was fun for the guys driving but the only person he gave a run for their money was Algie and co in the Mk2 Golf GTi (8 valve) which was another cheap track slag :D

sunnybono
24-04-2008, 19:22
Looks like you are holding that corsa up.... :D

Parker
24-04-2008, 19:23
:p

m.d.
24-04-2008, 19:57
lol, it wasnt anything special then, shame cos i love seing those things and similar on the track doing well,

Denial
18-06-2008, 21:02
Parker, what were the results of the aerodynamic tests that you did for the rear wing? Car is looking real nice btw :thumbs:

Parker
18-06-2008, 21:12
I haven't been back to do another coast-down test but I might be able to do it when I pop down there next. Thanks :)

Parker
19-11-2008, 21:16
Well I thought I'd post an update as I did some actual work on the car at the weekend :eek:

The gearchange issue that I've had appears to be down to a bolt missing from the clutch pedal assembly bracket. The bracket is bolted to the car which stops it moving about. With that loose, the bracket was moving instead of the rod which disengages the clutch.

Haven't tested it out yet as I haven't had time to charge the battery but it might be a step closer to being roadworthy again...