View Full Version : NEW - KSport 6 pot 304mm brake kit for standard S14 rims
We will soon be able to offer a KSport 6 pot brake kit using a 304mm rotor that will offer a very serious upgrade over the original set up BUT will still fit under standard S14 rims :cool: :thumbs:
The kits will sell for around £700, we have some coming now to evaluate :)
The kits will include:
Pair of 6 pot calipers
Pair of 304mm rotors
Pair of bells
Pair of brackets
Mounting kit
Braided brake lines
Fitting guide
etc
Should be sweet, more info to follow :)
I use 300zx rims for track use, would these be my best bet?
I really wanted something bigger but the tyres are so cheap :D
I wouldnt run a 450bhp car with 304mm rotors, youre asking for trouble. You will NEED bigger brakes than that, get some larger rims :nod:
Ive got 2 sets of 18's, I could use my ultralites I suppose!
Its just the cost of tyres, I suppose thats what I get for spending so much on the car, might as well not skimp!
When's the GB finishing?
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If you go for 304mm brakes then you wont be able to brake as hard as you would like on sticky tyres with 450bhp, its as simple as that.
The 304mm kits are a serious fast road kit or a track kit for Stage 1 cars and the like.
Theyre simply not suitable for the power you want to run so its irrelevent how much the bigger tyres are, you simply dont have any choice unless you want to compromise how the car performs on track.
Why not sell the 300ZX rims and one set of 18s and get some 17s fitted with sticky tyres for track work? 17s will give lower unsprung weight than 18s, theyre cheaper to buy than 18s and the rubbers cheaper :)
That's rubbish. By your reasoning my old boss' car with 560bhp had massively under-specced brakes then, with only 4pots and just under 300mm discs?
That's rubbish. By your reasoning my old boss' car with 560bhp had massively under-specced brakes then, with only 4pots and just under 300mm discs?
300mm on 560bhp????
Welll thats a bit silly isn't it!
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That's rubbish. By your reasoning my old boss' car with 560bhp had massively under-specced brakes then, with only 4pots and just under 300mm discs?
As my opinion has such little validity that you to dismiss it as 'rubbish' and you already know my viewpoint on the subject Ill not bother getting into the details and will leave it as you disagree rather than discuss further.
That's rubbish. By your reasoning my old boss' car with 560bhp had massively under-specced brakes then, with only 4pots and just under 300mm discs?
Not rubbish! Fact:nod:
How much did the old boss's car weigh and was it for road and/or track use?
That's rubbish. By your reasoning my old boss' car with 560bhp had massively under-specced brakes then, with only 4pots and just under 300mm discs?
what has that got to do with an s14a, the one thing bren has done is a lot of track time in sx's running high power, [same with SM s14a/s13 time attack ] and i would take his word on what brakes are needed and of what size as good advice:nod:
300mm on 560bhp????
Welll thats a bit silly isn't it!
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Not unless winning races is silly?
As my opinion has such little validity that you to dismiss it as 'rubbish' and you already know my viewpoint on the subject Ill not bother getting into the details and will leave it as you disagree rather than discuss further.
What details? You made a blanket statement based solely on disc OD and a power figure to sell the kit.
Not rubbish! Fact:nod:
On the basis of what scientific proof is it a fact?
How much did the old boss's car weigh and was it for road and/or track use?
Competition use, 1200kg minimum, plus fuel and driver. Avon supersoft slicks so about as sticky as you can get.
what has that got to do with an s14a, the one thing bren has done is a lot of track time in sx's running high power, [same with SM s14a/s13 time attack ] and i would take his word on what brakes are needed and of what size as good advice:nod:
So 304mm being too small must simply be a fact? Past a certain bhp figure? Simply ridiculous. Calipers, pad material, fluid, all of no consequence.
I apologise if I was too blunt, but to make such a sweeping statement that discs that diameter are too small (inside a set of 6 pots too) with quite sticky (but I assume only R888s or A048 type?) tyres is just wrong, I'm sorry. What reasons do you have for deciding this? Fade?
The temperatures reached by 330mm KSports on track with a relatively heavy, powerful car in comparison to 356mm KSports would put me off running 304mm KSports on the same or a similar vehicle.
Im not talking about any brand other than KSport, Im not talking about any vehicle with a different weight, Im not talking about any vehicle with different power, Im talking about the brand of brakes that we have tested and run at over 50 track days to date.
Maybe a lighter car running a different brakes running different pads, running different cooling solutions may have different results. I dont know. Im not commenting on any of that, Im commenting on what Ive tried and on what Ive tested.
Maybe when Ive tried and tested the 304s Ill reverse my opinion but until that time Ill extrapolate from what I know to be the case from my own testing of the products I distribute and until proven differently Im going to advise all my customers running 400+bhp with a 1300kilo car on track tyres to stay away from 304 KSports on the assumption that theyll run even hotter than 330 KSports.
Fair enough, but does that mean the performance of the 330mm kit is starting to drop off at those temperatures? What pads and fluid is that with?
Not performance really, but pad temps and therefore wear rates are higher at higher temps.
Not unless winning races is silly?
Competition use, 1200kg minimum, plus fuel and driver. Avon supersoft slicks so about as sticky as you can get.
So 304mm being too small must simply be a fact? Past a certain bhp figure? Simply ridiculous. Calipers, pad material, fluid, all of no consequence.
You seem to be taking one or two facts in isolation, not giving us a full story and therefore leaving us unable to draw any sort of conclusion.
You are on about a competition car. If you use 300mm brakes on a very powerful 200, you'd have to use such extreme pad choice that you'd have a problem come the first stop on a cold commute in the morning. I have done this on a 315mm front on a daily drive car.
You don't state what sort of competition. A Hill Climb or one fast lap does not require the same sort of stopping power over a prolonged period.
You need to post up the full details really, but I still don't see how this could hold water, as the others commenting have been there and doen it with a 200.
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