daily diet

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was just thinking of your daily intake of food, drink ect. mine is

7.00 6 x eggs, scrambled ( 3 without the egg white )
10.30 bowl of start , protein drink
1.00 2 chicken breasts & bowl salad, protein drink
3.30 bowl of start , protein drink
8.30 eve meal ( no carbs, just protein with veg )

anybody else eat like this or am i just mad ;) ;)

[Dave_S]

Only the other body builders ;)

Dave

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:o :o i hope to enter comp next year, was going to this year but got little boy due in may :D :D

[Nathan_200sx]

Breky = coffee and a fag
Lunch = slimfast shake and a fag
Dinner = usualy chicken, tuna with pasta or veg + a fag
rest of night = lots of booze and lots of fags ;)

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booze, yeh i think i had a bit once :)

[Nathan_200sx]

Originally posted by marks s13
booze, yeh i think i had a bit once :)

You one of these super fit dudnes then? I used to work with a lad who was well into body building, he came second once in the junior mr Britain, Jonathon Bulbick. He was a big fella with arms bigger than my leg :eek:

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i'm no way super fit, but i work out 5x a week. my arms are 18'', chest 46''. :D :D :D

[Nathan_200sx]

I used to have 44inch chest but sadley it slipped down to my waist :rolleyes: I'm working on putting it back where it belongs though

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should'nt take long to get it back :D ;)

[PhilMorrison]

Despite my user name, I'm not really fat :D I do weigh 16stone tho :D
I've just started training so today...

8.00 Creatine Drink
9:30 2 banana's
11:00 2 Chicken Salad Baguettes and a frenchbread pizza from Greggs.... Healthy I know :D
1:00 Creatine Drink and Protein Shake
4:00 Creatine Drink and Yohurt
7:30 Pasta And Tuna
9:00 Creatine drink and maybe Protein Shake

And more water than u'd think it possible to drink :D

Haha Edit: to add a "not" between "I'm" and "fat" :D

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i take it your loading with creatine :D i met you @ santa pod with jacko & matty. what time are you training? good luck with it :D :D i weigh 15.3 stone, when i started i was 7.5 :eek: :eek:

[PhilMorrison]

Yeah 1st week of Creatine so loading up :), any other really expensive sh!t u can recommend :rolleyes: :D
I'm doing 30mins Cardio and about an hour weights 6 days a week at the moment.

[marty_t3]

I'm on a strick diet of fags and vodka in an attempt to get back down to 12st. Anything to drop my 1/4 miles time :D

[PhilMorrison]

I've also gone from a 4 year stint of not having a day off from the beer unless I was ill, to just drinkin Friday and Saturday :) Thing is I really enjoy smoking while drinking, so I'm still smoking on the weekend aswell :rolleyes:

[Cookie]

So whats a good diet if you want to slim down.

C.

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phatty. there is loads of stuff on the market, i pay $40 for a 5kg tub of protein, last about 5 wks :eek: :eek: . i would sug to use hmb & creatine. top stuff :D :D

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Originally posted by Cookie
So whats a good diet if you want to slim down.

C.
depends on how dedicated you are. i went from 15.3 to 11.13 just on salads :mad: :mad:

[Cookie]

More of a balanced diet rather than just salad as i don't think i could handle just eating salads.

C.

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if you rearly want to, pm me what you eat & i'll sort one out for you. i know what you mean the salad thing was toooooooooo much ;)

[Nelson]

I'm 14.5 stone and have 17 inch arms. I don't take any supplements except vitamins. I ahve taken protein drinks and creatine, but don't think they make much difference. Most ppl have more than enough protein from their normal diet, and muscle growth is a relatively slow process.
I may be wrong, but that's my experience. Too much protein = fat.

If you push you body all the time, you will get into regular sticking points. Use variety and timely lay-offs for regular progress. Sometimes more is less, and that can be a difficult concept to grasp. I use the instinctive principle to train, I keep no training log - just keep mental notes of approximate weights in each exercise. Concentrate on the muscle, NOT the weight. USe only the weight necessary to train the muscle - sure, more weight = more progrss if done correctly, but don't get hung up on the weight and nothing else.

It's always harder to perform someone elses routine than your own - what does that tell you ? Variety. Shock training - the body is designed to get used to a stress. If it's from a different angle, performed in a different manner, or a slightly different exercise etc. the body can't cope as well - this means the body is more fatigued and this means you can train the body with less sets and reps and exercises, yet get more reaction from the body !

[Ant]

I used to do weight-training when I was younger but don't anymore. I.must.start.to.exercise.again.

[luke 200]

Cool, more bodybuilding/weightlifting dudes come out of the closet!:cool:

I eat:

7am - Protein Shake (chemical nutrition Promass- good stuff!)
10am- two rounds of sandwiches normally Tuna.
12:30pm- Lunch, Normally chicken and rice meal @ work canteen.
2.30pm-light snack, fruit or cereal bar for a bit of energy.
4pm- Protein shake/creatine
7pm- post gym protein shake and small dinner

Throw a few burgers in and thats about it.

I used to be fairly big,

Getting it back now- 17" arms 46" chest 34 inch waist.

Mark, What comp you thinkning of doing? I intend to do one in a few years... There is a bit of pressure to work towards one at the gym I train at.

Come on then chaps- how much can you bench?

Mine's 2 and 3/4 plates. (Two reps)
Used to be able to do Three plates so hopefully I should be back up to this by the summer.
:)

[Colin Gibson]

Quite freaky how similar interests can go with taste in cars:

Before modding motors my lifes obsession was Bodybuiliding (several top four placings at Junior Mr Scotland and West of Scotland), from 14 years old to 21 (last competition).
Still train now when time permits, but at 32 with full time job wife and 2 kids its not a priority anymore :(
At best I was 13 st 12lb ripped @ 5ft 10.

BTW, Always thought Creatine was pretty good especially after loading phase but then seemed to be less noticable on maintainance doses. But have you tried loading Glutamine. (Dorian Yates was a big fan of this stuff), IMO it is better. You can use both together but must be well spaced out to avoid them "competing for absorbtion":eek:

[Ant]

A pic of me...

http://www.monkeychops.karoo.net/mistertweakathon.html

hehe :D

[Tricky-Ricky]

Originally posted by Ant
I used to do weight-training when I was younger but don't anymore. I.must.start.to.exercise.again.

Know just how you feel mate!:D trouble is i can't do weights anymore cos me old joints cant' take it!:( :D and besides i'm getting fecking lazy!;)

[Si T]

Originally posted by Nelson
I ahve taken protein drinks and creatine, but don't think they make much difference. Most ppl have more than enough protein from their normal diet, and muscle growth is a relatively slow process.
I may be wrong, but that's my experience. Too much protein = fat.


gotta disagree with that Nelson, most peoples diets contain way too much fat and carbs. When bodybuilders want to lose weight for shows it`s the carbs that are reduced, protein intake stays high (zero carbing does make ya feel like sh1t tho)
btw I`m 15 St. 7, 5`10"..... can bench press 315 etc etc

I agree with ya on creatine tho - I`ve tried plenty of `em and never found a single ounce of benefit, plus it`s tough on your kidneys over time.

[andyf]

I'm 18 1/2 stone and can lift Matt J up off the floor, and can hurl Stuymac like a caber, or would do if he ever stayed still long enough.

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by luke 200
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Mark, What comp you thinkning of doing? I intend to do one in a few years... There is a bit of pressure to work towards one at the gym I train at.
Come on then chaps- how much can you bench?

i'm thinking of the british natural qualifiers, you got the northern champions on sunday 8th june @ manchester , or cenral championsship on 13th july @ aylesbury

:D
bench press is about 120kg @ the moment ;) ;) 1 set 12 1 set 10 1 set 8 :)

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Originally posted by Nelson
I'm 14.5 stone and have 17 inch arms. I don't take any supplements except vitamins. I ahve taken protein drinks and creatine, but don't think they make much difference. Most ppl have more than enough protein from their normal diet, and muscle growth is a relatively slow process.
I may be wrong, but that's my experience. Too much protein = fat.

If you push you body all the time, you will get into regular sticking points. Use variety and timely lay-offs for regular progress. Sometimes more is less, and that can be a difficult concept to grasp. I use the instinctive principle to train, I keep no training log - just keep mental notes of approximate weights in each exercise. Concentrate on the muscle, NOT the weight. USe only the weight necessary to train the muscle - sure, more weight = more progrss if done correctly, but don't get hung up on the weight and nothing else.

It's always harder to perform someone elses routine than your own - what does that tell you ? Variety. Shock training - the body is designed to get used to a stress. If it's from a different angle, performed in a different manner, or a slightly different exercise etc. the body can't cope as well - this means the body is more fatigued and this means you can train the body with less sets and reps and exercises, yet get more reaction from the body !
110% agree, i only train a routine (?) for 6wks the take a wk off rest, then change it to a diff routine for another 6 wks & so on.
iv'e been training for 11 years now & i've hit every sticking point you can :mad: just got keep going :D i've lost houses over the gym ( she made me choose ;) ).
size doe's not mean srength :) :)

[Si T]

Originally posted by andyf
and can hurl Stuymac like a caber, or would do if he ever stayed still long enough.

is this some warped Liverpudlian alternative to dwarf tossing?
:D

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Originally posted by Si T
When bodybuilders want to lose weight for shows it`s the carbs that are reduced, protein intake stays high (zero carbing does make ya feel like sh1t tho)

i know that feeling far to well:confused: i only have 2 carb intakes a day 1 @ 10.30 & 1 @ 3.30, i only have 10grams creatine a day & i take a month off when i run out till i start again. :)
you can spend $$$$ on supp & not get anything out of them, but i feel that i do :) IMO

[Nelson]

I'm 33 now, and feel my training is better now than it ever was. I feel that I know my body more than I did before, and I have more determination and experience. I only train twice a week, sometimes less. I train for strength as well as size. I am not very good at the bench press - I can just about bench 100kg - maybe this is becasue I have a very flat (sunken) rib cage. But, I am excellent at other exercises like lateral raises - I can hold out 40 pound dumbells horizontally at arms length and I'm 6 foot tall - try it and see how hard it is. I can do dumbell flys with ~25kg in each hand. I can do a few barbell curls with 60kg.

1 advantage of being a little older is that your younger metabolism has slowed down a little and your body is now able to put weight on more easily. Kids often find it hard to put weight on simply becasue of super-high metabolic rates. Look at all the worlds strongest men - very few are under 25, most are in their 30s and some are over 40 !

Another thing - I never had and never would use steroids - yet some people in the gym I used to go to thought I did, simply because I made rapid progress from good, hard training. Channel your aggression/passion and create something you can be proud of, which can be useful and impresses other people. I have never desired to compete, simply because I don't like the 'stripped' look. I think it is taken too far, and the images of ultra-ripped bodybuilders has put many people off bodybuilding. I also prefer to be more subtle and modest - I never wear sleeveless shirts outside the gym.

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Originally posted by Nelson
I can hold out 40 pound dumbells horizontally at arms length and I'm 6 foot tall - try it and see how hard it is. I can do a few barbell curls with 60kg.
Another thing - I never had and never would use steroids
60kg :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :mad:
STEROIDS, i thought the mods banded all the bad words.lol ;)
i never have or will take them aswell. i'm 28 so i think the best is still to come 7 i also think the ripped look is to much thats why i'm not to sure about the comps, i tried to ripp once & didnt like the way i looked. size :D :D :D :D

[Nelson]

Another point :rolleyes:

Many people think of bodybuilding as forever lifting weights in a gym, but most of the time you should be resting and relaxing and eating (not too much). Time spent in the gym can actually be minimised to only a few hours a week - that's my thoery anyway.:eek:

Lifting weights until you cannot do anymore is a quite severe stress on your body, so it need a lot of time to recover from this. If you do not allow your body to recover fully before further training, you will not grow and will probably soon be at a sticking point. I never have set specific days for training - I wait until my body feels Ok - usually 3-4 days. Your body can't fit itself into an externally imposed schedule of training. We are all different, so listen to your body.

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lifting the weights is the easy part, the diet & rest is the hardest part ;) in a year i may take up 2 months off as to fully recover from what ive put myself through :p :p my workouts are never any more than 1hr & thats if i talk:mad:
nice to see you think along the same lines nelson :D :D

[Nelson]

Originally posted by marks s13
lifting the weights is the easy part, the diet & rest is the hardest part ;) in a year i may take up 2 months off as to fully recover from what ive put myself through :p :p my workouts are never any more than 1hr & thats if i talk:mad:
nice to see you think along the same lines nelson :D :D

Too right - and I bet after that 2 months (assuming you don't abuse yourself) you will not have lost much strength or size -just a little tone which will soon be regained.;)

[PhilMorrison]

I put on alot of weight after I had an operation about a year ago (went from about 12 to 16 stone), I kinda liked the presence that I had, as part of my job is security work, so I did'nt get quite as many knifes put to my throat as I did when I was 12 stone... I was incredibly unhealthy tho, so decided I'd like to see if I could stay the same weight get rid of the beer belly, and actually be able to run for 5 mins without feelin like my lungs were about to collapse :D
I haven't really been training long enough to tell if it's gonna work, but I'm happy with my progress so far :)

I do all my exercise at home (Apart from running) I've got a bench and free weights, can any1 recommend a video or book or something that'l tell me about what exercises work particular muscles etc? I am a complete noob ;)

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FLEX, ;) some may say noooooo but the routines in the books are ok, you just change it to suit you:) i have a copy @ home what lists routines for the home :) but you WILL soon out grow that;)

[Nelson]

Buy Arnie's Encyclopedia of Modern Bodybuilding.

[Colin Gibson]

Phatty,
There are lots of books around which give the info. on basic exercises, body parts, routines and diet. Worth getting one (web search should throw up a few) for basic knowledge.
Nothing though can come close to one to one coaching/training. Actually joining a gym (serious hardcore gym not a carpets and chrome gym) and feeling the adreneline and atmosphere may take some initial 'bravery' but the changes you will make to your phsique will be amazing.:eek: :D

Actually I seem to remember that Dorian Yates (the only British Mr Olympia), trained in Birmingham, 'The Temple' I think.

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Originally posted by Colin Gibson
Nothing though can come close to one to one coaching/training. Actually joining a gym (serious hardcore gym not a carpets and chrome gym) and feeling the adreneline and atmosphere
LOL :) very true ;)

[Nelson]

http://www.exrx.net/Exercise.html

[PhilMorrison]

Thanks Guys :)

[dave_s13]

Originally posted by Colin Gibson
take some initial 'bravery' but the changes you will make to your phsique will be amazing.:eek: :D
.

Try walking up the dimly lit piss smelling stairs of a inner city leeds Thai Boxing gym for the first time, that was a bit scary.

Its the getting off your arse bit thats hardest, once you get going you'll wish you'd done it ages ago (ten years ago in my case).

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Originally posted by dave_s13
Its the getting off your arse bit thats hardest, once you get going you'll wish you'd done it ages ago (ten years ago in my case).


:D :D :D
how true is that ;)

[Imran Tunio]

I have:

1)Breakfast 2x weatabix and tea sometimes two toast
2) protein shake
3) 5 eggs and one youke 3x bread wholemeal
4) protein shake
5) Rice and chicken
6) Beans on toast(wash off all the sauce) or Tuna sandwiches
7) protein shake
8) possibly some friut


I am 6 foot weigh 92kgs I used to weigh near 98-100kgs when my training was mint, slowly slacked off, but am picking up again:) at the moment traing 5 times a week:)
Come this summer I will kick arse;)

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Originally posted by Imran Tunio
I have:

1)Breakfast 2x weatabix and tea sometimes two toast
2) protein shake
3) 5 eggs and one youke 3x bread wholemeal
4) protein shake
5) Rice and chicken
6) Beans on toast(wash off all the sauce) or Tuna sandwiches
7) protein shake
8) possibly some friut


I am 6 foot weigh 92kgs I used to weigh near 98-100kgs when my training was mint, slowly slacked off, but am picking up again:) at the moment traing 5 times a week:)
Come this summer I will kick arse;)
:eek: :eek: of pure muscle? ;)
i weigh 96kgs @ 5ft 10. would like to get to 98kgs :D :D

[Imran Tunio]

Near enough, had a visible six pack excellent arm's you could see the lines in my shoulders, horse shoe triceps;) I was almost there, god knows why I have slcked off in the last 3 years, slowly getting back to where I was:)
Gonna have to do legs, squats today:mad:

[Imran Tunio]

Diet is very important guy's

Always drink plenty of water
Don't drink beer excessively
wash off the sauce of beans
don't eat mayo
use olive oil instead of other oils
eat wholemeal bread
have some decent cereal in the moring
don't eat too much carbs late at night
eat food as natural as possible, processed food is junk
eat plenty of friut rather than plenty of choclate
read the lablel's of the food you buy!
Above all have a well balanced diet and a good nights sleep
don't be an arse and train chest 5 days a week and neglect you legs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Originally posted by Imran Tunio
Near enough, had a visible six pack excellent arm's you could see the lines in my shoulders, horse shoe triceps;) I was almost there, god knows why I have slcked off in the last 3 years, slowly getting back to where I was:)
Gonna have to do legs, squats today:mad:
:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: im nearly @ that stage, just got work the six pack ( or 4 pack in my case :( ).
did legs yesterday :mad: :mad:

[Nelson]

Squats are a killer - but a really good, important exercise. I like to do hack squats because you don't need stands and a spotter(s).

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Originally posted by Nelson
Squats are a killer - but a really good, important exercise. I like to do hack squats because you don't need stands and a spotter(s).
i do both :(

[Nelson]

Originally posted by marks s13
i do both :(

you mean hacks with free weights - a barbell ?

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hack machine with free weights, ;)

[Imran Tunio]

I just squat at the moment, also do seated leg press, calf raises, sometimes leg extensions......
These harcore exercises give you a fecking massive diaphram, you have been warned!
deadlifts also give you a big dirty diaphram, can look strange
:confused:

[Imran Tunio]

free weights is always the best way to train:) I only use machines when I have too:rolleyes:

[Nos]

Originally posted by marks s13
i'm no way super fit, but i work out 5x a week. my arms are 18'', chest 46''. :D :D :D

I belive The Daily Sport are after new talent :D

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Originally posted by Nos
I belive The Daily Sport are after new talent :D
;) ;) :p

[Nos]

Not that i read The Daily Sport of course you know :p

[Clong]

I have a similar diet to you guys, used to take training very seriously when i was at uni, with competion my aim. Have eased of in the time at the gym and seen bigger gains from it.

Claim to fame here is, i used to train alongside/with Charles Clairmont and Eddie Abo (spelling?) when they trained at St Albans. The bloke i trained with was Mr East Coast for a while, he sorted my knee joints out after stuffing them at rugby (His advice? Squats, and don't spare the weight).

Protein i have been using is the EAS stuff, seems okay but a bit pricey. Have tried creatine and HMB, not had a great deal of joy from either of them, but each to their own. Best advice i ever had regarding steroids was "If your not going to compete, don't do them"

Read somewhere (probably Arnold Swartzena....Swartzen...(oh borrocks, you know who i mean) bodybuilding encyclopedia) that bodybuilding is 30% trainnig, 70% diet. I say it is nearer 10% training and 90% diet

Mark s13, where do you get your protien from, thats seems like a good price.

[Imran Tunio]

woohoo, so many bodybuilders:)

A lot of people talk rubbish with regards to steroid use. Firstly a lot of men don't have the guts to admit they use ita sthey are scared of being branded a cheat!!!

Ina ctual fact going on steroids is very very very hard work you have to train extremely hard.

Most people fall for the media bull$hit and "roid rage" crap. In fact Nandralone is widely used amongst all sorts of atheletes. There are many dangerous steroids out there I know for a fact!!! but there are other that are not so bad.

Drinking 10-15 pints of beer is hard on the kidney's but I know a few friends of mine go out and drink like a fish and think nothing of it. They smoke 20 fags a day and eat greasy burgers for breakfast lunch and dinner.

However, if you use steroids you are a looser/cheat etc etc. So far I haven't used them but I have no problem in admitting that I I wanted to use them I would not hide the fact that I took steroids.

I think a lot of people need to read the real fact on steroid use.

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Originally posted by Clong
I have a similar diet to you guys, used to take training very seriously when i was at uni, with competion my aim. Have eased of in the time at the gym and seen bigger gains from it.

Claim to fame here is, i used to train alongside/with Charles Clairmont and Eddie Abo (spelling?) when they trained at St Albans. The bloke i trained with was Mr East Coast for a while, he sorted my knee joints out after stuffing them at rugby (His advice? Squats, and don't spare the weight).

Protein i have been using is the EAS stuff, seems okay but a bit pricey. Have tried creatine and HMB, not had a great deal of joy from either of them, but each to their own. Best advice i ever had regarding steroids was "If your not going to compete, don't do them"

Read somewhere (probably Arnold Swartzena....Swartzen...(oh borrocks, you know who i mean) bodybuilding encyclopedia) that bodybuilding is 30% trainnig, 70% diet. I say it is nearer 10% training and 90% diet

Mark s13, where do you get your protien from, thats seems like a good price.

i think that bodybuilding is 5% in the gym & 95% diet & rest. i get my protein from the gym i go to, its good stuff prob the best i've used;) & i've had the lot:p

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Originally posted by Imran Tunio
woohoo, so many bodybuilders:)


:D :cool: :cool: :cool: :D

[Vipers]

When i was @ college (about 2 yrs ago) after a while i ended up going to the gym every breakfree period i had. so usually lunch and a free period or 2 a day by the end of it i was benching the lot 200lbs with ease. most i pushed out in 1 set was 36 me mate done 55!!!(mechanical was all we had but was high resistance and failry high weight) i recon i could have done maybe 3 reps of 250lbs not much more than that but 200lbs was max.

i recon i could prolly just manage to do 2 reps of 300lbs maybe a bit more on bench

but after college got a programming job and put on 2 stone in 2 months of cheese and no gym slowly put on another stone and now ( work some where else) i have been for last year going to the gym failry regulariy and recently last few months been going religously noticed great imporvement.,

i weigh 14st dead at mo but got upto 14st 8 lbs but have been ill recently and just been ill again so no gym till next week :mad:

we don't have a proper bench ( im using a what u calle dit earlier?? carpet and chrome gym) got a mechanical chest press i can do a fair few reps of 95kgwhich is about 215 lbs (guestimate)

work out consisits of:
2-3 mile bike ride @ 20mph+
the following are 3 sets of 7 using 22.5 kg each hand
45%ish incline dumbell press
30%ish incline dumbell press
15%ish incline dumbell press

then 3 sets of 7 using 17.5 kg ion each hand doing flies

then roughly 40kg 3 x 10 on the pec deck

35 kg barbell curls 3 x 6

25 kg tricep pull down thign 3 x 8

conectration becep curls using 12.5 kg 3 x 7 each arm

25 kg tricep pull down thign 3 x 8

then lots of stomachy stuff depending how i feel.
thats usually monday

tuesdays the same except for instead of arms i do lats and back
and thursday same as monday

very rarely do any leg excerises haven't found a mahcine that i can't rep fully weight on fairly easily. i wud do barbell squats but biggest bar is 35 kg!

and im too scared to go into the... sorry if this offends anyone its not meant to offend.... the big black body builders gymbit once i have maxed out the weights in the carpet and chrome and got the reps on max weight upto 12 reps then i'll move into the big black body builders gymbit.

what creatine and protein supps do u recommend looked in (don't shoot) boots otherday @ the creatine and the protein shakes in there for 200g of creatine stuff is £20!! and £10 500g of protein stuff

recommendations of stuff to get and from where and what price

currently im 14st & 6ft

right arm is 15.25"
left arm is 14.57"

any ideas on how to even the odds??

chest is 44"-45" ( strangley my left boob is more shapely and bigger and stronegr than my right boob, go figure!!)

34-36" waist

i think cuz my right arm is stronger than my left my left boob makes up for the lack of strenght in my left arm, sound reasonable?

[Vipers]

also while im here anyone know where to get some decent vitamin E cream to get rid of those damned stretch marks on my arms!!

[Imran Tunio]

just got to boots/superdrug or the like and get a vitamin E mosturiser. There are loads on the market:)

The black bodybuilder thing is stereotypical image= bull$hit, don't be intimidated.

[Vipers]

no but seriously it is, only seen 2 white faces in there! not intimidated cuz of colour or what not. just cuz they're all so damn huge!!

[Ant]

What about some of this...

http://www.housegymnastics.com/

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Originally posted by Vipers

i recon i could prolly just manage to do 2 reps of 300lbs maybe a bit more on bench
right arm is 15.25"
left arm is 14.57"
any ideas on how to even the odds??
chest is 44"-45" ( strangley my left boob is more shapely and bigger and stronegr than my right boob, go figure!!)

i can bench press 350lb on a "machine" bench press ;) but you try that on free weights :mad: .
my left arm was bigger too & i got told to concentrate (?) on the left & it will catch up with the right :) my arms are BOTH now 18" :D :D. not sure regards your chest, it might be as you say making up for the weaker arm, if this is the case then they will all balance out in the end. ;) :)

[Colin Gibson]

Vipers
Train your whole body,(legs and all), free weight exercises ie. barbells and dumbells, forget machines
Keep it simple, three workouts a week to begin with (four maximum), split body parts each time: 1chest & arms, 2back and shoulders, 3 Legs, (or somthing similar)
Only about two maybe three exercises for each part and then only two sets (not including warm up set,sets: very important)
This will make for a short work out, 40 mins tops, but:
-You will have more energy to break down tissue
-You will get stronger quicker and use more weight
-You wont dread the Gym
-You wont suffer depleated Testosterone levels which occur when training over 45mins (particularly if you are natural: ie. no drugs)

Best/only supplements really worth bothering with : Whey protein, Creatine, Glutamine. Also Vit min tab. and Flax/cod liver/primrose oils (for Omega 3 + 6, very important)

A great company for Bulk buying Protein,Glutamine,Creatine etc. (much cheaper than Holland & Barret or Boots etc.) is:
Nutrisport 01942519111, they do a good Telephone order and deliv. service.;)

[Vipers]

what i try for is super sets maily cuz that has been working real well.

i don't dread the gym @ all its what i look forward to. its just that soon i'll be having to move into the big bu66ers gym cuz soon i'll be maxing out on the weights in the chrome and carpet.

i'll only start doing legs once i go into the big bu66ers gym simply cuz there's no point in me doing the wieghts in chrome adn carpet cuz even with maximum wieght the excersises aren't effective enoough. ( i used to on a machine leg press do 3 x 12 on 200kg going right down to 90dg bend as well) heavbiest weight i've legged pressed was 560 lbs @ a different gym and i mamaged to do 3 x 8 reps on that and that wasn'#t much of a problem. just need to get on to doing some decent squats in chrome and carpet barbell only goes to 35 kg which is a silly pidley weight for my legs.

"-You wont suffer depleated Testosterone levels which occur when training over 45mins (particularly if you are natural: ie. no drugs)"

i don't feel camp after my 1.5 hr work outs, am i supposed to ??:rolleyes: ;)

"Train your whole body,(legs and all), free weight exercises ie. barbells and dumbells, forget machines"

the only thing i use machiens for are, pec deck after my intense free weight chest routine and lat pull down and tricep pull down

all the other excersies i do are on free wieghts or using my weight for the resistance

[Colin Gibson]

Yes, I often found supersetting a good method, constant change (every 6 weeks or so), is really the way to go though with regard to exercises used.

The Idea of training hard,intensely but short is one used by a lot of pros nowadays (different from the older Arnold style 2 hour marathons), and theres quite a lot of evidence to back up its effectiveness, especially for natural trainers

My friend/ex training partner (current Mr Scotland NABBA, Mr Europe WABBA), uses a slightly advanced form of this.

In any case try the supplement company if you plan to go that road since they are very cost effective (I should know after the thousands £££ Ive spent, often wasted, over the years);)

Good Luck with your training!:)

[andyf]

Wow some of you guys are really committed - good to see!

Personally I love squats - gives me a nice, "worked my ass off" feeling at the end of it. Not so great is the feeling later on / the next day when I can hardly push the clutch pedal in. However I tend to hurt my quadriceps fairly easily, and that picture of someone prolapsing that's doing the rounds is not particuarly nice :o

PS. the stuymac-caber thing - yes, not many s14 driving dwarfs around so stuy was the obvious choice :D props to stuy tho - I think after seeing him run he could make a good impression in the 100 metres :D

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"OBSESSED" is a word always being said to me :mad: :mad:
no, im just dedicated :)
keep up the good work peeps & one day might be able to have our own comp @ billing ;) ;)

[Nelson]

don't be intimidated by big men at big gyms. Most of them are nice guys and they won't be laughing at you - remember they were like you once. Some may give you help/tips. You could even ask their advice, and most will be pleased to offer help/tips. Compliment them, and they will love it. If you train sensibly (ie. progressively, not killing yourself in a rushed attempt to catch up to them) they will respect you for that, NOT your lack of size.

It's usually the ones who lack the dedication/commitment who would resort to childish behaviour and they probably are not big enough to mock and won't be around for long anyway! Be confident that you will have the last laugh - the thing with weights is you get out what you put in. No-one can hold you back - it's up to you to show people what you can achieve.

There's nothing like personal achievement to put a smile on your face.

HTH;) :)

[vega]

Sorry to dig this topic up from the depths again.

I am 6 ft 2" skinny but fat mutha fuwka, who weighs in at 14st, and can hardly do a pressup :rolleyes:


I want to get big, so have started at a gym with a mate of mine who is quite big :) I never realised ho weak I am :(

I am severely lacking in the chest department, and benching 45k is a struggle :D

What dop you lot recommend? I am dedicated by the way, this ain't a passing phase, its just my mate has finally dragged my sorry ass to the gym, which is full of free weights and meat heads :)

I train chest on mondays, back on tuesdays, shoulders on wednesdays, legs on thursdays, and bi's/ tri's on fridays.

Need to sort a good diet out and what supplements if any do you recommend? (seems to be a lot of mixed views)

By the way, luke mentioned lifting weights measured by "plates". What exactly does one plate weigh :rolleyes:

Sorry for all the dumb ass questions :)

Vince

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Hi vega, you've done the hardest part by going :D :D every one has started with light weights, i started benching with only 15kgs :eek: :eek: :eek: i can now do 310lb (147kgs) but have been training for 10 yrs. i'm sure this has been said, but dont be put of by others, they were @ the same stage as you @ some time :) 99% of them will be more than glad to help out. Yr spit routines are good ;) all plates weigh diff, 1kg, 2.5kg, 5kg, 10kg ect.( or there in lbs :confused: ). people have diff veiws on supp cause some people dont feel the full effect of them :) . hope this helps. good luck :D :D

[Colin Gibson]

As above, split routine is best,
say, Mond:chest + back, Wed:legs, Friday: shoulders + arms (try to seperate shoulder and chest days as much as poss. for better recovery)
Less is more ie. short workouts 8 to 10 reps a set, heavy as poss.(but lots of light warmups for each muscle group at start), Train really hard but short, (insane aggression really helps on heavy sets!), loads of rest in between,
Lots of good quality food, dont be afraid to take an extra rest day if you need it
This is when you grow!


Plates: usualy refers to 20kg disks (ie two plates a side on an olympic bar = 100kg), but you can get 25kg and even 50kg plates as well as all the little ones.
The amount of weight you use is only relevant to yourself at this stage, comparisons with guys who have trained for years is pointless, (BTW you generally make your biggest gains comparit. speaking in first two years of training)

So much Sh!t is talked about supplements in this game (much worse than even car modding), magazine articles etc. try to blind you with pseudo science, use all your power to ignore it! (difficult when you want results fast),
Real stuff is simple stuff ie. building blocks of muscle = Protein (and some related amino acid supplements), vitamin/minerals and fish/omega oils. (other than that only steroids and growth hormone actually work)

Whey Protein, Creatine, Glutamine (very good but expensive), high quality strong Vit/min tab, Flax oil/fish oil/omega6 + 3 oil capsules.

Holland and Barret sell these bits and bobs but there are cheaper sources, especially if you get serious and want to keep stocked up.;)

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Originally posted by Colin Gibson
Plates: usualy refers to 20kg disks (ie two plates a side on an olympic bar = 100kg), but you can get 25kg and even 50kg plates as well as all the little ones.
:o :o :o oppps did i say 10 years or 10 mins;) .
one thing i would say is that its the form what matters not how much you do it with ;) the weight will come later :) :)

[Colin Gibson]

Originally posted by marks s13
:o :o :o oppps did i say 10 years or 10 mins;) .
one thing i would say is that its the form what matters not how much you do it with ;) the weight will come later :) :)

Respect to anyone who has experience, good bench press BTW!;)

I would agree, always form before weight.

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Originally posted by Colin Gibson
Respect to anyone who has experience, good bench press BTW!;) I would agree, always form before weight.

Thanks:D took me long enough to get there but i'm well chuffed with it ;) :)

[luke 200]

Originally posted by vega
Sorry to dig this topic up from the depths again.

I am 6 ft 2" skinny but fat mutha fuwka, who weighs in at 14st, and can hardly do a pressup :rolleyes:


I want to get big, so have started at a gym with a mate of mine who is quite big :) I never realised ho weak I am :(

I am severely lacking in the chest department, and benching 45k is a struggle :D

What dop you lot recommend? I am dedicated by the way, this ain't a passing phase, its just my mate has finally dragged my sorry ass to the gym, which is full of free weights and meat heads :)

I train chest on mondays, back on tuesdays, shoulders on wednesdays, legs on thursdays, and bi's/ tri's on fridays.

Need to sort a good diet out and what supplements if any do you recommend? (seems to be a lot of mixed views)

By the way, luke mentioned lifting weights measured by "plates". What exactly does one plate weigh :rolleyes:

Sorry for all the dumb ass questions :)

Vince


Yep when I said 2 &3/4 plates I was refering to 2 20kg and 1 15kg weight/s each side of an olympic bar which is 130kg(286lbs)

I can do it for 3 reps now.
I normally use around 100kgs as a training weight though, about 10 reps per set.:)

Supplementation is the key.. Protein intake is paramount, try and get at least 1 gram of protein per pound of bodyweight per day.

Your training split looks good... You'll be massive in no time!

[vega]

Cheers Guys :)

[dtmpower]

I am currently moving into my new house, its got a spare room which is going to have a weights bench that I already have, but havent used for ages....basically , should I also get a indoor cycle or stick with my road bike , a reasonable racer.

I am just under 6ft , weight is about 95kgs , feeling the affects as I was once 82kgs...I basically got some muscles and put on some weight , but a year ago stopped , now the worst bit is the gut.

So , can someone point me into a new routene for when I get in my new house...as I will easilybe able to do "something" everyday.

I am 23 and also member of local "health club" but recently have never been......starting to think I will be able to train at home , but max weight and no means of doing squats etc may still make it worth it...can anyone decifer what I have said and make some sensible reply ?

Thanks
:)

[RICE BURNER 01]

mmmmmmmm,,somthin must be wrong, im6"4" nearly 19 stone,today ive had 2 rounds of jam on toast and about 10 cups of coffee.thats about normal,my cal intake is around 1350>1600 per day,is there anything i can take to speed up my metabolism,

[piehound]

stopped going the gym when they closed they bar and the cafe and took the fag machine out
barstewards

pie