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I know some of you guys on here have bikes so maybe you can explain something to me.
I have been known to tailgate other cars. I know I shouldn't but I do. I think when we are in our cars we get a feeling of security with protection around us. Surely that isn't the same on a bike though. I have been on the back of several big bikes and I have never felt protected in any way. Yet bikes do tailgate, isn't it scarey in any way?
I just took the dog out for a drive (she loves being in the car) because I've hurt my leg and can't walk her. A bike pulls up behind me and stays about 1 foot from the back of the car. So I'm going down the road with this bike on my ass and the dog in the back going psyco at the back window. :rolleyes: He then flies past me (past a primary school) and ends up behind someone else (overtaking them on a blind bend at the brow of a hill).
Do you get the same feeling of security on a bike? :confused:
Guy must be suicidal. Had one also the other day: flicked my brake lights for a second:D which scared the sh.. out of him/her. Very amusing that. Of course, he raced by me minute later.
Personally, tailgating bikes is my favourite entertaining on motorways. Somehow they never expect cars to keep up with them, let alone overtake:mad: :mad:
I too have found bike tailgating to be a problem in the past couple of years or so. The type that do it though, from my experience, are the middle aged BMW car owner types who have a bike purely as a hobby. They don't seem to realise the danger they place themselves in.
If you want to get your onw back, let the bike past and then tailgat him 6 inches from his back wheel. I had a guy do that to me on the motorway some years ago and can assure you it scrared the sh!t out of me big style. My pillion subsequently smashed her lid through his side window when he eventually pulled up though, so be prepared for consequences :)
Had I been in th Nissan I would have had a play. ;)
I had the dog in the car so I don't mess around with her. Plus the beemer isn't as quick as the 200. :(
Never mind, it is sunny so I can go out and get the dog snot and slobber off the rear window. :rolleyes:
Originally posted by Vronsky
Personally, tailgating bikes is my favourite entertaining on motorways.
Twit :rolleyes: :(
The problem I have with this is you become scared to brake incase you end up with a bike through your back window!
I suppose that the theory is that they're only there momenteraly? Still doesn't seem safe to me though. Some bikers tailgate but aren't actually directly behind your car (they are closer to the centre line of the road). This is a bit more sensible.
My 2p,
Dunc.
Originally posted by JB
The type that do it though, from my experience, are the middle aged BMW car owner types who have a bike purely as a hobby.
I live next door to one of them. 5 series beemer and just bought a Ducati. ;) :D
Mike Martin
12-02-2003, 08:42
I'm not quite sure what this thread is about as with 20 years riding experience, I've probably tailgated no more than 5 times and then for not more than a few seconds at a time.
Hayley what you probably experienced was either a young rider with little experience or someone who was in a genuine hurry. OR of course he might've just liked your dog:D
Dunc, Quite right, try flashing brake and/or fog lights if rider has any brain he/she should pull back.
As to tailgating bikes, I am familiar with this and other forms of annoyance, which is why I carry several larger tools in my pockets while riding. It is quite amazing the damage that can be caused when a hammer falls out of your pocket, whilst you are being panicked by a car driver's harrassment. Wouldn't dream of damaging my expensive crash helmet on some t*ssers windows.
Mike
Don't get me wrong, I'm not having a go at bikers.:)
I just wondered if you feel the same sense of protection as you do in a car. In a car you are surrounded but on a bike there is nothing.
I doubt he liked the dog. She is not at her most loveable when she has teeth bared and is barking and growling and digging at the window. ;)
Hayley.
By the way Mike, you forgot another option. The guy could just be a twat. ;)
bond_200
12-02-2003, 09:16
Originally posted by Vronsky
Personally, tailgating bikes is my favourite entertaining on motorways.
You cool person.
Tailgating cars does not give u a sense of security, I have only done it a few times and that was just after I passed my test and got my bike. The driver sensibly touched his brakes and I realised that I was too close so backed off instantly. On the other hand i find alot of ******s in cars tailgate the shit out of me when I riding sensibly through 30mph zones. They must expect bikers to speed through every street :confused: I think I might hammer the shit out of the next twats car that does it in fact :) But as you say Hayley there are obviously bikers that are just dickheads.
Originally posted by bond_200
You cool person.
Before we get too cross with Vronsky, it's worth bearing in mind that he's only displaying a national trait.
I spend a lot of time driving in France, most of it on motorways. Now, I don't hang about as some of you may know, but I regularly find myself being flashed to pull over when going well over the ton. Quite often on the 2 lane Autoroutes of north eastern France I find that I'm pulling over only to be overtaken by a dutch registered BMW or Merc, pulling a loaded trailor (or sometimes even a caravan).
Now a nation that sees no problem with doing 130mph with a caravan in tow isn't going to think twice about the consequences of tailgaiting a motorbike is it? It's just clean, innocent, fun!
Tricky-Ricky
12-02-2003, 09:28
Originally posted by Mike Martin
I'm not quite sure what this thread is about as with 20 years riding experience, I've probably tailgated no more than 5 times and then for not more than a few seconds at a time.
Hayley what you probably experienced was either a young rider with little experience or someone who was in a genuine hurry. OR of course he might've just liked your dog:D
Dunc, Quite right, try flashing brake and/or fog lights if rider has any brain he/she should pull back.
As to tailgating bikes, I am familiar with this and other forms of annoyance, which is why I carry several larger tools in my pockets while riding. It is quite amazing the damage that can be caused when a hammer falls out of your pocket, whilst you are being panicked by a car driver's harrassment. Wouldn't dream of damaging my expensive crash helmet on some t*ssers windows.
Mike
Well said mate! i to have riden bikes for more years than i care to remember, and i genral found that the average car driver has little respect for the very vunerable bike rider!! admitedly there are some real dangerous tosers riding bikes! but unfortunatly there are far more driving cars!! some of which i have had to pull over and have words with!;) and as for Vronsky's comment all i can say is don't let me see you do it!!:mad:
Amdathlonuk
12-02-2003, 09:48
Or you can do what I do......
A bike was tailgating me the other day...
It's very wet and we come to a big roundabout onto a slip round.
Lights are red, he is beside me.
Lights go green so he goes a bit I do the same...on the outside.
As I've got 4WD and 2 turbos, leave him standing.!!!!:eek: :D
Now that's really funny, he was really shocked...
:D :D
bond_200
12-02-2003, 10:22
50cc bikes don't count mate ;)
I think everyones missing the point here...........................
Hayley takes her dog for drives!! thats fipping brilliant!!!
instead of the dog bringing his leash to you, he finds the car keys and gives them to you!!! :D :D :D
Jas, that makes me sound really weird. ;)
The dog loves it in the car. You take her out (either for a drive around or for a run) and when you get home and open the boot, she lays in the back corner and won't get up. You literally have to drag her out. :rolleyes:
If she hears the beemer keys (she knows the difference), she runs up and down to the front door howling and barking. :D If you get in the beemer, she thinks she is going somewhere. I swear she thinks it's her car.
Hayley,
I have an bike and will occasionally be close to the car in front in anticipation for an overtake. If I'm not just about to overtake, it is a lot more relaxing to stay a comfortable distance behind.
I personally don't feel in (excessive - (this is biking after all)) danger, because, being higher than a car, I can see what the car sees. But it is more risky.
The way I view it is I am happy to assume that no car ever sees me, and am pleasantly surprised when many of them move to the side to help me overtake. I have rarely experienced any malicious behaviour - .... Bit Dumb -Yes, Aggressive - No.
So yes, I feel safe in all conditions except when it is dark & wet, where Bike brakes are cr@p, and cars are steamed up, and struggle to see bikes.
If you want to annoy a biker. When he's next behind you, put on your washers - HaHa. Yes. Isn't that funny. Also press the brake pedal (GENTLY!) with your left foot, and floor it so the biker hits the brakes hard (unexpected), ehile you hit the throttle, gives you about a 0.0005second headstart on him :) ...And then He'll woop yer.
I think most bikers who sit on your tail, usually off to one side for safety are just looking to overtake.
And weirdly, I felt MUCH safer at the TSC doing 158mph on the bike, than the 150mph in the car
Just one thing with cars. Please indicate, that's all I have nightmares about.
Originally posted by Hayley
Jas, that makes me sound really weird. ;)
Sooooo you're saying that you're not?????
;) :p :D
Yingtong
12-02-2003, 14:57
In response to your question
"I just wondered if you feel the same sense of protection as you do in a car. In a car you are surrounded but on a bike there is nothing."
The answer is no.....even draped in half an acre of cowhide and kevlar....but as time passes and you become more settled with the fact that "if i come off and its gonna hurt me.....and my wallet!!".
I assume as you dont do this thing very often that were not wearing the correct safty gear (ie-: Full leathers in the correct size, as well as boots gloves and of coarse your own helmet), as an experienced biker (CBR1100XX Blackbird@170bhp+ through one wheel) i would feel totaly unprotected and alien without the right gear on too.
As for "I just took the dog out for a drive (she loves being in the car) because I've hurt my leg and can't walk her. A bike pulls up behind me and stays about 1 foot from the back of the car. So I'm going down the road with this bike on my ass and the dog in the back going psyco at the back window. He then flies past me (past a primary school) and ends up behind someone else (overtaking them on a blind bend at the brow of a hill).
This is wrong but sometimes i have been in that situation (more by fate rather than choice or desire) and hate to see my mates doing it, but the truth is probably...
A.....Your in my way.....move!!!!!!!( move over a foot and i can pass without crossing that slippy white line).
B....Peekaboo im here just in case you didnt notice/see me.
C... Look its a bird driving...i bet she is impressed with my manhood....sorry motorcycle.
D...from your point of view he was not as close as you thought (1 foot leaves no room for error by either party and a good biker always need an escape route for almost every situation).
E.. he's/she is probably pretty new to biking (or net fell off yet).
F...he's a dime bar.
G..he's a double dime bar for doing it by a school!!!!!.
H.he's a dime bar.
And yes before anybody calls me a hypocrite....i am guilty of some of the above and at times go far to fast
.......soooooo.........hard..........must.....figh t..........urge......to.......crank .......it...open.......a....little ......more.........so ..........much.....speeedddddd.....yeeeee haaa (said like James T Kirk@190mpsomthings) but as you will understand by the fact you own a 200 ...Its all about the BUZZZZZ
.....................Long live going fast (in the right places)....................
Originally posted by Wak
Sooooo you're saying that you're not?????
;) :p :D
:p :p :p :p :p
Not on Wednesdays. ;) :D
Thanks for the replies anyway. I was in no way having a go at bikes, I just wondered.
I usually do pull over for bikes but with a very pissed off German Shepherd going ballistic in the boot I didn't think about it. :rolleyes:
Yingtong
12-02-2003, 16:49
Didnt think you were having a go....no probs
Wouldnt like my Shepard going bannanas in the back of my 200 either
It wasn't the 200. :eek: :eek: :eek:
She isn't allowed near that. She has the beemer. :D
AshT_200
12-02-2003, 16:55
I guess that we must state that it is the majority of bikers who give the minority a bad rep :rolleyes: (or is that the other way round ;))
My own personal opinion of bikers is ******* *******. That is because of the attitude of the bikers from around where I live.... Whereas BMW drivers know they own the road, our bikers know that others know they own the road.
They tail gate, scrape cars as they pass between queues, overtake at the most ridiculous of places on the road.. as if they don't care for their own safety, let alone the rest of the public.
A few weeks ago, I saw one jump traffic lights and hit a car... (I bet the car driver was labelled at fault.)
My own fave, is to let them tailgate and when they are at optimum range and the trajectory is right :D Flame them... if they burn, they burn thats my attitude, they shouldn't have been so close. Or drop a gear or 2, they won't see the brake lights. :mad:
There was this time when a bike kept overtaking then slowing down, so I'd overtake again. The last time I saw him, his bike was flying over a hedge into a field, with him following closely behind :D He lost it on a bend, whilst I was overtaking. :)
But as I said, not all bikers are like this, only the ones I've experienced.....
Except the guys on Wings. They are never a problem. :)
Yingtong
12-02-2003, 16:59
Theres not enough room in the back for yorkie let alone my creature...would make parking with the windows open a lot safer though.....lol
Bikers, like car drivers, you get 99% that are fine, and the occasional @rse who gives the rest a bad rep. Ive the upmost respect for bikers, basically cos i havent got the guts (or im not stupid enough!!) to get a bike!!:eek:
Hayley, thats not really wierd, thats actually brilliant!! if i had a dog id actually train it to do what yours does! :D
And it actually knows NOT to get in the nissan. Thats one clever pooch;)
Teach it to drive and your laughing girl!!
Jas
AshT_200
12-02-2003, 17:12
Originally posted by Will
I think most bikers who sit on your tail, usually off to one side for safety are just looking to overtake.
Except the ones who sit behind to the left on a single carriageway. They're just asking to be flamed :D
AshT_200
12-02-2003, 17:14
Originally posted by Yingtong
A.....Your in my way.....move!!!!!!!( move over a foot and i can pass without crossing that slippy white line).
So when did you own the road? ;)
Chris_Lacey
12-02-2003, 17:43
A little courtesy goes a long way. I had a play with a bike and we were having loads of fun, then some twat in a Vectra decided to pull out on a DC without looking in his mirrors... Almost hit the bike, and very nearly hit me... I overtake him and then brake and the bike procedes to undertake and overtake the offending repmobile for the next 5 minutes :) :)
Bike gave me a cheery wave when he got to his junction, and I felt all the more superior for bringing justice to the road. (Okay, it was shameless punishment!), but me and the biker had fun :)
Personally, I think we should all have a bit more respect for bikers, that nasty feeling when you cross hatchings in the wet happens to them a lot lot more, and they still ride their crotch rockets, for the same reason that we mod our cars, speeed. They are the same as us, if just a little more insane! (Mr Carter excluded of course)
Nismo_Freak
12-02-2003, 17:44
I was driving down the highway at about 5 mph above everyone elses speed. This guy on a Ducati decides to turn the highway into the Indy 500 and I see him weaving his way through traffic. He gets right up on my ass (literally about 1-2 ft. off the bumper). So I downshift into 3rd and lift the throttle going about 70mph. He suddenly locks up the front and does a bit of a weave. Gets up along side of me and flicks me off. Now this tells me he is a complete idiot. Guy + Bike = 500 lbs. max ... 240SX + Me = 2900 lbs. and this idiot is flicking me off on the highway?! LOL... I really had to restrain running him into the wall at 80mph. He had no where to go either. I doubt the bike would react fast enough if I did turn into him.
Dont get me wrong... I own a R1 now and I ride it sometimes but I still know my place on the road food chain. I'd be like a 240SX trying to cut off a semi... there are somethings you just dont do.
AshT_200
12-02-2003, 17:52
Originally posted by Nismo_Freak
I really had to restrain running him into the wall at 80mph. He had no where to go either.
Now that would have been real INDY 500 realism :D
Edited for me being a prat :rolleyes:
AshT_200
12-02-2003, 18:16
Originally posted by Pete C
If I'm sitting too far over to the right for a biker to overtake, then it's probably because I don't think it's safe for him to overtake without possible injury to other road users or myself, but especially to the biker himself. I do it on purpose.
When I consider it's safe for him to pass, I will move over. Otherwise, I'll sit in the middle of the road if I have to.
I'm not having ANY of these bloody bikers speeding down the middle of the road weaving in and out of traffic.
I remember a few years ago driving along, 30mph zone, heavy traffic in both directions, a biker coming steaming up behind me, weaving in and out of traffic in a very dangerous fashion. When he got up behind me, I moved into the middle of the road to stop him. He then tried to go up the INSIDE of me, so I moved back to the left.
This continued for a couple of minutes, until we got to a safer bit of road and he moved over. As he went past he KICKED my door, leaving a big dent in it :mad:
If you tell me why that was necessary, then one day I may respect bikers again. There is no excuse for the way some bikers ride. If it's too busy, they should sit in traffic like anyone else ;)
Tis best to let them pull alongside, then move over ;):rolleyes:
Originally posted by Vronsky
Guy must be suicidal. Had one also the other day: flicked my brake lights for a second:D which scared the sh.. out of him/her. Very amusing that. Of course, he raced by me minute later.
Personally, tailgating bikes is my favourite entertaining on motorways. Somehow they never expect cars to keep up with them, let alone overtake:mad: :mad:
Keep up with a bike, who are you kidding. my bike does 175mph and 0-100 in 5.9 secs u can match that.
Originally posted by AshT_200
Except the guys with Wings. They are never a problem. :)
They would be Angels, and have to be good or God will smite them ;)
I tell all you people on this thread that when your in the car all nice and safe cosy u had better bear this in mind someone tailgates me i'll put the boot in the car door no sweat and so will umpteen number of fellow bikers 200 sx or not. as for the dutch twit look out for an orange glow from a headlighht that'll be me and beleive me theres only one car to out do my bike and thats ronnies 200mph r34.
Yingtong
12-02-2003, 18:44
I didnt mean that it was my own personal view.
You missunderstood what i was trying to say.
I should of said "some riders views may be as follows"...blah blah
Some people are very impatient and speed/tailgate ( i think we are all guilty of bending the rules now and again....lol) and riding a bike is, and will always be a steep learning curve.
If some one is foolish to travel so close that they have no way out if the vehicle in front needs to stop sharply, then eventually will pay the price.
No offence meant to anybody.
AshT_200
12-02-2003, 18:45
Originally posted by braz
I tell all you people on this thread that when your in the car all nice and safe cosy u had better bear this in mind someone tailgates me i'll put the boot in the car door no sweat and so will umpteen number of fellow bikers 200 sx or not. as for the dutch twit look out for an orange glow from a headlighht that'll be me and beleive me theres only one car to out do my bike and thats ronnies 200mph r34.
Ok, but you make a mark on my car M8 and I'll have you under the wheels. Is that a fair exchange ;) :rolleyes: :p
Lighten up M8, bikers get so defensive when they are criticised. There are just as many (percentage wise) bad bikers as bad car drivers. Just accept it.
and beleive me theres only one car to out do my bike and thats ronnies 200mph r34.
And it's an R33 Dickhead. ;)
Right then where to start:rolleyes:
Pete C, who the hell suddenly gave you the right to dictate what is safe and unsafe in motor policy??????
If you piss someone off then they are bound to get pissed off and retaliate. Had this in a queue of traffic so I start to filter (other side of the road is clear). Twat in car decides he doesn't like seeing people getting the better and nearly knocks off a couple of us:mad: what a tw@t:mad:
What you consider to be unsafe in a car is nowhere near as unsafe on a bike. Braking distances are greater for a bike, however a bike is a quarter of the width of a car and you'd be amazed at the escape options a biker has:D
However this is not to defend people tailgating which is plain stoopid :mad: and severely limits said escape routes.
Oh and I often find myself tailgating on occasions because the stoopid tw@t in the TT thinks after hes got off the roundabout that he's going to leave my R1 for dust, so the fool stays in the outside lane and boots it. only to find me nearly in his boot waiting to change up to 3rd:p
Jas is right, for the most part bikers are great, and most of us will always wave if someone moves over on the motorway as it gives us space and lets us know you've seen us:D:D:D:D
However there is always the minority of fools who pull wheelies outside schools, and the local pub, which then results in us all getting banned:mad: bitter, moi????
EDIT: PS Ronnies car is an R33:p
Mike Martin
12-02-2003, 18:52
Hayley,
The bottome line is I am more used to bikes than cars having ridden solidly since the age of 15 (yes i know but it was the 80s). When in a car I just feel a tiny bit more relaxed about what s going on around me. That is to say I drive in a similar way to how I ride, pre-planning every move and paying very careful attention to my surroundings but I know if things go wrong it's not going to hurt as much. Just to put this into perspective I have a six inch tube of titanium holding the bottom of my left leg together and two plates of the same in my jaw, thanks to a complete t*sser on a bike who nearly killed me two years ago.
Mike
PS I'll reply to some of the twot comments later when I get back later!!
AshT_200
12-02-2003, 18:55
Originally posted by GrahamB
EDIT: PS Ronnies car is an R33:p
Beat you to it an I don't have a bike :p :D
And it's an R33 Dickhead. ;) [/B][/QUOTE]
thanks for correcting me, I saw an r34 in silver for sale down by me been on my mind all day. thinking about buying but it will cost me a kidney.
Also accepted that there are good and bad riders, but its just the number of times Ive heard " oh sorry didnt see you" i mean theres an orange glow coming off my bike that could light up the moon. how the ffffffffkkkkkkk can you not see me. this is one of those debates that could go on forever.
Also to run over me you have got to catch me first.
Message: until you have ridden a bike none of you will know how to drive a car properly and safely. i reccomend any of you to at least ride for a week or two to understand what its like.
AshT_200
12-02-2003, 18:59
Originally posted by braz
Also to run over me you have got to catch me first.
Message: until you have ridden a bike none of you will know how to drive a car properly and safely. i reccomend any of you to at least ride for a week or two to understand what its like. [/B]
At last some sense... I agree that to learn about road safety and awareness, you will learn much faster on a bike than in a car.
I'll wait for you to run out of petrol :D
I would never tailgate a car on the bike 'cos it's just too bloody dangerous. I think the rider was either newish or just hasn't progressed with any real road sense. As I've got older I have to admit to doing things in the past I wouldn't even consider doing now.
A modern sports bike will outperform the majority of cars on the road and this can lead to a feeling of 'I just want to get by NOW' syndrome. I've been guilty of this and to be honest it can lead to a feeling of complete invulnerability. Basically I used to *feel* safe even if the situation was anything but. I get particularly upset if a car (or other vehicle) tailgates me on the bike because I think this is incredibly dangerous for me if anything happens to the bike.
I've had the accidents now and fortunately I've learned from them and I try to ride with safety and courtesy these days. You do still see bikes do things which seem incredibly stupid and dangerous, and I've absolutely no time for bikers who put others at risk.
Originally posted by AshT_200
At last some sense... I agree that to learn about road safety and awareness, you will learn much faster on a bike than in a car.
I'll wait for you to run out of petrol :D
Having done maths and physics my bike will sustain the higher speed using a lolt less fuel than you so all you will see is my fat arse in the distance- blow it a kiss
Originally posted by Robbie
I would never tailgate a car on the bike 'cos it's just too bloody dangerous. I think the rider was either newish or just hasn't progressed with any real road sense. As I've got older I have to admit to doing things in the past I wouldn't even consider doing now.
A modern sports bike will outperform the majority of cars on the road and this can lead to a feeling of 'I just want to get by NOW' syndrome. I've been guilty of this and to be honest it can lead to a feeling of complete invulnerability. Basically I used to *feel* safe even if the situation was anything but. I get particularly upset if a car (or other vehicle) tailgates me on the bike because I think this is incredibly dangerous for me if anything happens to the bike.
I've had the accidents now and fortunately I've learned from them and I try to ride with safety and courtesy these days. You do still see bikes do things which seem incredibly stupid and dangerous, and I've absolutely no time for bikers who put others
at risk.
these are the words of a wise man suggest everybody read quote again
Originally posted by braz
Message: until you have ridden a bike none of you will know how to drive a car properly and safely. i reccomend any of you to at least ride for a week or two to understand what its like.
Strongly put, but I know exactly where you're coming from. Riding the bike increases your perception of others and to read the road constantly for hazards such as surface changes, the vanishing point of bends etc
AshT_200
12-02-2003, 19:07
Originally posted by braz
Having done maths and physics my bike will sustain the higher speed using a lolt less fuel than you so all you will see is my fat arse in the distance- blow it a kiss
If it's that big, I might have a weight advantage :rolleyes: :D
What's the range of your bike.
Edited for me being a prat :rolleyes:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Pete C
[B]There you go - a prime example of biker over-confidence. That k
Fit the skyline pump and catch me if you can................
Originally posted by AshT_200
If it's that big, I might have a weight advantage :rolleyes: :D
What's the range of your bike.
138 miles in the tank and inffinity with the LPG from my arse.
Originally posted by AshT_200
Ok, but you make a mark on my car M8 and I'll have you under the wheels. Is that a fair exchange ;) :rolleyes: :p
Lighten up M8, bikers get so defensive when they are criticised. There are just as many (percentage wise) bad bikers as bad car drivers. Just accept it.
and beleive me theres only one car to out do my bike and thats ronnies 200mph r34.
And it's an R33 Dickhead. ;)
Ahh but you did not notice my sig did u, whose the dickhead, it was toni and not tony eyes not so keen ehhhhhh deliberate mistake all of you missed.
thejames
12-02-2003, 19:20
Jeez! We got some ego's on this thread..... :rolleyes: :p
At the end of the day, there are bad bike riders and bad car drivers. End of.
>> Pete C: Im no biker myself but by 'ruling' the road in the way that you state you're gonna cause more accidents than you're gonna prevent.
Yingtong
12-02-2003, 19:22
There was an article in a bike mag recently, i think that they tested different sports bikes againt a New Rover fitted with ABS,TC and yaw control.
The Bikes stopped considerably quicker (but it was dry i think).
Think about the combined size and power of 3 disks and 10 pistons + the comparative low wieght of the bike, thats not to mention very sticky tyres,CombinedBrakingSystems even ABS.....blahh...blah.
Cars dont stop faster Its a myth (in the dry).
Originally posted by Yingtong
There was an article in a bike mag recently, i think that they tested different sports bikes againt a New Rover fitted with ABS,TC and yaw control.
The Bikes stopped considerably quicker (but it was dry i think).
Think about the combined size and power of 3 disks and 10 pistons + the comparative low wieght of the bike, thats not to mention very sticky tyres,CombinedBrakingSystems even ABS.....blahh...blah.
Cars dont stop faster Its a myth (in the dry).
Thankyou for educating these mortals.
Originally posted by Pete C
If I'm sitting too far over to the right for a biker to overtake, then it's probably because I don't think it's safe for him to overtake without possible injury to other road users or myself, but especially to the biker himself. I do it on purpose.
When I consider it's safe for him to pass, I will move over. Otherwise, I'll sit in the middle of the road if I have to.
That's the most arrogant load of bullsh!t I think I've ever read on this BB. You're not Mycroft by another name are you?
Not surprising he kicked your door, personally I'd have followed you home and kicked you senseless for that mate. Do you often drive in lane 3 of the motorway at 70 when there's no traffic in front of you and refuse to pull over because you think that's quite fast enough???
:mad: :mad: :p
thejames
12-02-2003, 19:27
Originally posted by Chris_Lacey
... then some twat in a Vectra decided to pull out on a DC without looking in his mirrors... Almost hit the bike, and very nearly hit me... I overtake him and then brake and the bike procedes to undertake and overtake the offending repmobile for the next 5 minutes :) :) ...
For the record... It wasn't me. :D
Originally posted by braz
these are the words of a wise man suggest everybody read quote again
Aw shuks! (there's no embarrassed smilie!!)
I didn't mean to start a war (again). :( :( Sorry.
My bike was only little but I have had one. All I can say is that I'm glad that I can drive a car now (not only because it has a roof and a radio and a heater). :D
Be nice people.:)
Originally posted by Robbie
Aw shuks! (there's no embarrassed smilie!!)
No problemo, totally agree with what you said. Its good for a thread like this to have a balanced view.
Message for haley: this is the type of thread that causes wars. Suggest next time take some diclofenac or co dydramol and then walk the dog, afterall my the dog may be clocking up the miles but not the exercise. I speak as an owner of a black staff called BEEF.
thejames
12-02-2003, 19:34
>>Hayley: Troublemaker ;)
Originally posted by thejames
>>Hayley: Troublemaker ;)
BIG UP THE SURREY MASSIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!
Martin T
12-02-2003, 19:51
Aparrently according to Sniffpetrol, Biker self righeousness is up 40% form last year:D
Ok, so hands up who thinks I shouldn't be allowed to post threads anymore. :D
Originally posted by Martin T
Aparrently according to Sniffpetrol, Biker self righeousness is up 40% form last year:D
I'm here to spread the word of bikeonism. You dont have to go to jamaica to have wild sex, get 2 wheels as well as the *****.
thejames
12-02-2003, 19:56
>>Hayley: You just keep posting your threads young lady!
Do enjoy seeing your pretty car in your sig! ;)
Oh, and what you say in them is very interesting too of course... ;) :D :p
Tim\s13Auto
12-02-2003, 20:01
As a lot of people have said on here a biker thats tailgating either is new or has had his brain removed, my instuctor allways told me to hang back, He called it 'The get out of jail space' so if the veichcle in front had to slow suddenly u have room to brake or avoid, And as folk have said there are allways the fools on the road no matter what they are in controll of :( here's a classic example a guy i know was on his bike heading up a motorway slip road when somebody on another bike decided to do a u turn right in front of him :( and yes a nasty crash happend. In another bike thread on here i mentioned i lost a good mate due to a bike crash but after the grief i kept my bike simply because i enjoy it so much :)
Tim\s13Auto
12-02-2003, 20:05
Hmm after typing all that ive come up with a simpler version :rolleyes: At the end of the day be it car or bike its the person controlling it that is to blame ;)
mambastu
12-02-2003, 20:26
Originally posted by GrahamB
Right then where to start:rolleyes:
Pete C, who the hell suddenly gave you the right to dictate what is safe and unsafe in motor policy??????
If you piss someone off then they are bound to get pissed off and retaliate. Had this in a queue of traffic so I start to filter (other side of the road is clear). Twat in car decides he doesn't like seeing people getting the better and nearly knocks off a couple of us:mad: what a tw@t:mad:
What you consider to be unsafe in a car is nowhere near as unsafe on a bike. Braking distances are greater for a bike, however a bike is a quarter of the width of a car and you'd be amazed at the escape options a biker has:D
However this is not to defend people tailgating which is plain stoopid :mad: and severely limits said escape routes.
Oh and I often find myself tailgating on occasions because the stoopid tw@t in the TT thinks after hes got off the roundabout that he's going to leave my R1 for dust, so the fool stays in the outside lane and boots it. only to find me nearly in his boot waiting to change up to 3rd:p
Jas is right, for the most part bikers are great, and most of us will always wave if someone moves over on the motorway as it gives us space and lets us know you've seen us:D:D:D:D
However there is always the minority of fools who pull wheelies outside schools, and the local pub, which then results in us all getting banned:mad: bitter, moi????
Blimey, what a thread !
Big up to GrahamB for his answer, as a bike rider myself I can see the validity in all of his points.
Peter C and Ash, guys you've got a few issues with bikers by the sound of it - like a lot of drivers nowadays you seem to be suffering from anti-bike feeling, one day you might just kill someone with your antics :rolleyes:
Most bike riders ride defensively, we have to, the standard of driving on our roads is bloody awful nowadays. I generally find bikers are more patient and 'chivalrous' towards other road users.
I think the consenus is that us bikers rule!!!!!!!!
If you think not i may have to reveal my true identity, and i realllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllly do not want to do that.
Please dont start another bikes Vs Cars thread .... I dont think I can stand it....
Dave
Originally posted by braz
If you think not i may have to reveal my true identity, and i realllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllly do not want to do that.
Oh go on. :D
Yingtong
12-02-2003, 20:43
Is it Batman?
I blame all those drivers who wear hats. Whether baseball or flat cap any driver wearing a hat is A FFFCCCCCKKIn TWAT. No idea what ffffff planet they live on, but they all come out on SUNDAY wheres my 9mm.
thejames
12-02-2003, 20:45
Is that you, Mr Prescott? ;)
thejames
12-02-2003, 20:46
Braz, are you coming down to Kiln Lane tomorrow eve? 8 o clock.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Yingtong
[B]Is it Batman?
Love to tell you, all i can say is I'm not a copper.
Originally posted by thejames
Braz, are you coming down to Kiln Lane tomorrow eve? 8 o clock.
Trying to get babysitter now, bird doing night shift tomorrow. If I cant get there you must do a drive by past my place in west ewell. I'll come out and check out your wheels. I'm ok for the22nd at boxhill. and I'm readyt to go out now
thejames
12-02-2003, 20:52
Originally posted by braz
...If I cant get there you must do a drive by past my place in west ewell...
A drive-by in the Harlem sense of the phrase.....? ;)
Originally posted by thejames
Is that you, Mr Prescott? ;)
Blokes an arsehole but what would we all do if he was known as 2 *****s prescott- i cry at the thought
Originally posted by thejames
A drive-by in the Harlem sense of the phrase.....? ;)
dont shoot at the wheels cost me 650quid
Tricky-Ricky
12-02-2003, 22:21
Originally posted by mambastu
Blimey, what a thread !
Big up to GrahamB for his answer, as a bike rider myself I can see the validity in all of his points.
Peter C and Ash, guys you've got a few issues with bikers by the sound of it - like a lot of drivers nowadays you seem to be suffering from anti-bike feeling, one day you might just kill someone with your antics :rolleyes:
Most bike riders ride defensively, we have to, the standard of driving on our roads is bloody awful nowadays. I generally find bikers are more patient and 'chivalrous' towards other road users.
I think the roads would be much safer if all drivers had to pass a bike and car test before they took to the roads! then both would have some kind of insight into the skill of driving and consideration for each other! rather than no understanding and a sh*ty atitude!
Mike Martin
13-02-2003, 00:45
Well, I was gone come back with some searing put downs to the twottish posts about what can be done to bikes etc.
However, I've decided to let Spiderman make the point for me
"WITH GREAT POWER COMES GREAT RESPONSIBILITY"
This applies to ALL of us, as we all have (whether in our *****s or on our bikes) the power to cause ourselves and others great damage. Let's just try to remember that!!
Mike
Originally posted by mambastu
Peter C and Ash, guys you've got a few issues with bikers by the sound of it - like a lot of drivers nowadays you seem to be suffering from anti-bike feeling, one day you might just kill someone with your antics :rolleyes:
You're right and I'm sorry. I'm only 20 and I get a bit too hot headed for my own good sometimes :rolleyes:
Anyone who I've offended on this thread please accept my sincere apologies. I'm never going to post on a cars vs bikes thread again I don't think :D
And no, JB, I don't drive like that on the motorway - if people are courteous to me, then I'm courteous back, and I always move over if I'm holding someone up if there is room. I will learn one of these days to keep my comments in check.
Friends, everyone? :)
Yingtong
13-02-2003, 01:15
Respect
Yingtong
13-02-2003, 01:36
I'm sure we all get "hot headed" now and again (seems to happen less as i get older.....ho hummm i'm turning into a duffer....nnoooooooooooooooooo)
Damn livley thread peeps....... and if one driver now takes a second look in the mirrors / junctions then its all been worth it (if you ride a bike you know what i mean).
We all have to get from A to B and it would be better if everone made it ( ONE is too many friends lost on the road !!!!!)
......................Mistakes happen, Learn by them, we are all human...............................
Well it seems we have quite a few bikers in our midst.
Kev ponders the identity of Braz............
Definitely loves himself anyway and seems to think that every (pro-biker(?) ) answer is a personal praise.
This is not about sides m8!!
Chances are i wouldnt see ur orange light in my rearview cos of me bloody spoiler, but u give me a flash and ill pull over when safe to do so, take a swipe at my car and ill give the wheel a twitch.
As has been said quite a few times, there are really good drivers, and really bad ones, car and bikes.
But that was not what this thread was about as i see it, all the thread was about was that Hayley felt intimidated and annoyed at being tailgated by a biker.
Im sure she would have been equally annoyed to be tailgated by a car or a truck or................
Anyway my opinion for what its worth.
I dont own a bike, for the reason of sometimes i do silly things, and get away with them in a car, i wouldnt get away with them on a bike, i realise this.
Basically id kill myself on a bike.
I give a bike as much if not more consideration on the road because i have respect for peeps that have the b*lls to sit on an engine at anything over 40mph.
Most bikers are speed freaks, just like most tuned car owners are speed freaks.
If im sitting in a traffic jam and a bike rides up between, good luck to him, lucky barsteward for it, but be aware that ur not that easy to see in a line of traffic especially if ur riding up between a couple of transit vans or sommat, so to ride through almost stationary traffic as if there is none on the road is plain stupid.
Ive seen a few instances of this on the Mway when traffic is crawling along and a lane starts moving, so peeps try to get into that lane. then u see a biker giving verbal to some wee lassie who pulled across him.
The particular instance in my head just now was a transit luton and then a truck, then a corsa then the wee lassie (in a polo i think), she did indicate, she did check all around and then moved, but obviously the biker was obscured by the vans so she couldnt see him, but if he had been in a lane rather than between them, or had been driving cautiously (seen as how he obviously couldnt have seen past the vans either) the near accident would have been avoided.
But as someone said b4, it dont matter whether its a bike or a car, its the driver that makes the differance.
Also i see u were all quick to jump on Pete c, but i think he just slightly overstated his case.
I will on occasion use the full bearth of the road with a bike behind me if i know something which i feel he/she doesnt.
Ie, if i see some debris or muck or something on the center of the road, or if i think that they may not have seen the car coming the opposite way that is now hidden by the dip of the road, i will do this with a car thats eager to overtake also.
Its not done to antagonise, ur basically saying "look bud i think ud be taking a risk if u went just now".
When its clear, ill quite happily pull over left and indicate a couple of flashes, but to my mind its better to waste 15secs of overtaking time than risk someone killing themselves while trying to get by u, and apart from anything else, they might well be putting u in danger also.
My £2 worth.
Flame away.
Kev
Originally posted by braz
Keep up with a bike, who are you kidding. my bike does 175mph and 0-100 in 5.9 secs u can match that.
Very likely. These bikers just don't have the balls to play I guess:p :p
Originally posted by JB
Before we get too cross with Vronsky, it's worth bearing in mind that he's only displaying a national trait.
I spend a lot of time driving in France, most of it on motorways. Now, I don't hang about as some of you may know, but I regularly find myself being flashed to pull over when going well over the ton. Quite often on the 2 lane Autoroutes of north eastern France I find that I'm pulling over only to be overtaken by a dutch registered BMW or Merc, pulling a loaded trailor (or sometimes even a caravan).
Now a nation that sees no problem with doing 130mph with a caravan in tow isn't going to think twice about the consequences of tailgaiting a motorbike is it? It's just clean, innocent, fun!
Yeah, we're a bit different here.
Sure you were'nt driving on the wrong side?
Originally posted by Vronsky
Yeah, we're a bit different here.
Sure you were'nt driving on the wrong side?
Like I said before, Twit :rolleyes:
Originally posted by Pete C
Friends, everyone? :)
:D
I agree with most of the biker's comments here, but last night while pulling out from a petrol station and was shocked to hear an agresive shouting from outside the car. I looked left only to see a biker shouting at his loudest and most aggresive language at the lady driving the car in front of him trying to pull out.
In this case the biker must have seen a gap in the traffic she could have pulled out into, but this would have depended on wether she had anticipated the space, had the confidence/skill etc to do it.
I think some road users take other road user's abilitys for granted. We can't all make as experienced/skilled/reactions as you, this is why I don't see the point in most road rage. Nobody's out to kill bikers it's just that they don't have the same knowledge/ability/experience as most bikers will. If someone doesn't see a bike, its not because they didn't want to see it or are trying to kill you.
If I drove a bike I would avoid cars like the plague to prevent them killing me. Tailgating/dropping objects of the back of the bike/kicking other cars I WOULD NOT DO. These instances must be an extreme minority though.
As for the bloke who lost his temper at having to wait another 15-30 seconds in a queue, all I can say is: What the fcuk is someone with that temprement doing on a bike? Scarey.
My 2p (again!),
Dunc.
gaz.thomas
13-02-2003, 09:58
I remember a couple of years ago I was going down to oxford in my little fiat and a guy on a bandit came round the roundabout and cut straight off in front of me - No lifesaver. I ended up facing the wrong way on the roundabout almost browning the upholstery. I have to say I was surprised when the guy in question (looking somewhat sheepish) stopped and ran over to check everything was alright - I'd like to think an inconsiderate car driver would have done the same thing but I'm not so sure.
I've had bikes for the last five years and pretty much every biker i've met agrees they ride like the cages are trying to kill them - I think riding a bike (be it R1 or Bantam) makes you a damn sight more aware of the dangers of the road and my driving has certainly improved as a result.
Gaz
-x-
Cruisemad
13-02-2003, 10:01
Vronsky - You are an idiot aren't you.
Braz - Run along back to school now little boy, the bells ringing playtime's over.
******s!!:mad:
i read this post yesterday there was only a few posts, thought i wasn't going to post cuz i have no justification to do so (ie never been tailagted by a bike, they're either in front of me by time i notice them or hang back)
but to my supprise i was being tailagted last night on way home from work i was doing 45 in a 40 wrong i know, bu this person was actually sitting in my back seat!! tapped the brakes well gently still didn't back off, in fact he joined me in the front seat almost hhe must have been about 4 inches from my bumber now, and was in centre of car not to the side either!! i thought u dick!
when i took my right turn he glared at me as he went past. onky to find out it was an rs50!!! i mean if ur gunna ride, don't make it a bloody hair dryer!!
i don't have problems with bikes always wanted one. only been on the back of bike once and that confirmed i definately want one, either gsxr 1000 or zx12r. but that will be some time away seeing as i don't even have a cbt or what ever it is called. if i see a bike in mymirrors i make room for them to pass, i don't expecvt them to wave if they're going down middle cuz they nmeed to be able to control the bike same with if they overtake.
was blatting it came to my round about which i go right on, looking left as always cuz new RB sometimes ppl don't stop there was a bike heading towards me i thought shit! but he got it slowed down well before so i thought quality, then saw him join after meso i hung right over to the left to give him plenty of room off of the RB and as he got just in front he gave me a wave. nice to see some courtorsy every now and then, but like i said i don't expect to get a wave froma biker somply cuz its a bit too dangerous. but i rarely get tailgated cuz i live with my lead foot.
i just say give them room cuz if not then it cud all go wrong and some1s gunna get hurt/dead and cud go either way car drive ror biker.
btw pete c im not even 20 yet (april) so if u know you get 2 hot headed, u need to go to gym, its good anger management
I'm really sorry that I started this.:( My point was never to cause problems or arguments or bad feelings. I'm sorry to all.
I do have one thing to say. Some car drivers (who don't ride bikes) do sometimes get scared by the way some bikes are ridden. I know at times I do. Like staying to close behind the car.
It's not because we think you are idiots or anything. It's because we think that if something happens (whether its a stupid move or a genuine problem) we have some protection around us in the car, you don't on a bike. It's because we are scared that we may hurt you.
I don't think anyone on here can honestly say that they have never done something stupid while driving.
So please understand that maybe sometimes you make us nervous. :)
Anyway, I think this thread should stop now. Please guys.
Once agins, sorry for starting this. Just everyone take care. :)
Originally posted by Hayley
I'm really sorry that I started this.:(
Don't be sorry it makes a change to have a heated post from time to time :D
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Originally posted by Hayley
I'm really sorry that I started this.
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Don't be sorry it makes a change to have a heated post from time to time "
i agree no need to feel sorry.
also we have to give the zed board some competetiton with the debates :D :rolleyes: :p
Originally posted by Vipers
also we have to give the zed board some competetiton with the debates :D :rolleyes: :p
Competition? You beat us hands down with this one ;) :D
And just so I'm even slightly on topic - bikers scare me witless most of the time - mainly because I'm sure that one day I'm going to witness one kill himself..
I'd love to ride a bike myself, and find out what it's like, and comment first hand - but I don't have the b*lls.. simple as that!
Originally posted by Vipers
when i took my right turn he glared at me as he went past. onky to find out it was an rs50!!! i mean if ur gunna ride, don't make it a bloody hair dryer!!
LOL! Prolly the only way he could get to 45, slipstreaming you :D
Dave
bond_200
13-02-2003, 11:09
I don't think this thread is too heated (yet ;) ) I've certainly seen worse.
Does go to show that some car drivers do have serious problems with a bikers ability to filter through traffic though. Why do car drivers find this so annoying? I've never cut a biker up just to stop them from getting past :confused: We are sat on bike in the fantastic english weather :rolleyes: most of the year round so surely we have the right to skip traffic ques? Sitting in traffic jams is the price you pay for being warm and cosy in a car. Being cold and wet is the price bikers pay for being able to enjoy quicker journeys.
Just to heat things up a bit more.
The reason these car drivers hate bikers that filter is the same reason that half the members on this board hate
Saxo drivers
Nova drivers
BMW drivers
Volvo Drivers
BBC drivers
Women drivers
ITs just another ism to add to the list Racism, Sexism and now Vehicleism.
They hate them because they are not the same as them.
Does it really matter if Kev wants to spend his McD's wage on neon washer jets ??? ... only in the same way it matters if Mr 200sx spends his IT wage on clear indicator lenses.
Owning a 200sx does not make you any better than the rest of the driving world ... after all, its just a trumped up Datsun
For intrests sake I own a
200sx
Triumph Sprint ST (bike)
and soon a Ford Escort Estate.
So ..... You gonna love me or hate me ........... Still the same arrogant cnut inside though ... but do please judge ... oh by the way I have a BBC but no neon
;)
P.S ... Hayley ... best thread started in ages ... thanks x :D
Originally posted by Cruisemad
Vronsky - You are an idiot aren't you.
******s!!:mad:
:D :D :D :D
loving every second...
bond_200
13-02-2003, 11:55
Originally posted by Johnny
Owning a 200sx does not make you any better than the rest of the driving world ... after all, its just a trumped up Datsun
For intrests sake I own a
200sx
Triumph Sprint ST (bike)
and soon a Ford Escort Estate.
So ..... You gonna love me or hate me ........... Still the same arrogant cnut inside though ... but do please judge ... oh by the way I have a BBC but no neon
Well said mate. Although I have to say I don't wear a BBC ;) And watch out for a r/w/b NC30 wooping your triumph around Chipnum way. :D :D
Originally posted by Vronsky
:D :D :D :D
loving every second...
Reading your post brings to mind an old English expression to do with animals and illness.
Fur cough :D
Cruisemad
13-02-2003, 13:26
Originally posted by JB
Don't be sorry it makes a change to have a heated post from time to time :D
Certainly does mate, but this isn't really heated at all, if you wanna see some real heated stuff check this out
http://www.lancerregister.com/bbs/showthread.php?threadid=17311
Gets very childish at times, but I found it amusing:D
AshT_200
13-02-2003, 13:44
Maybe, but I have had a number of bad experiences with bikers, and they always got off scott free.
A M8 of mine was turning left into my driveway once and this biker came racing up the road and unable to stop in time, tried to cut in between my M8 and the pavement.
He was knocked off his bike, my M8 ended up with a Driving without Due Care and attention rap. FFS who's fault was it, even when the police estimated from the skid marks that the iker was obviously doing over a hundred. (The court ruled that it was the car drivers fault... as happens always)
The number of bikers who overtake with excessive speed and flick stones up into my windscreen and paintwork... I've lost count.
It pisses me off, that with all the new forward facing speed cameras etc, they are not combatting who is the biggest perpetrator of driving over the speed limit..... bikers.
Every bike I saw today was going over the speed limit.
All I'm trying to get some of the ego's to admit, is that there are bad bikers aswell as bad drivers.
That's all I'm going to say for now.
Rant over.
Originally posted by AshT_200
All I'm trying to get some of the ego's to admit, is that there are bad bikers aswell as bad drivers.
.
You'll never do it. ;)
Your on the wrong board for that, I tried for ever to try to get people to admit if they went through a Gatso and got caught speeding it was there own fault ... Not the governments, not the police, not the hidden camera. :D
but good luck
:rolleyes: :)
AshT_200
13-02-2003, 14:06
Originally posted by Johnny
You'll never do it. ;)
Your on the wrong board for that, I tried for ever to try to get people to admit if they went through a Gatso and got caught speeding it was there own fault ... Not the governments, not the police, not the hidden camera. :D
but good luck
:rolleyes: :)
I quite agree...... and there are still a lot of people on here who whine when they get done for doing 90 in a 30.
They deserve to get the book thrown at them. IMHO
Bet that starts a war as well. :rolleyes:
Originally posted by JB
Reading your post brings to mind an old English expression to do with animals and illness.
Fur cough :D
My posts seem to irritate you very much.
My sincere apologies.
I will withdraw from this thread at once.
Originally posted by Vronsky
My posts seem to irritate you very much.
My sincere apologies.
I will withdraw from this thread at once.
Good :D
Its the same attitude held by nearly all drivers (inc myself the majority of the time) whether you are a nova boy a BMW driver, one of gods own 200sx drivers, a bike rider, coach or lorry.
All of them think that they are in the right, that they are perfect and can driver better than everyone else, forsee everyone else, aware of everything else.
So as soon as someone infringes upon what ever they are doing, whether it be a speed camera, a horse a bike or a nova with the wrong choice of exhaust.
Then imitiatedly they become agressive and threatened and irrational
Its the cause of road rage, its the cause of vehiclism (my word) and its the cause of these threads.
And I love it :D ..... wouldnt it be dull if everyone realised they were not perfect and they are probably in the wrong 50% of the time.
I bet if you asked every one here if they were an excellent driver an above average driver, average driver, below average or shoit driver ....... there would be NO averages. ... I would go far as to say that the entire population beleives they are above average.
AshT_200
13-02-2003, 14:41
How true Johnny..
AshT_200
13-02-2003, 14:43
Originally posted by braz
Ahh but you did not notice my sig did u, whose the dickhead, it was toni and not tony eyes not so keen ehhhhhh deliberate mistake all of you missed.
So what are you saying. :confused:
Nathan_200sx
13-02-2003, 14:45
Originally posted by AshT_200
So what are you saying. :confused:
Toni's a girls name init hence the fat arse
Originally posted by braz
Trying to get babysitter now, bird doing night shift tomorrow. If I cant get there you must do a drive by past my place in west ewell. I'll come out and check out your wheels. I'm ok for the22nd at boxhill. and I'm readyt to go out now
That was what i thought he was saying too Nath, but this quote suggests not, cos ive never known a lesbian to call her partner a bird:rolleyes:
Bond, who has said they have a problem with bikers filtering through traffic??
Originally posted by Johnny
Does it really matter if Kev wants to spend his McD's wage on neon washer jets ??? ... only in the same way it matters if Mr 200sx spends his IT wage on clear indicator lenses.
Im going to assume this was not directed at me!!
Originally posted by Johnny
Owning a 200sx does not make you any better than the rest of the driving world ... after all, its just a trumped up Datsun
Originally posted by Johnny
Its the same attitude held by nearly all drivers (inc myself the majority of the time) whether you are a nova boy a BMW driver, one of gods own 200sx drivers, a bike rider, coach or lorry.
Please make up ur mind, is it a trumped up datson or is it gods own?
Vronsky, if u wish to post, post! Jb has an opinion, u also have an opinion, people may not agree with u, and people may not agree with JB, but who cares? its ur opinion!
Ash, who has whined when getting done for those speeds?
All i remember is post admitting being stupid.
oh and btw this is not even near the same level as the zed board.
Kev
Originally posted by Kev
Please make up ur mind, is it a trumped up datson or is it gods own?
"Gods Own" ;) coughsarcasmcough .... err Both.
Jesus drank out of a hand carved wooden goblet and not a golden jewel encrusted cup .. and he was the son of God (yes I have been watching Indiana Jones) ....... only goes to show, would the Dude himself really drive a Ferrari / Zonda etc ............. nah .... 13 year old s13 with rusty boot lid anyday.
One thing that is true though ...... you can bet your life, he would probably complain about everyother driver on the road though ...... and then get pissy as he failed to see big strippy lines in the road and fly past a 30mph gatso at 50 :D
i openly admit that i am drive at rediculous speeds. i know for a fact i am not as good as drivers as most of u lot if not all. how ever for my age i believe myself to be an above average driver simply cuz the fact that i have clocked up inexcess of 50k miles of experience and have been driving for 2 and 1/4 years. most of my mates and have averahed about 10-11k a year and i've done double that also my mum has done less total miles than me and shes been driving all her life (50odd yr old) i know its lots of short distance driving its just my opinion that i have more experience than most for my age.
but i agree that if you ride a bike then u'll be a better driver cuz u'll be more aware, simly cuz on a bike u have to. only ever been on the back of a bike once and that was gr8 fun, myu m8s dad whos got a cbr6 blade and caned it done about 140 gr8 fun, i recon he has the right idea have a 170 bhp car and a bike to whup evrything
Yea too right, and hed probably try the old chestnut ' im the son of god!! you cant give me a ticket officer!' routine as well.
Damn messiahs think they own the roads;) :D
Originally posted by Kev
Im going to assume this was not directed at me!!
:D :D Ha ha ha .. no .. why which one do you have ..... the neons or the clear indicator lenses. ???
My only point was does it matter what your modifying ... esp when it comes to purely cosmetic changes.
You get people on this board having a right go at some kid who decorates his Nova with big fat wheels, neon and stickers ... because he likes it ......... These same people then go home in there Big fat wheeled 200sx's with modded exterior lights .... why because he likes it ......... Its all the same. ... But because there not in the same "little group" .. they are be-littled .. if thats a word.
Live and let live
AshT_200
13-02-2003, 15:45
Originally posted by Nathan_200sx
Toni's a girls name init hence the fat arse
So Braz is a dyke with a fat arse on a bike. Ye God's and I thought Women Drivers were bad enough ;) Now they're on to bikes.:eek:;):rolleyes:
Sort of rhymes :rolleyes: :D
Nathan_200sx
13-02-2003, 15:49
Originally posted by Kev
That was what i thought he was saying too Nath, but this quote suggests not, cos ive never known a lesbian to call her partner a bird:rolleyes:
just twigged, swiss toni is of the fast show. wtf it's got to do with his sig? probably means he spelt it wrong the 1st time, nobody realised so were all a bit fik aint it :rolleyes:
Nathan_200sx
13-02-2003, 15:51
Originally posted by AshT_200
So Braz is a dyke with a fat arse on a bike. Ye God's and I thought Women Drivers were bad enough ;) Now they're on to bikes.:eek:;):rolleyes:
Sort of rhymes :rolleyes: :D
Dyke's on bike's lol :D sounds like some kind or orgaisation the goverment would love to throw lots of cash at.
Still :confused:
wasnt braz in neighbours a few years back???
i always wondered what b class celebrities did after they were famous:D
Class thread this, one of the best Ive read in ages :D
Originally posted by Nathan_200sx
Dyke's on bike's lol :D sounds like some kind or orgaisation the goverment would love to through lots of cash at.
Im sure if seen a film with the same name...... hmmm... twas a good night in....;)
bond_200
13-02-2003, 16:00
Originally posted by Kev
Bond, who has said they have a problem with bikers filtering through traffic??
No one said that as such but from earliar comments in the thread people (and u I believe) were saying they block the road to stop bikes from overtaking. This is still filtering just not as I described in my post. But, its pretty obvious that some people who posted on this thread do not like bikers overtaking/filtering past them. :confused: Selfish idiots that obvisouly know everything about road conditions, the exact speed/power of the bike trying to get past, the skill of the rider trying to get past and can also see from the riders eyes and KNOW that they have not seen the car coming in the opposite direction. I think not. Bike training teaches you exactly what to look for in all road & weather conditions. No one else can make a decision on whether its safe to overtake other than the rider themself. You are only irritating people by pretending to yourself you are doing them a favour.
That post probably made no sense but I cant be arsed to read back over it and I dont really care anyway as everyone reading this thread is not exactly gonna change the way they drive :)
Nathan_200sx
13-02-2003, 16:00
Originally posted by Jas
Im sure if seen a film with the same name...... hmmm... twas a good night in....;)
Was it as classy as nude darts or nude step arobics? how the hell them women keep a straight face I dont know, I was laughing my ass off
jesus wasn't the son of god, he was god incarnate, i.e. he was the embodiment of god (materialised form of his spirit/will)
besides i believe there maybe something called god/allah guy above, but is an alien.
jesus was david blane of the times and blatantly walked on a sand dune or a wooden rope bridge type thing that had gone under water. so he was blatantly either clever or new his stuff but was certainly an illusionist.
sorry if n e 1 on the board is religous etc etc just my view on them both
but he'd blatatnly have an s13 face lift cuz its an unknown sports car and he wants somehting thats fun but that doesn't stick out like a soar thumb either ferrari or s14/14as :p ;)
Originally posted by Nathan_200sx
Was it as classy as nude darts or nude step arobics? how the hell them women keep a straight face I dont know, I was laughing my ass off
Yea, nude darts, whats that all about!?! the last thing id want when i was naked would be to be throwing sharp flying objects around!!
Theres a ***** joke in there somewhere too..... :D :D
wow!! it sensored pr1ck!! thats technically not rude, :rolleyes: ;) :D
Originally posted by StuyMac
Class thread this, one of the best Ive read in ages :D
I like the way we can fool you moderators .... by sticking a smiley face next to our insults we avoid being banned or the thread being locked
Dickheads :D :D ;) :) :) ;) :D
Originally posted by Vipers
but he'd blatatnly have an s13 face lift cuz its an unknown sports car and he wants somehting thats fun but that doesn't stick out like a soar thumb either ferrari or s14/14as :p ;)
Funny you shoukd say that, cos ive had people yelling 'JESUS CHRIST!!!' or 'OH MY GOD' when theyve been in the car with me?? :confused:
i thought it was my driving, but apparently not!!
Originally posted by Vipers
besides i believe there maybe something called god/allah guy above, but is an alien.
Aliens ......... well, that explains it all. At least its another sensible belief with equally as little proof :)
I beleive in the postman .... for years I could not prove he existed .... I just had faith that it was him delivering my mail ........ And then one morning the doorbell went, I answered the door ... and fcuk me ....... it wasnt the son (or embodiment) of the postman ............... it was the big cheese .... and I had been wrong ........ wasnt a postMAN but a postWOMAN. .... Stunning as well, little shorts, tanned legs.
I worship her in my own way ........ and look forward to the second comming :D
second coming,
saw a bit of that film the other night, weird wren't had the nasty geeza from gone in 60 secs
See this thread the other day and didnt take much notice but as it was still at the top i thought i'd have a look and boy was i not disappointed :D
So i suppose i might as well have my say
I dont ride but did try for my licence a couple of years ago but failed (good job really as i would probably be dead if i passed ;) ) Anyway being out on the road certainly opened my eyes to how dumb some car drivers really are, the main problem being the lack of mirror use before changing lane, pulling out etc, i doubt some of them could see a car let alone a bike. I now have the upmost respect for the majority of bikers and always move over for them when i see them coming (which i normally do) but as with car drivers there is always one or two that believe you shouldnt be on the road and its law to move over and let them pass immediately. These are normally the ones who dont thank you after they go past or even give you a w@nker sign coz it took you more than 1 second to move over WTF :eek:
Surprisingly the bikers i think are the stupid ones are the ones you see waiting in traffic and not filtering, isnt that the whole point of riding a bike so you dont have to queue or travel at 30 behind a bloody micra in a 60 zone.
Oh well each to there own but as its been said theres good and bad in all types of road users, cars, bikes, women, men, BMW's, etc, you just notice it more when its a certain type you dont like, bet no one notices or remembers when a Toyota Avensis cuts you up/ tailgates. :D
Originally posted by Cruisemad
Vronsky - You are an idiot aren't you.
Braz - Run along back to school now little boy, the bells ringing playtime's over.
******s!!:mad:
suck my golden balls dairy cream boy , go and play on your tractor and get ooooooooooooooooooofffffffffffffffff my land!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!
make sure you never step in my arena bitch
Originally posted by AshT_200
So Braz is a dyke with a fat arse on a bike. Ye God's and I thought Women Drivers were bad enough ;) Now they're on to bikes.:eek:;):rolleyes:
Sort of rhymes :rolleyes: :D
actually 6ft1 and 17.5 stone u gonna fuk wit me, i'll turn u into ash when i slip my fag but down your fuel pipe
Nathan_200sx
13-02-2003, 18:37
Stones and glass houses spring to mind:rolleyes:
The Worst Things
Older People who look at us hanging round the station like we have got some sort of bad disease. College students studying in Macdonalds during their Lunch Break.(sad)
Traffic round the one way system and not enough pubs.
snobs who look down at the teenagers that live in epsom and stoneleigh...when they get of the train from 'london'
full of gippo's (why are there so many in epsom and slutton?), drunken plastic gangsters (who only want to fight in numbers and will then proceed to beat the living shit out of 1 person who is on the floor bleeding while all their mates join in to keep laying the boot in), longmead pikeys who love the reputation of their shithole estate (you don't live in gangland bwoys- you live in surrey, so whats with the mockney accent?) oh and did i mention the amount of gippo's?
Epsom. nuff said
Virtually the whole town, to be honest. The only bits I actually like are the rural bits outside of it.
THE STUCK UP OLD POSH GITS WHO THINK THE ARE OH SO SPEICAL AND PEOPLE WHO CUS LONGMEAD BEHIND OUR BACKS PUSS EEEEES
Rude Boys!!!
Bland, bland, bland....need I say more? But it is better than Sutton.
Yeah, I'll agree with the rude boys point. Try driving a sports car like a Supra or an MX5 down the high street at night and count how many 'cosmetically enhanced' Fiesta's, Uno's and Escort's try so hard to race you. Its quite funny to see a car with a maximum of 80bhp trying to race a car with around 300bhp, and all his fat kev mates sitting in the back seat egging him on. We counted 5 last week but I'm sure theres a few we didn't notice. Does it really go that much faster with Kenwood written in the rear window ? By the way lads, nice baseball caps.
the rude boys
Reading the above the town's not changed much since i moved out 14 years ago - kids from Longmead still to be avoided - nowhere to go need i say more!
Some people have the notion that they are better than others. How exactly is dubious.
Nobody hangs out here, believe me, I live near the dump. Nightlife is limited to seeing 2 or 3 people in one night, or hanging out in a kid's playground, the police snooping round all the time even when you're not doing anything and getting threatened by kids from the Longmead Estate-And anywhere near L'head is even worse-DO NOT COME HERE-you'll end up sectioned in a mental institute with boredom.
everyone talks about the racing
The Travel Inn
Especialy liked the drunken plastic gangster bit :D
Originally posted by Kev
That was what i thought he was saying too Nath, but this quote suggests not, cos ive never known a lesbian to call her partner a bird:rolleyes:
jesus kev you certainly live up to the name you were given
AshT_200
13-02-2003, 18:47
Originally posted by braz
actually 6ft1 and 17.5 stone u gonna fuk wit me, i'll turn u into ash when i slip my fag but down your fuel pipe
Only 6ft1, bit of a short arse if you ask me.
Originally posted by AshT_200
Only 6ft1, bit of a short arse if you ask me.
with a name like lesley sorry ashley- well it says a lot about you.
soft, warm hearted , but still deserving of a fag down you english fuel pipe
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid51/p2c0cfc812dd447ec4bc2321f55f02e5b/fca4e33e.jpg
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by dunkey
Originally posted by braz
jesus kev you certainly live up to the name you were given
Thats a errr.... great...... errr insult, that is err........
Ill erm need to err use that myself braziere
Am i sposed to be offended?
:confused: :confused:
Oh and its Kev, not Jesus Kev:rolleyes:
Im extremely interested in finding out how ur gonna put ur fag ass, sorry, "but" :confused: down ash's fuel pipe??
Is this while ur along side?
So ur gonna ask him to pop the fuel cap open, then ur gonna unscrew it then........................
Since this is non-200 related chat, then id say braz is actually mr. akimoto.
I say this as his "structered" arguments have fallen apart, so he is just retorting with insults now, very mature, back to ur play pen now.
Mr. Bond i did not say i object to bikes filtering through traffic at all, infact i said the opposite, and wat ur talking about is overtaking in my book.
I also did not say i knew everything about the conditions or.... blah blah blah
What i said was if i believe ive seen something which the person behind me has not, be it car or bike(as i already stated b4) then i will be more inclined to move nearer the center off the road space as a warning.
So if ur gonna pull me up for something i say, please at least make sure it is something i actually say, not ur misinterpretation(?) of it!
Jas, ur a funny guy, u made me :D :D
Dunc, LOL
Shit! go away for a day and look what happens! :D
still not ferocious enough though........where's the 300zx boys! ;) :p :D
Papa Lazarou
14-02-2003, 01:41
Yeah no death threats been made yet :p
Originally posted by Kev
Vronsky, if u wish to post, post! Jb has an opinion, u also have an opinion, people may not agree with u, and people may not agree with JB, but who cares? its ur opinion!
Yeah well said because we want people on this board who's opinion is that we should tailgate biker and scare the sh!t out of them don't we :rolleyes: I don't object to people having a different opinion to mine, I just object to people talking and behaving like twats. What's so wrong with that Kev?
BTW Kev, I'm not tring to argue with you, just point out that if you reread Vronskys posts you might see where I was coming from a little better. :)
Originally posted by JB
Yeah well said because we want people on this board who's opinion is that we should tailgate biker and scare the sh!t out of them don't we :rolleyes: I don't object to people having a different opinion to mine, I just object to people talking and behaving like twats. What's so wrong with that Kev?
BTW Kev, I'm not tring to argue with you, just point out that if you reread Vronskys posts you might see where I was coming from a little better. :)
Kev: don't bother, it'll only upset Mr. Scrabble more
Originally posted by braz
when i slip my fag but down your fuel pipe
Just looked this quote up in Rogers Profanisaurus.
Apparantly braz want to play bubba .... and he wants you to be his bitch.
Just keep your fuel pipe to the wall mate :eek:
AshT_200
14-02-2003, 10:13
Originally posted by Johnny
Just looked this quote up in Rogers Profanisaurus.
Apparantly braz want to play bubba .... and he wants you to be his bitch.
Just keep your fuel pipe to the wall mate :eek:
If the faggot tries that on. His head will be doing my Avatar. :mad:
That good enough Papa ;):D
gaz.thomas
14-02-2003, 10:34
deserving of a fag down you english fuel pipe
Does that sound like a euphemism to anyone else???:D
Originally posted by gaz.thomas
Does that sound like a euphemism to anyone else???:D
Im telling you .. the profanisaurus ... The guy is clearly a Marmite Driller (Workman on the Marmite motorway)
JonnySpeedbump
14-02-2003, 14:39
What are you guys saying.......... that Braz is an uphill gardener, a rear admiral, a knob jockey, a bare-bum boxer, a brownie hound, a rear engineer, a chutney ferret, a rectum wrecker, a fudge-packer, a batty boy.........?!?!?
Sorry got carried away there :rolleyes: :D
PS. I think I got all the euphemisms there, however if I've missed any please feel free to jump in :p !
AshT_200
14-02-2003, 14:50
Originally posted by JonnySpeedbump
What are you guys saying.......... that Braz is an uphill gardener, a rear admiral, a knob jockey, a bare-bum boxer, a brownie hound, a rear engineer, a chutney ferret, a rectum wrecker, a fudge-packer, a batty boy.........?!?!?
Sorry got carried away there :rolleyes: :D
PS. I think I got all the euphemisms there, however if I've missed any please feel free to jump in :p !
I was almost there...... dyke..... Or perhaps a chick with a dick? Bangkok Ladyboy. :D
Extra euphemisms......
Likes to go house hunting along the Bourneville Boulevard.
Goes Potholing in Cak Canyon
Pilots a boat up the Cadbury's Canal
No his real identity is the Pink Pounder :D
Papa Lazarou
14-02-2003, 14:56
Originally posted by JonnySpeedbump
PS. I think I got all the euphemisms there, however if I've missed any please feel free to jump in :p !
Cocoa shunter?
Pillow biter, fudge packer, chocolate stuffer.......
POOF!
Jb, i read Vronskys posts and urs mate, and i do agree they were a bit ott, and i can see why u were upset, however he appologised, and said he would make no further comment, to which ur responce was simply "good", i found this a bit.............. cant find the words really, but u should imo have accepted his appology.
Again, it is just my opinion.
Kev
Brown Hatter
Pipe Cleaner
Queer sh!t stabber
Tunnel Tester
Likes cruising up the Marmite Motorway
Helmet Shiner
Mattress Muncher
Pillow Biter
Amdathlonuk
14-02-2003, 15:27
Grand wizard of the order of the Brown Tower...
:D :D
We have to award Hayley for this thread !!!:D :D :D
I do not want to be associated with this thread anymore.:(
You are all being horrible and insulting each other. :p
With all the shit in the world at the moment. Its valentines day. Be nice to each other you argumentative bastards. :mad: :mad:
:p :p :p :p :p :D
Amdathlonuk
14-02-2003, 15:35
You started it!!!
:mad: :p :D
I asked a simple question (which the point was missed completely). :p I wasn't having a go at anyone or annoyed. You lot started the arguments. :mad:
I'm a happy little person with good karma. :D
Amdathlonuk
14-02-2003, 15:40
Think you meant....
Good Car-ma
;)
Originally posted by Hayley
I do not want to be associated with this thread anymore.:(
I see you are still reading it though 9 pages later ;)
AshT_200
14-02-2003, 15:53
Here's a few tha haven't been mentioned.
baggage boy n. Of pooves and poovery, the opposite of a pillow biter (qv); stone (qv).
batty-boy n. W. Indies Tail ender who habitually bowls from the Pavilion end (qv).
Bertie 1. n. Male homosexual. 2. A proper Charlie (qv).
butt slammers n. derog. US Members of the gay community
chocolate chimney sweep n. He who uses his purple headed womb broom (qv) to clean poop chutes (qv).
chocolate shark angler n. Fisherman who sails his skin boat (qv) up the cocoa canal.
chocolate speedway rider n. Purple helmeted star of the dirt track.
cottage v. To go house hunting on Bourneville boulevard (qv)
Hershey highwayman n. Gentleman thief who shoots rusty sheriff’s badges (qv) with his mutton musket (qv).
navigator of the windward pass n. Rear admiral (qv).
putting from the rough v. Golfing equivalent of bowling from the Pavilion end (qv).
sausage jockey n. Passive male homosexual; anyone who sits on a sausage and bounces up and down. Also sausage rider.
oops... seems a bit off topic now.
AshT_200
14-02-2003, 15:56
Originally posted by Hayley
You lot started the arguments. :mad:
The 300 board keeps going down at the moment :D
I'm still here because I am cursed with curiosity. ;) :D
Originally posted by AshT_200
The 300 board keeps going down at the moment :D
PML:D :D
another one :-
BRAZ ..... someone that likes to slip his fag butt down your fuel pipe :D :D :D :D
AshT_200
14-02-2003, 16:02
Originally posted by Johnny
another one :-
BRAZ ..... someone that likes to slip his fag butt down your fuel pipe :D :D :D :D
:D
I bet that one will now crop up as much as calling someone a Joey. :D
marmite miner
terd burglar
Cruisemad
14-02-2003, 16:13
Originally posted by braz
suck my golden balls dairy cream boy , go and play on your tractor and get ooooooooooooooooooofffffffffffffffff my land!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!
Er, not sure I understand this, is this supposed to be an insult????
Blimey Braz, you haven't even got the intelligence to insult someone.
If like Kev says, you are Mr Akimoto, you weren't funny then and just confirms that your posts have always been a waste of bandwidth.
Salong sucker!:mad:
Someone's complained so - bye thread.
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