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Let's say you had the cash spare and wanted to build your 200sx into something awesome. How would you go about it?
It would have to be triple rotors for me,lightweight, rev happy and ooodles of power:D :D
I'd use the engine out of a white Astramax van. Woooosh, nothing comes close :D
id go for a 2JZ- GTE out a supra, the power to be had from one of those lumps is awesome!! i can imagine it would cost a few pennies though!!:rolleyes:
Chris_Lacey
10-02-2003, 13:16
I'd go for the RB20, a little different, 6 pot sound and lighter than an RB26.
But then I wouldn't do an engine swap because I am too scared!
Slipstream_ian
10-02-2003, 13:22
It whould have to be a lump out of a ford tranist van no matter where you are they is one allways wanting to over take you
Martin T
10-02-2003, 13:23
I put the RB26, but maybe its too heavy. Rotary would be nice, but I done fancy rebuilding it all the time. Ideally a small, light, reliable twin turbo 32v V8 with a dual plane crankshaft (which doesn't exist, but I can dream) That would go and sound awesome!
Nathan_200sx
10-02-2003, 13:24
FJ20ET Andy, sound like a well proven engine to me + you'd most probably be the uk 1st.
You'd also not have to worry too much about weight distribution. Could it be that you've found an engine that is andy proof ;):D
Originally posted by Nathan_200sx
Could it be that you've found an engine that is andy proof ;):D
pfftt.. not a chance. The engine might be strong but the curse of the fogg is stronger. I pray to god i never have to fly anywhere with him :D or get on a boat. Or any risky means of transport actually. :D
I dunno about all the effort though, it would take alot for me to want to do an engine swap for anything that wouldnt plop right in. The gearbox, prop, diff, driveshafts.. i guess all would have to be changed if you wanted to go above the realms of the CA18DET tuning, as it seems the CA is perectly capable of shredding diveshafts and gearboxes by itself. Having said that, if money is no object, it would be nice to do a drive in- drive out. With a new engine and running gear. But then you have another car with a 200 shell on it, and id probably just go and buy a supra instead :)
The more i think, the more CA18 and SR20 make sense, unless as above, money is no object. :D
sroberts
10-02-2003, 16:22
How about this for an idea, it's only 180Bhp, and a tiny 1.3 but a <B>GSX1300 R HAYABUSA</B> engine would be a great idea.... or possibly two :D :D :D :D :D :D
Si :)
sroberts
10-02-2003, 16:25
Oh and you can get a <B>210 BHP Turbo Conversion!!!!!</B> :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Si :)
I think a cossy conversion would be interesting, very easy to get hold of parts and upgrades for big power.
But Ultimately, it would have to be the GTR lump :D
Papa Lazarou
10-02-2003, 19:08
I voted for rotary power. Preferably a 3 Rotor ;) So much potential.. Maybe not quite as much as the 2JZ or RB26 but put it this way it'll be fast enough.
On the 2JZ anyone else heard HKS have apparently got 1400 ps out of one at a mere 1.6 bar of boost with 2 x GT3540R turbos on their Drag Supra?
EDIT
No I tell a lie it was NOT a 2JZ it was a 4 litre V8 3UZ-FE engine whatever that is (how about one of them Andy? ;) ) but the power/boost figures were correct. Heres a vid of it doing a 6.81 second 1/4 @ 194 mph :eek:
http://highboost.com/movies/hksjza.mpg
Papa I think that's the V8 from the Lexus IS400 ?
I voted Other - so my Ultimate engine conversion would be .... a large capacity V8, but probably naturally aspirated. Turbo or super charging something as large as that would make a 200sx somewhat of a wheelspin hero. Besides, a naturally aspirated v8 can be tweaked to make the most fantastic noise and that's definitely a main part of the experience!
Got to be the Skyline lump, surely.........
mambastu
11-02-2003, 11:56
Originally posted by sroberts
Oh and you can get a <B>210 BHP Turbo Conversion!!!!!</B> :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Si :)
Holeshot racing did a 348bhp at the back wheel Hayabusa turbo engine :)
OK in a kit car but bit buzzy in a 200SX :)
1200bhp
Guy in the us put one in to a big car.
250mph +
C.
sroberts
11-02-2003, 12:09
Stu I sure that was the one I was thinking of, the one out of MCN.
SI :)
gaz.thomas
11-02-2003, 12:15
Other...enormous v8 - ain't no replacement for displacement.
And a petrol tanker to follow you round - or maybe one of those 'inflight refuelling' things that jets use.
Gaz
-x-
Paul_S13
11-02-2003, 12:22
Get a Cossie lump and do a 2.4 conversion.
I've gone for cossie. I think they're :cool:
AshT_200
11-02-2003, 12:42
Have to be one of these. :D
http://www.automotivearticles.com/infiniti-nissan/r390-9.jpg
Keeping it in the family.... the VRH35L. :)
AshT_200
11-02-2003, 12:45
Originally posted by AshT_200
Have to be one of these. :D
http://www.automotivearticles.com/infiniti-nissan/r390-9.jpg
Keeping it in the family.... the VRH35L. :)
And look at the size of the turbo and it has 2 of them :eek: :D
Papa Lazarou
11-02-2003, 17:45
How about a Rolls Royce Merlin engine from a Spitfire??
Over 1000 hp I believe and normally aspirated so no turbo lag :D :D
Definately rotary. Cant beat the sound of them Mmmmmmmm
Dave
AshT_200
11-02-2003, 18:00
Originally posted by Papa Lazarou
How about a Rolls Royce Merlin engine from a Spitfire??
Over 1000 hp I believe and normally aspirated so no turbo lag :D :D
They were supercharged. :)
Papa Lazarou
11-02-2003, 18:19
Originally posted by AshT_200
They were supercharged. :)
So they are ;)
Would need a slight extension to the front of the car to fit one of these in though I guess...
Being 27 litres I guess fuel economy isn't much to write home about either.
http://www.chessf.clara.net/rr/weird/weird066.htm
gaz.thomas
12-02-2003, 07:50
Spitfire engine - Mmmmmm (obviously the merlin and not the triumph)
It's probably doable aswell - search for merlin here (http://www.barnstormers2000.com/search_frame.htm)
My Ultimate engine to put in a 200sx....
Okay firstly lets get the tranny sorted, I would propose the transaxle from a Porsche 928 SE (manual) with relavent cooling so as to take the power.
Then:
Dart Pro Aluminium Chevy V8 block
Dart Pro 1 Racing Heads with optional CNC porting
Balanced Steel Crank
A nice roller cam with roller followers
roller rockers
Corrilo rods
Some rather spangly drop forged hardened pistons
Super small flywheel (to make it Ultra revy - eh Andy)
Tiny Harmonic Balancer
Electric water pump (dont want to use any engine power)
Complete bottom end balance
Throttle bodied fuel injection system from eidlebrock
Motec ECU controlling the whole shooting match allowing me to dial in supercharger boost as appropriate, and also to do traction control on demand too.
Twin Intercooled Vortex superchargers (enabling me to rev to 8000rpm).
A pair of SARD R2D2's to make it sound pretty funky and slightly jap.
Balanced Headers with little silencing with maybe a pair of draggers out the back.
Oh and drysumped too.
That'll do I reckon! - Should be good for a reliable 700 bhp
Oh and a sludgematic transaxle so I can drop the porsche box so I can destroy you lot on the quarter mile
marty_t3
12-02-2003, 09:50
Rover V8 from a TVR 420SEAC. The best sounding engine ever. Loads of usable power and a fantastic torque curve. Throw in some long gearing, strip it out, fit some buckets and a cage and you have my ultimate 200sx :D .... oh... and some RAC membership for when it breaks down :D
thejames
12-02-2003, 10:23
Aston Martin V12 lump. With Nitrous. Nuff said.
Originally posted by Vez
Oh and drysumped too.
Sorry for being thick, whats this all about? Does it have a rain coat to prevent splashes from puddles?
No a dry sump is a type of sump.....
Instead of having the huge sump which may take some 4 litres of oil and probably one pickup, you have a very very shallow sump, which as a result contains less oil. Dry sumps have multiple pickup points around the sump pan and this oil is sucked into a pressurised oil container (or resevour) as apposed to just sloshing around in the sump. The pickups around the base of the sump are designed so that the engine will always pick up oil and fill the reservour, the reservour guarantees the engine has oil on demand.
The whole basis of this is so that the engine can be stressed with high acceleration and breaking forces, and sustained G through corners without starving one of the banks of the V8 of oil which is bad as no oil tends to make engines go pop!
AshT_200
12-02-2003, 17:26
Originally posted by Vez
My Ultimate engine to put in a 200sx....
Okay firstly lets get the tranny sorted, I would propose the transaxle from a Porsche 928 SE (manual) with relavent cooling so as to take the power.
Then:
Dart Pro Aluminium Chevy V8 block
Dart Pro 1 Racing Heads with optional CNC porting
Balanced Steel Crank
A nice roller cam with roller followers
roller rockers
Corrilo rods
Some rather spangly drop forged hardened pistons
Super small flywheel (to make it Ultra revy - eh Andy)
Tiny Harmonic Balancer
Electric water pump (dont want to use any engine power)
Complete bottom end balance
Throttle bodied fuel injection system from eidlebrock
Motec ECU controlling the whole shooting match allowing me to dial in supercharger boost as appropriate, and also to do traction control on demand too.
Twin Intercooled Vortex superchargers (enabling me to rev to 8000rpm).
A pair of SARD R2D2's to make it sound pretty funky and slightly jap.
Balanced Headers with little silencing with maybe a pair of draggers out the back.
Oh and drysumped too.
That'll do I reckon! - Should be good for a reliable 700 bhp
Oh and a sludgematic transaxle so I can drop the porsche box so I can destroy you lot on the quarter mile
Hmm..... not an obvious choice from you then ;):rolleyes::D
Me predictable, NEVER :p :D
Now this is getting silly, but the ultimate engine has to be
the latest W16 Bugatti Veyron engine?
1001 bhp! and 922 lb.-ft of torque :eek:
I think its quad turbo aswell (has scope for tuning?) :D
Ohh yeah, thats 8.0 litre by the way.. :eek:
Like that will fit in a 2*****!
mambastu
13-02-2003, 12:21
Originally posted by Papa Lazarou
So they are ;)
Would need a slight extension to the front of the car to fit one of these in though I guess...
Being 27 litres I guess fuel economy isn't much to write home about either.
http://www.chessf.clara.net/rr/weird/weird066.htm
If we're not bothering about fuel economy why not try the Merlins bigger brother - a Rolls Royce Griffin - 37 litre supercharged - 2500hp + :)
Cheers Vez, understand now :)
AshT_200
13-02-2003, 12:56
Originally posted by mambastu
If we're not bothering about fuel economy why not try the Merlins bigger brother - a Rolls Royce Griffin - 37 litre supercharged - 2500hp + :)
Well if we're not bothered by size and fuel economy, how about an F1 engine from the 1st stage of Saturn 5?
1.5 million pounds of thrust, fuel consumption 200,000 litres/min (around 1.5million horse power):eek:
That should make the 2***** go quite fast :rolleyes:
not too sure if it would fit under the hood though...
and 200,000 litres /min, hmm, thats not much worse than normal 200,s, so i vote for this one too:D
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