Rear big brake kit almost ready

[Dan@DB-Power]

Hi Guys

As requested here is the low down of options for rear brake kits :)

Option 1:-

Rear brake kit for the S14/S14a and S15 utilizing the original calipers for the handbrake :)
Disc size comparision:-

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x284/db-power/Comparison.jpg
http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x284/db-power/Done.jpg

The kit comes with, 330mm x 10mm solid rear discs, Brackets, Bolts, Spacers, brake hoses etc. You will need to source the twin pot calipers though :)
Approx price would be £190 :)

Option 2:-

Rear brake kit for the S13, S14/S14a, S15, 300zx and Skyline GTS-T which have the Z32 rear calipers, and Z32 handbrake set-up.
http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x284/db-power/Z32BBK2.jpg
http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x284/db-power/Z32BBK.jpg

The kit comes with 322mm x 22mm vented drilled and grooved rear discs, brackets, bolts, spacers etc
Approx price would be £230 :)

Option 3:-

4 Pot Rear brake kit for the S14/S14a and S15
http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x284/db-power/23092007909.jpg

The kit comes with Wilwood 4 pot calipers, 320mm x 24mm vented discs, brackets, bolts, spacers, hoses etc
Approx price would be £450

All kits will be roughly ready in about 1 months time from the 1st of NOV :)

Dan :thumbs:

[blue boy]

Me like the sounds of this. What car are the discs from orignally?

[Dan@DB-Power]

Me like the sounds of this. What car are the discs from orignally?

can't say at the moment ;)

[Ken]

Any plans for a bigger rear kit using z32 calipers Dan?

[BBB]

Sounds good. IIRC the issue with arsing around with your rear (ooe-eer) brakes is the handbrake assembly/cable. Will your kit cope with this and make it easy to fit for mere mortals or will you have to be a spanner god?

If it makes it easy then I'm interested.

[Django67]

If it makes it easy then I'm interested.

Me too.

[Dan@DB-Power]

The kit shoudl be easy :) well thats the plan anyhow :)

Ken, I am in the final stages of the Z32 bigger rear kit as well :)

Dan :thumbs:

[Rich_D]

I could be interested in this...

[Ken]

The kit shoudl be easy :) well thats the plan anyhow :)

Ken, I am in the final stages of the Z32 bigger rear kit as well :)

Dan :thumbs:

Cool, I'll be interested in one:thumbs:

[S3 1MDl]

u cud probably sell a couple of dozen of these by the end of the month

im defo interested

[Sideways Danny]

I want bigger rears to go with standard s13 calipers, possible?

[blue boy]

Group buy Dan ;)

[dannyb1986]

id be interested, s13 with z32 rears dan if you could get them! if not at the moment any plans to do one?

[pdh 14a]

I thought the main reason for upgrading rears was due to the single pot calipers rather than size :confused:
But i am interested in a set just for the looks anyway :thumbs:

[Richy_Boy]

Nice one dan :nod: Chalk me down for a kit, happy to test a few kits too :D

Rich

[panjy]

Interested in this too :nod:

[s14_dave]

ill be interested in the bigger z32 brakes

[drifter]

I would be interested :) Need to get a 330mm kit off you as well at some point in the future :thumbs:

[bobbitt]

will u have bigger pads to cover the bigger disks 4 this?- std rear pads suck..
ur the man dan

[bobbitt]

will disks be drilled n grooved like 330mm kit?

[markr]

yeah im interested....

but id rather a 2 or 4 pot caliper on the rear rather than the crappy looking standard one....:thumbs:

[markr]

yeah im interested....

but id rather a 2 or 4 pot caliper on the rear rather than the standard one....:thumbs:

[-Al-]

The kit shoudl be easy :) well thats the plan anyhow :)

Ken, I am in the final stages of the Z32 bigger rear kit as well :)

Dan :thumbs:

I'd be interested in the Z32 one :thumbs:

[j4mes]

I'd be interested in the Z32 one :thumbs:

same

[pdh 14a]

will u have bigger pads to cover the bigger disks 4 this?- std rear pads suck..
ur the man dan

They will be the same pads,as the size of the disc not the friction area will be increased :thumbs:

[dannyb1986]

They will be the same pads,as the size of the disc not the friction area will be increased

so whats the point in hving bigger discs if no extra braking surface is going to be used?

[doninphi]

so whats the point in hving bigger discs if no extra braking surface is going to be used?

Better cooling, and more leverage, means better brakes! I believe so anyways...

Put me down for one! I need my rears sorting and there is no point buying new disks if you are gonna do this. I'd like smooth discs tho I think...

Also: Which kit would you reconmend to balance this all out on the front? Gonna do the lot at once. 315mm or 330?

[Badasssx]

Wicked!

Will these fit on standard rims?

Will these fit on z32 rims?

[drifter]

Wicked!

Will these fit on standard rims?

Will these fit on z32 rims?

The 310mm kit on the front fits with larger calipers, so they should fit okay:thumbs:

[alexjj]

z32 kit plus upgraded disks absolutely here too - complete upgrade kit.. cash with your name on here.

[fingerpie]

I would be interested in this

[alexjj]

Can we make sure (if possible) that the rear Z32 upgrade is the alu callipers rather than the heavy lump of pig iron?

[colchester daz]

deffo intrested in this dan

[Ken]

Can we make sure (if possible) that the rear Z32 upgrade is the alu callipers rather than the heavy lump of pig iron?

Wont make any difference, kit will be discs and brackets, wont include calipers

[alexjj]

Ah.....






but ;) I have been doing some facilitating behind the scenes - and there may be scope for this from a manufacturer / remanufacturer...

[Dan@DB-Power]

Hi Guys

Just a little update, the rear S14 caliper big brake kit didn't work :( as the disc wouldn't go over the hub :(

I've got a new one in mind though, which are about 330mm :eek: With this one I hope there will be 2 options :)

1:- Using your original S14 rear calipers :)
2:- Using brand new larger caipers (still single pot though, but a larger one)

I'll be doing some more testing this weekend and next weekend though :)

Dan :thumbs:

[Cookie]

how bigs the rear z32 going to be?

C.

[Dan@DB-Power]

322mm :)

[-Al-]

Dan, what would you be supplying with the Z32 kit? everything bar the calipers?

[Dan@DB-Power]

Hi Al

The Z32 big brake kit will come with discs, brackets, bolts etc.

It won't inc the handbrake set-up cables or calipers.

Dan :thumbs:

[Mr OCD]

I thought the main reason for upgrading rears was due to the single pot calipers rather than size :confused:
But i am interested in a set just for the looks anyway :thumbs:

I thought that too... until I changed from the standard 280mm disks to 315mm disks and the difference is staggering :nod:

Dan: Put me down for a rear kit pls mate :thumbs:

[Cookie]

bigger pads available?

C.

[-Al-]

Ta Dan, Sorry if i'm sounding think here :o But does that mean all I'll need to get hold of are handbrake cables and calipers? :)

[Dan@DB-Power]

Hopefully bigger pads :)

[Dan@DB-Power]

Ta Dan, Sorry if i'm sounding think here :o But does that mean all I'll need to get hold of are handbrake cables and calipers? :)

and backplates I think :) Do a search for Z32 rear brakes :)

[Richy_Boy]

I thought that too... until I changed from the standard 280mm disks to 315mm disks and the difference is staggering :nod:

Dan: Put me down for a rear kit pls mate :thumbs:

Ayyiiii, but then, we do have 4-pot callipers on the front which Nissan felt were good enough for the 300ZX too (i.e. not utterly shite). I usede to hate the single pot cal;iper design, but after working on my mates Honda Prelude that only has a single piston on the FRONT :eek: yet brakes very nicely.

I think he said even the NSX has larger, single pot callipers :wack:

Rich

[alexjj]

and backplates I think :) Do a search for Z32 rear brakes :)

Hiya - is your supplier any further along with callipers?

[Muttly]

Just to clarify the Z32 upgrade you're supplying is in addition to a Z32 upgrade already done to the car?? How much for it?? And will it work with a R33 back setup, it should as I'm fairly sure its the same but just to be sure???

[Cookie]

R32/R33/R34/Z32 all have the same basic rear brakes (brembo however on the later GTR's, but the hand brake setups are compatible)

[Airbog]

To Dan - so can I run on my S13 your rear brake kit just with R33 rear calipers and some pads? As I know, I don't need any backplates or handbrake cables or so to mount 2pot rear calipers on S13. It's direct bolt on job, when using Z32 rotors.

[200sxs14]

I could be interested in this too with some 330mm or 345mm for the front aswell :)

[Dan@DB-Power]

Hi Guys

Muttly, The R33 GTS-T set-up is the same as the Z32 one, so the kit will work :)

Airbog, yep all you will need are the calipers, pads and hoses :)

200sxs14, no probs chap :)

Please note though that the Z32 big brake kit will be more expensive than this one as the discs cost alot more :(

Update on the S14 big brake kit using standard S14 calipers. I have been doing some research and have changed the kit design. My new plan will be 330mm rear discs, standard S14 caliper for the handbrake and then an additional 2 pot caliper for the main rear braking. This I think would be a much better and more effective design. :nod: Although this will be your choice as I will design the kit so you can use your standard S14 calipers for braking/hand brake or you can choose to use it just for handbrake and then purchase the 2 pot rear calipers which will be inexpensive aswell :)

Dan :thumbs:

[Grazor]

Great work Dan, I'm very interested in this upgrade too. :thumbs: :thumbs: :thumbs:

[blue boy]

This is sounding very interesting.

Problem is i would then have bigger discs on the back than the front.

[afterburner555]

Hi Dan,

Very interrested indeed in the 330mm rears.

Will defo take one off you.

[Dan@DB-Power]

This is sounding very interesting.

Problem is i would then have bigger discs on the back than the front.

Thats a good thing :) loads of cars have bigger rear discs than fronts :wack:

[scott_d]

Have you seen these calipers?
http://www.rallydesign.co.uk/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=562_588&products_id=11370
4 pot with handbrake mechanism, takes solid disks too

[Dan@DB-Power]

Have you seen these calipers?
http://www.rallydesign.co.uk/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=562_588&products_id=11370
4 pot with handbrake mechanism, takes solid disks too

:nod:

Problem is that the 200's aren't very forgiving on space around the discs due to all the arms etc in the way :(

I'll look in to trying them though, but they will work out much more expensive than this idea :(

Dan :thumbs:

[h15vtc]

when will this rear kit with calliper be ready and wats a rough price ? well interested

[Dan@DB-Power]

Hi H15vtc

I should hopefully finalise the kit within 2 weeks :) as for price not quite sure yet I wouldn't have though anymore than originally stated but peeps may need to source the calipers (easy/cheap enough :) )

[h15vtc]

i might have to get in on these then as i dont think the k sport rears are going to be around any time soon and wont be cheep lol

[Muttly]

Dan, how much work do you reckon it'd be to fit a S14 front caliper on the back with a Z32 setup?? I know it should be possible as Nissan did it with Brembos on the Z-Tune R34.

[R360-200SX]

Im interested too Dan

[Cookie]

Dan, how much work do you reckon it'd be to fit a S14 front caliper on the back with a Z32 setup?? I know it should be possible as Nissan did it with Brembos on the Z-Tune R34.

Someone did something simular before , but they had issues with the brake bias and needed an adjuster.

C.

[Dan@DB-Power]

Dan, how much work do you reckon it'd be to fit a S14 front caliper on the back with a Z32 setup?? I know it should be possible as Nissan did it with Brembos on the Z-Tune R34.

Already tried it :nod: but the problem I had was trying to mount it, which was a nightmare and just wasn't happening :(

Dan :thumbs:

[dannyb1986]

ive just read all this thread and iam really confused! basically dan ive got an s13, whihc iam doing a 5 stud conversion on, also iam putting z32 rear calipers on! so basically what can you offer me disc and pads wise? price and size if you can!!

[Muttly]

Someone did something simular before , but they had issues with the brake bias and needed an adjuster.

C.It'd probably work with a front upgrade as the Z-Tune had a 6 pot up front.

[VIDAL BABBOON]

Also interested in a kit :nod:

[ady_mi16]

will definetly take a kit once its ready!

[Dan@DB-Power]

ive just read all this thread and iam really confused! basically dan ive got an s13, whihc iam doing a 5 stud conversion on, also iam putting z32 rear calipers on! so basically what can you offer me disc and pads wise? price and size if you can!!

Hi Danny

I should be able to offer you a 322 rear brake kit for your calipers. I have also found larger pads to cope with the larger discs :)

As for price, unknown at the moment as they are undergoing their final testing etc :)

Dan :thumbs:

[-Al-]

Hi Guys

Muttly, The R33 GTS-T set-up is the same as the Z32 one, so the kit will work :)

Airbog, yep all you will need are the calipers, pads and hoses :)

200sxs14, no probs chap :)

Please note though that the Z32 big brake kit will be more expensive than this one as the discs cost alot more :(

Update on the S14 big brake kit using standard S14 calipers. I have been doing some research and have changed the kit design. My new plan will be 330mm rear discs, standard S14 caliper for the handbrake and then an additional 2 pot caliper for the main rear braking. This I think would be a much better and more effective design. :nod: Although this will be your choice as I will design the kit so you can use your standard S14 calipers for braking/hand brake or you can choose to use it just for handbrake and then purchase the 2 pot rear calipers which will be inexpensive aswell :)

Dan :thumbs:


That sounds interesting mate :thumbs:

[dannyb1986]

what size would they be dan any ideas?

[-Al-]

what size would they be dan any ideas?

322mm I do belive :)

[Airbog]

To Dan - should it work with Z32 BMC?

[Dan@DB-Power]

To Dan - should it work with Z32 BMC?

:nod:

[dannyb1986]

any rough idea on price dan?

[tej]

this is sounding good.. didnt realise this was in development till Blue Boy mentioned it to me on Sat...

with regards to changing the rear calipers, Dan, am i correct in thinking you said we can keep the single pot caliper on there just for handbrake duty's, then wack the 2 pot caliper on as well? :)

also, will the discs be vented/drilled/grooved? (and will you be doing deals if we buy a front brake kit too :D )

[blue boy]

I thought that you were staying away so as not to spend money tej?

Any updates on testing yet Dan?

[tej]

I was just thinking that too you git!

i came into the traders section to have a look for some new shocks :wack:

now i've just priced up about £500 worth of brake bits!!

[blue boy]

It's always the way i'm afraid:wack:

[Dan@DB-Power]

Testing will start this weekend depending on the blooming weather :wack:

Tej, you are correct as far as the calipers goes :) they will be solid discs otherwise you can't fit vented discs under the standard calipers :( As for drilled/grooved unknow yet. I will find out more if the plan works :)

Dan :thumbs:

[tej]

sounds good :D lets hope the weather holds out.. then I'll start pressing on about package deals for fronts and rears :D :p

[alexjj]

and fitting ;) lol

[dannyb1986]

will you be doing vented discs for the z32 calipers dan?

[Dan@DB-Power]

will you be doing vented discs for the z32 calipers dan?

Vented, drilled and grooved :)

Dan :thumbs:

[dannyb1986]

nice1, any sneaky pics for me to have a look at?? :thumbs:

[JulesS14200]

havent read this thread to be honest but I'm drinking away at the shock of getting a quote for fitting my 322mm rears!!!!!!!!!! :eek:

I have some r34 gtr rear calipers as well, got any options with them?

[dannyb1986]

are gtr brakes the gold brembo ones?

[Dan@DB-Power]

I'll try working out a GTR rear bake kit if you want, what size disks do you have at the moment?

Dan :thumbs:

[dannyb1986]

have you got a rough date dan when they will be available?

[Dan@DB-Power]

have you got a rough date dan when they will be available?

not yet no :no:

The weather held me off this weekend, will try again next weekend :)

Dan :thumbs:

[mags200]

do u sell Z32 rear calipers and disks as a set? basically going 5 stud and want to get some Z32 on the back??

[alexjj]

Me an all brother... Looking for one stop Z32 upgrade shop for the rear... I sent some details to Dan, he is mulling it over I think.

[mags200]

:nod: id snap one up straight away!

[drifter]

Me an all brother... Looking for one stop Z32 upgrade shop for the rear... I sent some details to Dan, he is mulling it over I think.

I would be interested in that :nod:

[dannyb1986]

ive got calipers but would be interested in pads and discs together? ny chance of a group buy

[P4ULY]

Interested in a kit for standard S14 calipers :)

[Damo]

intressted in the s13 rear for z32 drilled and groved and pads.

damo

[-Al-]

Me an all brother... Looking for one stop Z32 upgrade shop for the rear... I sent some details to Dan, he is mulling it over I think.

:nod:

[SECCY]

Interested in this, any updates??

[dannyb1986]

dan any news yet in when these will be available, also will these be a group buy or just a kit available to buy?

[Dan@DB-Power]

Hi Danny

I haven't had a chance yet, due to bad weather and my S14 friend not being free :(

They will start as a group buy, as I'm a nice guy :)

Dan :thumbs:

[markr]

whats the latest on these dan???

[Dan@DB-Power]

Hi Mark

Sorry chap not had a chance yet have been moving house all weekend and until Wednesday :(

Will get on with them after JAE though :)

Dan :thumbs:

[Clouder_sx]

oooooh this sounds good as my rear disks are buggered, and Dan there is SHED loads of interest mate by the looks of it, nice one :thumbs:

I'd be keen for bigger disks as cant be assed with z32 upgrade, and ofcourse some 330s for the front. Will keep an eye on this thread :)

[dannyb1986]

sorry to keep hastling dan but any idea of date etc yet, as iam trying to plan when i can fot my nice new calipers!

[Dan@DB-Power]

Hi Danny

No ideas on date yet, but I am working on it :)

[markr]

any pics dan, to get people more interested.... so we can see what its going to be like??

[Muttly]

I was at Prodrift here today and a S14 had a twin caliper setup. I couldn't get a shot of how things were mounted but I did get a few shost with the wheels in place. I'll post the up later. The handbrake was on the original caliber and the twin piston worked as the foot brake.

[Muttly]

Here you go.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y42/muttly_irl/brakes/IMG_0271_th.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y42/muttly_irl/brakes/IMG_0270_th.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y42/muttly_irl/brakes/IMG_0269_th.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y42/muttly_irl/brakes/IMG_0268_th.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y42/muttly_irl/brakes/IMG_0267_th.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y42/muttly_irl/brakes/IMG_0265_th.jpg

[Dan@DB-Power]

Cheers Muttly

That's interesting they are using the exact same caliper I was thinking of using, just much smaller discs :)

Dan :thumbs:

[Matty2Fatty]

Woah! :eek: how on earth does that work?

Is one for the foot brake one for the hand brake?

Ohh & Dan I'm interested in a Z32/S13 brake kit now I have some 17's again :thumbs:

I don't mind being a guinypig as I'm only round the corner too :thumbs:

[Dan@DB-Power]

Woah! :eek: how on earth does that work?

Is one for the foot brake one for the hand brake?

Ohh & Dan I'm interested in a Z32/S13 brake kit now I have some 17's again :thumbs:

I don't mind being a guinypig as I'm only round the corner too :thumbs:


Correct, you keep the crap caliper purely for handbrake and the twin pot does what it's best at :nod:

Cheers for the offer matty, but I've got an S13 that I can try it on :wack: :D

Dan :thumbs:

[James_S]

Dan,

Got a bit lost following this thread.. with everyones different questions etc!!

basically i have a 14A and i have the k-sport 356mm 8 pots on the front and thus my rears look awful!!

ideally i want bigger vented/grooved disks on the rear, that run off the standard calliper as i dont want to spend a fortune on bigger callipers again.. i just want to fill the space, what can you do or have planned!!


THanks very much,

James

[Dan@DB-Power]

Dan,

Got a bit lost following this thread.. with everyones different questions etc!!

basically i have a 14A and i have the k-sport 356mm 8 pots on the front and thus my rears look awful!!

ideally i want bigger vented/grooved disks on the rear, that run off the standard calliper as i dont want to spend a fortune on bigger callipers again.. i just want to fill the space, what can you do or have planned!!


THanks very much,

James

Hi James

If you are keeping your standard caliper then your options are limited :nod:

The one kit I am working on uses a 330mm rear disc which has a bracket designed to take the standard caliper and a 2 pot caliper. The standard caliper is purely for the handbrake and the 2 pot is there purely for the brakes :)

The discs are solid though (no vents) as you can't get thin vented discs and the standard caliper will only allow discs upto about 12mm :( I will try and get them grooved though :)

Dan :thumbs:

[James_S]

Thanks for that dan!!

so what you reccomend being my best overal option for bigger disks on the rear?!

Id only want one calliper really..

Without to much faffing around!! :nod:

[blue boy]

Dan, what calipers wil the kit be using?

Also will you need to have longer brake hoses. Last thing i want to do is replace my braided hoses

[Dan@DB-Power]

Thanks for that dan!!

so what you reccomend being my best overal option for bigger disks on the rear?!

Id only want one calliper really..

Without to much faffing around!! :nod:

You have 2 options really. Faff around and have 1 caliper i.e. Z32 rear brake set-up. Or the easy option with 2 calipers :wack:

Blueboy:-

Not sure about the hoses yet, I'll try and keep the caliper in the same place as the existing one though :) As for the caliper choice, not 100% sure which one I'm going fo yet :)

Dan :thumbs:

[James_S]

I'll take the easy option, any ideas on price, and timing?! :thumbs:

[Muttly]

What about us Z32 guys? Any chance of a bigger disc? Ideally I'd love to match the 345 front I got off you as it really fill the wheel!

[Dan@DB-Power]

The Z32 kit I'm trying used 322mm rear discs which are vented :)

Dan :thumbs:

[doninphi]

two calipers does look a bit mad to me.

I'd just like a bigger disc to space out the stock caliper, surely that alone will make it alot more powerful?

Plus making it look better also.

I'm gonna be buying the 330 kit off you in october methinks, so want a rear disc kit to match it.

Be dissapointed if I have to get new calipers too, and run them both!!!

[dannyb1986]

dan do you do 300zx discs now?

[Dan@DB-Power]

two calipers does look a bit mad to me.

I'd just like a bigger disc to space out the stock caliper, surely that alone will make it alot more powerful?

Plus making it look better also.

I'm gonna be buying the 330 kit off you in october methinks, so want a rear disc kit to match it.

Be dissapointed if I have to get new calipers too, and run them both!!!

You can just run the normal caliper but you will have a choice to run 2 if you want :)

Dan :thumbs:

[Dan@DB-Power]

Right I have almost finished the Z32 rear big brake kit pics:-

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x284/db-power/Z32BBK2.jpg
http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x284/db-power/Z32BBK.jpg

Larger pads to suit:-
http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x284/db-power/Z32BBKpads.jpg

I'll try and get it released in a couple of weeks :)

Also will start major work on the S14 rear brake kit soon :)

[30PSI]

Hey dan

Can you pm the internal, external diameters of the drum? Interested to see if this can be used on my car :thumbs:

[Muttly]

Any chance of plani discs on the upgrade for the z32 rear? I'm not a fan of drilled and grooved.

[Damo]

oohhhh i can see this will end up costing me a few £££ to get a matching disc up front for the 315mm kit plus pads all round :(

[Dan@DB-Power]

I should be able to get plain discs yep :)

Martin, I'll try and measure some for you next week :)

Dan :thumbs:

[Muttly]

I should be able to get plain discs yep :):thumbs:

[dannyb1986]

and ive just ordered some normal pads now!! you know how you said £140 at the start, is that discs only?

[Dan@DB-Power]

and ive just ordered some normal pads now!! you know how you said £140 at the start, is that discs only?

:nod:

The £140 kit will be the S14 rear brake kit though, the Z32 big brake kit will be more as the discs alone are about £150 :wack:

I would think the Z32 rear brake kit would be £220 for the drilled and grooved discs, the pads will be about £30 for normal oem quality :)

Dan :thumbs:

[dannyb1986]

ok still cheap though if you ask me!!

[-Al-]

I'd guess the calipers are not included in the Z32 kit Dan?

[paullen]

Dan, I'm sure there is a gap in the market for a full Z32 upgrade kit!

Ie all the bits you need to upgrade S14 rears to Z32s

[subek]

Have you been thinking about rear kit for brembo calipers from Z33? I think that this is a good idea.

[Muttly]

Have you been thinking about rear kit for brembo calipers from Z33? I think that this is a good idea.This is actually a good idea since the spacing on the bolts is different from the SX carrier to the Z33 carrier. A spacer plate to suit SX on the inside and the Z33 on the outside.

[Ken]

Any more news on the Z32 kit Dan?

[Dan@DB-Power]

Hi Ken

Yes chap, the bracket works I just need to do a nice techy drawing of the bracket design and get them produced :)

Dan :thumbs:

[Ken]

:thumbs: :cool:

[paullen]

Can you PM me when you have the bracket and discs ready please :) Just bought some Z32 calipers. I could get you a price for knocking the brackets up if you like? I used to work for a rather good engineering firm ;)

[doninphi]

Yup, I'll take the rear disc kit to run with just one caliper when ready, will you be able to supply the bigger pads to suit just runnin the stock caliper too?

My rears are fubar'd! pm me when ready!

I hope you can get them in the same kinda pattern to match the front cross drilled/grooved 330mm setup?

[Dan@DB-Power]

Yup, I'll take the rear disc kit to run with just one caliper when ready, will you be able to supply the bigger pads to suit just runnin the stock caliper too?



I hope you can get them in the same kinda pattern to match the front cross drilled/grooved 330mm setup?

:nod:

&

:nod:

Dan :thumbs:

[Fake Ben Taylor]

waiting eagerly on the z32 kit dan :D:D

[pdh 14a]

Any more advance on the normal standard caliper big brake disk conversion? :thumbs:

[Dan@DB-Power]

Any more advance on the normal standard caliper big brake disk conversion? :thumbs:

not yet :no: I need a rear caliper. Shoudl be sourcing a rear caliper soon though :)

Dan :thumbs:

[Fake Ben Taylor]

do you need a fou stud s13 to test some??;):D

ive just got some z32 calipers lol

[Dan@DB-Power]

do you need a fou stud s13 to test some??;):D

ive just got some z32 calipers lol

Already have an S13 and some Z32 calipers ;)

I now have some S14 rear calipers on the way so will now make more progress on this kit :) I also will be spending more time with DB-power at the end of the month as I am leaving my current job then :)

Dan :thumbs:

[Fake Ben Taylor]

fancy donating a set to charity? :wack::D

what sort of time frame is the kit going to be? now thats its more or less complete :)

[Dan@DB-Power]

fancy donating a set to charity? :wack::D

what sort of time frame is the kit going to be? now thats its more or less complete :)

Give me 3 weeks :)

Dan :thumbs:

[Ady682]

will keep an eye on this thread, interested in Z32 setup for s14

[Fake Ben Taylor]

Give me 3 weeks :)

Dan :thumbs:

coool

[markr]

any info on these dan????

[Dan@DB-Power]

Hi Mark

I'm hopefully going to spend all day tomorrow on it and should have a template made :)

I'll post up the results on Monday :)

Dan :thumbs:

[big_dude]

will be putting an order in when these done dan! so hurry up! lol

[Damo]

Right I have almost finished the Z32 rear big brake kit pics:-

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x284/db-power/Z32BBK2.jpg
http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x284/db-power/Z32BBK.jpg

Larger pads to suit:-
http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x284/db-power/Z32BBKpads.jpg

I'll try and get it released in a couple of weeks :)

Also will start major work on the S14 rear brake kit soon :)

let me know when the its released dan as im deffo going to what something like this to go with the front setup

thanks
damo

[big_dude]

oh any news on the kit for s14's, using the twin caliper setup? also, will there be a group buy?

[Dan@DB-Power]

Right update on the S14 set-up.

The bracket has been designed and am waiting for a metal template to be made, if that works then they will be sent off for laser cutting :)

I have yet to test it on a car, but I am guessing that the original handbrake cables will be used but you will need new rear lines. It was a case of one or the other and the hoses are an easier option :nod:

Anyhow here's a couple of pics:-

Disc size comparision:-
http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x284/db-power/Comparison.jpg
:eek:

Caliper set-up:-
http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x284/db-power/Done.jpg

Dan :thumbs:

[Richy_Boy]

How big are those rears again :eek: Is there anything a touch smaller as they look bigger than my 315's and surely would introduce a brake balance problem on most cars? (then again, the shite S14 caliper might make it work ok!)

I'm assuming the Z32 caliper is an optional extra i.e. you can run both or just the original caliper on the disc?

Rich

[Dan@DB-Power]

How big are those rears again :eek: Is there anything a touch smaller as they look bigger than my 315's and surely would introduce a brake balance problem on most cars? (then again, the shite S14 caliper might make it work ok!)

I'm assuming the Z32 caliper is an optional extra i.e. you can run both or just the original caliper on the disc?

Rich

Hi Rich

The BMC will sort out the brake balance, and despite the rear discs being larger the braking at the fronts will still be stronger :nod:

There are 2 ways of running this kit, you can use the standard S14 caliper as both the footbrake and handbrake, this will offer some benegit but not much,

or you can use the S14 caliper just for the handbrake and the additional 2 pot as the footbrake, this will see much better results :)

I will be testing them on a brake tester though to make sure the balance is ok :)

Dan :thumbs:

[Richy_Boy]

Sounds great. My only problem with the rears is they cook from too much heat - no matter what pad I run they warp after a session on track, but return straight when they cool down again :wack:

Although, only having to connect up the Z32 caliper makes this a very nice, easy solution :nod: Now... who has some Z32 calipers for sale? :D lol

ps. If you want a set tested at brands next month.. let me know :thumbs:

[Dan@DB-Power]

Richy it's not a Z32 caliper chap, it's a much cheaper answer ;)

If I get the brackets in time, then consider yourself a tester :)

Dan :thumbs:

[Richy_Boy]

ohhhh I'll search for thread for prices on calipers then :D

Rich

[VIDAL BABBOON]

Dan any idea of cost on the S14 set up yet ?

Will you be providing the new caliper/hoses or is that down to us ?

[Dan@DB-Power]

Hi Vidal

Price I am hoping would be around the £150 mark :), I will be able provide hoses, but calipers will be up to you guys :) I'll let you guys know what the calipers are when they deffo work :)

Dan :thumbs:

[VIDAL BABBOON]

Top man :thumbs:

Make sure im on the list as i don't want to miss this one :no:

[pdh 14a]

With yet another weekend looming! chop chop:whip: :D

[VIDAL BABBOON]

All good things Paul all good things ;)

[Dan@DB-Power]

and all next week and the following. Tis my last day in full time employment and the start of full time my own boss :D

Progress will be quick from now on, and much research and development on 200's :nod:

[pdh 14a]

and all next week and the following. Tis my last day in full time employment and the start of full time my own boss :D

Progress will be quick from now on, and much research and development on 200's :nod:

:cool: :thumbs:

[pdh 14a]

All good things Paul all good things ;)

My rear pads are like credit cards now,pointless doing the job twice :D :thumbs:

[VIDAL BABBOON]

My rear pads are like credit cards now,pointless doing the job twice :D :thumbs:

With the amount of use the cars gets im sure you could make them last another 12 months lol

[pdh 14a]

With the amount of use the cars gets im sure you could make them last another 12 months lol

Yep your probably right there :wack: :thumbs:

[dukey]

any news on this one???

[Dan@DB-Power]

Hi Dukey

Yep the twin caliper one is almost ready for full production, and so is the 322mm Z32 kit :)

About another week and then I'll get all the brackets etc mass produced :)

So should be max about 1 month :)

Dan :thumbs:

[dukey]

well its sooner than i need it but will eventually be wanting this!!!!

need to sort the fronts first lol

chris

[bladerider]

I realise I havent read the whole thread,

But why bother running twin rear calipers when you could just run a single four pot caliper instead ???

Could the front calipers not be made to work or is there something preventing this ??

Im interested as Im about to put some 355's on the front of the Orange for track work and want something pretty beefy on the rear to compliment.

Cheers,

J.

[Richy_Boy]

Yes there is something stopping this... handbrake! :D

It's illegal for a car to rely on a hydrolic handbrake, so you need a cable in there connecting to the caliper mechanism. Obviously there isn't one on any front caliper.. and many rear calipers rely on a 'drum brake' for the handbrake.

This leaves your options quite short.. you either fit a Z32/simular setup where you need the ball ache of changing all the brake cables for longer ones :cry: or you fit two calipers.. one [small one] for handbrake and one [large one] for stopping the car on the move.

Hope that helps...

Rich

[30PSI]

I thought Dans kit would retain the drum handbrake?

[Richy_Boy]

Who's got a drum rear brake :wack: The S13 might have one, but the S14(a) relies on one single pot caliper for both handbrake and braking... :nod:

Rich

[Dan@DB-Power]

There is an alternative that I'm working on :)

Looks like this:-

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x284/db-power/23092007909.jpg

Dan :thumbs:

[-Al-]

:smitten: I need that on my car! :wack:

[justbutts]

There is an alternative that I'm working on :)

Looks like this:-

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x284/db-power/23092007909.jpg

Dan :thumbs:

very interesting :nod: is that a cable operated 4 pot? any idears on the damages for the calipers, what size discs you could run with that? vented?

mark:)

[VIDAL BABBOON]

Noooooo

This is going to cost me lol

[Ken]

Who's got a drum rear brake :wack:

I have:nod: and so has everyone who has converted to Z32, Z33 or Gtr etc rear's

[Dan@DB-Power]

As for the wilwood calipers, they will be 320mm x 22mm vented discs.

The calipers are 4 pots and are handbrake equipped :) the handbrake doesn't operate the pistons though :)

Dan :thumbs:

[dukey]

does the spring and what looks like levers operate the handbrake then????


is that strong enough?(if it is that i mean)

where on earth would we get those calipers from?

chris

[justbutts]

As for the wilwood calipers, they will be 320mm x 22mm vented discs.

The calipers are 4 pots and are handbrake equipped :) the handbrake doesn't operate the pistons though :)

Dan :thumbs:

stupid question will they fit under 17 inch wheels with that spring mech on them :confused: or are we looking at larger wheels:(

[Damo]

this is looking very cool dan

damo

[paullen]

Now they look like a good idea! I'm gonna have to sell my 300zx rear twin pots :)

[Digglett]

come on DAN hurry up:D

very eager:nod:

[big_dude]

so how does the h/brake work with those? and would those of us who havent got the seperate h/brake mechanism be able to run them

[pdh 14a]

Meanwhile back on the ranch :wack:
For us poor folk who just want to beef up the looks,whats the e.t.a on the bigger disks and brackets one?(With the standard calipers!) what size will they be and will they fit under stock wheels? :thumbs:

[Dan@DB-Power]

Hi Guys

Kit will be trialled this weekend, maybe during the week if my mates available :) if successful the brackets etc will be mass produced and ready in about 1 month :)

It is a very complicated kit though :wack:

As for the wilwood calipers, I will try them out at the same time, and I may need to make small handbrake cables to fit onto the existing S14 ones to make easy fitment :)

Dan :thumbs:

[Fake Ben Taylor]

timeframe on the big rears?:)

edit: realise thats not very specific lol i mean for the z32 caliper kit :)

[Fake Ben Taylor]

little bump so my edit gets read:)

[Dan@DB-Power]

Hi Ben

About the same as the other kit, as they will all be lasercut at the same time :)

Dan :thumbs:

[VIDAL BABBOON]

Dan can you edit the first post and put all the options available in there lol

Im now getting completely lost lol

[VIDAL BABBOON]

Thank you Dan you are a top man :thumbs:

Now i have to decide all over again lol

[Evilchap]

We're all waiting with baited breath on this one Dan! Any news?

[Dan@DB-Power]

Hi Guys

The trial on the twin caliper set-up was a success so I am no moving ahead with getting them produced :)

Pics:-

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x284/db-power/271020071034.jpg
http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x284/db-power/271020071033.jpg

Dan :thumbs:

[Evilchap]

I was expection something slighty larger in terms of caliper on the back... However, what size are those disks?

[Richy_Boy]

Cool :nod:

The calipers are twin pots so would be roughtly the same as Z32 rears... without the hassle for S14 drivers :D

Rich

[markr]

i was hoping fior the wilwood ones... any news on thoughs dan?????

[Dan@DB-Power]

Evilchap:-

The discs are 330mm, they are a bit ott but there aren't many choices of disc with only 10mm thickness :(

As Richy boy said, they are too much different in size to the Z32 calipers :)

Mark:- The wilwood ones aren't a problem with fitment, but I need to find a place to make handbrake cables as the S14 ones are too short :(

[Evilchap]

330mm :eek: Will those fit under my wheels??? I only have 17s :wack:

[pdh 14a]

330mm :eek: Will those fit under my wheels??? I only have 17s :wack:

Same here,in fact i'd like a 310 option to get my standards on in an emergency? :thumbs:

[Evilchap]

i think the issue is the slim discs, as they're slim, they're the only size available. Test fit required me thinks.

[Dan@DB-Power]

They will fit under 17's no worries :nod:

Thats a 17" wheel in the pic above :nod:, they may even fit under standard wheels but I didn't have one to hand :(

[Muttly]

Dan I was just reading on the spec of the z32 rear upgrade and I'm pretty sure I know what the rear disc is off so I'm wondering, well more looking for confirmation that the disc is also made as a plain disc by brembo? If so how much will it be with the plain disc over the grooved/drilled

Also will there be any clearance issue on the inside of the z32 caliper as in does any of it need to be ground back or is it just a snug fit?

[Dan@DB-Power]

Hi Muttly

Yep Brembo make them as a plain disc :nod: I haven't got prices on them yet :no:

As for the calipers, no machining shoudl be necessary but it is snug :nod:

Dan :thumbs:

[Evilchap]

Are you supplying the calipers, or just the brackets / discs / pads?

[Dan@DB-Power]

Are you supplying the calipers, or just the brackets / discs / pads?

Everything bar the calipers :)

Calipers are off a Vauxhall Vectra 1.8 or higher from 1996-2000ish, Vauxhall Calibra 16v, 2.5 or turbo 4x4, Cavalier 4x4 turbo :) So are readily available :)

Dan :thumbs:

[Evilchap]

are they rear calipers off these cars, just so I get the right thing ;)

Got a firm price yet?

[pdh 14a]

Will that much spare disk still be showing on the production ones? As the unused bit will rust to buggery,and the main reason i wanted these is for looks and a touch more stopping power! :thumbs:

[Dan@DB-Power]

Hi pdh 14a

Hopefully the larger pads will cover that area :nod:

Otherwise I can look into getting them coated so the unused area won't rust :) I'll get a price :)

Evilchap, the price in post 1 should be about spot on :)

Dan :thumbs:

[markr]

so if u find somewhere that makes hand brake cables... i can have a wilwood kit then....

maybe these will help you dan...

http://www.speedycables.co.uk/

http://www.rdb93.co.uk/

[tej]

Dan, can the twin caliper setup just be used with just the original caliper? (and then obviously upgraded later)

[blue boy]

Calipers are off a Vauxhall Vectra 1.8 or higher from 1996-2000ish, Vauxhall Calibra 16v, 2.5 or turbo 4x4, Cavalier 4x4 turbo :) So are readily available :)


I can see scrap yards and Vauxhall forums being pilleged for a while by us lot :D

[Dan@DB-Power]

Mark R, cheers for the links I'll drop the guys a call :)

Tej Correct, you don't need to run the 2nd caliper :)

Blue Boy, thats the greatness of it as these calipers should be found easily :)

[blue boy]

So they are rear calipers then? Loads on ebay going for next to nothing!

How does this kit actually work? I am assuming that the orignal calipers are blanked off from the brake system and just provide clamping force when handbrake applied but i thought that they would have to be part of the system to operate properly. If this is the case then do both calipers provide braking force?

[Dan@DB-Power]

Nah the handbrake is just sprung loaded :) so no need for fluid :nod:

Although I guess you could connect both up for twin foot brakes :D It would either work very well or be crap due to the lack of fluid :(

Dan :thumbs:

[Evilchap]

Send me a kit with a T-piece and i'll test it for you, see if both can be used at once ;)

I still dont have my cursed fronts working properly, if I ever meet the joker that sold me those sodding calipers, he'll wish he wasn't born.

[boss]

any updates on the timescale side of things dan?

my rear brakes are fubar'd and would rather go straight for these!

[tej]

hmm... could you use the Z32 rear caliper with option 1? :)

[justbutts]

i would be very interested in the wilwood setup please let me know if they are going ahead as my front pads are shot and if im putting wilwood calipers on the rear i might get some wilwood calipers for the front as well :wack:

[Dan@DB-Power]

Boss:- in about 1 months time :)

Tej:- no :( as the discs are too thin for the Z32 calipers.

Justbutts:- They are deffo going ahead, I have the brackets almost ready to go, just need to sort out cables :)

Dan :thumbs:

[tej]

Tej:- no :( as the discs are too thin for the Z32 calipers.


no worries, it was literally only because the Z32 calipers have nissan stamped on them like the S14 fronts

[Mark]

Everything bar the calipers :)

Calipers are off a Vauxhall Vectra 1.8 or higher from 1996-2000ish, Vauxhall Calibra 16v, 2.5 or turbo 4x4, Cavalier 4x4 turbo :) So are readily available :)

Dan :thumbs:

They are the easiest pads in the world to change :nod: literally 10 mins each side, takes longer to remove the wheel :wack:

Actually my sister has a 1.8 Vectra, i wonder if she would miss her rear brakes :wack:

[big_dude]

i think a lot of us maybe getting ourselves christmas prezzies!
you employing santa to deliver these dan :thumbs:

[Dan@DB-Power]

i think a lot of us maybe getting ourselves christmas prezzies!
you employing santa to deliver these dan :thumbs:

Maybe :D

Right guys I need to know what options of discs you want.

Who's happy for plain or who would like Grooved? It woudl cost more but I can add it as an option :)

[Fake Ben Taylor]

id prefer grooved :) on the z32 kit that is

with going caliper handbrake the drifters might like drilled too to try keep the discs cool :)

[andy535is]

hi dan are you only offering the 330mm rear discs , i have your 315 kit on the front and i would not like to put on bigger rears :eek: can you make kits with either 300mm or 315 for the rear ?:)

[Cluck]

hi dan are you only offering the 330mm rear discs , i have your 315 kit on the front and i would not like to put on bigger rears :eek: can you make kits with either 300mm or 315 for the rear ?:)
simple solution .... get bigger front discs ;)

[Dan@DB-Power]

The bigger discs on the rear will be fine, as they won't have the same braking force as the fronts :)

Dan

[pdh 14a]

hi dan are you only offering the 330mm rear discs , i have your 315 kit on the front and i would not like to put on bigger rears :eek: can you make kits with either 300mm or 315 for the rear ?:)

I am with andy on this :( bigger disks on the rear will look silly IMHO!
Is ther any possibility of something slightly smaller?
Pretty please :wack:

[Dan@DB-Power]

I'll have a look but I can't see it being easy to find some :(

Dan :thumbs:

[pdh 14a]

I'll have a look but I can't see it being easy to find some :(

Dan :thumbs:

Thanks Dan! I hope i'm wrong,but i think a few will be thinking along these lines! :thumbs:

[big_dude]

drilled and grooved if possib le, to match the front 345's

[bobbitt]

i think big rears looks good for the record - im with u dan

[Sideways14a]

So this kit is fine with just the stock caliper and no vectra bits then? Obviously the braking wont be as good but still an improvement over the crud rear setup at the moment.

Prices? Sorry i am going to be a newbie and not bother searching ;)

[Dan@DB-Power]

So this kit is fine with just the stock caliper and no vectra bits then? Obviously the braking wont be as good but still an improvement over the crud rear setup at the moment.

Prices? Sorry i am going to be a newbie and not bother searching ;)

Hi Sideways

Yep correct, the bracket will be the same so you can add the vectra calipers at a later date if you wish :)

Price is in post 1 :)

[pdh 14a]

Has a normal s14/a wheel been tried over these yet? :thumbs:

[Dan@DB-Power]

Has a normal s14/a wheel been tried over these yet? :thumbs:

:no:

I think it will have to be something to try when the 1st kit is done :( As i don't have access to an S14 or a standard wheel :(

[pdh 14a]

:no:

I think it will have to be something to try when the 1st kit is done :( As i don't have access to an S14 or a standard wheel :(

Ok thanks Dan! Still trying to mull over all the pros and cons! :thumbs:

[bobbitt]

what about the bigger pads for the vectra calipers? how much are they?

[Dan@DB-Power]

what about the bigger pads for the vectra calipers? how much are they?

no ideas yet, I'm still trying to get them to fit :)

Dan :thumbs:

[Evilchap]

Just for clarification, can you confirm it's rear calipers, from a Mk1/Mk2 vectra or rear Calibre calipers, or Cavalier 4x4 rear calipers are the only ones we can use?

[Dan@DB-Power]

Hi Ben

Yep the rears, and it's the Calibra not the Calibre :)

Omega ones may fit and have larger pistons. I'll see if they will fit :)

Dan :thumbs:

[bobbitt]

no ideas yet, I'm still trying to get them to fit :)

Dan :thumbs:


ok then - i ve ordered my vectra raer calipers!