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I thought id make use of this section :) and put my on going money pit i mean project of an S13 up.
A bit of background, firstly ive had the car for about three years, when I bought it the big ends had already gone :annoyed: so long story short I swapped it for an engine I bought of here from Big Dave who had bought it from Kenny S13.
I swapped it all over and it was fine for a while although the body work needed doing :whip: .
So when I got the money together I went for a Bodykit from DME and some Chargespeed wings from SRB and a full respray in MG trophy blue.
I decided to do most the work myself with some friends, my next door neighbours body shop and a friend of my Dads.
It sounded like a good idea at the time save some money learn some new skills etc, but in hindsight I wouldunt do it again :cry: the amount of effort and time it took just to fit and prep the kit has made sure that if I do another car ill happily pay a reputable body shop 2000 pounds to do it for me.:nod:
After the car was sprayed (at 2 in the morning) everything was good for a while until one fateful Friday at my local Tesco's, id finished work and felt like crap and thought id cheer myself up with a new game for my 360, it didnt work like that though I caught a kerb whilst parking and I ended up ripping half of my front bumper off, along with one of my wings :cry: :cry: :cry: :annoyed: .
So the car was back off the road I was gutted and had to take the bumper and wing off to attempt a repair, I managed to fibreglass the front bumper and wing back together to not a bad standard:Plug: considering it was the first time id had a proper go at fibreglassing something substatial.
The bumper and the wing then went off to my neighbours bodyshop to be prepped (again) for spraying. In the mean time Mr Pointblank had started a for sale thread and from there my bank manger became my new best friend:D
I bought Tim's engine, intercooler, injectors, and exhaust aswell as his GT2540R Turbo.
I then needed all the supporting mods like clutch, new gasgets etc.
As things stand today the only parts of the jigsaw im missing are:
Z32 AFM
Turbo inlet to AFM piping
mapping session
everything else is here or on its way, and yet again its going to be a tight call for JAE sorry about the long post guys.
Save clutering up the thread pics are here:
http://s90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/clarity1056/
get it finished, will be an awsome car when its done. :thumbs:
looked lovely, and should be a go-er when its running again, that interccoler is huge :eek:
just not envying you having to get the engine and box out of your shed and down the steps
cheers for the engine :thumbs:
me and paul wished we'd take you up on the offer of the cuppa, if we'd known we were gunna be standing talking for two hours lol
get it finished, will be an awsome car when its done. :thumbs:
looked lovely, and should be a go-er when its running again, that interccoler is huge :eek:
just not envying you having to get the engine and box out of your shed and down the steps
cheers for the engine :thumbs:
me and paul wished we'd take you up on the offer of the cuppa, if we'd know we were gunna be standing talking for two hours lol
:D No problems mate hope it serves you well :nod: hopefully see you at JAE :)
Tis indeedy a tasty car and will be well worth it :nod:
Do you need your brick back too ? :wack:
Tis indeedy a tasty car and will be well worth it :nod:
Do you need your brick back too ? :wack:
You can keep the brick mate the bills in the post :D
Things for me to do this weekend are:
Fit clutch and Flywheel
Reassemble the plenumn with all ancillaries.
Fit and check all engine ancillaries.
My gearbox bits are coming next week so thats the last piece of the jigsaw.
Well started putting the plenum back together yesterday and am stuck on a few bits:annoyed:
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/clarity1056/plenum_1.jpg
On this pics the arrow points to a lug for something if I remeber correctly this is for a bracket that goes to where the runners meet the head is that right?
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/clarity1056/plenum_3.jpg
On this pic I cant figure out what pipes go on the two bits of pipe pointing down??
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/clarity1056/plenum_2.jpg
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/clarity1056/plenum_1.jpg
Also is the bracket that comes off the fuel rail pipe work supposed to bolt to hole number 2 in one of the above pics?
Can anyone shed any light on the above or have pictures of a fully assembled plenumn?
Cheers
Craig
I'm not 100%, but isn't one of those water take offs on the back of plenum for the turbo coolant feed?
dannyb1986
10-06-2007, 21:00
i thought they they were breather hoses?
No, the two going down are definately water feed. One goes to other part of plenum iirc, and other side goes to turbo.
Here's a pic from another thread (posted by Deek):
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n129/movitech/where2.jpg
Cheers for the info so far guys im getting there slowly :) I cant figure out how that fuel rail brackef fitted if I can sort that out I can whack the plenumn back on the engine.
Sideways Danny
12-06-2007, 18:24
fuel rail bolts to the lower manifold and there's a bracket that uses one of the plenum back plate bolts
fuel rail bolts to the lower manifold and there's a bracket that uses one of the plenum back plate bolts
Thats the one Danny just had another look and thought hmm theres no where else it could go and youve just confirmed it :thumbs:
Quick update: Got the plenumn and injectors all bolted up, ive also managed to strip one of the plenumn bolt hole threads :annoyed: so im going to drill and tap that today.
Still having a nightmare with all the ancillaries and whats missing, ive attached some pics below if you guys spot anything let me know :) . Also what do you guys do about fitting a flywheel and clutch whilst the engines out the car, i.e how do I brace the engine to do the flywheel bolts up.
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/clarity1056/engine3.jpg
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/clarity1056/engine2-1.jpg
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/clarity1056/engine1-1.jpg
Right another update, picked up an S14 gearbox from Girlracer:thumbs: on Friday night Saturday morning mate turned up took all the stuff away and came back 2 hours later :eek: with one rebuilt Os Giken 3 gear kit setup including new bearings etc.
Changed the timing belt and refitted the bottom pulley, ive had the day off today to finish the engine off, still stuck on some of the pipe work:annoyed: and still haveunt got around to fixing the stripped thread:whip: .
Hopefully all will be sorted today so I can drop it back in the bay next weekend, fingers crossed:)
Just fitting my new clutch release bearing, just posting some pics up of the process if someone can comfirm for me that the bearing is the right way round and the spring clip is located correctly, also how do you get the bearing on whilst its in the bell housing?
Old bearing, slightly larger and of a different design to the new one.
http://sxoc.co.uk/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=47110&stc=1&d=1183987181
New and old together, new one is slightly smaller.
http://sxoc.co.uk/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=47111&stc=1&d=1183987181
New bearing pressed onto sleeve.
http://sxoc.co.uk/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=47112&stc=1&d=1183987181
New bearing fitted on fork is the spring located properly?
http://sxoc.co.uk/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=47113&stc=1&d=1183987181
Pointblank
09-07-2007, 22:00
Looking good bud!
Sideways Danny
09-07-2007, 22:02
http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=47112&d=1183987173
spring clip goes the other way :)
http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=47112&d=1183987173
spring clip goes the other way :)
Yep cheers Danny thought it was a bit hard to get on:whip: :D found my manual in the end and managed to decipher the drawing.
Just got to get some grease to go on the shaft and pivot point.
Looking good bud!
Cheers Tim getting there mate ive got a few questions for you, when I remember what they were ill post them up:)
Pointblank
10-07-2007, 17:41
Cheers Tim getting there mate ive got a few questions for you, when I remember what they were ill post them up:)
No probs bud, give me a shout whenever!
Cheers,
Tim.
No probs bud, give me a shout whenever!
Cheers,
Tim.
Cheers Tim, one of them was does the braided water pipe from the turbo go straight to the back of the plenum? There usally a hard pipe that runs behind the head.
Cheers
Craig:)
Few pics from yesterday:)
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/clarity1056/backshot2.jpg
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/clarity1056/backshot.jpg
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/clarity1056/engine2-2.jpg
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/clarity1056/engine1-2.jpg
Sideways Danny
15-07-2007, 19:36
clutch suits you :ghey:
clutch suits you :ghey:
:D Somebody actually asked me if id had it sprayed that colour :eek: :ghey:
clutch suits you :ghey:
As does the blinged up front pulley :eek:
Pointblank
16-07-2007, 15:47
Cheers Tim, one of them was does the braided water pipe from the turbo go straight to the back of the plenum? There usally a hard pipe that runs behind the head.
Cheers
Craig:)
No bud, I took it all the way to the water rail under the inlet plenum as I wasn't using the std plenum!;) ;) ;)
Cheers,
Tim.
No bud, I took it all the way to the water rail under the inlet plenum as I wasn't using the std plenum!;) ;) ;)
Cheers,
Tim.
Ah thats right mate I remember :thumbs:
Right then thought id take advantage of the nice whether and run in to some more problems:whip: just for a change:wack:
First things first theres a small bore pipe that runs from the the back of the plenumn all the way round to the PCV valve I think it is:confused: does anyone know where it should plumb into plenum end? see pics below.
http://sxoc.co.uk/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=47596&stc=1&d=1185298399
http://sxoc.co.uk/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=47597&stc=1&d=1185298399
Secondly
Theres a hard pipe that runs along the cam cover turbo side any ideas where it starts and where it finishes? See pics below:
http://sxoc.co.uk/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=47598&stc=1&d=1185298551
http://sxoc.co.uk/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=47599&stc=1&d=1185298551
Thirdly :wack:
On attempting to rewire the starter I discovered a load of wires that werent actually attached to anything, theyve been cut:rolleyes: .
And some plugs that dont seem to have a home. Can someone please tell me if the starter wiring is correct and secondly and where the green plug goes? see pics below:
http://sxoc.co.uk/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=47600&stc=1&d=1185298734
http://sxoc.co.uk/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=47601&stc=1&d=1185298734
Also these are the plugs which were just flapping aboutm I think they go to the gearbox but honestly cant remember:whip:
http://sxoc.co.uk/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=47602&stc=1&d=1185298839
http://sxoc.co.uk/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=47603&stc=1&d=1185298839
http://sxoc.co.uk/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=47604&stc=1&d=1185298839
Think that green plug is meant to be connected to an ABS sensor and that that metal pip has a breater pipe that runs the length of the bulkhead to underneath the standard airbox.
Both a bit of guess work but you never know :smash:
As does the blinged up front pulley :eek:
Galv spray ;)
Spent all yesterday on it cut out the battery tray, and drilled a hole for the FMIC pipework going to sort out the cut wires in a bit.
Started putting the prop back on and got attacked by a spider so ive sent the cat in to clear him out .
Just went to put the clutch slave cylinder back on the box and its leaking:confused: do they leak when not under pressure?? Also the boots split so another day more problems:annoyed:
Right then long overdue update, ive since my last post sorted out the wiring refitted the prop bought and fitted a new slave cylinder and sorted various other things.
This is where im at as of tonight:
http://sxoc.co.uk/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=48757&stc=1&d=1188659305
http://sxoc.co.uk/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=48758&stc=1&d=1188659305
http://sxoc.co.uk/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=48759&stc=1&d=1188659305
alanjuggler
01-09-2007, 16:14
your hotside and inlet piping looks a hell of a lot better than mine :D
it's rather inspired me to actually get something properly sorted :D
I also sorted the absolute pain in the ass that was the intake pipework for the turbo, I brought a length of the flexi pipe that Tone used, but due to the many twists and bends till it gets to the hardpipes its not ideal and is actually quite fragile. I also had to cut it down to almost a third of its length so it would fit, aswell as spending 30 quid on Mikalor clamps and having to bodge the standard AFM on to an 80mm silicon reducer.
Things left to do:
Remake the radiator brackets as you can see from the pictures they are now to long.
Finish my heat shield
Make a bracket for the damper located on the suspension strut as the one that came with it is far from adequate.
Im waiting for a bottom rad hose to turn up, as I cant find the origiginal:annoyed: .
Im also afetr a complete set of cam cover bolts and an alternator bracket, also as of today I need a gearbox exhaust mounting bracket as I cant find either of the ones I had, again :annoyed:
Ive still got to finish sorting the intercooler piping.
Refit the exhaust when I get the bracket mentioned above.
And a load of other things like replace the dash mount gauges etc.:cry:
your hotside and inlet piping looks a hell of a lot better than mine :D
it's rather inspired me to actually get something properly sorted :D
Cheers buddy, im not 100% happy with it and I expect the flexi pipe to wear through eventually.
alanjuggler
01-09-2007, 16:28
my flexi pipe will be going over the top of the hotpipe rather than like yours, underneath.
i also felt flush the day i bought my flexi pipe from merlin and got the silver silicone coated pipe, outside / in. it looks a lot more substantial than the red one, which appears to be just one layer. might be worth it if you do experience problems with that one :)
my flexi pipe will be going over the top of the hotpipe rather than like yours, underneath.
i also felt flush the day i bought my flexi pipe from merlin and got the silver silicone coated pipe, outside / in. it looks a lot more substantial than the red one, which appears to be just one layer. might be worth it if you do experience problems with that one :)
Thats the plan mate if it fails ill go for the one you bought and run it over the top, unfortunately when I first fitted it it split near the middle so I had to cut it in half:cry:
You live and learn though its not always worth going for the cheaper option and in this case will possibly cost me 30 quid more than it needed to.
That was fun:wack: ive just put my entire exhaust system on with the car sat on ramps at the front, I nearly knocked myself at one point when I was tightening a nut and slipped and punched myself in the face oh the joys of S13 ownership :D
alanjuggler
02-09-2007, 17:01
sounds about right, i've done very similar before now..
my flexi pipe is 80% in - just have to chop it down to a length where it's not excessive. i'm trying to tuck it in just behind the headlight on top of the fuse box on the n/s - bonnet seems to shut fine - which is nice :D
sounds about right, i've done very similar before now..
my flexi pipe is 80% in - just have to chop it down to a length where it's not excessive. i'm trying to tuck it in just behind the headlight on top of the fuse box on the n/s - bonnet seems to shut fine - which is nice :D
cool, that fuse box position is a right pain in the ass I had to flip it over and back on itself to get the filter in.
Well tonight we got it running again, turns out id blown the fuel pump fuse:rolleyes: changed that and it started after a few cranks, running really lumpy.
Turned it off and had a look round to see if I could spot anything obvious and noticed one of the rear cam seals was missing:annoyed: luckily my Dad remembered where hed chucked all the crap from under the car and we managed to dig it out. I smeared it with some Hylamar and five minutes later we were back running. It was still quite lumpy though so I adjusted the CAS till it idled a bit better and adjuster the screw adjuster next to the AAC, FCID.
Weve now got it idleing ok but it doesunt start to well, so im waiting on a timeing light and some bolts for the coilpacks and then I think im about as far as I can get and then its over to the professionals.
sounds like timing to me mate, im sure you have checked it a million times but i would check the cambelt timing again,
Update on this got the timing sorted had a problem with the air pressure regulator but thanks to Sideways Danny and others thats hopefully now sorted. Ive had the day of today to finish installing my gauges put the battery back in and tidy the interior. Pics to follow:)
Latest pics as promised :)
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/clarity1056/latestpic2.jpg
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/clarity1056/latestpic1.jpg
Still to finish:
Mounting catch can properly.
Stereo wiring needs sorting
ECU wiring needs tidying
Refit missing interior panels etc
Roll cage
Fire extinguishers
Body shop
Mapping
New wheels
There are proabaly some other things ive forgotten :eek: but after a year off the road im starting to get excited again :D .
Sideways Danny
19-10-2007, 21:07
wow, thats the only time I've seen all the standard breathers used on such a modded engine. any reason you've kept the PCV valve?
whats the pvc valve danny
whats the pvc valve danny
See this thread ;) http://sxoc.co.uk/vbb/showthread.php?t=97737&highlight=pcv+valve Ive been trying to get hold of some of that replacement breather pipe Danny so I can reroute it all, but as off yet no go, so I havent bothered messing with it.
Sideways Danny
19-10-2007, 22:19
http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=205139
useful thread for oil hose :)
Right then ive decided to go with this configuration for the breathers (thanks to Steve for the diagram)
http://sxoc.co.uk/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=49892&stc=1&d=1192971662
My only question is where Steves shown the big breather hose does he just mean a small filter on the catch can??
Sideways Danny
21-10-2007, 14:05
a filter would be ideal but dont make it too small
What about those small K&N jobbies that I might of just bought off Ebay, why cant I wait :rolleyes:
Sideways Danny
21-10-2007, 14:22
lol, should be ok as long as its a large opening one not a 10mm one
lol, should be ok as long as its a large opening one not a 10mm one
19mm so should be ok cheers Danny :thumbs:
Finished at one today so got my catch tank test fitted, its a cheapo one so I need to modify it to suit. I also got 1 metre of breather hose through so cut that to length and need another metre to finish it which equals more money:cry: . On the plus side my panels will have been sprayed by the end of play tommorow (I hope) so ill be able to refit the wing and bumper Sunday:D
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/clarity1056/newpic.jpg
coming along nicely :thumbs:
coming along nicely :thumbs:
:thumbs:
Just had some bits turn up :D :D :D
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/clarity1056/wing.jpg
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/clarity1056/bumper2.jpg
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/clarity1056/bumper1.jpg
I cant belive how well they've come out considering I split the wing in half and the front bumper was obliterated. This means that if I pull my finger out by next weekend I could wait for it................................................ ...... Drive my car :D :D :D
Sideways Danny
03-11-2007, 19:07
This means that if I pull my finger out by next weekend I could wait for it................................................ ...... Drive my car :D :D :D
what a****ING STUPID IDEA :indiff:
;)
Looks really nice mate, is it Bayside blue by any chance?
MG trophy blue mate, I had planned to have it Bayside blue but the cost of the paint put me off.
Ah right, looks similar at first glance, but very nice all the same :)
Hopefully have mine all painted soon, although it's staying red as I haven't got the time for a colour change.
What bumper is it?
Ah right, looks similar at first glance, but very nice all the same :)
Hopefully have mine all painted soon, although it's staying red as I haven't got the time for a colour change.
What bumper is it?
Its a Version select bumper type 2 i think.
Had half a day on it today, got my sandwhich plate finally fitted had to use an oil seal out of an old oil filter which was too small , but once sat in the recess seems alright. Fitted the water temp adapter I had from Dano :Plug:. Tidied up all the gauge wiring and rearranged a few wires etc.
I need to check the sandwhich plate for leaks but my batterys dead:whip: so ill do that tommorow as long as thats ok thats me pretty much done and ill have to try and get the thing to Jez.
Anyway some pics from the end of play today:
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/clarity1056/bayshot2.jpg
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/clarity1056/bayshot1.jpg
djtreble
27-11-2007, 16:46
:edit: just read through the thread and saw the pics!
TOP COLOR!!!
exclusive187
28-11-2007, 19:03
The engine looks HOT!
Nice car ;)
Get the car back from Jez on Wednesday, the end is near.
my flexi pipe will be going over the top of the hotpipe rather than like yours, underneath.
i also felt flush the day i bought my flexi pipe from merlin and got the silver silicone coated pipe, outside / in. it looks a lot more substantial than the red one, which appears to be just one layer. might be worth it if you do experience problems with that one :)
Have you got a pic of how your piping runs mate I need to replace the orange stuff its to thin and touches the manifold.:)
Have you got a pic of how your piping runs mate I need to replace the orange stuff its to thin and touches the manifold.:)
Is this the one you got?
http://www.merlinmotorsport.co.uk/AIR-DUCTING-Flexible-Ducting-Silver-Silicon-Dual-Layer/c18_313_317/p4229/102MM-SILVER-DUAL-LAYER-DUCT-(PER-METRE)/product_info.html
Get to drive the car properly for the first time in two years in t-2 hours :D:D:D
hope its as good as your expecting fella!!
Yeah pretty good bit scary at the top end of third :eek: Need to get it on a track really to get the most out of it.
Still a few things to sort 1st on the list is the exhaust fumes in the cabin i stink of it after only a 20 minute drive. Should get the new wheels next week then ill post some new pics up :)
Excellent stuff :)
What is the estimated power? Any ideas why you are getting fumes in the cabin?
Id hope the power to be around 400 BHP im going to investigate the fumes this weekend its quite bad though.
Sorted the fumes out, one of the exhaust gasgets had gone, and fitted a front strut brace and washer fluid bag.
Also found a few loose connetions and a loose Mikalor clamp at the filter end :eek:
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