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bren
01-06-2007, 15:09
We have two new oil cooler products.

The first is the introduction of an Aeroquip type kits with sexy aluminium fittings. The kit includes three braided hoses with aluminium fittings, block attachment, remote filterhead, new oil filter, fittings and track spec 15 row oil cooler. The complete kit is £189.

http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=46024&stc=1&d=1180706600

We can also now offer a smaller cooler, more suited to fast road use rather than full on track or drift. The nature of the remote filter head kit is such that its difficult to implement a thermostatic set up. These smaller cores will offer reduced oil temps but wont cool to the extreme of the track spec set up so making them more suited to road use where the ultimate oil temps arent reached.

Note that the rows are comparitive with other brand oil coolers like the Mocal as used in our other oil cooler kits:

http://82.110.105.84/apexperformance.co.uk/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=&products_id=797&PHPSESSID=1b96bdab8cc0afc0260e4a8612278b00

http://82.110.105.84/apexperformance.co.uk/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=&products_id=796&PHPSESSID=1b96bdab8cc0afc0260e4a8612278b00

15 row track set up as usually offered:

http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=46025&stc=1&d=1180706804

11 row more suited to road use:

http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=46026&stc=1&d=1180706821
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AL_s13
01-06-2007, 17:21
would the 15 row kit be suited to an r32 gtr? or is it sx only?

bren
01-06-2007, 17:24
Id go larger, we do a 19 row for the Skylines.

AL_s13
01-06-2007, 17:27
What would the cost be for the 19 row?

bren
01-06-2007, 17:31
Just a tenner more.

ex-ctr
01-06-2007, 17:37
Just a tenner more.

i have a oilcooler kit on order, could i upgrade to one of these kits please

bren
01-06-2007, 17:38
The larger core? Its not a stock item so will be a couple of weeks yet, is that ok? The other kits landed today.

ex-ctr
01-06-2007, 18:45
The larger core? Its not a stock item so will be a couple of weeks yet, is that ok? The other kits landed today.

not sure if the 15 row would be better for me, would 19 row be overkill

bren
01-06-2007, 19:13
The 15 row is more than enough for a 200, the Skylines run hot hence my recommendation for the bigger unit.

ex-ctr
01-06-2007, 19:29
The 15 row is more than enough for a 200, the Skylines run hot hence my recommendation for the bigger unit.

does the filter head have sensor [temp/pressure] points, if it has could i pay the extra and change to one of these [i have payed for the other type already:) ] if its not a problem:)

bren
01-06-2007, 19:35
They have two gauge take off points :nod: You can change if youre order hasnt be dispatched, Ill check. No, sorry, an order was dispatched to you today :( It might just be the clutch, the coolers only came in late today, Ill see.

ex-ctr
01-06-2007, 19:40
They have two gauge take off points :nod: You can change if youre order hasnt be dispatched, Ill check. No, sorry, an order was dispatched to you today :( It might just be the clutch, the coolers only came in late today, Ill see.

its just the pretty colours that sold me on the new ones, im so shallow:D

Muttly
03-06-2007, 16:43
Bren, with this kit, are the 2 hoses to the oil cooler the same length? Can a 4th hose be gotten the same length as the straight ended hose.

Have you seen the Thermostatic Oil cooler Sandwich plate that driftw**** are doing, its like £37 or something about that, would this kit connect on to the top, I can't think of a reason not as its ment to take the standard oil filter on the top. Can you offer something like this with this kit and a 4th pipe?? That way it'd be a remote kit with thermostatic cooler.

bren
04-06-2007, 08:07
The kits come as they are, we cant add to them :no:

We have been doing thermostatic sandwich plates since Phils S14a was standard and a long long time before DW came on the scene ;)

You cant run a thermostatic sandwich plate at the block as it will divert the majority of the oil flow past the oil filter when the oils cool.

bren
04-06-2007, 08:13
Robs just pmd me with a cracking idea, Ill look into it today, it would allow a themostatic plate to be used with this kit if it works :)

Muttly
05-06-2007, 16:25
Any update Bren??

ndom
06-06-2007, 00:47
there is a couple of us interested in buying cooler kit with thermostat. please let us know when you have sorted out a kit Bren.

cheers.

leelee
06-06-2007, 14:18
are the filters the same as standard nissan ones? Just thinking for the future when it comes to oil changes

If they're not, would you stock them?

bren
06-06-2007, 14:57
Theyre Mistubishi filters, we can supply if needs be :)

I havent had time to move on the thermo kits yet :no:

ex-ctr
06-06-2007, 15:56
any news on which cooler im getting:)

bren
06-06-2007, 16:03
Its the bling type :)

Tricky-Ricky
13-06-2007, 00:36
What size are the fittings/hoses?

Matt_S
13-06-2007, 07:45
You cant run a thermostatic sandwich plate at the block as it will divert the majority of the oil flow past the oil filter when the oils cool.

Can you elaborate on that one for me please?

I dont get it. From what youre saying there, basically a thermo plate will divert oil from the filter when cold. Seeing as the oil reloc kits go in place of the std oil filter, just remote fitting it, I cant see any problem with this...

Muttly
26-06-2007, 15:49
Anymore on this. I'll be looking to be buying shortly and I'd like to get the whole lot in one go that'll do everything, relocate and cool thermostatically.

alexjj
27-06-2007, 11:59
Do they come with a fitting guide / what tools you need etc? How easy is it to fit temp and pressure guide from the Defi guage unit I got from you guys? Many thanks :)

bren
27-06-2007, 19:42
What size are the fittings/hoses?

I dont have those details to hand but theyre the same size bore (different thread) as our normal Apex kits and they havent been an issue on 200s, Skylines etc :)


Can you elaborate on that one for me please?

I dont get it. From what youre saying there, basically a thermo plate will divert oil from the filter when cold. Seeing as the oil reloc kits go in place of the std oil filter, just remote fitting it, I cant see any problem with this...

If you run the thermo plate to the block then oil will go out of the block, round the plate and back into the block missing out the filter. Unless you mount the thermo plate on the remote filter head which is something I will look into as soon as I get two mins to do so :)


Do they come with a fitting guide / what tools you need etc? How easy is it to fit temp and pressure guide from the Defi guage unit I got from you guys? Many thanks :)

They dont come with a fitting guide as theyre universal so fit a range of cars :) The Defi sendors should screw straight into the remote filter head.

alexjj
28-06-2007, 00:13
Woooo! with some ptfe tape perhaps? Will see how it goes.. :thumbs:

Matt_S
29-06-2007, 01:08
If you run the thermo plate to the block then oil will go out of the block, round the plate and back into the block missing out the filter. Unless you mount the thermo plate on the remote filter head which is something I will look into as soon as I get two mins to do so :)



Nah, that doesnt make sense. From what you say there, everyone running a thermo plate is running with unfiltered oil once up to temp...

Look at the two side by side installed on their own.
Std Thermo Oil cooler Install:
You mount the thermo (cooler) plate on the block and then the oil filter on the thermo plate. The oil flows thro the plate and thro the filter from cold. Once up to the thermo opening temp, oil is diverted thro the cooler, then back into the block (it goes thro the filter first from memory)

Std Reloc Install:
Reloc plate fitted to block. Oil comes out of block, up the hose, into the remote housing. Thor filter and then back down the hose to the block, via the reloc plate.

Now put the two together:
Thermo plate on block, reloc plate on thermo plate. From cold, the oil comes out of the block, straight thro the thermo plate and into the reloc plate. It then goes thro the filter etc etc and back into the thermo plate and then back into the block. Now when it coes up to temp, it still works the same, only instead of going straight back inot the block, its diverted thro the cooler, so it would work fine.

Unless youre sayign that the thermo plates dont let the oil be filtered before its cooled???

Im banging my head with this one as this is the way Id like it to be fitted on mine when I eventually get round to doing it! :wack:

Bren, can you find out what way they let the oil flow? Std oil flow is up the outside then back into the block thro the middle of the filter...

See this thread here: http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=284916&highlight=oil+flow

bren
29-06-2007, 09:02
Oil flows:

Through block adapter
To remote head
Through filter
To cooler
To block adapter

With thermo block adapter the cold oil would go:

Through block adapter, diverted by thermo, back into block.

http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=46915&stc=1&d=1183104131

Matt_S
29-06-2007, 14:14
No, I meant where does the oil flow with the mocal thermo plates? I know what you mean in the example given - its pretty straight forward! But Id like to run a thermo controlled cooler aswell (without the expense of the inline coolers)

bren
29-06-2007, 14:19
When the oils warm I believe it flows through the plate to the filter, out of the plate, to the cooler and back. When the oils cold it just flows to the filter and then back to the block.

I dont believe the flow is ever completely blocked to the cooler.

Matt_S
29-06-2007, 14:23
When the oils warm I believe it flows through the plate to the filter, out of the plate, to the cooler and back. When the oils cold it just flows to the filter and then back to the block.

I dont believe the flow is ever completely blocked to the cooler.

GREAT! In that case my theory of plumbing it all in would be OK :thumbs:

bren
29-06-2007, 14:45
How? You take the original block plate off and fit a thermo one. Oil flows into the plate and back into the block when cold therefore by passing the filter.

The thermo plate has hose take offs drilled into it as does the relocation one. Thats 4 holes and 2 hoses. It will p1ss oil everywhere :confused:

Just mount the relocation plate on the remote filter head, that will then divert oil back to the block when its cold but through the cooler when its warm.

I think.

bren
29-06-2007, 14:46
Ah, no, I get you, yeah it would work :)

I think. :wack:

Matt_S
29-06-2007, 14:50
How? You take the original block plate off and fit a thermo one. Oil flows into the plate and back into the block when cold therefore by passing the filter.

The thermo plate has hose take offs drilled into it as does the relocation one. Thats 4 holes and 2 hoses. It will p1ss oil everywhere :confused:

Just mount the relocation plate on the remote filter head, that will then divert oil back to the block when its cold but through the cooler when its warm.

I think.

I dont think youve understood me. Read it again.


Now put the two together:
Thermo plate on block, reloc plate on thermo plate. From cold, the oil comes out of the block, straight thro the thermo plate and into the reloc plate. It then goes thro the filter etc etc and back into the thermo plate and then back into the block. Now when it coes up to temp, it still works the same, only instead of going straight back inot the block, its diverted thro the cooler, so it would work fine.

You have just confirmed my thoughts that the thermo plates flow oil to the filter first, then thro thro the cooler hoses once opened. So whats the difference with mounting it all my way? It flows oil thor the filter you say, so in MY case it flows it to the reloc kit, then back towards the block. The thermop plate sees the oil returnign to it as if it came from the filter and diverts it to the cooler if up to temp...

The main difference to me is that fow example I could buy one of your cooler kits (with thermo plate that will bolt straight in) and use the reloc kit I already have here sitting waiting to go on once I buy hoses...

Matt_S
29-06-2007, 14:51
GIT! You posted that whilst I was writing my post! :wack: :D:D:D

So are we agreed then???

200krisx
29-06-2007, 15:48
Hi mate,

Can you sell the block attachment with thermostat, remote filterhead and oil filter seperate?

Cheers,

Kris :)

bren
29-06-2007, 16:47
I dont see why it wouldnt work :) Youd just need the thermo sandwich plate and one new hose making.

We buy the kits complete Im afraid.

Muttly
30-06-2007, 11:27
Right, to clarify on this if I buy this kit, plus the thermo block and an extra aeroquip hose (which being so nice you'll either get it for me or at least tell me the specs on it and where to get it) and hey presto I'll have a reloc kit with a thermo cooler?


If I get this right, when fitting I take off the standard filter, fit the thermo block which is piped to the cooler, then on top of the thermo block I fit the reloc adapter and pipe work which runs to the filter head. Have it right or backwards or what??

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ex-ctr
30-06-2007, 17:04
Right, to clarify on this if I buy this kit, plus the thermo block and an extra aeroquip hose (which being so nice you'll either get it for me or at least tell me the specs on it and where to get it) and hey presto I'll have a reloc kit with a thermo cooler?


If I get this right, when fitting I take off the standard filter, fit the thermo block which is piped to the cooler, then on top of the thermo block I fit the reloc adapter and pipe work which runs to the filter head. Have it right or backwards or what??

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the oilcooler thermo block needs to go under the filter to work

Muttly
30-06-2007, 17:17
the oilcooler thermo block needs to go under the filter to work
It flows oil thor the filter you say, so in MY case it flows it to the reloc kit, then back towards the block. The thermop plate sees the oil returnign to it as if it came from the filter and diverts it to the cooler if up to temp...Going by Matt says here, after a re-read it shouldn't matter if its mounted at the filter or the block it should give the same result, as the oil flow out through the outside of the thermo then into the reloc take off, through the pipes, into the outside of the filter, filter through and back towards the engine through the middle and then back into the reloc take off, then into the thermo where if its up to the temp it goes out through the cooler and back into the block.
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mathisson
02-07-2007, 21:34
i would like to know how long the hoses are on this kit and the shipping for sweden.
thanks

GreeceS13
11-10-2008, 21:42
Can you measure please either the inner holes from the oil cooler or the holes from the 4 alluminium fittings with silver colour that in foto are fitted to the plates please?

Always the inner diameter.

flovv
23-02-2009, 11:48
What size are the fittings/hoses?

I dont have those details to hand but theyre the same size bore (different thread) as our normal Apex kits and they havent been an issue on 200s, Skylines etc :)



Hi Bren,

I'm not sure what Tricky-Ricky wanted to know, but I need to know what size the fittings are, if they are -8AN or -10AN?? Are there different size on the kit 1 (http://www.apexperformance.co.uk/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=120_243_450_263_264_285&products_id=1287&PHPSESSID=bf8bcfb73f11cec56acb74841d546236) and kit 2 (http://www.apexperformance.co.uk/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=120_243_450_263_264_285&products_id=1288&PHPSESSID=bf8bcfb73f11cec56acb74841d546236) ? Need to know this as I want to add a inline thermostat which has -10AN fittings.

I want a kit for my r33, what does kit 1 / 2 cost with a 19 row cooler?

BR, Stefan