View Full Version : Apex 500bhp Skyline VS AP-Tunings 540bhp Evo
Gary and I did a track day down at Snetterton recently. What a larf, great fun, some good in car footage here :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmjUwOUwCFs
excellent footage:) skyline looks a bit tailhappy on corner exit, fairplay for holding some of those slides:clap:
like the real racers touch of cracked screen from hitting those kerbs hard:thumbs:
Well, more from *ahem* not doing the bonnet pins up but thanks for the benefit of the doubt :wack: :thumbs:
Its defo set up for drift! Lol :D
apt's evo looks crazy fast with zero lag!
looks awesome fun! didnt look like there was anythug else there that could keep up! :)
lol dont worry i wont tell anyone cos ive had a bootlid flyoff for the same reason:thumbs:
they look pretty evenly matched, albeit you seemed to have to work the wheel a bit more than the Evo driver so even more impressive:clap:
apt's evo looks crazy fast with zero lag!
looks awesome fun! didnt look like there was anythug else there that could keep up! :)
It is very responsive :nod: Our Skyline really responded well to running cams but we didnt fit them to the current engine and it really suffers with midrange grunt as a result. The new engine should be done soon so should gain a good 70bhp :cool:
lol dont worry i wont tell anyone cos ive had a bootlid flyoff for the same reason:thumbs:
they look pretty evenly matched, albeit you seemed to have to work the wheel a bit more than the Evo driver so even more impressive:clap:
I did have to work hard, Gary had some footage from inside his Evo and he doesnt have to do as much to keep the Evo on track :no: But then the Skyline was set up for drift so its to be expected. It was very sedate when it started to slide so easy enough to keep in a straight (ish) line.
Ive changed the springs since then so its now less inclined to slide but is a little snappier when it does start to go.
i think you are playing down youre driving skills mate, i doubt any slide at that speed and in a big heavy motor like teh skyline is 'sedate', snettertons hardly a nice slow circuit.
PPG box sounds lovely:smitten:
bet you cant wait for the S14 to get out on track
Still watching it, have you tried dipping the clutch a few times on corner exit to spool the clutch faster?
Nice vid, fix your windscreen :smash:
Nah, Im just waiting for ther next engine as itll have the Poncams back in it which will do the job for me :nod: Im not sure Id be too keen on dipping the clutch on corner exit, its sideways happy enough as it is without dipping the clutch to get the power in earlier. Left foot braking would be the answer if I could do it, which I cant. And Im too lazy to learn at the mo as, like I say, the next engine will sort the mid range anyhoos :)
Screen will be done this week :nod:
i think you are playing down youre driving skills mate, i doubt any slide at that speed and in a big heavy motor like teh skyline is 'sedate', snettertons hardly a nice slow circuit.
PPG box sounds lovely:smitten:
bet you cant wait for the S14 to get out on track
Thanks :) Youre right, Im gagging to tget the S14a done now, its going to be an absolute animal. Im expecting it to be chasing this thing down:
http://www.zenperformance.co.uk/p/team-zen-2007
Vid:
http://www.zenperformance.co.uk/videos/timeattack/
Fair play :clap: :clap: :clap: That was impressive to watch! Shocked you managed to keep that beast on the tarmac! Looks like you had loads of fun :D
What kinda times were you getting compared to gary's evo?
Papa Lazarou
21-05-2007, 20:01
Nice video :nod:
very neat driving and obviously a capable car but im not a fan of 4wd for serious track cars, it seems that a helluva lot of time and money has to be spent getting over the 4wd system disadvantages to allow a small grip advantage. Decent chassis setup and tyres and rwd is just as good and sometimes better. getting a chassis to work is about balance not ultimate grip imho.
im sure you'll 'ave im :sxoc:
Looks like a lot of fun :D Loving the PPG, sounds awesome but I don't blame you for bringing it to Japfest on a trailer :eek: :D
Mikesx13
21-05-2007, 20:38
Awesome vid there :nod: :thumbs:
looked great, must be hard not nailing it and geting sideways all the time, i no its not the fastest way round a track but with that much power it must be so temping every corner:D :thumbs:
OptiBull
21-05-2007, 21:45
Fair play nice driving! Can i have a go? ;)
wutang200
21-05-2007, 22:29
Is that Lamborghini's and Vipers you were overtaking in that vid :eek:
Nice driving :nod: Can't wait for your S14a project to finish :smitten:
Ari Vatanen
21-05-2007, 23:01
Nice vid :thumbs:
hope you did'nt have the little one in the back :wack:
http://www.zenperformance.co.uk/p/team-zen-2007
Looks like that thing's only using 7.5" wide wheels and what seems to be a relatively std rear brake setup and uprated front brakes. Very impressive if thats the case!
Cheers,
Dunc.
Nismo Pete
21-05-2007, 23:47
Nice vid Bren and the skyline sounds awsome as usuall:wave:
Great vid Bren, I'm gonna have to blag a passenger seat one day to see how yours compares to mine:D
You guys really did have fun, think i wanna have a go at Snetterton now.
Nice vid, although you really did get schooled by the APT Evo with less power. Wish i had large company funds to spend on a Skyline :(
Fair play That was impressive to watch! Shocked you managed to keep that beast on the tarmac! Looks like you had loads of fun
What kinda times were you getting compared to gary's evo?
I dont know, I havent checked.
very neat driving and obviously a capable car but im not a fan of 4wd for serious track cars, it seems that a helluva lot of time and money has to be spent getting over the 4wd system disadvantages to allow a small grip advantage. Decent chassis setup and tyres and rwd is just as good and sometimes better. getting a chassis to work is about balance not ultimate grip imho.
im sure you'll 'ave im
The Evo realy dig bite and drive HARD out of the tighter and medium corners but a large degree of that was pure responsiveness. Im confident that the S14a will give nothing away to the 4wd boys :no:
Looks like a lot of fun Loving the PPG, sounds awesome but I don't blame you for bringing it to Japfest on a trailer
I nicked a set of full on ear defenders from Gary to drive the car back from Norwich to home, its that noisy!
looked great, must be hard not nailing it and geting sideways all the time, i no its not the fastest way round a track but with that much power it must be so temping every corner
I was trying my best to keep up with Garys mental Evom, hanging the back out all the time would have resulted in him dissapearing big time :nod: Im up for a bit of sideways when Im not so intent on trying to keep up with something though :thumbs:
Fair play nice driving! Can i have a go?
No :p Although the passenger seat is always open, if anyone sees the car at track anywhere then just ask for a passenger ride if you want one, dont be shy :)
Is that Lamborghini's and Vipers you were overtaking in that vid :eek:
No, I wish!
Nice driving :nod: Can't wait for your S14a project to finish :smitten:
Me too.
Nice vid :thumbs:
hope you did'nt have the little one in the back
No, shes done two track days and a show so far but not in the car :no:
Looks like that thing's only using 7.5" wide wheels and what seems to be a relatively std rear brake setup and uprated front brakes. Very impressive if thats the case!
Cheers,
Dunc.
Oh yes :nod:
Nice vid Bren and the skyline sounds awsome as usuall
Thanks :)
Great vid Bren, I'm gonna have to blag a passenger seat one day to see how yours compares to mine:D
Ill get Kev to book me into the track day we sort for you if at all possible :nod:
Nice vid, although you really did get schooled by the APT Evo with less power. Wish i had large company funds to spend on a Skyline
Schooled by and Evo with less power? Garys car was a minimum of 50bhp up on the Skyline, if not more like 80. No ones stopping you starting your own business ;)
Thats awesome mate.
I can not wait til you send my kit out now. If my car is anything like that it will be great,
Love the sound of the straight cut box, it sounds just like my tractor. I've got 28 gears though :p
That gearbox sounds sexual - that looked like a load of fun!!
Is the car competing in EDC?
Nice! Thats big power for a Drift car! Will be good to watch :D
Its in the EDC :nod:
And awesome was how it looked and went at Donnington :nod: :D
Wish I'd have known you where taking passengers at Japfest, I'd have loved to have seen your lines in Session 3 to see what I could have learned after Session 2. (a large amount probably).
Lovely video bren I'd say the poor guy with the Golf must've shit himself.
jamesgtturbo
26-05-2007, 14:56
nice vid , sounds awesome
The1Nick
22-07-2007, 13:23
Great Vid - looks like fun
rick150sri
22-07-2007, 13:45
Excellent video. Superb driving skills, both you and the Evo driver.
Wish I had the time, money and skill to do track days :)
japdrifter
23-07-2007, 05:18
lol must have looked like star wars in the rear view mirror of that golf!!!
think bout it gary in the dark side of the force mitsi (tie fighter) and you in your x-wing coloured skyline lol...sad i know but an awesome vid nevertheless!!:thumbs: :wack:
I presume the Evo weighs quite a bit less than your 33, Bren?
Considering how the Evo was...going away out of the corners, I'm well impressed with your driving, keeping it so close. I'd have stacked it, hard. :D
Id have thought that the Skyline weighs slightly less than the Evo. The Skylines are around 1400kg as standard I believe and ours is stripped out.
Our Skylines just had a new engine fitted with a new turbo so is running a chunk more power than in the vid with much much better bottom end response :nod: Its also now got stiffer suspension so isnt so arse endy although I want to take it further with maybe 12 kg springs on the front and 8 on the rear rather than the current 8s all round.
New engine bay:
http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=47760&stc=1&d=1185807195
http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=47761&stc=1&d=1185807193
s14_dave
30-07-2007, 15:55
very nice bren!
Clean isnt it :) I spent a week (as in one full week) down at Garys helping him sort the car ready for the install.
s14_dave
30-07-2007, 16:42
my engine is cleaner, ner ner. how long till your 14a is ready?
How longs a piece of string :cry: Itas a long way off, turns out that we cant sort the crap primer job so the whole shells got to be sorted :mad:
danny-mac
30-07-2007, 16:46
Gawd, i bet that's been frustrating.
But at least you've the Skyline to play with in the mean time. What turbo does it have now?
Where's all the wires in the engine??
Looks good!!
Gawd, i bet that's been frustrating.
But at least you've the Skyline to play with in the mean time. What turbo does it have now?
Its a new GT35R with the TD06 turbine housing grafted on. Sadly the turbos faulty and is smoking so Im half way through taking it back off, including chopping out all of the lock wiring that we fitted. I spent ages drilling through bolt heads and Ill not be able to relockwire it without taking the entire manifold assembly off which isnt happening :annoyed:
Where's all the wires in the engine??
Looks good!!
Im glad you noticed that, I chopped all the spare loom out (air con etc) and rerouted through the wheel arch to get it out of sight. I then rerouted the headlight and sidelight wiring behind the headlight :thumbs: Garys idea, looks clean doesnt it :)
andyfield
30-07-2007, 22:43
Looks very tasty Bren, when's it going on track again ?
You ought to setup another warehouse next to Gary's!
The turbo was sent off last night, if we get it back before this weekend then it will be running at Santa Pod on Saturday :)
Then its booked in at Brands Hatch on the 14th of August :nod: Then Ive booked a trip to Nurburgring for car and trailer on the 28th of September. Im going to drag the Skyline out there on a trailer and see if I can put some respectable times in :cool:
If I could get my staff to come with me then Id move down to Garys :nod:
Im glad you noticed that, I chopped all the spare loom out (air con etc) and rerouted through the wheel arch to get it out of sight. I then rerouted the headlight and sidelight wiring behind the headlight :thumbs: Garys idea, looks clean doesnt it :)
Hope you positioned it so it cant get cut up by the tyre on full compression. I almost rubbed into mine at the corporate Elvington day but just got way with it. Both looms are now up the side of the strut tower rather then under it.
That and ive had to raise my front ride hight :ghey:
Its routed so its well away from the rim. After having the loom on the o/s smoking due to shorting due to being rubbed through by the tyre Im not going to have the same thing happen again :wack:
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