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Dan@DB-Power
14-01-2003, 16:18
Hi All

I am thinking of getting broadband. How do you lot rate it. I think I get a discount as I have a BT staff number, which will be a bonus.

I know it says 512kps but does it actually run anywhere near that.

Cheers
Dan,

Dave_S
14-01-2003, 16:22
DO NOT! I repeat DO NOT go with BTOpenworld.

check out www.adslguide.org for info

I recommend Nildram.net

Dave

Yak
14-01-2003, 16:23
I have it at work prity much my self on a BT Openwoe connection and it is good.. when it works. Dam problem is i can get it at home! DAGNAMIT :(

Makes such a diffrence IMHO.. I spend to much time at the office now :(

Ken
14-01-2003, 16:25
I've got bt broadband, well pleased with it, much quicker downloads and surfing

sroberts
14-01-2003, 16:33
Ok boys sit down, passed these on the keith so I might as well let you into a small secret.

http://portal.plus.net

I am with these guys they are great. It cost me £33 per month, for the first year. Then it drops to £22 per month. This is because you pay off the hardware route in the first year. Which also comes with a hardware firewall. You can install it yourself so thats all you pay £33 per month for the first year :) no £80 for the hardware + installation + your £27.50 per month rental.

Other benfits are that you get a static IP ;) it runs at 512kps up and down. But there is an option to increase that to 2mg down at not extra cost. Someone told me its to do with setting up the router properly.

Don't tell everyone ;)

Si :)

sroberts
14-01-2003, 16:40
That 'sit down' bit was mean't in a nice way :)

Si :)

Dave_S
14-01-2003, 16:42
Uh, 512k up???

How does that work then, aren't our phone lines only capable of 256?

Dave

AL
14-01-2003, 16:42
Si,

Sorry for being a bit fik, but are you saying you wouldn't need to buy anything else on top of what is provided to enable you to get broadband:confused:

If not, that's a big thumbs up:)

mum's the word;)

AL

Dan@DB-Power
14-01-2003, 16:43
Hi Si.

What does it mean by BT install, Is that just to plug the router and the line into your PC. I take it the broadband just plugs into your normal phoneline and BT or whoever just updates your connection to your house.

Does broadband require any digging of pavements?

Cheers
Dan,

sroberts
14-01-2003, 16:46
Dave I am not sure, as it's from memory. Have a look at the site. you can defo get 2048Kbps

It's a complex site, just speck up your package, and have a look

Si :)

Dave_S
14-01-2003, 16:47
No digging if you mean ADSL. Broadband just means highspeed connection basically. If you want cable and it's not available and enough people want it then its digging of roads time.

ADSL just uses the standard copper pair.

Dave

sroberts
14-01-2003, 16:48
Dan S13

No they mean, having a BT engeer round to install it I think.

Si :)

Yak
14-01-2003, 16:49
Originally posted by Dave_S
Uh, 512k up???

How does that work then, aren't our phone lines only capable of 256?

Dave

Dave, phone lines used xDSL are capable of between .250 and 2Mbit ishh

Al, The Plus net package spreds the sost of buting the modem/router over the first 12 months so much it easier fo pay for.

Dan, the newer self installs are were you plug a signel filter into your phone line your self instead of an enginire coming out ta fit a special socket that does the same thing. The enginer still has to make changes at the phone exchange though. Make life a lot easier (and cheaper)

Dan@DB-Power
14-01-2003, 16:50
For someone who works BT you think I should have better knowledge of their products.:D :D :D

Dan,

Jezz_S13
14-01-2003, 16:50
got NTL cable, or will have when they come and fit it.

600kbs download, not sure what up is, but it's £24.99 inc hardware.
or
1Mbs for £34.99

I wouldn't rely on their email though, messages go missing then arrive days, weeks later.

Can't comment on the QoS either but it's my only option here other than satellite.

Dave_S
14-01-2003, 16:51
Originally posted by Yak
Dave, phone lines used xDSL are capable of between .250 and 2Mbit ishh

Yeah but thats DOWNSTREAM. You can get 2mbit down but the max you'll get UPSTREAM is still 256k :(

Dave

Yak
14-01-2003, 16:53
YA didnt say that :p


What QoS?

Dave_S
14-01-2003, 16:57
Quality of Service (Which for BT is 0)



Uh, 512k up???

;) :p

Dave

sroberts
14-01-2003, 16:59
Only problem with NTL as loads of people at work have found, is that it is a node based system in that people share nodes. The more people that are online, the less bandwidth you get.

Si :)

sroberts
14-01-2003, 17:02
This stuff is starting to lose me as I am not really good with the hardware side of things. Anyway a lad in the office is on the NTL 1mg package. But some nights it gets slower than his old ISDN line :eek: :eek: :eek: apperently there are loads of people in his area with NTL.

Si :)

Yak
14-01-2003, 17:03
Originally posted by Dave_S
Quality of Service (Which for BT is 0)

Uh, 512k up???
;) :p

Dave

I though ya ment 512k and up in speed terms :p

Yak
14-01-2003, 17:08
Originally posted by sroberts
apperently there are loads of people in his area with NTL.

Si :)

Aye, some NTL notes can be highly populated if the houseing is very dence. i.e. loads of flats, back to back tresses.

I got to have a look at some of NTLs node maps as part of the project im working on and (presumably) the bandwidth is shared amoungst these houses.

Mark
14-01-2003, 17:50
I have Blueyonder 1 Meg, pretty good and fapping fast :D

SteveDunn
14-01-2003, 18:24
512k isnt the download speeds you get btw, typical downloads for me (Nildram ADSL) is 60kbps.

Dave_S
14-01-2003, 18:25
yep me too, 59.9k/s :D

Good old Nildram :D

Dave

Daniel san
14-01-2003, 19:23
I'm on Blueyonder 1meg too. Have had 210kbs for a few seconds at the start of a downlaod, but it drops off gradually and sits at around 120-130 from then on:D