rust proofing

[Fake Ben Taylor]

engine is coming out very soon and the engine bay needs a tart up/rust proof.

whats the best thing to do with redards to it looking semi nice but more imprtantly not rusting?

i thank you:)

[Colin Gibson]

.Oops

[Petrol]

Degrease and wash off
Flat down with 1000 wet
dry off
Remove rust with one of these thingamajigs

http://media.sxoc.com/contributors/petrol/S13_Waxoyl_pics/S14a%20Rebuild/92.jpg

Don't use a grinding disk, you will do more harm than good.
Wipe over entire area with pre clean
Brush or spray on 2 coats of epoxy mastic
http://www.rust.co.uk/epoxy-mastic.cfm

It's available in Aluminium, Black, Buff, Green, Red & Grey

Sit back and have a beer :D

[Fake Ben Taylor]

Degrease and wash off
Flat down with 1000 wet
dry off
Remove rust with one of these thingamajigs

http://media.sxoc.com/contributors/petrol/S13_Waxoyl_pics/S14a%20Rebuild/92.jpg

Don't use a grinding disk, you will do more harm than good.
Wipe over entire area with pre clean
Brush or spray on 2 coats of epoxy mastic
http://www.rust.co.uk/epoxy-mastic.cfm

It's available in Aluminium, Black, Buff, Green, Red & Grey

Sit back and have a beer :D


christ on a bike that stuff is expensive:(

cheers though:thumbs:

[Petrol]

christ on a bike that stuff is expensive:(

cheers though:thumbs:

When are you thinking of doing it?

[studioworks]

Whats you opinon on hamerite? Thats what i tend to use for jobs like that.

[Bolf]

This place is local to me and has some good products , its normally the expensive gear that works the best to be fair.

http://www.frost.co.uk/productList.asp?catID=28&frostCat=Rust

[Petrol]

Whats you opinon on hamerite? Thats what i tend to use for jobs like that.

How can I be diplomatic? no I can’t – If you are looking for a proper job - Hammerite is shite and so is Waxoyl :nod: Oh and Waxoyl is made by the same company that makes Hammerite. Good marketing - poor product :rolleyes:

[TheNickos]

petrol - can POR15 have filler/stopper applied over the top of it out of interest ?

if so, what sort of prep is needed ??

[Petrol]

petrol - can POR15 have filler/stopper applied over the top of it out of interest ?

if so, what sort of prep is needed ??

Some FAQ's on POR15, note it says filler can be applied when "dry to the touch"




MANY PRODUCTS CLAIM TO STOP RUST; SOME ARE PAINTS, SOME ARE CONVERSION PRODUCTS, SOME ARE RUST TREATMENTS. NONE SEEM TO REALLY STOP RUST PERMANENTLY. WHY IS POR-15 DIFFERENT, AND WHY SHOULD I BELIEVE IT WILL WORK ANY BETTER?
Rust is caused by moisture coming in contact with metal, which causes a chemical action called oxidation. All paints provide a measure of protection for a while, but since they are eventually softened and weakened by moisture, it is only a matter of time before moisture penetrates the painted surface and attacks the metal below. All of the so-called rust preventive paints on the market (except POR-15) are weakened by exposure to moisture. POR-15 is strengthened by exposure to moisture. Notice the hardness of the POR-15 coating. It doesn't chip, crack, or peel like ordinary paints do, and its hardness will resist the wear and tear of every day life.

Rust conversion products claim to change the chemical nature of rust and convert it to a more stable element that won't rust again. History of the failure of these products is well documented; most simply don't work for more than a few months at best, and they are subject to the same chipping and cracking that occurs with ordinary rust coatings.

POR-15 works because it chemically bonds to rusted metal and forms a rock- hard, non-porous coating that won't crack, chip, or peel. It keeps moisture away from metal with a coating that is strengthened by continued exposure to moisture.


IS IT BETTER TO BRUSH OR SPRAY POR-15?
Most people brush it on, but many spray also. Proper equipment and organic vapor particulate respirators for solvents are essential for spraying.


HOW DO I THIN POR-15 IF I WANT TO SPRAY IT?
You should use only POR-15 Solvent for thinning. Keep lacquer thinner handy for clean-up. Do not thin POR-15 more than 5%.


CAN I PAINT OVER POR-15 WITH OTHER PAINTS?
Absolutely. POR-15 will accept all paints, including lacquer-based paints. POR-15 Tie-Coat Primer is the best prime coat to use before topcoating POR-15. Be sure to read thoroughly our directions and tip sheets regarding topcoating before using POR-15.


CAN I USE BODY FILLER OR PUTTY WITH POR-15?
Yes. First paint both sides of the rusted area with POR-15; then use body filler or putty as soon as the POR-15 is dry to the touch.


HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE POR-15 TO DRY?
That depends on the ambient humidity (surrounding area). The more humid the area, the faster the dry time, which usually varies from 3 to 6 hours.


IS IT DANGEROUS TO GET POR-15 ON MY HANDS?
No, but if you do, remove it at once with solvent or lacquer thinner. If POR-15 dries on your skin, nothing will take it off, and you will 'wear' it for 3 or 4 days until natural oils and flaking skin remove it.


ARE THE POR-15 VAPORS DANGEROUS TO MY HEALTH?
Yes. That's why you must always paint in a well-ventilated area and keep your nose away from the paint container. POR-15 is not dangerous if you follow our simple directions.


WHAT IS THE BEST SURFACE ON WHICH TO PAINT POR-15?
POR-15 likes rusted surfaces best. Seasoned metal and sandblasted metal are also good. POR-15 does not adhere well to smooth, shiny surfaces, but will adhere well to those surfaces with the proper preparation.


WHAT IS THE 'PROPER PREPARATION'?
We make a product called 'Metal-Ready'. It's a rust remover that leaves a zinc phosphate coating on base metal, the perfect preprimer for POR-15. NOTE: New steel is coated with a protective oil finish at the mill. This finish must be removed before using POR-15 or Metal-Ready. Clean metal first with POR-15 Marine-Clean, then rinse with water and dry.


WHICH POR-15 (BLACK, SILVER, GRAY, CLEAR) SHOULD I USE?
Silver contains metal filler and should be used in badly rusted, pitted areas. It will fill in holes better than black or clear. Black is generally used on frames, underside of fenders, etc. because that's the usual color there. Clear renders the smoothest finish and is often used as a preprimer on exterior surfaces; Gray is great on concrete floors, bilges, storage areas, as well as steel.


MUST I PAINT OVER POR-15 TO MAKE IT LAST?
No, but POR-15 has an ultra-violet sensitivity and must be topcoated if continually exposed to sunlight. Once topcoated, POR-15 will remain effective for many years.


WILL THE SUN DESTROY MY POR-15 COATING IF I DON'T TOPCOAT IT?
If the surface is exposed to the sun for an extended amount of time, the UV rays will eventually break down the POR-15 and cause it to fail. That’s why we recommend you topcoat it.


CAN I APPLY POR-15 OVER OTHER PAINTS?
Yes, but you will lose the important benefits of POR-15. You must remember that ordinary paints are weakened by exposure to moisture. POR-15 can't stop rust if it isn't in direct contact with the base metal.


CAN POR-15 BE USED WITH FIBERGLASS?
Absolutely. POR-15 is fully compatible with fiberglass and can be used to repair cracks in gelcoat. It will adhere better than polyester resin and has greater strength. Use also with fiberglass cloth to make super-strong surfaces in rusted-out areas. But be aware that POR-15 doesn't contain styrene and thus cannot melt fiberglass cloth like polyester resin does.

[TheNickos]

sweet, i know what i am doing next weekend now :(

i fcukin hate rust.

[Petrol]

sweet, i know what i am doing next weekend now :(

i fcukin hate rust.

Get some pics up :)

[Fake Ben Taylor]

When are you thinking of doing it?

it will be in the next couple of weeks:)

[Petrol]

it will be in the next couple of weeks:)

I might have some spare but won’t know for at least a month.

[IKRAM]

What knd of finish is por15, is it like a normal stonechip bumpy type finish?
or is it smooth like normal spray paint?

[TheNickos]

looks quite shiny the black one, got it on my inner arch ;)

[Si]

It dries smooth :nod: