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got started on the rebuild at last, just putting up some pics,
Looking good. Need more pics though. And some specs.
Irishpaddy
05-01-2007, 17:21
cool.. rb'ed s13:thumbs: :cool:
R360-200SX
05-01-2007, 17:23
Good luck with it mate, I know how much hard work and hard earned cash is involved. lol Fair play.
just some more pics, i was thinking the clutch was going to be hardship, can't get to the bolts on top of the gearbox the engine is a tight fit it the s13 had to move the engine out the way, but it all worked ok:D
the rest from the clutch and the cam's out, tomei 256 one's going in
it all started well today, big turbo, big intake, cam's were in last night, all was looking good
it all went a bit wrong then, or more intresting anyway, the intake don't pass the clutch master cylinder so it had to be moved, the turbo exhaust comes out right at the abs servo,
it all went a bit wrong then, or more intresting anyway, the intake don't pass the clutch master cylinder so it had to be moved, the turbo exhaust comes out right at the abs servo,I am possibly completely wrong but could you sping the turbo 180 deg? ie intake at the back. It'd be easier make an intake a bit smaller than an exhaust. The inlet to intercooler pipe may fit between the manifold and block. Then have the exhaust come forward and then down around underneath. Either that or remove the ABS and try and relocate.
EDIT: I should point out I'm no too good on turbos and the way they've to be fitted etc...
the turbo exhaust comes out right at the abs servo,
Lol! :D Someone asked me only today why I wouldn't go top-mount on my turbo: you've just given a perfect example of why! :wack::smash: Would hate to go through the hassle of moving everything around... :annoyed:
JP
took the abs off don't no if i need it it didn't work anyway, bent the clutch master cylinder out the way, starting to get there, also had to move the fuse box out the way of the throttle, i'm still waiting on the bigger one coming, but that is not a big problem,
hell of a job your taking on there pal, you doing it all yourself?
i take it you've checked out this thread:
http://www.sxoc.co.uk/vbb/showthread.php?t=110234
hell of a job your taking on there pal, you doing it all yourself?
i take it you've checked out this thread:
http://www.sxoc.co.uk/vbb/showthread.php?t=110234
that thread is my car before i got it, the engine was in the car, just didn't have the power it should:( so i'm making some changes:D , the plan is to get all this work out the way, so i can do the internals end of this year then jack the power up:D , lot of head scratching still to go:confused: , it will be worth it i think, and yip i'm at it myself, some think to be doing:thumbs:
started on some more bits that are going on, oil cooler and oil catch tank, oil filter relocation up on wing some where,
had i bit of time still waiting for some parts getting here so i started cleaning up the rocker covers, they have a long way to go but starting to look better, made a start to the ecu having a ca18det and a rb25det loom in the car ands a bit of fun when putting another one in:D
got some more bits in and fitted up the heat sheld, have most bit now but the rest would want to get here soon:mad: or i'm :censored: for the r/r, the thorttle body got here today look as if it might do bit bigger than the rb25 one,
I'm just glad Martin's rolling-road can handle up to 1000bhp! :wack: - Just in case, I think we'll put you on last! :p :D
JP
well if it make's 1000bhp you'll get a look at the con rods, because they will come out the side of the block:wack: :cry: , hope it lasts to the end of the year till i get the stocker kit for it:D
Fitz1979
17-01-2007, 15:38
Looks good. You take the month off. Or you just doing it erevy spare minute you can get?
Looks good. You take the month off. Or you just doing it erevy spare minute you can get?
took the first week off and all the spare time i got after that, the biggest problem is still the parts i'm waiting on:(
starting to look more like it's getting done, made new brake lines to bypass the abs, got the pulleys to fit, some work to make them fit you can't buy them off the shelf, put some pic's up the cam is 35mm and the pulley 40mm so it would not center, made a spacer from 2.5mm flat plat and an old bolt and copper hammer, welded it up ground it off so it was nice and smooth and lock tight it in place, put a stud it the hole on the cam to hold it and drilled the tomei pulley to suit, got a new bolt that didn't have an oil feed in the center made a spacer to center that too, and thats one more thing out the way:D :thumbs:
some pics of the new brake lines, and the down pipe thats starting to take shape thanks to jp there's one down here too and he is one hell of a welder:notworthy :notworthy , its all been tig welded and look's the s**t, one less thing for me to do jp has it all under control:thumbs: , the t-belt is now on and the clear cover(i know it says RB26 they don't make them withRB25 so it will do) but it is starting to look almost done:nod:
just need my fuel rail to get here:annoyed:
it's been a long time since i put anything out this thread, been catching up on all the stuff that got put off before the feb meet, but we got back at the s13 today, was going to make a cold air intake box but when we started stripping it we seen some wire was starting to melt:cry: (this car has gone on fire with a burst turbo oil feed hose so melting is not good) with the heat from the turbo. as the loom was still ca18det with the rb25det and all the abs loom and a lot of it is not needed i cut most of it out and cleaned it all up took out the nissan ecu and the greddy piggy back(as its no good for what i'm looking for) so its all ready for the aem ems to go in tomorrow.
That's gonna be fun to map..! :D Where'd you get the new loom from?
That's gonna be fun to map..! :D Where'd you get the new loom from?
its the same loom, just cut off all the bit's it don't need(i hope thats all i cut off:D )
tomei stroker kit has landed, pic's coming soon,
rb28det s13:nod: coming to a r/r soon:thumbs:
tomei stroker kit has landed, pic's coming soon,
rb28det s13:nod: coming to a r/r soon:thumbs:
Yikes, what turbo?
calicagesracing
21-08-2007, 09:58
yipee, cant wait to see this running again:cool:
get busy:whip:
good job Stiv...get the pics up :sxoc:
cant wait til i see it at the shows, or the rr print out's for that!
Whatever happened to the see-through pulley-cover by the way? That would be cool to have so that you could see the Tomei ones on the engine! :nod:
Yikes, what turbo?
think it going to be hks t04z,
Whatever happened to the see-through pulley-cover by the way? That would be cool to have so that you could see the Tomei ones on the engine! :nod:
put the nvcs pully back on to spool the turbo up faster but with the new turbo and 2.8l it should be no problem to put it all back on
some bit's that went it before the pistons cracked, i never got round to putting them up, new nismo twin plate, air temp sensor to work with the aem map sensor for the aem ems,
put the 2way kaaz in just before the rally of the lakes, its fun
tomei 2.8 strocker kit, tomei 1.2mm head gasket, tomei H beam rods, forged pistons and Titanium Top Rings the gold looking ones,
new tomei timing belt, some more pics of the 86.5mm pistons,
got the engine stripped down today and put the new crank it to make sure it fits right and its spot on:D , so just got to get 0.5mm overbore and we are all good to go:thumbs:
lol i cant wait :clap: :clap:
tomei 2.8 strocker kit, tomei 1.2mm head gasket, tomei H beam rods, forged pistons and Titanium Top Rings the gold looking ones,
new tomei timing belt, some more pics of the 86.5mm pistons,
got the engine stripped down today and put the new crank it to make sure it fits right and its spot on:D , so just got to get 0.5mm overbore and we are all good to go:thumbs:
You are a baaaaaaaad bad man! :D :notworthy :notworthy :notworthy
Sideways Danny
27-08-2007, 23:53
oh my word, I think I've spuffed
s14driftqueen
03-09-2007, 22:59
seen tis car as is being built when getting few bits done on my car all im gonna say is its mental and will be a seruios rd car when completed
hurry up stiv :) :thumbs:
hurry up stiv :) :thumbs:
good things come to those who wait:thumbs:
the bearings and the turbo are still in jap land, ment to be sent today from nengun,
the block and head are in westward precision engineering martin is doing the machine work on it:Plug: ,
it's all under control:wack:
So that's where it went :wack:
Ireland!?
Looking great bud :D
Keep up the good work :thumbs:
So that's where it went :wack:
Ireland!?
thats the 1, your old car is getting fixed up a bit:thumbs:
thats the 1, your old car is getting fixed up a bit:thumbs:
yeah it looks good :thumbs:
hope it goes well, if you have any questions on it feel free to ask, was a while ago i did that tho :wack:
the parts are back from the machine shop, all is looking well thanks to martin in westward precision engineering :Plug: ,
some more pats that got here, oil stat and fuel swirl pot to keep fuel in to the new 105gph pump, still waiting on the turbo and the bearings should be here next week
*Insert child-like giddiness movements here* :D
Did you get the head ported/polished? Any pics of the sides of the head?
s14driftqueen
30-09-2007, 05:35
looking well dude cant wait for a spin sometime maybe
Just noticed the '28' part of this thread title .......:eek: :eek:
Bored out to 2.8 litre I presume? Wo.....:p
Kopijack
01-10-2007, 16:29
Fun times ahead!!!!
That is some good quality machining:D hope mines looks like that soon lol
Just noticed the '28' part of this thread title .......:eek: :eek:
Bored out to 2.8 litre I presume? Wo.....:p
0.5mm over bore the rest is on the stroke
0.5mm over bore the rest is on the stroke
He said "stroke"! :wack:
Muttly - where are you when I need you?? :D
He said "stroke"! :wack:
strokers ? :ghey:
can't take you pair anywhere:rolleyes:
:wack:
Hope you're taking pics of the block mid-build too Mr. Stiv! :nod:
time to clean the block up a bit,
http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=49771&d=1192388513
first a lot of wire brush
http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=49772&d=1192388568
then masked up ready for paint,
http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=49773&d=1192388622
some vht paint and it should be looking the job:thumbs:
http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=49774&d=1192388661
looking a bit mat with the blue on
http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=49775&d=1192390077
but after the clear coat went on it was looking the job
http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=49776&d=1192390140
the finished job
http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=49779&d=1192390546
the new wheels got here245x35x19 front:D
http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=49780&d=1192391722
a bit bigger on the back275x30x19, to keep the back at the back:wack: this is them lined up with the 225x40x18's that were on it, now on my red s13
http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=49781&d=1192392402
the wheels look sooooo mean!
some pics of the new turbo, some lads seen it at the last meet:thumbs:
http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=49785&d=1192395968
and next to the stanard rb25 turbo(about the same size as the sr20 turbo)
http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=49786&d=1192396028
http://www.sxoc.co.uk/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=49785&stc=1&d=1192396074
I've edited your posts for you to include the pics cause the links weren't working. :thumbs:
This is looking to be one absolutely amazing car by the end of it! :sxoc:
:notworthy @ "HKS" as replacement for "Nissan"! :notworthy
calicagesracing
16-10-2007, 18:01
holy crap man, thats some beast of a turbo:D :D
Irishpaddy
16-10-2007, 19:36
that picture doesnt show the size of that turbo... it was much bigger than that when i seen it at the karting..:wack:
that picture doesnt show the size of that turbo... it was much bigger than that when i ween it at the karting..:wack:
your right, the picture dose nothing for it,
got all the pistons and rods put together last night and all the rings gapped, so today the nismo big ends and mains could be put in and the bottom end built
all the main bearings in no problems there:wack:
the oil squirters had to have spacers put in to let them clear the pistons:wack: with the longer stroke,
used air to blow them out and make sure all the bango bolts where opening to let the oil squirt when the pressure go's up, then got them all put in, now where did i put that crank:wack:
bottom end built, all the pistons, rings, rods, bearings and the crank good to go,
:sxoc:
I love this thread!!! :D :notworthy
fair play stiv ... good work there ... is this just putting togheter phase or you waiting for more parts?
What trim is that turbo stiv, 0.61, 0.81 or 1.0A/R??
japdrifter
24-10-2007, 18:58
beautiful mate.thats gonna be some machine when your done mate!!! your an inspiration to s13 owners everywhere!!!lol
What trim is that turbo stiv, 0.61, 0.81 or 1.0A/R??
it's 0.81 that should spool and give good power(i hope:wack: )
bank holiday weekend, a good time to get the car in and get some more work done time is ticking:eek: http://www.sxoc.co.uk/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=50022&stc=1&d=1193530482
started with stripping it
http://www.sxoc.co.uk/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=50023&stc=1&d=1193530482
and then got the mig out:D
http://www.sxoc.co.uk/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=50024&stc=1&d=1193530482
this thread is f***ing awesome:nod: what plans for the body? any ideas yet?
wjpc_skyline
28-10-2007, 12:44
i have a r33 gtst i so want that engine
just an update on the car and some pis of the welding that is done, and the de-rusting of the front end,
dan200s14
07-11-2007, 19:06
nice job
all painted up and looking good, that should keep the rust at bay for a bit, got the bigger fmic on before the car go's to pro body worx:Plug: for the body kit and wide arch's:D
http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=50243&d=1194494375
4" deep?? Yes please! :D
McRearout
08-11-2007, 12:59
my
god
:D
This thread is amazing!!! keep it up I want to see more:nod:
Lets see a bit of support lads for Stiv's named charity. Click on the link at the bottom of my signature and read the first post of that thread:nod: :thumbs:
5 studs also went on the car before it went to the body shop(i will do a write up in the s13 section on how we did it, some easyer ways than what i've see posted up before)just don't have time from now till r/r day on the 8th dec, forgot to get a pic of the wheels sticking out the side of the car, it won't be long till its back so i'll get some pics of the wheels in side the wide arch's:thumbs:
more stiv we want more ...any pics of the new body ,, heard from jp u got wide body :thumbs: :sxoc:
Dave270R
18-11-2007, 21:35
Awesome project mate, can't wait to see what she's capable of! :notworthy
Wish i had a garage lol. Very nice stiv. I love it.
My Stage 2 CA18DET is going to be going WAY faster......... with this......
http://blog.scifi.com/tech/pics/jetcar_w.jpg
Awesome project mate, can't wait to see what she's capable of! :notworthy
Click on the link in my sig, take a guess what she's capable of & you may even win a prize!! :Plug: :D
if only i had come up with that idea:eek: look's like a lot of fun
Wish i had a garage lol. Very nice stiv. I love it.
My Stage 2 CA18DET is going to be going WAY faster......... with this......
http://blog.scifi.com/tech/pics/jetcar_w.jpg
not had a lot of time to get pic up, been flat out working on the car, the sump got a lick of paint keep the rust bug off it, a lot of the rest of the time was spent on the head
calicagesracing
21-11-2007, 00:05
looking savage mate. all 24 valves fitted and lapped in yet.:cool:
leaves some blisters on the palms:wack:
on the exhaust side the lump's that direct the gas have been removed to make way for more gas to get out too spool the big ass turbo:D
a good clean and the long job of putting 24valve spings back in and the head is good to go:thumbs:
looking savage mate. all 24 valves fitted and lapped in yet.:cool:
leaves some blisters on the palms:wack:
i think u might have done this before, 3 hours to put the springs back in grease on the end of a screw driver:annoyed: , there has to be an easyer way(you can post here) but there are all in now:D
on with the tomei multi layer head gasket, the ARP studs and the head, starting to look like an engine again:nod:
the inlet cam pulley needed some modifing to make it fit, no one makes them to fit the rb25, the intake and exhaust cams are differant size's where the nvcs pulley was, so we had a alloy spacer made and drilled the tomei pulley to fit,
tomei pulley's on and the rocker covers polished, just need to find some more time to post up some more pics, car is running now and has 900miles done, so time to get it set up before the r/r day at the weekend:D
What are you doing about the oil way that went into the stock cam pulley (inlet)
I have a greddy one ready to go on (bought a pair), but I only fit the exhaust side as didnt know what the deal was with oil in/to the pulley.
What are you doing about the oil way that went into the stock cam pulley (inlet)
I have a greddy one ready to go on (bought a pair), but I only fit the exhaust side as didnt know what the deal was with oil in/to the pulley.
tapped it and put a m6 bolt it with the head cut off and a notch cut in so i could use a screw driver with some lock tight,
thats something a may do before puting mine back together this time.
I was thinking of knocking a ball bearing down the cam, but that looks better.
Not sure about losing the way the cam comes on at 4.5krpm?
japdrifter
05-12-2007, 17:27
?!?!?!?!?!?!the Cars Running And No Pics Vids Etc....im Dying To See Wat This Car Sounds And Looks Like!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Pics you say?? :D
HKS T04Z versus XS Power Exhaust housing:
http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=50818&stc=1&d=1196879668
HKS T04Z versus XS Power Compressor housing :eek:
http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=50819&stc=1&d=1196879668
The flange welded to the exhaust clamp (you need that with turbos this mental! :wack:) of what was eventually a custom downpipe:
http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=50821&stc=1&d=1196879668
Tubby bolted to the engine:
http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=50822&stc=1&d=1196879668
Scott holding the entire engine up on his own - making a habit of this!
http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=50823&stc=1&d=1196879668
i'll take some more pic's of the car in the day light, going out to do some mapping now, have a video of the first time it started but the sound didn't work, it's 15mb so i'll have to find a site to put it on and then a link to it:thumbs:
Here it is, wedged into the engine-bay:
http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=50825&stc=1&d=1196880024
This is at about 6am when we finally got it running:
http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=50826&stc=1&d=1196880024
And at about 11am when we got it out of the shed with the front bumper on moving on its own power! :sxoc:
http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=50828&stc=1&d=1196880024
By the way, from having been in it, it's an amazing machine! Hats off to Stiv! :notworthy:notworthy:notworthy
you can see it here, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_o_dLhd9GI
but no sound:(
i'll get some more up
Congratulations :sxoc::notworthy
You should see the shere jealousy on my face right now lol, well nice buddy, Great work :thumbs:
McRearout
06-12-2007, 11:26
That's not a turbo, its the worlds most powerful industrial hoover :eek:
:D
I cannot wait to see and hear this on the Dyno on Saturday.
I hope someone is bringing a decent video camera?
Scott holding the entire engine up on his own - making a habit of this!
Any time I see Scott, he usually has trouble holding himself up.
:D
c'mon lads, guess the bhp figure for charity, the RR day is this saturday and be in with a chance of winning a new blitz duel boost controller!
http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=318063
japdrifter
06-12-2007, 15:07
i really wanna see a vid of theis thing moving....can i ask? do you like the veilside type kit??
Quarantine
06-12-2007, 15:43
thats looks super. great work
****ing holy mother of god, did you want an engine with that turbo lol
gangsta_goose
10-12-2007, 18:40
Get some vids up! :D
Interesting to see what BHP the car produces when the coil pack problem is sorted :thumbs:
what did it produce before the coil pack problem then?
what did it produce before the coil pack problem then?
IIRC it was about 250bhp at 4,000rpm
Coilpack problem was not allowing the car to rev past 4000rpm
:thumbs:
236bhp & 253lbs/ft (http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/showpost.php?p=3684520&postcount=120) at our rolling-road day last Saturday.
been looking in to a lot of things from last week,had the intercooler off and the old one on, then a bit of 3" pipe to make sure there was no restriction.
just been out with the lap top playing with settings, it was dark out side and we could see the spark jumping out the side of the coil packs to the head:( so we do need to do something with the spark(drift works wasted spark i think) also the exhaust manifold was glowing after just 10min's at idel so there is something wrong with the timing:nod: so we'll fix the spark then look back at the timing:thumbs:
been looking in to a lot of things from last week,had the intercooler off and the old one on, then a bit of 3" pipe to make sure there was no restriction.
just been out with the lap top playing with settings, it was dark out side and we could see the spark jumping out the side of the coil packs to the head:( so we do need to do something with the spark(drift works wasted spark i think) also the exhaust manifold was glowing after just 10min's at idel so there is something wrong with the timing:nod: so we'll fix the spark then look back at the timing:thumbs:
Oh man! :( Hope this just sounds a lot worse than it is - ahh well, when it's running right & you hit 6k rpm (nevermind 8k!) it'll alllllll be worth it! :D :thumbs:
japdrifter
14-12-2007, 18:19
sounds like big timing problems there mate...no wonder the power figure was so low!!!
once its sorted tho your in for a big suprise lol
davekeogh
08-01-2008, 11:45
Got those coil packs fixed yet??
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
What he said!
Did the wasted spark sort it?
great project!!! loving it hope you get the problem sorted, what spark plugs you got? just thinking it may have an affect of running if the space is too long.:nod:
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
What he said!
Did the wasted spark sort it?
thanks to daveV for the driftworks wasted spark, it works a lot better than the coil packs, going to change a track rod end tonight then we'll get it back out but it should be running before the track day at the weekend:thumbs:
Green Meany
23-01-2008, 20:00
Assume job there... how are teething problems... is she running sweet now !?
pleoid_ort
29-01-2008, 00:34
mental project!!! good work on REDS rb25 conversion... he's 1 happy camper!!
how are teething problems
had it out the night before the track day mapping it, but the spark plugs(denso iridium ik20) that went in to it on the rush before the r/r day that i was told by the motor factor were heat rating 9:censored::censored: melted and damaged 2 pistons and the bore:wack:
should have looked it up on line before i used them, they did tell me the ngk plugs i asked for didn't exist(it was running ok for 8k on them if you ask me),
but on the up side it was running better just before the tip's fell off the plugs and i have a new block thanks to fast cav that only had a blown head gasket, it is now stripped and waiting on pistons think i'll go for hks pistons this time:D
think i'll go for hks pistons this time:DWhat had you last time?
wow very interesting read!!!! amazing work there dude keep it up!!
What had you last time?
Tomei.
UPDATE!!! We demand an UPDATE!!! :whip: :p :D
:sxoc:
UPDATE!!! We demand an UPDATE!!! :whip: :p :D
:sxoc:
ok:wack:, new cp pistons in the machine shop with the new block should have them back start of next week, new head gasket on the way from japland with 12 hks spark plugs,
come on rhd i ordered them 3 weeks ago:annoyed:
12 plugs :eek: how come, spares im assuming
12 plugs :eek: how come, spares im assuming
don't want to be stuck for them again, so 6 spares:thumbs:
cant you just get them locally or are they specials
Not that easy to get Grade 7/IK24 plugs off the shelf as you think overhere :no: plus they are cheaper from Japland:nod:
Jezz_S13
11-04-2008, 18:04
I'd go with the NGK's personally, but IK24 if you must...
http://www.sparkplugs.co.uk/pages/database/results.asp
The question is, will it be ready for May 3rd? If not, will an extra pair of hands help to make it so? :) I'm sure I can organise a few more if needs be too! ;)
The question is, will it be ready for May 3rd? If not, will an extra pair of hands help to make it so? :) I'm sure I can organise a few more if needs be too! ;)
if you have an extra pair of hands to fly to japan and get my fecking head gasket from rhd:annoyed:, that would be spot on:thumbs:
don't think the parts will be here in time but if they are not here for the 3rd of may i'll get 1 from the uk, it will be ready for june:D
how did you fit this? was it using a mount kit from the states or the skyline crossmember?
how did you fit this? was it using a mount kit from the states or the skyline crossmember?
skyline crossmember with s13 power stearing rack
cool im thinking about doing it the same way... what mount kit did you use with the crossmember?
it bolts strait up to the skyline x member mate.using the standard mounts
it bolts strait up to the skyline x member mate.using the standard mounts
^:nod:
parts have landed:D, rebuild should start this weekend:thumbs:
parts have landed:D, rebuild should start this weekend:thumbs:
It better be built & running for when we're on the way back from Killarney if you're missing this weekend! :whip: :p
Best of luck buddy!! :sxoc:
gangsta_goose
05-05-2008, 21:46
Stiv,
Are the Tomei Pistons no good? :confused:
You said your changing to HKS, then mention CP... :confused:
Stiv,
Are the Tomei Pistons no good? :confused:
You said your changing to HKS, then mention CP... :confused:
been working on it all weekend the whole engine is ready to go in:D bar the sump being modified to hold more oil,
put cp pistons in after, 2 of the tomei pistons got damaged when the spark plugs melted:cry:, it was cheaper to get 6 cp pistons than 2 tomei pistons, and they are in a load of big power cars:thumbs:
Not that easy to get Grade 7/IK24 plugs off the shelf as you think overhere :no: plus they are cheaper from Japland:nod:
i use http://www.spark-plugs.co.uk/ Got mine the next day :thumbs:
gangsta_goose
05-05-2008, 23:18
Ahh ok, just wanted to check no probs with Tomei ones! ;)
For plugs clicky my sig ;)
p.s. email them n its cheaper lol
Ahh ok, just wanted to check no probs with Tomei ones! ;)
For plugs clicky my sig ;)
p.s. email them n its cheaper lol
got 12 over from jap land with the head gasket, hks super fire racing 50003-m45i heat range of 9 that should do me for a bit anyway:thumbs:
gangsta_goose
05-05-2008, 23:29
Cool, really want to see this beast up and running!
Any plans on unleashing it over here? Id defo be up for taking a look ;)
drag racing over here on the 8th of june, would love to go to red line ten of the best, a trip to santa pod could be on the cards,
got bull dog bash for some drag racing 2nd weekend in august with the busa, you could say i like fast stuff:D
gangsta_goose
06-05-2008, 17:32
where are you drag racing?
santa pods not too far from me...
the more south the better really! lol
Silvia Surfer
06-05-2008, 20:19
Just checked out this thread, sounds like this is gonna be interesting!:eek:
What power are you realistically expecting with this when all is running sweet?
Just checked out this thread, sounds like this is gonna be interesting!:eek:
What power are you realistically expecting with this when all is running sweet?
hard to say don't no any other skylines running with the same mods it should be over 600bhp and i don't think it will make 800 with out much bigger cams(i'm still looking in to what cams i want), but it's a light car so should be fun:D
Silvia Surfer
07-05-2008, 06:34
hard to say don't no any other skylines running with the same mods it should be over 600bhp and i don't think it will make 800 with out much bigger cams(i'm still looking in to what cams i want), but it's a light car so should be fun:D
Sounds good, should be a lot more reliable than trying to get 600 out of a CA18DET, will sound nicer too:thumbs:
been a mad weekend, but the engine is in and running started in to it sat morning with the manifolds needing put on and had it running by 6 tonight:D just a bit of fine tunning and 1000mile run in and drag racing on the 8th june should be good:nod:
big thanks to all the lads that called down over the weekend to lend a hand:clap::clap:
think at 1 stage we had 7 sxoc members in the yard:sxoc:
calicagesracing
19-05-2008, 10:11
been a mad weekend, but the engine is in and running started in to it sat morning with the manifolds needing put on and had it running by 6 tonight:D just a bit of fine tunning and 1000mile run in and drag racing on the 8th june should be good:nod:
big thanks to all the lads that called down over the weekend to lend a hand:clap::clap:
think at 1 stage we had 7 sxoc members in the yard:sxoc:
it was great to hear it going again:thumbs:
sxoc FTW:sxoc:
When the two 6-cylinders were roaring away in the walled yard... that sound was epic!! :D Glad to see & hear it finally back up & working! :clap: :sxoc:
Col200sx
19-05-2008, 12:43
Great to hear she's up and running again stiv:clap:
So will there be another 1000-mile-around-Ireland-breaking-in-tour:wack:
So will there be another 1000-mile-around-Ireland-breaking-in-tour:wack:
Oh yeah! Must sort that again! :D Anyone want to come along as wingmen again this time?? Fair dues to PaddyS15 the last time! :clap: :sxoc:
CathyR33
09-06-2008, 13:41
Just read the whole thread. That's a hell of a lot of work, fair play Stiv. It's a credit to you. Hope you get the cam angle sensor problem sorted (i think that's what you said was wrong with it lol).
Well done :thumbs:
just a bit of fine tunning and 1000mile run in and drag racing on the 8th june should be good:nod:
Hope that 1000 involves a trip back over the road for a day or two.
Haven't seen you since the wedding.
Evilchap
10-06-2008, 10:13
What did you do to change from RB26 to RB28? Was it a stroker kit? How much difference does it make to power and lag?
Sorry for not doing a more in-depth search in the thread, there's much to read and I am supposed to be working today :)
It would increase the torque further yes?
calicagesracing
10-06-2008, 12:33
What did you do to change from RB26 to RB28? Was it a stroker kit? How much difference does it make to power and lag?
Sorry for not doing a more in-depth search in the thread, there's much to read and I am supposed to be working today :)
yep, it was the tomei 2.8 stroker kit designed for the rb26dett stiv used, giving more torque and potential for more power
only problem stiv noticed is he needed to use an rb26 front pulley due to it being designed to stop harmonic vibrations along the shaft, potentially leading to bearing failure
i'm sure stiv will be along soon to explain further/better and to tell us how his weekend went!
Evilchap
10-06-2008, 12:36
Cool stuff :D Thanks for that chaps.
Tomei stuff sounds pricey, I already bought HKS turbos, I think I'll be happy enough with my 26.
What did you do to change from RB26 to RB28? Was it a stroker kit? How much difference does it make to power and lag?
Sorry for not doing a more in-depth search in the thread, there's much to read and I am supposed to be working today :)
yep, it was the tomei 2.8 stroker kit designed for the rb26dett stiv used, giving more torque and potential for more power
only problem stiv noticed is he needed to use an rb26 front pulley due to it being designed to stop harmonic vibrations along the shaft, potentially leading to bearing failure
i'm sure stiv will be along soon to explain further/better and to tell us how his weekend went!
as calicagesracing said tomei 2.8 stroker kit and it was a 2.5 to start with not the 2.6,
having problems with the aem and the nissan cas looking in to a fix for it now, think it could have been the problem before with the piston's and plugs getting damaged(but the plugs didn't help),
from what i'm reading the timing can drift from up to 20degrees:eek: then the engine blows:cry:
Evilchap
10-06-2008, 14:24
So how will a stroked 28 compare to a 26? Sorry for all the questions, you've got my interest going now!
I am not 100% certain what the differences are between the 25 and 26 even, other than my being a badge snob and buying a 26 due to its GTR heritage.
not a lot in the blocks, the 26 head has solid lifters and the engine has lower compresion, lots of other small things, because of the size of the turbo it has a lot of lag but is still very drivable off boost and when running the way it should it will pull to 8500rpm
jp sent me some pic of the engine going back in, i forget to take pic's, good old jp:thumbs:
the wife has renamed the car the black hole, something about money disappearing, don't know what she means:D, some pics of it going to the drag day at the weekend
VERY nice :)
I've got an RB25 with that XSpower T70 in my S13,
http://www.stickerlanddriftteam.nl/media/gallery/gallery2/d/404-2/foto045.jpg
And use an Apexi powerintake thingy... Will that be enough ? Also, still using standard cams, what update is recommended ?
That's no XSpower T70, It's an HKS T04Z:nod:
gangsta_goose
18-06-2008, 15:21
I would upgrade to using some clamps to hold the silicone hoses on! :D
That's no XSpower T70, It's an HKS T04Z:nod:
I was talking about this one :)
http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=50818&stc=1&d=1196879668
http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=50819&stc=1&d=1196879668
But, any asnwers to these questions ? :
And use an Apexi powerintake thingy... Will that be enough ? Also, still using standard cams, what update is recommended ?
holly $%&# !!!! that's big for a turbo....
And use an Apexi powerintake thingy... Will that be enough ? Also, still using standard cams, what update is recommended ?
the pipe work look's like 3inch that should be ok, how much boost do you plan to run?
as for the cams, i've got tomei 256 intake and exhaust, if you go much bigger you'll need to change the hyd lifters to soild ones and that is a load of money(one of my next mods):thumbs:
are you anywhere near assen? going there on the 28th of this month on the bike for the gp racing:nod:
-wj- did you re weld the collector on your manifold, i have one of those in my loft and there was no way i was fitting it to my engine as the welding was terrible, bits falling off everywhere,
iv etried to re weld it inside but i still dont trust it.
thats a very nice intercooler install you have there tho, but do the lights still fit lol
Haven't rewelded it, but I did clean it up on the inside. Still found few loose pieces of weld :(
Stiv, I'm actually very close to Assen, only 30 miles away ! You're welcome to come and visit, and if you're looking for a place to sleep that's also no problem.
I don't really know how much boost I want to run, engine has been rebuilt bout 4k miles ago, with low compression CP pistons. I guess the engine can take alot, but don't know what the turbo's good for :)
Headlights aint going back either, pure drifter :)
I've just checked out their website & XSPower don't seem to give ratings for their turbos in terms of boost-pressure they can hold... :confused: I'm sure if you get in touch they'll tell you: http://xs-power.com/contact.html
naaah, they're probably say it'll do a gaziljon hp at 3000 rpm...
calicagesracing
21-06-2008, 00:00
naaah, they're probably say it'll do a gaziljon hp at 3000 rpm...
lol, yeah that sounds about right:wack::smash:
naaah, they're probably say it'll do a gaziljon hp at 3000 rpm...
Errmm...
...ratings for their turbos in terms of boost-pressure...
very nice mate . ive got my eye on a stroker kit for my one in the future.
you have a greddy inlet manifold. did it fit ok with the cluch cylinder?
very nice mate . ive got my eye on a stroker kit for my one in the future.
you have a greddy inlet manifold. did it fit ok with the cluch cylinder?
it didn't with the 1 that was in the car to start with, i moved it over a bit and when i was putting it back on i found a bit of oil leaking out of it, so got one from my local motor factor( not a nissan 1) and it was well smaller and fit's fine, bit of luck:D
good to know. have you driven it yet? what kind of lag have you got with that turbo?
good to know. have you driven it yet? what kind of lag have you got with that turbo?
the hks t04z with a .89a/r started to spool at about 3800, still not running right, waiting on the new aem cas disk:(
calicagesracing
15-06-2009, 16:25
sooooo, any updates stiv??
Irishpaddy
15-06-2009, 18:09
his head gasket is fecked:wack: truck turbos are not toys:wack:
I love that hks turbo :)
his head gasket dosent:D
awsome built tho
Irishpaddy
16-06-2009, 18:46
i was talking to him over the weekend.. hes using a hx35
the head must have gone on the last track day, thats what was causing the missing up top, just got the new holset hx35 turbo on with thanks to nelly(aka calicagesracing) to find out the head was gone:cry:
didn't up date this thread in a long time but the 28 engine was pulled out about 6 months ago, wouldn't rev passed 5k and chewed up the main bearings a second time:annoyed: think its getting harmonic vibrations.
so a standard engine is in for the time being, since it went in its had a miss up top on full load(head starting to fail) should have it back on the road on sunday, hope to pull it in sunday morning and put 1 of my spare heads on it, we can see how much power can be got from a standard engine with a truck turbo and Grandad's special brew!:wack:
WOOOOOOOO!!!! E85 goodness FTW!!! :clap: :sxoc: Don't forget to join the register... ;)
gofaster_s13
17-06-2009, 16:07
Would it be worth getting the mains line bored and fitting oversized bearings for the 2800 shaft ??
Would it be worth getting the mains line bored and fitting oversized bearings for the 2800 shaft ??
the crank had small marks on it the first time and got a 0.25mm regrind and the line bore got checked, the shaft was also checked to make sure it was straight and balanced, and it was. so new acl race bearings and a new oil pump and a lot of other stuff and it got 1200miles and still not passing 5k rpm before the bearing went.
don't know how much damage was done this time, didn't fully strip it yet. it's been sitting there for the last 6 months caus i got sick of spending time and money on that engine:annoyed:
took the car apart yesterday, then put it back together with the spare head i got skimmed during the week. also changed the spring in the waste gate to a smaller 1 (0.5 bar), so i now have a low boost setting:wack:
car is now running but needs new fans and a good mapping session, must compression test it now too, had the shop take a good bit off the head for Grandad's special brew:thumbs:
WOOOOOOOO!!!! E85 goodness FTW!!! :clap: :sxoc: Don't forget to join the register... ;)
errrm ... whats E85?:confused:
Bio-ethenol.................104RON gogo juice :cool:
as wookie said 104 ron so i can run higher compression with no knock, didn't get round to a compression test today but i did find a wiring problem, the nvcs has never worked but it will:D
This is some project, brilliant read man! Sound like you've got your work cut out though.
chrisdsx
19-12-2009, 11:53
any news on the car ?
me im still waiting on getting mine back just waiting on the cams to (poncams) to arrive :mad:
just spotted this thread now and have to say far balls to you stiv:thumbs:.
some great work been done with the car just a shame it's had a few hickups along the way but i'm sure it will all be sorted;).
so is she up and running on the e85 then?
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