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Nearly a case if suicidal tendencies last night. :)
I went out in the serious wets last night in the *****.
Jesus christ ! - I was driving at what I considered a gentle pace. Being aware of this cars reputation. Anyway I come to a dual carriage way and on entering it I give it some wiggs as the gap to get on was quite small.
Wtf spinny spin spinny spin wheels no traction.
Erk I think quickly make like its the snow your dirving in. So I shift to second. The minute the turbo comes on line spinny spin spin spin spinny.
Fearing the same thing in third I go for 4th lol and get some traction.
FFs I thought I was sure I wasn't giving THAT much gas.
So on I go.
Then on the roundabout outside my mates house that I was visiting I accelerate gently to come out of the corner.
Hello !! The back end steps out and comes around lol. Having never had this happen to me in any car ever this was a scary thing. I remember to get off the gas and it SNAPS back quite violently. I end up missing my turn and stopping with my nose pointing at the centre of the roundabout.
Luckily didn't get near any kerbs to do damage. So I pick up my mate and we head off to some local land to find out about this traction doings.
Jesus great fun but VERY dangerous when your not aware of what might happen or the first time you experience it.
So whats the best way to learn about sliding. My tires still seem in good order I guess the water keeps the rubber cooled ?
Anyone else ever got caught out by this or can recollect their first loss of control. I make no excuses. I had gotten to blazzeh to the power of the car and ignorance is a killer as they say I'm glad it gave me this wake up call without killing me.
P.S. if it ever snows I am getting the fecking BUS
AshT_200
03-10-2002, 12:04
Buy Traction Control.
And ditch the awful Yoko's that come as standard if you haven't already.
Can indeed be a scary thing. Happened to me a
couple of times during the first 2 weeks of ownership,
when I thought I was being careful. That was bout 3
years ago, and no problems since.
Probably the worst part is the snap back, which can be
very violent. If circumstances allow, may be best to let
it keep going round imho.
You will get used to the feel of the car, but good tyres
are the best answer. Eagle F1 seem very popular,
myself and a few others like Conti Premium Contact,
and I think Bridgestone are recommended.
Lets be careful out there ! :D
Originally posted by Lenagh
P.S. if it ever snows I am getting the fecking BUS
I'm looking forward to my first winter in the snow with my 200 (in Scotland!). Any advice for the more experienced 200 drivers from the board?
First time losing the back end: BMW 320, 15mph 2nd gear only a little gas... ended up facing wrong direction on a one way road, most embarrassing. Luckily no damage.
I've never lost it at speed thank god. Wagging from side to side yes, but never 360+ touch wood
lol my car is totally standard and has those awful YokoOwnu tires on it :)
My first thought for mods was induction and exhaust but I am convinced more power in the wet may be daft until I have sorted the wheels and tires out.
Lowering might help as well right ?
Originally posted by Lenagh
Lowering might help as well right ?
Lowered and stiffened cars seem generally more happy to kick the back out than before
My mate suggested that filling the boot with concrete might help as well ?
:D
first accidental loss of back end was in my BM318i, I ended up facing the front of the bus I was trying to overtake with the Driver pissing himself laughing at me....
always been able to control it since then, in fact I find the 2 ***** to be a bit of a pussy and very controllable when the back end does kick out, like people say though, it can be a bit savage when it comes back, nastiest one I ever slid was an MR2, damn nearly completly lost control of that beastie
Originally posted by dunc
I'm looking forward to my first winter in the snow with my 200 (in Scotland!). Any advice for the more experienced 200 drivers from the board?
Yep - buy another car for use in anything remotely slippy. Last winter, it snowed heavily one afternoon and I was out in the 200. There couldn't have been more than 1" of snow covering the road and a couple of tracks. I was down to crawling pace and still managed to lose the back end going round a left hander up a hill. Ended up sideways up the hill staring for what seemed like an age at a car sliding down the hill towards me before I managed to correct it. It then did the usual and snapped back towards the kerb. I just managed to catch it with a couple of inches to spare. By then I'd practically stopped and couldn't get any traction again to get up the damn road.
Shortly after that I lost it again while attempting to turn into a side street.
Me + 200 + snow = Never again:(
Originally posted by dunc
I'm looking forward to my first winter in the snow with my 200 (in Scotland!). Any advice for the more experienced 200 drivers from the board?
Panic :eek:
200's dont like snow. I got stuck trying to drive a ikle hill out of town. Only a thin layer of snow but i didnt have enough speed built up to make it all the way up! To make things worse they have put a tafic carming mesure there wich spits the two lanes of traphic so all these FWD shopping trollies easy made it up the hill to only get stuck behind me. So i could even reverce out of the problem!:eek::eek::eek:
In the end a gritter came the other way and I managed to get enough tracktion to pull away. Then spent the next 5 mins strugling up the hill at < 10mph.
Little gas, spin, slid to the left. :)
Lift of, violent snap back and lost speed. :(
moral of this... avoid hill's in the snow as ya will have problems getting up em... bit of a bugger in scotland!
Originally posted by dunc
I'm looking forward to my first winter in the snow with my 200 (in Scotland!). Any advice for the more experienced 200 drivers from the board?
Yes, DON'T DO IT
I drove to work in the snow when the car was standard once, and it was a nightmare. I was being overtaken by old women in metro's and vans. Anything above 2nd would result in a huuuge slide. I couldn't touch the throttle, had to idle about. It took me 3 hours to do a 30 mile journey... When I did try for 3rd, without hardly any throttle I went about 100 yards down the road SIDEWAYS, battling to regain control!
I even got stuck halfway up a hill, and a cyclist had to help push so I could gain traction. I suspect even TC wouldn't help!
I swore then and there NEVER AGAIN to drive in the snow.
Now, with about 40-50% more power and wider tyres I'll be staying at home if it snows! :rolleyes:
AshT_200
03-10-2002, 13:10
I attempted to drive to Edinburgh, the last new year. The A1 was queueing up past Newcastle, so I decided to go via Jedburgh. :eek: Big mistake.
Snow on the roads got so bad, I was in 5th going up a hill and couldn't keep traction.
Ended up turning around and spending the new year in London (Much nicer weather than up Norf :D)
It was really scary as my girlie can tell you :D
Nothing but encouragement about the 200's surprisingly capable and resurring roadholding in the snow then :eek:
Putting the snow aside.
What about the wet which is going to be a more common problem as we head into winter ?
Do you just all drive like grannies or do you learn how to drive at controllable speed.
spent alot of last night trying to work out how to launch the car in the wet. It just seems to be down to smoother application of power. Don't stamp on the gas EVER.
Originally posted by Lenagh
My mate suggested that filling the boot with concrete might help as well ?
:D
Yes, filling the boot with concrete will help you to lose the rear end. It might give you more grip but when it goes it will go much quicker.
The key to controlling it is not to make any sudden moves, and that includes lifting off the gas suddenly cos it will snap back and you'll end up wagging around like a tail on a big dog. As soon as you feel it start to slide steer into it gently, a liitle less gas but not completely off. Its about balancing the throttle, steering and the traction of the tyres.
Ah right so thats why fatty musta lost it on the waaahaaay video ;)
Right v interesting I am the first to admit that I am a complete performance car driving noob and learning the techniques is of HUGE interest to me.
Thanks for the advice wak I will try this throttle balance me thinks on some of our local land to see if I can get less snap back becuase that was something we kept getting alot of mainly like you say to me panicing when it stepped out (what was probably like 1 inch lol). I was getting totally off the gas as well.
Ha! You guys don't know anything about losing the back end until you've tried driving a Ford Capri 2.8i ;)
I've had two of the in the past and it's not so much the power that does it (only about 150bhp) as the awful, awful (30 year old) chassis design that means you can get the back out in the dry by giving the throttle just a gentle prod whilst going round anything vaguely resembling a corner :D :D :D
Coupled with wonderful absolutely 'no feel' power steering and brakes that basically don't work (drums on the rear!), it's death on wheels!
But very fun once you're used to it and what I learnt rear-wheel drive in - very good to teach you sliding
shadowninja
03-10-2002, 14:07
for rain driving, drive like a jessie and you'll be fine. do a track day in the wet too to experiment... stay off boost (below 3000rpm) ... or when it rains late at night go out and experiment with the grip on quiet empty twisty roads... of course, that's asking for trouble... but better to learn on empty roads than during rush hour traffic ;)
as for snow... take the bus or phone your boss saying you cant start your car. or buy a fwd car... safer but you still need to pay attention... mate of mine with his 4wd impreza lost it crawling down a gentle hill. fortunately for him there was no traffic coming at the t-junction at the bottom of the hill!
hehe,
Sounds like my Ginetta used to be (MKIII Cortina chassis). Sideways round mini roundabouts at 10mph!!! Oh well. Just out of interest, what do you do if you have to go down a fairly steep hill in the snow :eek:
Dave
Stay in the lowest gear possible - touch the accelerator and brakes as little as possible - and just let the car engine brake itself down the hill :) :D :D
My first spin: 85mph in a Citroen Visa :D
Driven my S13 to work through horrific weather every year. It's still a bit of a task, but definatly doable.
Snow:
Had the speedo at over 150mph in the snow in 5th gear without moving :D
Pull away in 2nd or 3rd gear
Be smooth
Be really smooth
Give extra extra braking room for when the ABS cuts in at 5mph.
Go slow and always be ready to dial on opposite lock... both hands on the wheel at all times possible.
Both hands on wheel when initiating baking, although try to take her down gently on the gears.
Bag of cinders in the boot for if you get really stuck!
Best braking in heavy snow is by suilding up a pile of snow in front of the tyres. Ironically you can do this best when going a bit sideways!
Golden rule: Respect the fact that this is a 200BHP turbo charged RWD - not something you can throw around for a bit of a laugh and without concentrating.
Ok... in the wet
Both hands on wheel when initiating braking.
If you stamp the throttle hard on a corner, you probably deserve the results! Especailly in 2nd, the boost will come on and you'll be around before you know it.
If the back steps out, blah blah opposite lock... and DON'T come straight off the throttle hard. Steer it on the throttle and bring into line gently.
Be straightening out early. If you wait for the back to come into line before turning the wheel, then you'll over correct and pendulum badly.
Be smooth with the controls. Don't stamp on any pedal.
Don't try to control oversteer with the clutch!
Originally posted by siranui
Give extra extra braking room for when the ABS cuts in at 5mph.
ABS, pah, not for me (early s13) thats just for sissys :rolleyes: , bring on the all 4 wheels locked up sliding action!
;)
You could buy a scoob :p ;) :D :cool:
beavertron
03-10-2002, 16:20
Thats why i bought this car:D :D :D :D :D :D
Originally posted by markehb
You could buy a scoob :p ;) :D :cool:
4WD, traction control and ABS for that matter are for cissys :D
Just keep the side windows clean so you can see where you are going
Holmes14a
03-10-2002, 16:44
First 200 ***** sideways exp was with both parents onboard at the heady speed of 23MPH exiting a wet R/about that was followed by an off camber 90 degree sweeping left. I can still hear my mums scream now:D
Must invest in some F1s before weather gets worse as my Yokos are pants!
Originally posted by Holmes14a
First 200 ***** sideways exp was with both parents onboard at the heady speed of 23MPH exiting a wet R/about that was followed by an off camber 90 degree sweeping left. I can still hear my mums scream now:D
Must invest in some F1s before weather gets worse as my Yokos are pants!
Mine was round a roundabout in the wet, showing off to a mate :rolleyes:
Foot down coming round roundabout. Back end comes out a bit...
and a bit more...
and a bit more...
and a bit more...
and I'm going nearly backwards! :eek:
I stuck my foot on the clutch and let it slide to a stop basically
Last year i decided to take my cossie out in the snow, and i couldnt even get it off the drive for about 10mins!! Driveway has a very slight incline on it, and i was just sat there with the arse end wagging from side to side on the driveway hehe :) Then when i did finally get out onto the road, i drove to town centre and back to do some shopping, and i dont think i blinked once during the whole journey..
BRILLIANT! :D :D
lol some good stories keep em coming.
I want to hear the ones where you thought you where gonna die tho :)
In particular I would love to hear peoples very first experience of "OMFG ARRRRGH WHATS HAPPENING WITH THE REAR OF THE CAR !!!" episodes.
shadowninja
03-10-2002, 18:27
Originally posted by markehb
You could buy a scoob :p ;) :D :cool:
they die in snow too, as i mentioned earlier. need chains or studded tyres to get anywhere in the snow!
anyway to add to what beavertron said... stop worrying and enjoy it!! :D
u have to ignore markeh he frequents the AA motahs forum with the rest of us AA'ers lol and like to jive me about the ***** from time to time. I'll put him back in his box :)
OMFG I owned myself in the wet lol
I hear a few insane people do this on a regular basis in the name of fun... :rolleyes:
:D :D :D
GOOD INNIT! ;)
PhilMorrison
03-10-2002, 18:32
I used to go out in my first mini (not the nice 1) everytime it snowed or rained hard, it was feckin fantastic fun bouncin it of curbs, doin reverse donuts, 40mph 360's :D, then I had the Mk2 golf, this was alot harder to drive in the snow, due to the weight and the 40 profile 215 tyres, having top take a run up to get up even the slightest incline. I dread to think what I'm gonna be like if it snows this year with a rear wheel drive turbo'd 235/35/19's shod 1300kg? beastie:eek: and theres no way I can feckin afford to curb these wheels:eek:
Originally posted by shadowninja
they die in snow too, as i mentioned earlier. need chains or studded tyres to get anywhere in the snow!
Not in the wet though ;)
yeah m8 when we tried it later in safer conditions it was like
OMFG GET ON THAT POWARSLIDAGE THIS BEATS THE RAIL GUN IN QUAKE 9 "!$^%£"£
:D
D where did you go on your slidy day that I saw pics for ? I would like to have another go in a safe environment.
Originally posted by shadowninja
they die in snow too, as i mentioned earlier. need chains or studded tyres to get anywhere in the snow!
anyway to add to what beavertron said... stop worrying and enjoy it!! :D
yep scoobys are crap in snow , my mate got a bent rim to prove he shold have taken his astra to work !
and if you think a 200 is crap in the snow try a lotus esprit turbo
:eek: :eek: :eek:
Originally posted by D
I hear a few insane people do this on a regular basis in the name of fun... :rolleyes:
:D :D :D
GOOD INNIT! ;)
sure is fun ! i even got nankangs on to make it slide better :D :D :D :D
mambastu
03-10-2002, 19:15
Hmmm, I used too look foward to driving my previous car (tuned Manta GTE) in the snow but the first time I drove the S13 on snow I remember driving at 30mph in the outside lane of a dual carriageway and everytime I slightly accellerated, in 4th gear, the backend would fishtail violently from side to side. Almost banged a lorry at one point. The car had standard skinnies and standard power at the time. Now, I probably wouldn't take it out.
The wets fine though, just respect the power and you won't have any problems. It doesn't have the 'interesting' waywardness of a Lotus Sunbeam :)
Driving a 2.0i DOHC Sierra on the country roads out here (middle of nowhere in the Scottish Countryside) in the heavy snow, lost it on a particularly bad corner but somehow managed to regain control and it ended as a 360 with me continuing on my way lol
- extrememly pant ****ting moment :eek:
I learnt my lesson(more than once) in my old BMW E30 318i
the funniest being in the snow, i was following my mate back to his house he was in a Peugeot 106, as we pulled in to the estate there is a mini roundabout, he went round no problem, i went round tried to straighten up on exiting the roundabout but the beemer was having none of it, slid straight in to a lamp post bending the lamp post and denting my wing(not as badly as i was expecting thought) later the lamp post was cut down,and another one of my friends who`s house the lamp was out side complained the next night down the pub that it was now all dark in his room:D :D
oh and there was a little incident with a slip road and a post in the wet and a 180 coming round a bend and a parked car which jumped out on me and caused £2000 damage to the other car, i bodged mine and used it for another 8 months, cost me £10 for an engine mount:D :D
My first snow 'incident' must have been about 10 years ago in my old Rover 216SE EFi. Coming from a mate's house, went down a hill (not very steep, but steep enough), then there's a 90 degree off camber left hander. I'm doing about 10mph by this time and as soon as I turn to the left, the car spins extremely rapidly and the arse knocks over a sign on the side of the road warning me about a slippery road :D :D :D Big dent in sign, no damage to Rover :D
Or there's my moment on ICE last winter in my 200...
http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=542&highlight=ice+hill
shadowninja
04-10-2002, 02:32
i recall a couple of years ago pulling away from the lights in the snow in my tvr... back tries to overtake the front in a straight line (thanks to road camber), at about 1500rpm :) good fun... except it was during morning rush hour!
Originally posted by ThunDeR
Driving a 2.0i DOHC Sierra on the country roads out here (middle of nowhere in the Scottish Countryside) in the heavy snow, lost it on a particularly bad corner but somehow managed to regain control and it ended as a 360 with me continuing on my way lol
- extrememly pant ****ting moment :eek:
Snap, me too! I bought a 2.0i DOHC sierra when I worked in a nightclub in Dundee (Scotland), it was purchased for the sole purpose off drifting. It was my first rwd car and in the icy ungritted morning roads it was great.
The most fun car I have EVER owned.
The very first night I got to drive around on my own after passing my test I was driving the car my dad gave me, a Renault 4 (think Citroen 2cv). Anyway, I was driving down a country lane seeing how fast I could go (not very, but it seemed fast) and I hit a bend at about 50, didn't bother slowing down until I realised halfway round the bend I was going much to fast and slammed the brakes on. The car didn't take kindly to this and I ended up facing the other way, in the grass verge, next to a tree and just before a big ditch. I still don't know how I never ended up wrapped around the tree or in the ditch.
Pete, You forgotten to mention the high tech leaf springs and live back axle to make for an exciting ride....
As for sliding, I have non-grippy, medium budget tyres, highly inflated, for the sole purpose of when it is damp I can enjoy the wonder of powersliding.
I reckon you don't want to beat it (get better tyres, traction control etc) but join it. I sold on my Traction control as I realised the best fun was on damp roads.
...Depends what you're after from driving I spose. As for technique, I agree, try and resist the temptation to completely come off the gas, the rear wheels will suddenly grip while you're on almost full lock and you'll fly off the other way. Just throttle back a little more and MAKE SURE you're ready to get the lock off as the back comes in. Reverse oversteer is usually THE one that takes you flying off the road into a hedge (or shop as I saw recently :) )
.... I love it. Don't try and tame the beast.
shadowninja
04-10-2002, 12:33
Originally posted by Will
As for sliding, I have non-grippy, medium budget tyres, highly inflated, for the sole purpose of when it is damp I can enjoy the wonder of powersliding.
*cheer* Avons forever! :D
Goodyear on the front..
Woosung on the back!
The way it should be :D
Yer Dunc I agree, Sierra's 0wn lol. I still have a soft spot for em - it was the car I learned how to drive properly in - great fun with their tail happy character matched with moderate power from the 2.0i DOHC engine (130BHP) in a RWD config.
:)
My only other big "off" wasn't really a slide but it was amusing...afterwards, it was in my lowered and stiffened Volvo 480 with 205's which beleive me really did have amazing handling, it would have caned my 2 ***** round corners no worries, anyway I digress, there was one night after an argument with the Girlfriend and I took the long country road route to calm off, those who live in the Blackburn area will know the road that goes past Billinge past the Clog and Billy Pub down to Feniscowles, there's a left at the telephone box, down the hill to a sharp right with bad road condition and a bad camber, I attempted to go round this corner at 90, I'm not sure how many times the car spun round, I just remember lookiing up through my windscreen seeing the stars whirling round before it finally left the road, through the hedge and on to the top of a sapling, I had to get out of the car through the passenger door cos the drivers door was too close to the road, and a passing taxi, with a tow rope pulled me out with me pushing on the roof as it came out to stop it tipping over, I had to climb up the tree to get what was left of the numberplate down, looking at the road, it was just a mess of black lines, I drove it home, the only things wrong with it were the number plate gone, a bust front fog light and the bumper was cracked. Most other cars I've driven harshly have been RWD :D with my personal favourite for handling being a Vauxhall Chevette with a 2ltr 16V Astra GTE engine in, most of the running gear is manta and the diff is welded up :), brings a new dimension of terror to mini roundabouts
Dial back 8 years....
I was in my first car, a beige Morris Ital with a rather attractive brown vinyl roof and a really grim orange interior.
It was the 1.7l HLS model as standard (as if you'd mod a heap like that!!!)
For those unfamiliar with the HLS it's a rear whell drive, NA four pot with something like 125 85 x 13" tyres (ie pram wheels!!)
It was my first car bought from a friends Grandad who sold it to me for the princely sum of £350.
So, I'm driving along a stretch of 40mph dual carriageway with my mate in the car who says "so what's the difference between front and rear whell drive then?"
'WEEEELLL' I says, 'Watch this' and feed in bit of power on a round about. Problem is that it's very very wet and in my early niave days I didn't know about negative camber.
This round about is on the side of a slight hill so to feed in the oncoming road there is about a 2' negative camber.
I ended up spinning about 570' to face back the way I ahd come from with my mate screaming like a bitch and a very pissed off old lady looking right in the eye at a distance of about 5 feet.
GUTTED... still I learnt my RWD lessons early and now enjoy the full benefit of the SX
HE HE. Alg
:)
Try ringing up your local Dibble station, the HQ in Maidstone runs skid training courses on their skid pan, only about £30, and you can get it as out of shape as you like with out riskink hitting anything, good practice and tuition.
MattyGee
05-10-2002, 18:32
altho i never managed to get my dads old vauxhall Viva into any snow (its RWD was enough for me when i was 17, shame i killed its gearbox too soon to get the most fun out of it :( ) ive had my GTi sideways a few times, some on purpose and a few scary ones by accident.
the worst time was in the wet around an island in coventry city centre in saturday morning traffic. i lost it with a couple of mates in the car ( i blame their weight not my over confidance in the wet :p ), first it went out to the right and tried to face the island then i over-corrected and ended up going the opposite way towards some railings :eek: shat me and my mates up a treat, luckily i managed to get it facing back the way everyone else was going and took it VERY slowy round every corner after that. snow just makes my GTi slide no matter what. its too light and the 1.9 allys make it just sit on top of the snow and go wherever it wants.
cant wait to get my 200 :D , altho ill be driving like a granny for ages till i get used to it :rolleyes:, i would be seriously pi55ed off if i i bent it by doing something stupid.
All you Sierra lovers - you should really try an old Capri! The best car I have ever owned for sliding in the wet or the dry.
A 2.8i engine with 150bhp and bags of low down torque - all through a nice LSD to stop that inside-wheel-spinning-on-it's-own-why-am-I-still-going-in-a-bloody-straight-line crap.
And to top it all, as Will pointed out, some lively high tech single leaf springs connecting the rear axle to the car with some string and wet chewing gum. :D :D :D
Matt, my last car was a 205 1.9 GTI, and I know exactly what you mean about the lift-off oversteer - it's so nasty!
Power into a corner, lift off too much whilst cornering hard...
And then suddenly before you know it you're facing the wall. I know three other people who've had them and it took them all completely by surprise...
Caused one of them to have a head on crash round a tight bend at 70mph - engine was out of what was left of the car and across the road - he was lucky to survive that.
The only time it happened to me I was going round a big wide roundabout, bit twitchy on the power and then I suddenly found myself facing the roundabout, facing the verge, facing the roundabout, facing the verge and then I just managed to catch it.
My mate in his 1.6 GTI behind said he saw me through both side windows spinning the steering wheel like a man posessed!
And as soon as I straightened up I still blew him away down the next bit of road with a big grin on my face :D
I told him he shoulda bought a 1.9 in the first place ;) :D
My first ever experience of driving in snow was when I was 17 in a BMW 328i convertible I shared with my Dad. That was a bit hairy. Very good for teaching car control though - and I found that you stand more of a chance with the TC off, otherwise you don't have the same degree of control. The look on everyone elses faces when you do a 100m powerslide at 10mph is quite funny too.....
Originally posted by pete_cotton
I told him he shoulda bought a 1.9 in the first place ;) :D
I bought a 1.6 and ended up buying a 1.9 anyway :rolleyes: - I'll not make that mistake again!
The 1.6 handled alot better though, it has wider front track and narrower rear track. I never got understeer in my 1.6 when I fitted the 1.9 alloys, only oversteer :eek: :D
I've had my 200 s14 for nearly 3 weeks now and in the first week had the car fishtailing with me requiring a change of Calvins!!!
The cars I have owned / driven to date are:
Metro 1.1 :D
Fezzy 1.1
Tigra 1.6
Saxo 1.6
Hyundai Lantra Estate
Hyundai Accent
Golf TDi
Merc SLK
Mondeo
and now my 200
I had the Saxo up till I bought the 200 and obviously from the list am absolutely inexperienced with RWD, n'mind anything with any decent HP! So, I'm casually driving round town late one night in the dry, comes to a right hand turn into whats basically a 2 lane road when there's no cars parked. So, the road is clear and I still have *Saxo Vision*, so I enter into the turn having changed down to 2nd, turn in and apply more than necessary right peddle pressure as I attempt to power through the corner ala Saxo FWD! Oh Dear! Out comes back end, turtles head and my mates kleenex! I notice him grab the handrail and the side of the seat as I (totally unprepared and inexperienced) fight with the steering wheel to keep some sort of forward motion! After having it left and right roughly 4 times I realise I'd planted the peddle in my terror and lift off slightly which causes some major grip and I end up facing the central reservation thinking I'm gonna end up being some kind of ornamental piece adorning it! Last swift spin of the wheel and we were straight! I looks across at my mate and he grins and says "Easy tiger!" to which I just nervously giggle and proceed to drive at 20 mph for the next mile fearing touching the accelerator on a bend or corner!!!
Methinks the Bab's training course is a bloody good idea! Roll on winter! Yippee ;)
Originally posted by dunc
I'm looking forward to my first winter in the snow with my 200 (in Scotland!). Any advice for the more experienced 200 drivers from the board?
Have fun!!!!
Try not to get up any steep hills!!
Watch out for large kerbs!!
If u can get drivable traction, ur a better man than me.
Kev
In 200 which now has broken turret.
Im heading home from nightclub i work in bout 3 months ago.
Seen a mate and his mate with a couple of birds standin in the rain so i stopped to give them a lift (nice guy me:D) so anyway theres now 5 of us in the car.
Me mates mate is well impressed with the car and starts chattin bout it "what does this guage do".......etc.
So im getting the old swelling head syndrome.
He says to me can i change it down to 4th as we come up to this corner (chicane type thing), me "yeah sure".
Anybody guess what happened? Yeah he stuck it into second!!
But its ok cos i hear the revs b4 i hit the corner so i know what gear im in.
I decide it will be fun to show them a bit of sideways action, just step it out a foot or two.
But im in turbo range.........
left oversteer Kerb kerb kerb foook, right over steer feck feck feck other kerb.
Repeat around 5 times!!!
Eventually straighten up without hitting anything and am near to passing out with relief.
Mates mate turns and says that was awsome, can u do it again?
HE THOUGHT ID TRIED IT!!!!!!:D :D :p :D :D
This time it was down to in part, a flat(ish) tyre and two baldy ones on the back, a full mota and a big head:rolleyes: :o
But oooh what fun!!!
Duncan on the oval we SHALL have fun mate:D :D :D
Kev
Ok... how I spun out my Visa (This was on an Autobahn, measured in Kph, in an alternate universe, and I might have dreamed it all)
Thrashing from work late one night. Trying to get to the pub before closing time.
I'm going waaaayyyy too fast on a damp road.
Right hander comes up and I pitch into it at about top speed and realise that I am about 30mph too fast. Backend comes around and at 80-90 mph I spin.
Spun twice and then flicked it straight, leaving the spin at over 60mph (I looked at the speedo in astonishment!).
I have NO IDEA how I did it!
I then pulled over for 15 minutes because I was shaking like a leaf within a minute.
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