Stevenage Boys Trackday Prep Chat [Archive]

Bayside Blue

19-01-2006, 10:13

Shortly after the 27th i will have the following added to my mods list.

Coilovers.
Rear Camber arms.
Rear Toe arms.
Pineapple Rings (as we wouldn't be able to do the bushes in time).
Braided brake hoses.
Castrol brake fluid - enough to change the the fluid & bleed the brakes.
Silkoline Pro RS 10w50 (to add to my 1 litre i have left in my old container - will sort my oil change after the track day as it's only just been changed).

I also will have about £300 cash spare after all my bills / petrol etc.
But ill keep this close for any surprises.

555s & Mapping with end of febuary pay. :thumbs:

I don't mind being ':ghey:'

Just got 10326 on my powerball :D not bad for first day! Will um... Improve my grip of the steering wheel and the strength of my arm for track days :wack: honest!

Yakko

19-01-2006, 10:18

archenemy.co.uk

19-01-2006, 10:20

IIWY Martin I'd swap the Pineapples for those new metal bush things Brens doing - same thing but a bit more extreme

Don't bother with the toe arms you won't need them until 40mm plus lowering, and to get that to sit right you'd have to go 50+ on the front. much lower and you'll be going outside the practical range of the cars setup.

Go for the front TC/castor arms instead (like me) or put the money towards an oil cooler

Bayside Blue

19-01-2006, 10:23

archenemy.co.uk

19-01-2006, 10:24

I've got brakes and suspension arms on the way.

So, with that little lot that Mart's getting - and when you've both had your 555s mapped, we're all up to the same level. Just in time for the track season. :thumbs:

I'm concerned, you are all piling on the power with no thought for extra cooling

We don't want any engine failures :indiff:

Bayside Blue

19-01-2006, 10:27

Talking about oil coolers there Phil? I may check them out when i'm looking for my 555s

archenemy.co.uk

19-01-2006, 10:29

Think im going to try book it into APT sometime on the week beginning monday the 27th of feb or the weekend immediately before. I'll see how much money i get and maybe buy the 555's ready this month.

It still works out the same in the end though really :thumbs: will speak to Gary when i'm paid.

Have you thought about getting these Coilovers set up right, I mean weights as well as alignment etc

While you're up at Garys you'd be close to SCA where he used to work?? may be they could help you

Don't forget you'll need approx £100 for alignment alone

archenemy.co.uk

19-01-2006, 10:31

Talking about oil coolers there Phil? I may check them out when i'm looking for my 555s

Yes an oil cooler, think Brens kit is about £150 now :confused:

There are some hoses you could use in the driftworks shop too, we could make it up ourselves, hoses were the expensive part but those are cheapy & SS braided too :cool:

I use a 19 row Mocal oil cooler, a bigger mouth bumper, and some redline water wetter in the coolent.

archenemy.co.uk

19-01-2006, 10:33

Concentrate on the brakes and suspension first, its all about them and the driver

Power later

Yakko

19-01-2006, 10:34

The only thing that put me off an oil cooler was in the Oil Analysis thread it seemed to suggest that it was unnecessary...

archenemy.co.uk

19-01-2006, 10:38

The only thing that put me off an oil cooler was in the Oil Analysis thread it seemed to suggest that it was unnecessary...

I haven't read it

But I know that people with oil coolers see temps approaching 120 C, that 10w 50 oil is only good to 130 so they are running it pretty fine even with a cooler.

It wouldn't be my choice to run without one but people have done it

What in particular has been said on that thread?

I run the 5w40 oil for added cold protection, its only good to 120C but I can do it as I have the cooler

leelee

19-01-2006, 10:40

The only thing that put me off an oil cooler was in the Oil Analysis thread it seemed to suggest that it was unnecessary...

amen :nod:

Unless you can get a thermo plate that doesnt open until 100C minimum and your going to be doing trackdays every weekend then i wouldnt bother.

If i had a proper drift or track car then i would fit one :nod: constantly getting the oil to over 140C will shorten its life but a trackday 3 times a year or so isnt going to do squat to it. :no:

spend the money on one of those cooling panels to channel the air through your FMIC and the engine :thumbs:

archenemy.co.uk

19-01-2006, 10:47

I don't know

that looks like a mixed bag to me, I do have a thermo plate, so do most, It starts to open at about 70 C don't know when its fully open may be 100 C :confused:

He says he would fit one on a proper track car

When I spoke to oilman about this (who sells the oil in all your cars) he said the oils protective properties are good to 130C for the 10-50 and 120C for the 5-40. Higher temps than that would see the oil giving reduced protoection to your engine parts - i.e. they start to wear quickly. Once you get to that situation its a viscious circle,

oil gets too hot > engine wear > bits of engine in oil > increased friction > oil temps rise > and so on

Its added insurance, I'd fit one

Reminds me I must finish my cooling panel

Bayside Blue

19-01-2006, 10:50

I have enough spare to sort out all my alignment, I'm not sure about the cooler. Changing my oil straight after the track day anyway. :) I can moniter the temperature anyway. It won't rise that suddenly. If i see it at 120 still going up ill just come off the track and let the car cool down a bit.

Isn't it opening at 70 too soon. Thought the oil is best at a minimum of 80.

archenemy.co.uk

19-01-2006, 10:51

I have enough spare to sort out all my alignment, I'm not sure about the cooler. Changing my oil straight after the track day anyway. :) I can moniter the temperature anyway. It won't rise that suddenly. If i see it at 120 still going up ill just come off the track and let the car cool down a bit.

:thumbs:

BTW I'll be taking the camcorder to the RR on Sunday for some footage of Rich crying

leelee

19-01-2006, 10:54

leelee

19-01-2006, 10:56

some footage of Rich crying

http://www.forumspile.com/That-Is-Excellent-MrBurns.jpg

archenemy.co.uk

19-01-2006, 11:00

I will eventually get one, reading the beginners thread , its said to limit yourself to 15 min sessions, so surely just letting the engine chill out in between sessions will suffice :confused:

putting my 200 on the track is turning out to be more bloody expensive than i thought :cry:

Yeah but 15 mins sessions are a bit short eh, Lap to warm up, one to cool down, doesn't leave you much in the middle :wack:

30mins is better :thumbs:

Doing stuff like Japfest would be OK

Open pit lane stuff, you might want to run a bit longer

Bayside Blue

19-01-2006, 11:01

Yakko

19-01-2006, 11:01

I am fcuked if my clutch gives up this Sunday.... i've been out and nailed it a few times in fourth and there's no hint of slip *touches wood* so I might be ok.

Oil cooler wise, it's not something I can afford before Bedford, maybe i'll look into it for later in the year.

Allignment wise, I'm going to drop it a further 15mm or so and then have the allignment set back to spec - was going to have it done on the laser geo machine in Welwyn, did an ace job last time.

Cornerweighting feels like overkill ATM - but if it's comparable in price i'd look into it. Any ideas Phil?

Bayside Blue

19-01-2006, 11:03

Allignment wise, I'm going to drop it a further 15mm or so and then have the allignment set back to spec - was going to have it done on the laser geo machine in Welwyn, did an ace job last time.

Cornerweighting feels like overkill ATM - but if it's comparable in price i'd look into it. Any ideas Phil?

Where is it?

archenemy.co.uk

19-01-2006, 11:03

Thats my game plan. Keep to Dr. Bobs suggestion. / when my oil looks to hot. Which ever happens later. :thumbs:

I see I'm wasting my time here :rolleyes: :D

You've all got gauges, so just keep an eye on them and all will be good

Bayside Blue

19-01-2006, 11:04

You've all got gauges, so just keep an eye on them and all will be good

Yeah, well as i said... Mine are in a sensible place to see them Phil I don't need to look down which is cumbersome in a helmet :p

Anyways...

Where is it?

that alignment place Rich?

archenemy.co.uk

19-01-2006, 11:05

archenemy.co.uk

19-01-2006, 11:06

Yeah, well as i said... Mine are in a sensible place to see them :p

:whip:

yeah getting in the way of your windscreen bleeping and flashing away :p

archenemy.co.uk

19-01-2006, 11:08

Yeah, well as i said... Mine are in a sensible place to see them Phil I don't need to look down which is cumbersome in a helmet :p

If your helmet doesn't move WITH your head you may have the wrong size :wack:

Bayside Blue

19-01-2006, 11:09

:whip:

yeah getting in the way of your windscreen bleeping and flashing away :p

I't fine... as long as your not a motorbike approaching from the right on a mini roundabout.

RICH WHERE ARE YOU. I need my alignment done!

archenemy.co.uk

19-01-2006, 11:10

He's PMing me a wrong guess :D

Bayside Blue

19-01-2006, 11:11

If your helmet doesn't move WITH your head you may have the wrong size :wack:

I didn't mean that, it's better now without the visor but it still impeeds on your vison a bit in terms of seeing down :) Can you see your gauges without moving your head is what i meant. Not that it's any big deal lol

archenemy.co.uk

19-01-2006, 11:23

I don't know

I doubt it, but I just glance down as you would glance across :confused:

Bayside Blue

19-01-2006, 11:31

lol... I win my location is better because I say so. Those are the rules which i made up just now :p

leelee

19-01-2006, 11:34

Phil, after your brake fluid snags at japfest last year , what you using now? the Castrol SRF seems a tad expensive :eek: 40 quid a litre

Bayside Blue

19-01-2006, 11:41

Is it I thought bren does some for £10.50?

http://www.sxoc.co.uk/vbb/showthread.php?t=191901&highlight=brake+fluid

unless thats for 250ml bottles :wack:

leelee

19-01-2006, 11:43

thats Castrol Response, tis different fluid :)

Bayside Blue

19-01-2006, 11:44

It's ok for trackdays though... We'll im assuming if you read that very short thread. So thats what im getting :)

leelee

19-01-2006, 11:46

yeah, i can't be arsed spending £40 a litre either :no:

Yakko

19-01-2006, 11:48

I doubt it, but I just glance down as you would glance across :confused:

Muhahahaha, I don't even have to look - if something untoward is showing on the gauges, i get a nice loud alarm. :D

I got my allignment done in Supertyres in Welwyn.

It's not like the tracking etc that you could do in KwikFit - It's a FULL laser allignment set-up, so can't do cornerweights, but it does have full diag of camber, castor, toe, lock etc. They provide you with a printout showing before, after and target geometry.

I think this is probably enough for track noobs like me. It cost £100 to have everything corrected when I fitted my Eibachs. If someone can find somewhere else which will also do cornerweights etc for a comparable price. :thumbs:

archenemy.co.uk

19-01-2006, 11:51

Phil, after your brake fluid snags at japfest last year , what you using now? the Castrol SRF seems a tad expensive :eek: 40 quid a litre

SRF is uber expensive, can't be worth it :confused:

There are a number of lesser Castrol fluids in the response range, I think I have this correct but you can check

Castrol Response
Castrol Super response
Castrol super response racing

Could be wrong

Anyhow I use the MOTUL RBF 600 Dot 4 racing stuff as on my spec page. Its £10 per litre, you get it in 500ml bottles. To do a total change you'll need 1 litre, and have a bit to spare.

I need some more, plus some other stuff

Why don't you all work out what you need from the oilman and I'll put in a group buy order :)

Yakko

19-01-2006, 11:55

I'd be up for a litre of the Motul stuff Phil if you're putting an order in.

:thumbs:

archenemy.co.uk

19-01-2006, 11:56

I got my allignment done in Supertyres in Welwyn.

It's not like the tracking etc that you could do in KwikFit - It's a FULL laser allignment set-up, so can't do cornerweights, but it does have full diag of camber, castor, toe, lock etc. They provide you with a printout showing before, after and target geometry.

I think this is probably enough for track noobs like me. It cost £100 to have everything corrected when I fitted my Eibachs. If someone can find somewhere else which will also do cornerweights etc for a comparable price. :thumbs:

Ah that'll be the place my brother and I went recently and had an argument with the manager after he said he had 2 tyres, started stripping the tyres off my Bros car then mysteriously couldn't find said tyres, and offered us the next ones up which were an extra £20 each, with next to no discount for his incompetence. :rolleyes:

No don't think I'm welcome there :wack:

Bayside Blue

19-01-2006, 11:56

leelee

19-01-2006, 11:56

MOTUL RBF 600 Dot 4 racing stuff
Why don't you all work out what you need from the oilman and I'll put in a group buy order :)

Reckon 2 litres each then boys?

archenemy.co.uk

19-01-2006, 11:57

You need a litre EACH to completely bleed out all your existing fluid

Bayside Blue

19-01-2006, 11:58

I know. I've got mine coming from Bren :)

archenemy.co.uk

19-01-2006, 11:59

Not organised enough yet Phil. Once we've got the experience of this one out the way im sure we're all know what we want exactly and when. :) I've changed my order with bren 3 times in the last week. He must be getting annoyed lol!

You will need good new brake fluid before anything, don't go with nasty old fluid, I was lucky when that silicone stuff expired, I wasn't at a tight corner :eek:

Edit Ah now I see

Yakko

19-01-2006, 11:59

Reckon 2 litres each then boys?

Nope...

I'd be up for a litre of the Motul stuff Phil if you're putting an order in.

:thumbs:

:thumbs:

When you putting the order in Phil? Would need it a few weekends ahead of Bedford.

:)

leelee

19-01-2006, 12:00

well mine needs a full bleed, i thought 2 litres to be safe , plus some spare :) , i thought it was a bit of a no-no mixing fluids anyway :confused:

19-01-2006, 12:02

Oy! Keep your chat off the Trackday thread :smash:

Pot/Kette/black

My thoughts on oil coolers.

1) Road driving
More harm than good
2) Trackdays, short sessions, cool air - you can manage without
3) Trackdays, 30mins sessions, 20-odd ambient, pushing hard - you'll hit 120oC even with a cooler - essential.

My Thermostatic plate seems to keep the oil at 70oC in this weather, on the work run, no higher unless I really push on, and I mean really push, for more than 5mins ;) Last year it kept it at 80oC but then I had 3.5L oil capacity, now i have 5L oil capacity so it runs cooler anyway.

One good thing is, soon the cooler will be on the S13 (they seem to need them at an earlier point from what I gather) and the S14 can be left oil-cooler free :D Which has to be better for my daily drive. I'll also drop the oil from the S14 from 10w50 to 5w40

archenemy.co.uk

19-01-2006, 12:05

well mine needs a full bleed, i thought 2 litres to be safe , plus some spare :) , i thought it was a bit of a no-no mixing fluids anyway :confused:

Do you remember the thread I wrote about changing the silicone fluid out. Its a taotally different colour to the mineral stuff, and they don't mix so I was able to measure it accurately, right down to how much for each wheels in turn. It was very surprising, I'll dig out the thread

1 litre is enough, trust Phil :thumbs:

Rich and Martin (and anybody else) think about what oil you need and brake fluid.

I can order when you are ready, some time in the next couple of weeks should give plenty of time

leelee

19-01-2006, 12:07

ok phil :)

if you do go for a group buy then a litre of brake fluid and some silkolene 15-50 then ,ta :notworthy :thumbs:

Yakko

19-01-2006, 12:07

I'm ordering my engine oil from Bren with my next order, so just the brake fluid will be good for me. :thumbs:

Re: Oil coolers, we should be fine at Bedford i think, nice low temps in early March and we're limiting ourselves to fairly short sessions.

I'll look into getting one in March/April maybe.

archenemy.co.uk

19-01-2006, 12:15

Total brake fluid change thread (http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=177760&highlight=silicone+bleed%2A)

See post #9

800ml looks like :)

Yakko

19-01-2006, 14:03

Pfff - I vote we reject this thread on the basis of being labelled Bum Boys!

:)

Bayside Blue

19-01-2006, 14:07

lol I told SM that lol. It's all Dan E's fault for starting calling us that in the first place :smash:

Yakko

19-01-2006, 14:09

lol I told SM that lol. It's all Dan E's fault for starting calling us that in the first place :smash:

Dunno, Laura has been calling us that for ages....

:mad:

Maybe SM is frolicking with my Mrs..... :furious: :mad:

stevec

19-01-2006, 14:18

corner weighting a car after fitting coilovers is essential IMO. before you get the allignment done too as the geometry will probably change when you get the weights done.

if you are doing the GT circuit at bedford (the longest one) then you should be ok RE oil temps as there is a nice 1 km straight to get some cool ait in and cool the brakes down too.

I wouldn't do more than 20 minutes without a cooler though...

back to corner weighting, when I put mu coilovers on the car I wound each of the springs up the same number of turns and got the height adjustments spot on off the car then put it on the scales and it was all over the place. it is a time consuming job my car took about 2 1/2 hours for GTART to do and that was using air tools to take the wheels off.

time is money unfortunately.

/Steve

Bayside Blue

19-01-2006, 14:24

19-01-2006, 14:34

Us 'Stevenburg' bum boys :ghey: are meant to start our track days this coming year and we plan to do a load around the country
http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/showpost.php?p=1972070&postcount=17

I didnt make up that phrase, so dont blame me :D

stevec

19-01-2006, 14:47

each wheel goes on a pressure pad, which tells us the weight each wheel has pressing on it. then the coilovers are adjusted to give as close to 50% weight distribution as possible. when they take the measurements you are sitting in the car., mine was set up for having a passenger too.

when they adjust the suspension they will probably alter the ride height and preload, hence getting the geometry set up once you are happy with the weight distribution.

you can get an idea of how good it is already by going to a weigh bridge but this can only tell you front/rear distribution rather than the left/right but you do get an idea. mine was about 51 front 49 rear before but still had to have a lot of adjustments done. simply winding one suspension leg up doesn't always have the desired effect and the 3 others need to be dropped, if you follow.

if you take it to an experienced track prep place they will probably be quicker as they do this day in day out, not many hobby people get it done but afterwards you wonder why you were driving the car like it was:nod: and how you didn't crash it...

/Steve

Bayside Blue

19-01-2006, 14:55

Sounds expensive & Specialist :wack: know any places in the SE that would do that kind of thing?? Is there anything else they do apart from winding the suspension legs up and down? I plan to keep this car for a long time so i'd see it as an investment :)

Martin :thumbs:

Lennie

19-01-2006, 15:06

LOL @ all you bum boys buying loads of stuff.

I want to buy a old carton, turn up and beat you all. :D

stevec

19-01-2006, 15:07

GTART Near Brighton is where I had mine done. but if there is a race track nearer to you then there are bound to be tuners on hand who will be able to do it.

sounds like one for google to me. most tuners have them I think...

/Steve

Bayside Blue

19-01-2006, 15:11

Cheers. :thumbs:

Lennie I value my car :p

When it's not broken!!! :furious: :rant: :whip: :mad: :annoyed:

makka_s

19-01-2006, 16:02

Bum boys, ha ha :D :ghey:

archenemy.co.uk

03-02-2006, 10:32

Right you fellow bum boys

Thinking about this weekend, I think its a bit much for Me Yakko and Martin to all turn up at my FIL place and start taking stuff out of his garage and then pulling our cars apart :(

But if we want to fit these coilovers now to bed in, we must measure them and set them up to the same ride height as now which means we need a nice flat floor - which the garage has

I can't see the answer :(

Yakko

03-02-2006, 10:34

Yakko

03-02-2006, 10:40

What about fitting them, wherever... then driving on them, then adjusting 'em in the Roaring Meg, or some other quiet carpark - nice and out of the way?

archenemy.co.uk

03-02-2006, 10:42

adjusting them will require wheel removal - bit dodgy in a car park

I'll think some more about it :(

I'll find out if they are in this weekend

Yakko

03-02-2006, 10:50

Don't worry about it too much Phil - don't want to sour your relations with the FIL.

I'm happy to fit 'em on my drive, go for a quick drive and then adjust them on the (flatter) road outside my house.

leelee

03-02-2006, 10:51

i should be free sunday if anyone needs a hand :thumbs:

Yakko

03-02-2006, 10:54

I'm happy to fit 'em on my drive, go for a quick drive and then adjust them on the (flatter) road outside my house.

We could do all three cars like this Phil - Me and Mart use my drive every weekend.

It's no problem...

archenemy.co.uk

03-02-2006, 10:57

Ok here's a plan

Martin and Rich come to my house saturday morning, we all go to FIL place. Measure up

You guys go and put your coilovers on at Riches while I do mine at FILs

You come back to measure up / make adjustments

It has the Anna seal of approval :thumbs:

Lee have you got a set of these to go on?

leelee

03-02-2006, 11:02

nope, coilovers are a bit further down the mod route for me, i've got KYB shocks and my cusco ARB's at the mo :thumbs:

archenemy.co.uk

03-02-2006, 11:16

*tumbleweed*

Rich must have gone for a cr@p :D

Yakko

03-02-2006, 11:28

*tumbleweed*

Rich must have gone for a cr@p :D

Sounds good to me Phil (And I was away in a meeting!)

What time do you want us round yours? Early start as possible really I guess...

archenemy.co.uk

03-02-2006, 11:31

9.30??

Assuming mine turn up :(

Bayside Blue

03-02-2006, 12:06

thats not early lol :ghey:

archenemy.co.uk

03-02-2006, 12:17

What time then :rolleyes:

Got a parcel here :D

Bayside Blue

03-02-2006, 12:25

earlier lol :D lazy bones

archenemy.co.uk

03-02-2006, 12:45

:confused: 9 :confused:

Bayside Blue

03-02-2006, 12:54

Yeah thats more like it. :wack:

Ealier the better more time incase something slows us up. :)

Mind you with our combined strength in tools lol nothing shall stand in our way :wack:

archenemy.co.uk

03-02-2006, 13:26

Ok then, so is it 9am at my place, everybody happy with that

I'd say meet there, but

1. I'm always late and need to be there first :wack:
2. You'd never find it :rolleyes:

Yakko

03-02-2006, 13:40

Cool - 9 it is.

You taking all the necessary stuff for measuring up Phil?

archenemy.co.uk

03-02-2006, 13:44

Lennie

03-02-2006, 13:49

6:30am

Bayside Blue

03-02-2006, 14:29

like a tape measure, yeah I'll dig one out :wack:

I'll be taking my Camber gauge, somebody bring a scientific calculator

If you can work out how the toe thing works we can try that on martins dodgy aligned car :wack:

Calc no problem :D

With these coilovers once set up right where all going to be "drifters" thats in the correct sence of the word (not this Lennie :ghey: doristar fashion). We can get our cars from oversteer closer to neutral as in all tyres losing grip at the same time :wack: Anyways off to learn more :wack: ;)

archenemy.co.uk

10-02-2006, 14:27

Large Jerry can shaped parcel just arrived :)

Ready for pickup :thumbs:

Bayside Blue

10-02-2006, 14:34

AARGGH :whip:

10-02-2006, 14:37

How many did you get?

archenemy.co.uk

10-02-2006, 14:47

one each :) with a full tank thats 85 litres

Yakko

10-02-2006, 14:51

Large Jerry can shaped parcel just arrived :)

Ready for pickup :thumbs:

Phil, you about this weekend for mass brake bleeding session?

10-02-2006, 14:53

OK, for referance me, bren and SteA usually need a full tank and and 2 or 3 to last the full day without any major issues stopping us getting on track.
I MAY be able to bring down my 3 and fill them up for you before I get to bedford, or pop out for you all in the afternoon.
However theres a small chance I'll be training it down Friday night and turning up in a S13 on Sat ;)

10-02-2006, 14:54

As this is a chat thread ..... I'm so happy to have my random pic sig back, its been ages :D :D :D

Pies :D

archenemy.co.uk

10-02-2006, 15:12

Phil, you about this weekend for mass brake bleeding session?

No sorry

archenemy.co.uk

13-02-2006, 11:29

So what did you guys do this weekend then?

Jerry cans ready any time :)

Bayside Blue

13-02-2006, 13:47

My Back pads

Yakkos front and rear pads :)

leelee

13-02-2006, 14:52

and i wasn't invited , the shame :indiff: , i'm well out of the click i tell thee :cry:

Bayside Blue

13-02-2006, 15:07

What?? :wack:

Yakko said you wern't coming! :wack:

---
Asset location... :wack:

Yakko I have your gloves from Phil :) didn't take the jerry can though just to tease you.
Phil passed on lees oil and brake fluid to him yesterday at the burg.

leelee

13-02-2006, 15:19

What?? :wack:

Yakko said you wern't coming! :wack:

hmm.... i smell a plot thickening lol

Do you have all the jerry cans then mart?

Bayside Blue

13-02-2006, 15:28

Nah :D

Thought id make you two go pick them up as I'm not sure what we are doing this weekend :p

Phils house is a short treck from me or Rich. So we can quickly grab the anytime Phil is around :) Risking his hospitality! :wack: I've had more cups of tea round Phils house than I have in my own recently LOL :D

leelee

13-02-2006, 15:38

well, being as phil isn't available this weekend, can i ask you or rich to grab it for moi ,thank you please :)

archenemy.co.uk

13-02-2006, 15:54

that was last weekend, I'm around this weekend coming up.

Rich can pick up the can for you when he gets his own :)

Yakko

13-02-2006, 15:58

and i wasn't invited , the shame :indiff: , i'm well out of the click i tell thee :cry:

Huh?

We all talked and arranget it round Mart's and I've still got the texts we exchanged on Sunday morning where we talked about it....

"Nah, i'm going to get mine in the garage, fancy heading to Stevenage a little earlier?"

I thought that was you saying you weren't coming to mine on Sunday morning... rather working on it in a garage?

:confused:

I'll pick up your Jerry can from Phil some time this week.

:thumbs:

Bayside Blue

13-02-2006, 16:04

that was last weekend, I'm around this weekend coming up.

Rich can pick up the can for you when he gets his own :)

We gonna bleed the brakes then Round Yakkiboxes??

Yakko

13-02-2006, 16:09

We gonna bleed the brakes then Round Yakkiboxes??

Sounds :thumbs: to me.

Yakko

13-02-2006, 16:13

Oh yeah, Lee i've sorted your sig - I'm a bit :confused: about it all though, as I didn't change anything, and your user CP was still pointing at the correct pic. So i changed both URLs, and then changed them back and it worked.

Still, 'tis sorted now.

Bayside Blue

13-02-2006, 16:18

Sounds :thumbs: to me.

Phil? :)

Have you been to yakkiboxes before?

Still, 'tis sorted now.

The refresh button is your friend :nod:

Yakko

13-02-2006, 16:20

Phil? :)

Have you been to yakkiboxes before?

Hmmm, dunno what we're gonna do about parking though... can probably get 2 200s on my drive one outside on the road...

Bayside Blue

13-02-2006, 16:22

Hmmm, dunno what we're gonna do about parking though... can probably get 2 200s on my drive one outside on the road...

Also have that space up the road i use or the pub carpark :)

archenemy.co.uk

13-02-2006, 16:26

Hmmm, dunno what we're gonna do about parking though... can probably get 2 200s on my drive one outside on the road...

Hmm think I'll stop here, I've sooo many jobs to do on it I don't think yaking all day and 4 cars at one place will get the job done :(

Bayside Blue

13-02-2006, 16:32

Hmm think I'll stop here, I've sooo many jobs to do on it I don't think yaking all day and 4 cars at one place will get the job done :(

Drop out :p

You underestimate power in numbers :wack:

2 people on each car gets job done uberly quick :)

leelee

15-02-2006, 02:05

don't worry rich, was only messing :p

whats the plan anyway , saturday or sunday??

i need to do an oil change plus sort my bloody dials out, gonna make all the little backlight bulbs blue methinks :cool:

Bayside Blue

15-02-2006, 10:36

Yakko said he's "easy"...

Yeah I think about all the batti-men in stevenage know that lol

Yakko

15-02-2006, 10:40

Yakko said he's "easy"...

Keep dreaming sunshine. :rolleyes:

What's our list of jobs then?

-Lee's dials.
-Oil change on Lee's car.
-Oil change on Yakko's car.
-Mart's front brakes (unless you did that Monday Mart?)
-Bleed brakes on all 3 cars.

Anything else?

:)

Bayside Blue

15-02-2006, 10:43

Nope didn't get round to them on Monday, lets hop the whether is good both days this weekend. Can't think of anything else :)

Maybe tidy up the wiring behind my dash :) and sort that flickery light bulb, but i can do that myself whilst you two are working on your oil changes :)

Yakko

15-02-2006, 10:50

Fancy fitting my tyres this weekend Leeroy?

:)

leelee

15-02-2006, 14:37

i haven't ordered mine or marts yet, did you order them direct from those peeps on that email?

as for fitting , it would have to be during the week at somepoint :(

i still need to grab some rims off of lennie yet

Yakko

15-02-2006, 14:40

I ordered them direct from maxsport. I'd order quick if I were you, I had a lead time of a week or something when I ordered mine.

:thumbs:

Could we fit 'em the week before Bedford, seeing as neither of us are at work that week.

I've got your jerry can.

leelee

15-02-2006, 14:57

email sent to maxsport :thumbs: , we'll do them the week before , perhaps a trip to cottesmore in the Vit?

Bayside Blue

15-02-2006, 15:42

email sent to maxsport :thumbs: , we'll do them the week before , perhaps a trip to cottesmore in the Vit?

Sounds hardcore... Let me know the date and ill come try out those rear vitara seats :wack: Help hold those rims in place. Mind you if your tight for space which it will be with the tyres on 12 wheels I don't mind following in the 200 to take some of the tyres back. Can probably manage 6 with no rubbish in my boot :)

Give us a date.

Yakko

15-02-2006, 15:55

Hmmm, Vit'll get about 8 wheels/tyres in with the back seats down.

Do you think we can get the old tyres off the rims ourselves beforehand? That'd make transporting them easier.

In fact, that's one of our jobs for this weekend.

Bayside Blue

15-02-2006, 16:05

Getting tires off... is troublesome! :wack:

Sideways Danny

15-02-2006, 16:29

just thought I'd let you know that you're all BUM BOYS

hijack over :D

Bayside Blue

15-02-2006, 16:43

gah, these sideways people :wack: what are they talking about?

leelee

15-02-2006, 16:47

tires off ,easy ;) :) , i'll have to get this arranged :thumbs:

Lennie

16-02-2006, 10:54

Reply to my PM's you bummers.

archenemy.co.uk

16-02-2006, 10:59

How many are in on This Lennie

I'll be interested if its not concrete and you can get the price right down

Billy no cash ATM

Lennie

16-02-2006, 11:00

16-02-2006, 11:26

Isnt Congleton a bit far for alignment?

whats this £50 tracktime?

Send me the vid :p

archenemy.co.uk

16-02-2006, 12:18

Isnt Congleton a bit far for alignment?

whats this £50 tracktime?

Send me the vid :p

are you a Stevenage bum boy :confused:

16-02-2006, 12:45

Nope :p But I reckon I'm closer to Congleton than you :p

archenemy.co.uk

16-02-2006, 12:46

I think 6 people so £50 each and loads of time. on track. Check your new pm with a vid of the track in it :)

Alignment place

CPP MOTOR DEVELOPMENTS
UNIT 2
DANESIDE BUSINESS PARK
RIVERDALE ROAD
CONGLETON
CHESHIRE
CW12 1UN

Hmm I thought this place was supposed to be birmingham way, congleton is nearer manchester, its a 130 mile trip :(

Bit too far really, need to find something closer

Thanks for digging it out Lennie :)

archenemy.co.uk

16-02-2006, 12:49

Nope :p But I reckon I'm closer to Congleton than you :p

:p

I'll dig out the info I had about this Watford Place, My old man (who isn't a dustman) went there once and was impressed

May be we could get a group discount :)

Bayside Blue

16-02-2006, 13:27

Any of you bum boys want to buy my cheap turbo bits? :Plug:

Yakko

17-02-2006, 19:41

Riiiiiiiiiiiight, my slicks are on.

Sorry Lee, couldn't wait for the freebie fitting as I need to run 'em in... and, seeing as I do about 20 miles a week in my car, it might take a while!

:wack:

paradigm shift

17-02-2006, 20:03

I'm doing Haynes depending on noise limits and/or getting hold of some silencing. Dont know if that entitles me to post on the bumboy thread ;) Cheap tyre swaps would be fantastic if anyone can sort them out as I need to refurb these wheels.

Bayside Blue

17-02-2006, 20:11

Lol Renault have just sent me the coolest thing for free through the post...

BOOOOOOOOOOYAKAAAAASHAAAAA!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/blackveg/rainsuit.jpg

How handy would this have been in the rain last week rich :wack:

Cool apart from the fact it says 'renault safety zone' on the back :ghey:

paradigm shift

17-02-2006, 20:13

Lookin good Mart :thumbs: :wack:

What did you have to do to get one of those beauties?

Bayside Blue

17-02-2006, 20:15

Dunno it just came through :wack:

Must be related to days renault :)

Maybe they think I want to buy one of their 'safe' FWD understeery ABS breaking distance increasing cars :ghey:

17-02-2006, 20:56

Riiiiiiiiiiiight, my slicks are on.
How are your initial thoughts then?

archenemy.co.uk

18-02-2006, 08:26

Got my rear brakes through yesterday, sorted the bolt issues for the fronts, just got to find the bolts now :rolleyes:

Didn't get the tyres fitted because out of his 3 fitters 2 didn't turn up for work :mad:

Leaves me a bit stuck this weekend, waiting for stuff :(

Yakko

18-02-2006, 10:53

How are your initial thoughts then?

Um, they look great stacked up in my garage...

I might put 'em on the car this weekend, if it's going to be dry and start putting them through some heat-cycles.

:)

archenemy.co.uk

19-02-2006, 20:18

Yakko

19-02-2006, 20:47

Right
1st Wheres my brake bleeder, I've lent it to somebody and I can't remember who, :rolleyes: who is it :(

2nd things I've done this weekend
Fitted Nismo Rack bushes
Fitted quick shift and Nismo Knob :D
Fitted front R33 GTR Brembos and bled them using a bit of pipe and a jam jar :smash:

Wasn't me, I bought a nice new one from Halfords, was still fresh and unused in it's box this morning though i'm happy to lend it to you, with massive jamjar....

Good job for finally getting round to the quickshift, how you finding it?

:)

archenemy.co.uk

19-02-2006, 21:19

Wasn't me, I bought a nice new one from Halfords, was still fresh and unused in it's box this morning though i'm happy to lend it to you, with massive jamjar....

Good job for finally getting round to the quickshift, how you finding it?

:)

Must be Martin then???

Quickshift, well moving around the drive feels good :wack:

Std Rack bushes are sooo soft compared to hardcore Nismo items, I'm hoping they will be good - bit of a sod to fit :mad:

Bayside Blue

19-02-2006, 21:24

Must be Martin then???

Quickshift, well moving around the drive feels good :wack:

Std Rack bushes are sooo soft compared to hardcore Nismo items, I'm hoping they will be good - bit of a sod to fit :mad:

Fook off, I haven't got them...

You said you would of given them to me the other day if Rich didn't have them :wack: but he doesn't, you just can't remember where they are.

I do however have your angle grinder and hole cutter, What are we doing about these brake discs phil. You where meant to PM me! :smash:

Or did you forget that too :p

archenemy.co.uk

19-02-2006, 22:15

Or did you forget that too :p

Thats what I'm back online for Brens doesn't work Sundays :wack: no time lost

Yakko

19-02-2006, 22:17

Hmmm, i'm a bit perturbed that something's gone missing Phil - that's not the spirit of things!

Mart can proove that mine was brand new today, I can even get the packet out of the bin!

Wonder where it's gone though. :(

archenemy.co.uk

19-02-2006, 22:27

Hey forget about it :D

I have a vague recollection of lending it to somebody, I've turned this place over looking for it, and made a replacement up that works fine, its only a tube with a valve :wack:

All I'm asking is think about it, did I lend it to you :confused:

It could have been, Lennie, Yakko, BB, Lee, my mate Dunk, My old man.... the list goes on, or it could be right here under my nose :wack:

Bayside Blue

19-02-2006, 22:52

It's probably Lee :smash:

HE LIKES STEALING THINGS LIKE MY 10mm SPANNER :wack:

archenemy.co.uk

20-02-2006, 09:48

ALIGNMENT

Right the guy I've been talking to in Watford sounds promising, he said to me the rear tyre top needs to be visible to allow the modules to go on the wheels and sent me to look at this (http://homepage.ntlworld.com/anthoney.bones/gallery/Album1.htm) You can see both front and rear setups there

Do we think we will be able to get that kit on our cars??

If so he can do it for us cost of £92.24 each, as many adjustments as we need, car is on floating platforms too, so no need to drive and check again etc :)

Yakko

20-02-2006, 11:04

Good price!

Even if the top of the rear tyres isn't visible, I think with standard rims, there might be enough room to hook the device over?

I'd definatley be up for that, sounds great.

Any day next week apart from Monday would be best for me.

:thumbs:

Yakko

20-02-2006, 11:05

Oh, and thanks for looking into it Phil - much appreciated. :)

archenemy.co.uk

20-02-2006, 11:12

Even if the top of the rear tyres isn't visible, I think with standard rims, there might be enough room to hook the device over?

Thats what I thought, theres a difference in the kit from to rear, looks like the rear can go up over the tyre even if it is tucked in the arch a little :confused: otherwise they'd be turning away a lot of cars :rolleyes:

Just called them, hes away until thursday, we should be good for a session one day in the week 27th-3rd March

archenemy.co.uk

20-02-2006, 11:17

Haven't heard from Lee in a while

Is he on target, ready etc

Now there are 2 LeeLees :eek: (http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=198578)

Lennie

20-02-2006, 11:30

he said to me the rear tyre top needs to be visible to allow the modules to go on

:ghey:

Yakko

20-02-2006, 11:31

Yup, i'm good for anyday that week other than the Monday.

:thumbs:

This all depends on those camber arms coming in time. :rolleyes:

leelee

20-02-2006, 11:36

I'm still here, I'm on track ,outstanding jobs are :-

*oil change
*brake bleed
*alignment

i have the 25 feb - 5 mar off from work , so i plan to sort the beast out during that time period, i'm deffo up for the alignment :thumbs:

leelee

20-02-2006, 11:40

Mine and Marts RB5's are on their way :cool:

Mart ,you have PM ;)

leelee

20-02-2006, 11:51

anyone source some standard rims ?? i've posted in the wanted section, as lennies tyre man has dissapeared :(

http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=198587

EDIT: hurrah, didnt take long at all :D

archenemy.co.uk

20-02-2006, 12:06

Are you all getting these cut slicks then?

There are 2 sets of R32 GTR rims on Ebay ATM which would go perfectly with these.

16"x8" et30 forged nice light strong rims :)

Much better than putting them on std :ghey: rims

leelee

20-02-2006, 12:06

the wheels i'm getting have 2X p6000's on them

do you want them mart? or lennie want to kill them ?

:)

leelee

20-02-2006, 12:07

too late phil :wack:,

anyway, what do you think to the steering rack bushes?

archenemy.co.uk

20-02-2006, 12:08

From the alignment component thread I'm going to suggest we try for weds 1st march or thurs 2nd to get the alignment done

As time is so short I'll probably take a trip down Watford to check the kit is ok before we all show up.

Whos in for 1st/2nd :)

leelee

20-02-2006, 12:08

I'm in :thumbs:

archenemy.co.uk

20-02-2006, 12:10

anyway, what do you think to the steering rack bushes?

Tricky to fit :wack: much harder rubber than originals

car hasn't been driven yet due to Braking issues :smash:

MARTIN Have you heard back from Bren yet? if not I might give him a call, when can you get those disks to me, he won't send new stuff out until the returns are back in :)

Lennie

20-02-2006, 12:16

the wheels i'm getting have 2X p6000's on them

do you want them mart? or lennie want to kill them ?

:)

I will have them, can swap them for wheels with baldies on if you like. The you can experience the coolness of arriveing at the garage with proper mashed tyres :wack: :)

Yakko

20-02-2006, 12:23

I will have them, can swap them for wheels with baldies on if you like. The you can experience the coolness of arriveing at the garage with proper mashed tyres :wack: :)

HAHA! I got some great looks on Friday when I turned up to have those snow tyres that you played with taken off, and my slicks put on.

:thumbs:

Phil, i'm in for either the 1st or 2nd, need to know soonish though, as the car needs an MOT that week as well.

:)

Bayside Blue

20-02-2006, 17:07

2nd if possible :)

leelee

20-02-2006, 17:15

1st or 2nd is cool for me :)

Bayside Blue

21-02-2006, 08:18

I might have to miss out on that alignment day and do it next month. Though if somebody could give me a lift there to see where it is it would be appreciated :)

I'm going to buy a petrol spout when some money comes in this week :) for us to use at bedford till we can find an SSRE bodge fix (Granny tap adapters) for our existing diesel nozzles.

Thinking of other stuff...

Maybe get some coloured zip-tie for our big petrol cans :) Anti-Tamper device :wack: yeah yeah you may be able to cut it off but can you replace a pink zip-tie :ghey: I'll get some orange ones i think.

I'm also going to buy a length of chain and a pad lock to complement phils to chain our load of stuff together.

Yakko

21-02-2006, 09:43

I might have to miss out on that alignment day and do it next month. Though if somebody could give me a lift there to see where it is it would be appreciated :)

No problemo.

:thumbs:

Bayside Blue

21-02-2006, 09:48

No problemo.

:thumbs:

Lol Wingman! :wack:

leelee

21-02-2006, 11:29

nobodys noticed what day it is today have they ?

Bayside Blue

21-02-2006, 11:33

Lol how old are you now? 2?? :D

archenemy.co.uk

21-02-2006, 11:57

I might have to miss out on that alignment day and do it next month.

I don' think thats a good idea Martin, you alignment is all over the place :(

Yakko

21-02-2006, 11:58

nobodys noticed what day it is today have they ?

Happy Birthday Lee - What's the deal with Leelee21? You share names AND birthdays?

Wierd.

Bayside Blue

21-02-2006, 12:02

I don' think thats a good idea Martin, you alignment is all over the place :(

Well it's a choice between that or run out of petrol half way round bedford :wack:

I'll see how it is once I am paid :)

Yakko

21-02-2006, 12:04

Well it's a choice between that or run out of petrol half way round bedford :wack:

I'm guessing you'll miss out on any discount that Phil arranges though. :(

Bayside Blue

21-02-2006, 12:06

I'll see how it goes & how big the discount is.

I'll be running on fumes though lol. :D don't worry I usually scrape up enough money together from somewhere each month :wack:

Got to start paying insurance again in march £200 only dropped by 20 a month but no large deposit

archenemy.co.uk

21-02-2006, 13:02

Re Discount, the guy usually charges per adjustment (£20), to do your cars that would be 4, mine 5, hes capping the adjustment fee at 3. So you're getting one free :)

Martin if you're thinking about money for me forget about it for now and sort the alignment, can't have you spinning off :(

Bayside Blue

21-02-2006, 13:21

In BlandogooBasicEnglish :wack: what cost ???

Not money for you Phil :) I should only owe you a little after our stuff comes back from Bren. :) So thats no problem.

£60?? 3x20 or have i got the wrong end of the stick?

Yakko

21-02-2006, 13:23

What settings are we using? Nissan specs?

Bayside Blue

21-02-2006, 13:27

Use SM's ones :) If we can do that? Will look them up again. Remember seeing them on another thread.

Regarding my above question. What happened to the £92.24 price 2 pages back?

leelee

21-02-2006, 13:31

mart, i can leelee finance your alignment :thumbs:

fcuk knows who leelee21 is , i aint impressed

i'm 23 btw :( , birthdays are pants after 18 :nod:

Bayside Blue

21-02-2006, 13:40

We'll see how it goes. Will probably need it though. :(

I can give you the 250 for the slicks at the weekend.

Pay for the alignment next payday? I hate doing this it's uber gay. :ghey:

Got some SAFCs to install after bedford probs to try get a bit back.

SM's Settings... (Within Nissan specs)

Front
Camber -1.33
Toe in 0.02

Rear
Camber -1.1
Toe in 0.02

archenemy.co.uk

21-02-2006, 14:37

Re Alignment, works like this

Setup fee £26
Each adjustment £17.50
All plus vat
So for 3 adjustments its £79.50 or £92.24 inc VAT, may get discount for cash, don't know

So basicaly I'll save £40 over usual rates you guys will save £20

Re Adjustable arms, I'm just about to ring Bren Re some other stuff.

Do you want all your suspensions arms to come to me here so I can be in and sign for them, one big parcel? :)

Bayside Blue

21-02-2006, 14:40

Do it :) :thumbs: I can always run errands from your house Phil :) to get it to Rich and Lee from there.

archenemy.co.uk

21-02-2006, 14:48

Just spoken to Emma @ Apex

All is good for the brake parts I'm returning these disks today Martin

Are you sure you want your invoice to go with the parcel? I can take a copy of it and return the original to you for your records :)

archenemy.co.uk

21-02-2006, 14:54

BTW went to get my 225s stretched over my GTR Rims this morning :smitten: looking very nice, cleaned all the brake dust off the rims and will wax them before putting back on :nod:

Looks to be a useful amount of extra room for the coilovers :)

Bayside Blue

21-02-2006, 14:55

Copy if possible. But no biggy was just pads brake fluid and discs on it IIRC. I'm not selling it so im not to bothered about keeping all the reciepts, Do for big things though :)

Just spoken to Emma @ Apex

All is good for the brake parts I'm returning these disks today Martin

Are you sure you want your invoice to go with the parcel? I can take a copy of it and return the original to you for your records :)

Also have you written them a note explaining things just so they have it in hard copy! :) I know they have a lot of stuff to do and we don't wnat this forgotten.

leelee

21-02-2006, 16:29

slicks turned up today :thumbs:

Bayside Blue

21-02-2006, 16:34

I'm getting my alignment done on Leelee finance. :D
I'm with Shelly this weekend but have no car jobs to do.

Lee & Rich you only have oil changes right?

I'll come by if you two are together to pick up my slicks and get them fitted to my alloys. I'll probably have to get dad to take me. :)

leelee

21-02-2006, 16:45

Collect the slicks on saturday afternoon/evening please mart :) I'm out all day friday ravin in london

and the car is at jez's sunday :D :cool:

Bayside Blue

21-02-2006, 16:48

cool :thumbs:

archenemy.co.uk

21-02-2006, 18:42

Do you want all your suspensions arms to come to me here so I can be in and sign for them, one big parcel? :)

Martin says YES

Looks like they will be with Bren Tomorrow :)

Rich, Lee, what do you say?

leelee

21-02-2006, 19:16

i aint got no suspension arms :no:

you coilover freaks :ghey:

Bayside Blue

21-02-2006, 19:36

i aint got no suspension arms :no:

you coilover freaks :ghey:

HAHAHAHAHA

Phil you're turning us all senile :wack:

Yakko

22-02-2006, 00:20

Martin says YES

Looks like they will be with Bren Tomorrow :)

Rich, Lee, what do you say?

That sounds good to me Phil - let me know when they arrive and i'll come and get 'em.

Cheers!

What day are we going for the allignment? The 2nd?

Bayside Blue

22-02-2006, 08:33

That sounds good to me Phil - let me know when they arrive and i'll come and get 'em.

Cheers!

What day are we going for the allignment? The 2nd?

2nd please! If possible Phil. :) Still Lee's paying for me so what suits him I suppose lol.

I can take the first off if it's really needed.

archenemy.co.uk

22-02-2006, 08:44

Ok I'll speak to this bloke on Thursday about the set up and the 2nd :)

archenemy.co.uk

22-02-2006, 09:12

Ok to sumarise BEFORE I RING APEX TO SORT THE DELIVERY

I'm getting: Rear Camber, front castor
Martin: Rear Camber
Rich: Rear camber

Is that right

Rich what is your surname please :)

Edit to correct parts

Bayside Blue

22-02-2006, 09:16

haven't we all got rear camber arms to set up? If they ever get here :wack:

archenemy.co.uk

22-02-2006, 09:19

haven't we all got rear camber arms to set up? If they ever get here :wack:

See above edit and answer the question :smash:

Bayside Blue

22-02-2006, 09:22

All bren owes me at the mo is rear camber arms and the front braided hoses you asked for the other day :)

So the set up will include those. As well as the adustment he can do with the standard gear on the car :)

Yakko

22-02-2006, 09:23

I'm getting rear camber arms only.

:thumbs:

Cheers Phil.

11 days left...

archenemy.co.uk

22-02-2006, 09:25

I'm getting rear camber arms only.

:thumbs:

Cheers Phil.

11 days left...

And your surname :smash:

archenemy.co.uk

22-02-2006, 09:26

So the set up will include those. As well as the adustment he can do with the standard gear on the car :)

Yes, front and rear, toe and camber

Bayside Blue

22-02-2006, 09:26

Friday 3rd of march... Scattered Showers over bedford... Lets hope that gets them out of the way and leaves the following day clear. :)

archenemy.co.uk

22-02-2006, 09:31

Friday 3rd of march... Scattered Showers over bedford... Lets hope that gets them out of the way and leaves the following day clear. :)

I want it to rain a bit too, then your fancy slicks will be useless Muhahahahahaa

Serious question what will you do if it is damp / raining :(

Did some testing yesterday, should be able to get 12 rims in the back of the mondeo :) Dads coming up and he'll be driving it :)

Bayside Blue

22-02-2006, 09:33

Use normal road tyres :)

Yakko

22-02-2006, 09:45

Bayside Blue

22-02-2006, 09:56

Do you mind we we put the slicks in the Mondeo then, or maybe 2 each? Do we need to put an inventory of tools together, so that we don't double up needlessly?

I say bring everything. That will useful. We don't want to be hanging about for tools. if we need them on two or more different cars at once. :)

archenemy.co.uk

22-02-2006, 10:09

If it's raining, we'll run the F1s, much less tyre wear in the wet I think.

:)

Do you mind we we put the slicks in the Mondeo then, or maybe 2 each? Do we need to put an inventory of tools together, so that we don't double up needlessly?

:thumbs: to your old man.

Tools yes we'll put together a list, here's a start

what you should each bring yourselves:
Spare oil, coolant, Jerry can, helmet, drivers licence, good footwear, food water, cameras

What we need between us:
Trolley jack (Phil) could do with another
Axle stands (I have 2) could do with some more
Wheel nut spider/wrench (I have 1) could do with more
bits of shaped wood for sills (I have 2)
Blocks of wood for chocking wheels (I have plenty)
Tape for headlights (I have selection)
Foot pump x 2 (I have 1)
Accurate tyre gauge (Phil)
Chain and padlock for securing things (Phil) - padlock has numerous keys ;)
Couple of sets of sockets (Martin & Phil?)
Selection of extra tools, knife, screwdrivers, allen keys, pliers, hose clips etc (I have plenty, bring what you like)

Anything else?

I'll have to check Anna doesn't need the modeo for herself that day :( If she does, may be we can use Dads BMW tourer :)

archenemy.co.uk

22-02-2006, 10:12

Just spoken to Emma @ Apex

The returned disks have arrived :) and the majority of the brake order is coming back out to me, along with the camber arms etc for you all, which have also arrived :D

Only problems my rear pads and Martins front Braided hoses are not in stock but should arrive soon :)

Yakko

22-02-2006, 10:16

What we need between us:
Trolley jack (Phil) could do with another
Axle stands (I have 2) could do with some more
Wheel nut spider/wrench (I have 1) could do with more
bits of shaped wood for sills (I have 2)
Blocks of wood for chocking wheels (I have plenty)
Tape for headlights (I have selection)
Foot pump x 2 (I have 1)
Accurate tyre gauge (Phil)

I've got all of that - i'll stick it all in a box and bring it along. :thumbs:

Bayside Blue

22-02-2006, 10:19

I have a compressor that will run off the car :) Bit quicker than a foot pump :)

No problem on the braided hoses. As i've just changed and bled my fluid i don't want to do it again lol!

leelee

22-02-2006, 11:43

i too have a 12v compressor :thumbs:

i shall be taking that entire list with me too :thumbs: , i don't want to wait for bits , i want to spend as much time on the track as possible :thumbs:

archenemy.co.uk

22-02-2006, 12:47

Bayside Blue

22-02-2006, 13:09

If Lee doesn't mind paying the extra £25~ :) sure.

Might as well get it set up as near perfect as possible. :thumbs:

Absolutely no trouble with ride heights here :thumbs:

By that i assume your talking about the problem with the top of the tyre having to be visible??

Lee- I'll probably, but not for sure be able to give you a bit of cash through the month to square off this extra price as I fit a few SAFCs to people cars :)

Getting rather excited now, Looking forward to having a well set up car :D

Yakko

22-02-2006, 13:26

Alignment update

While digging about for Corner weight info I found this lot

Racing developments (http://www.racingdevelopments.com/laseralignment/index.htm)

Gave them a call, seems like they know everything there is to know about alignment, they will knock 20% off the price for a group of us having the silver package thats a total of £117.50

Its in MK what do you think

Absolutely no trouble with ride heights here :thumbs:

Interested Phil....

But we're not getting corner weighted for that price? (Silver package) So i'm not sure what we're getting for the extra £25 quid ir so over the other place?

I'm easy for either place though.

leelee

22-02-2006, 13:32

as a non coilovered motor i'm not fussed, but you guys arent getting anything more with the place are you?

I'd rather the cheaper place personally :)

Yakko

22-02-2006, 13:36

I'd rather the cheaper place personally :)

Cheaper IS better for me this month.

:(

J..

22-02-2006, 13:42

Afternoon all!

Now I know I'm not officially one of the 'Stevenage' lads, but I'm from Cambridge which is close enough :wack:

When are you planning on getting your alignement set up? I'm just trying to figure out some plans to ensure I'm all sorted before Brand Hatch.

Cheers

:thumbs:

Bayside Blue

22-02-2006, 14:01

as a non coilovered motor i'm not fussed, but you guys arent getting anything more with the place are you?

I'd rather the cheaper place personally :)

Lees call for me. Watford then £92~

J... We're going on the 2nd of march but you'll have to speak with phil as he is arranging it.

archenemy.co.uk

22-02-2006, 14:52

Interested Phil....

But we're not getting corner weighted for that price? (Silver package) So i'm not sure what we're getting for the extra £25 quid ir so over the other place?

I'm easy for either place though.

Corner weighting is the gold package would cost £235 each takes 6 hrs/car

Silver inc all we need to do 2-3hrs/car £117.50

The difference to the Watford place??? well these guys prepare race cars, Watford does road car alignment, but both should be capable. Watford place may have issues with ride height and fitment of kit, but I can find out

I asked racing develpoments about corner weighting, I said if we come with our ride height set and measured accurately on each coilover what do we have to gain with corner weighting? he said, not too much really, plus I read something today that they weight you car differently according to your damper settings and roll bar stiffness, so being as we are all experimenting and changing this to a certain degree I thought it wasn't worth it :)

archenemy.co.uk

22-02-2006, 14:55

Lees call for me. Watford then £92~

J... We're going on the 2nd of march but you'll have to speak with phil as he is arranging it.

I'm fine with Watford if they can get the gear on the wheels, thats the question.

You're welcome to come along Jamie :)

Racing developments wanted to split us in to 2 days as it takes them 2+ hours per car, watford seem a little quicker as their system the car floats on platforms - you don't have to go out drive it around come back in etc like you would at RD :)

leelee

22-02-2006, 14:58

watford gets my vote, however cometh the day i get coilovers i think i'd pay for the race guys at MK :nod:

Bayside Blue

22-02-2006, 14:59

Prays contraption gets over wheels lol!

archenemy.co.uk

22-02-2006, 15:05

Ok heres the plan then

I'll speak to Tony Bones tomorrow at Watford, if hes available I'll pop down and see if he can get the kit on my car

If he can you lot should be fine and we'll go with him

If not there's another place in Watford too, but I get the feeling they all run this Hunter kit which is the problem. So if its not possible we'll have to all go to MK suck it up and pay the extra. :)

Lee you'd be free to go to Watford, actually that could work for you as your ride will be higher and you have no front camber to adjust :)

Bayside Blue

22-02-2006, 15:13

Lee you'd be free to go to Watford, actually that could work for you as your ride will be higher and you have no front camber to adjust :)

I need Lee to pay for mine :smash: :wack:

leelee

22-02-2006, 15:40

if the general consenus is MK then i'm cool :)

Bayside Blue

22-02-2006, 15:41

if the general consenus is MK then i'm cool :)

Do MK if possible. Lee i can give you the £25 extra on sat.

leelee

22-02-2006, 16:40

:thumbs: MK is cool with me :)

archenemy.co.uk

22-02-2006, 18:10

are you lot not reading my posts (#230) :wack:

so after thinking Watford I've found another place in Hemel, recommended by the watford fella uses a different machine and could possibily be cheaper still. Will phone them tomorrow :)

Bayside Blue

22-02-2006, 18:12

Lol. I'll just do whatever :wack: :smash:
No more replying to alignment stuff :wack:

archenemy.co.uk

22-02-2006, 18:16

Just popped out, changed the front rims to the GTRs with the stretched 225s and they clear :D easily WOOT

Changed my hotpipe in the wing for my new one and pushed the liner back into shape

NO MORE RUBBING ON LOCK

WOOT WOOT :D

Bayside Blue

22-02-2006, 18:27

what do you want, a medal? ;) :D :p

archenemy.co.uk

22-02-2006, 18:59

No :p just happy things are going well :)

J..

22-02-2006, 20:04

You're welcome to come along Jamie :)

Cheers for the invite. The 2nd is a bad day for me so I won't be able to come along.

Let us know what you think of the place anyhow, because I'm on the lookout for a decent place to set my car up.

Cheers

See you Brands

:)

archenemy.co.uk

23-02-2006, 10:55

I have a heavy parcel and a strut brace :confused:

Who ordered a strut brace :confused:

opening now.........

Bayside Blue

23-02-2006, 11:05

I have a heavy parcel and a strut brace :confused:

Who ordered a strut brace :confused:

opening now.........

I dunno but Sssssshhh ill have it!

archenemy.co.uk

23-02-2006, 11:35

Bayside Blue

23-02-2006, 11:37

Ok checked it all over

All suspension bits are here

Lennie: R camber, R toe, R traction, F track, R brace
Me: R camber, F track
Rich: R Camber
Martin: R Camber

Everybody gets a mug and some stickers, a pen etc :)

Pick up when you're ready, rich is coming this PM, Lennie I can deliver yours, Martin is Rich taking your stuff?

I have my front pads and rear hoses :)

Ill come round this evening. 6:30 ish ok? Mug - Sweet, we can also use the stickers on our jerry cans :D Mine has an SSQV sticker on it at the moment :wack: lol

Did bren say when the front braided hose will come though? did he include it on the reciept??

archenemy.co.uk

23-02-2006, 11:41

Ill come round this evening. 6:30 ish ok? Mug - Sweet, we can also use the stickers on our jerry cans :D Mine has an SSQV sticker on it at the moment :wack: lol

Did bren say when the front braided hose will come though? did he include it on the reciept??

I'm off to Lennies for 7pm so be sharp :smash:

There is no reciept for the returns or new brake stuff, I guess that will come out with the rest of the order - rear pads for me and front hoses for you :)

Bayside Blue

23-02-2006, 11:43

I'm off to Lennies for 7pm so be sharp :smash:

There is no reciept for the returns or new brake stuff, I guess that will come out with the rest of the order - rear pads for me and front hoses for you :)

Ok I'll be there before 6:30 phil ASAP after i get home from work. probably nearer 6 :)

Lennie

23-02-2006, 11:54

I forgot about the extra bits coming to philbo's. Cheers phil. The bits are all sorted now, see you later.

Yakko

23-02-2006, 14:27

I've got my camber arms, thanks Phil.

Ooooh sparkly blue!

archenemy.co.uk

23-02-2006, 14:49

ALIGNMENT UPDATE

Just been to Discount tyres in Hemel, London Road HP3 9AZ, as recommended by Tony Bones :thumbs: Spoke to Mark there this morning and then popped over :)

They have a number of different setups they can use on your car, to get over the "too low" problems :cool: He tried some on mine and its all good :) It should be even easier on std rims :)

So I booked 4 of us in for Wednesday 1st and Thurs 2nd March, Price is the best yet £87.54 inc Vat

I told him we'd arrive with coilovers set at the desired height, all adjustable arms fitted and with the settings you want for your suspension. I told him about the spec of the cars, thats fine. He requested that we arrive for opening time 8.30am. Each car should take 1-1.5 hours.

I suggest you take a look at your toe nuts which are probably seized and try to free them off or at least WD40 them

I'm easy on dates, I know a couple have said 2nd so I'll go on the 1st.

So sign up, who have we got, Me, Yakko, Bayside, Lee, J...., Lennie. I'm sure we can add extra people to the 4 if needs be.

So as you know basically you're getting one adjustment of the 4 free :) saving £19.38 :thumbs:

Mono Phil Weds 1st 8.30-9.30/10