View Full Version : **** copper - stick right up his ****in arse
right only per the title as not all police are like this, had a couple of coppers stop me in the past that were more than helpful and gave me the benefit of the doubt as well as manners....
WELL NOT THIS ****ER :mad:
on my way back from andys with girlfriend, we are coming to the edge of lytham where it turns from a 30mph to a 50mph towards Warton, i see said copper comin towrds me and i have a slow-ass in front of me, i get past the 50mph sign, copper goes past and it turns into a quick straight of 3 lanes for overtaking, i have driven this road for years, so i overtake as copper goes past, and go on up to about 60 before dropping back doown, copper nowhere to be seen in rear view mirror....
turns back into 2 lanes and then i suddenly see some rather bright headlights shooting up behind a pair of cars 50m back from me, i know its him, it just has to be, i saw him looking at my car as he went past me previously, so obviously in the chance of him turning around i had stuck to 50mph...
right up my ****in ass the ******* comes:mad: and trails me for about 1 mile before flashing the blues at me in warton, i pull over and wait for him to come to my car as some gits wait for you to jump ot before shouting "GET BACK IN THE CAR! SHOW ME YOUR HANDS, I WILL BLOW YOU AWAY ETC ETC...."..well they have done before:rolleyes:
well i wait for him to call me out and he does, so he then lays into me with and i quote, "WHY ON EARTH DID YOU OVERTAKE ALL THOSE CARS ON THE WRONG SIDE OF THE ROAD? THATS ERRATIC, WHATS WRNG WITH YOU?"
i instantly replied, "i didnt, only the one car and when it turns into a 3 lane system did i do even that.." before i can finish my sentence he threatens me with, "DONT LIE TO ME I SAW YOU, IF YOU WANNA LIE ABOUT IT WE CAN GO TO COURT!"
i cant believe it, im baffled, i repeat the same thing again, he asks me if i have had a drink, i say yes, a can at andys (when working on hs car) and he gets me in his car, then tries to lecture me again before writing on his pad as im saying what actually happened in a polite and calm manner but the guy is adament, hes pissed about something....
anyway, breathalyser etc, blah blah you will get arrested if over..
doesnt say anything after the breathalyser obviously comes up negative, until the end when i have to sign the producer when he comes out with, "I EARN 25,000 POUNDS A YEAR AND ITS NOT WORTH ME LYING ABOUT DANGEROUS DRIVING FOR THE SAKE OF MY JOB" - i barely have words to my mouth, the guy is like "trippin" and i have no idea why, how on earth he can judge exactly where i have overtaken someone and also how many cars in his rear view mirror as he rounds a bend is beyond me...
and i did only overtake the one car, but he wasnt backing down, so now i have a producer, but b4 i left his car i made sure it had his name on it and number, if anything in that car i was fecking quiet, i never raised my voice and i never called him a liar or a GIT at any rate, all he was concerned with was asking me my age and address and car make and blah blah blah....
i will make a complaint baout this guy, its people like him who have nothing better to do and give the police a bad name, FFS i saw him coming towards me i aint gonna be driving like a ***** just to get some blue lights chasing me....
i do wonder if theres even 50% of the police force nowadays that are genuine blokes concerned with their job and not out to catch a sporty looking car with a younger guy in it...
any thoughts or suggestions? i am gently stewing here:mad:
if it is any consilation mate, my old man used to work for the bill and he always has said that there are more crooks within the police than outside the police!! One example was doing over 150 in the cheif superintendats (privatly owned) sierra cosworth down the a1 on a sunday afternoon!!
adam
Its a good thing you managed to stay so calm though...well done. Could have been worse for you if you hadn't...cos it'll be his word against yours and guess who'll win??
PhilMorrison
14-08-2002, 21:56
:mad: We've all come up against Pr!cks like that m8:rolleyes: it seems that you caught 1 havein a bad day an all :( U do need to make a complaint, as does any other young driver who gets this treatment, because u know u don't get spoken to like that if 35 plus :rolleyes: (or is that me being nieve/predudice?)
anyway I did'nt think coppers on they're own were able to prosecute?
Wrong forum, Mr Silverback! :D
Moved to non200
I had a similar incident several months ago when my brother in law (who's a solicitor) was in the car with me. We made a formal complaint but after it was 'investigated ' the reply I got back was that there was insufficient evdence to pursue the matter further :mad: :mad: :mad: Just hope the little sh!t got a few sleepless nights, but I doubt it.
I feel for you m8 but the only way to avoid this sort of crap is to drive around in a Micra and never overtake.
Lets face it, the whole men in uniform thing is wearing off now.. poor policeman,.... prob not had any for years...
Seriously, what can he prove 100% against you?
Matt, feel for you mate. They are just unreal sometimes.
You can consolidate yourself in the fact that he will be a sad little w*****r with no friends, small p***s, and will one day (hopefully soon) aim his crap at someone else and they will bounce his head of the pavement until he crys.;)
Mmmm I had a similar experience once although not in the 200.
I had a crappy old XR2 and got stopped leaving a friends house.
Copper pulls me over for no reason, then gets out and proceeds to walk around my car looking at all the tyres (no bloody good cause they all had tonnes of grip on em).
He then notices that my tax disc has 2 days left to run. Points this out to me(yes I know:rolleyes: )
Then he says "More expense eh???"
So I say "Yeah" (humour the git):D
He then replies "Got a job have we sir?" :eek: :eek: :eek:
:mad: What a W@nker. And I was standing there in an expensive Yamaha jacket. What a git. I should have told him "yeah, and it pays better than yours":D
The pigs certainly don't need these sort of cretins in the force if they are going to improve the publics perception of them.
Originally posted by GrahamB
The pigs certainly don't need these sort of cretins in the force if they are going to improve the publics perception of them.
Two things. Firstly I don't think the bacon give a flying fcuk what we think of them. Lets face it, the ones who join nowadays are just thugs who want a license to be stroppy.
Secondly, in my line of work I meet people from all walks of life, from 18 yr old typists to 50+ year old mega rich captains of industry, and they're views on plod are much the same as ours. SO I reckon it's probably too late for them to improve their image. They've already lost the majority of public support and confidence.
I was following some twat out of Banbury on the B4100 yesterday morning.
First he overtook a car going through a series of bends, then he tried to overtake a van by cutting through a ghost island even though there was a car coming the other way.
Then he tried to overtake the van again, but this time he waited until he'd got to a blind corner.
He did manage to over take the van on the 3/4 mile long straight which is right after the bend. I was doing 60 & so was the van, but he still over took :eek:
BTW - it was a cop in a white 306, Reg Y *** TOV. No blue light, no real urgency ( after he took the van he didn't pull away from me too quickly ).
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Originally posted by Lewis
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W@nker!!
Originally posted by fattyluvshotdogs
:mad: We've all come up against Pr!cks like that m8:rolleyes: it seems that you caught 1 havein a bad day an all :(
Yup, I got stopped by a copper in his DOG VAN!!
He shouts "What do you think you are doing? you pulled out and slid your car sideways round the roundabout"!!! :eek: :eek: :eek:
My bright yellow Corrado G60, stuck to the road like nothing I've ever driven that thing..
I was speechless.. but stayed calm and let him get on with it..
Scarey **** what they sometimes suggest you have done!! :( :eek:
I got followed all the way from Norfolk police HQ into town last week by an inspector in an unmarked ford.
I could tell it was an inspector because at 70mph I could actually easily make out the crown on his shoulders in my mirrors. If there was a number there I could have read that too.
He was RIGHT up my tail the whole way because I was in a shiney red car and had eased up from all of 75mph (shocking behaviour, I know!) when I saw him coming up the sliproad and noticed he was old bill.
He was so focused on me that he pulled in and out of lanes at exactly the same time as I did, even to the extent of cutting the noses of other motors as he moved back into lane 1.
The week before I got cut up horribly at a roundabout by a copper and twice in the last two months I've seen coppers driving on parking lights.
Standards of 'normal' police (non-traffic boys) driving are frankly awful these days.
Mike
That just sucks mate, reminds me of my incident last year and what unco-operative piece of 5hits they really are. To this day my attitude towards them hasn't changed. What flips me out is if you or i have a bad day we have to deal with it, they have a bad day and they have the opportunity to take it out on just about anyone they want to.
I get buzzed by an unmarked Scooby along the M27 quite often, i overtake at around 75mph, the scooby then pulls out and sits on my bumper about 3 feet away (Safety only applies to us mere mortals obvoiusly:rolleyes: ). Since buying a digi cam, i have built up a rather interesting portfolio of shots showing various police officers and their proximity to my car at motorway speeds. Something that may come in usefull at some stage.
Daniel san
15-08-2002, 13:38
On the way back from Abbey yesterday, I popped into the town to get a drink. Saw a police van had stopped a Nova and was chatting to the driver, so I drove past and popped/banged the zorst a few times on the way into the town :D. On the way out I saw they'd finished and were just pulling away, so I popped them again, only for them to end up follwing me all the way to the M25, when the van pulls up beside me in the queue and the driver shouts out the window
YOUR EXHAUST SOUNDS BLOODY BRILLIANT!
I was god smacked to say the least. Said cheers mate and he drove off grinning from ear to ear. :D Very funny! So there are a select few decent coppers out there after all!
AshT_200
15-08-2002, 13:43
I've seen some in Maldon High Street who liked the sound of my BOV.
Originally posted by AshT_200
I've seen some in Maldon High Street who liked the sound of my BOV.
HAHAHA, Id give them BOV....
PAARRRRPPPPPPPP :D :D
Sniff that copper!!!
I've had some really nice 'turn-ins' with traffic police. Let's face it, they are interesting in motors in the first place and spend all day driving, thus knowing damn well the practicalities of driving and that a fully loaded white van at 70 in the wet is a lot less safe than a 200 at 100 in the dry - regardless of the letter of the law.
Even when I got my speeding ticket, the copper was really nice and very much just doing his job. After all, they really don't like scraping up corpses very much.
On a couple of occasions I've had a 'little sprint' along roads with a police car with us amicabily flashing each other goodbye and I really connot complain too much about the traffic dept.
<rant>
It's the little hitlers in the Fiestas who have the chips on their shoulder and no concept of road safety who annoy me.
Fine. Put a speed camera outside EVERY school in the country. Nick anyone driving like a loon in corwded city centres on Saturday at 11pm when 90% of pedestrians are drunk, but don't put a camera on the only safe overtaking spot and straight for 10 miles and don't pull me for a breath test because I have a nice looking car and am obeying a 30mph limit because 'you were obeying the limit when I was following you, and that was very suspicious'.
</rant>
Mike
I have had a few runins with police.
Firstly I got pulled over (whilst driving a clean citrogen BX!!!!) and he interviewed me and my mates, searched the car, checked the lights, etc. measured the tyre tread and it happened to be 1-2mm under the legal limit, he then went on to describe , that if I was caught driving the car again with the same tyres I could could end up in a cell for the night.. blah blah blah. breath test, the usual s**t. eventually he gave me a producer and that was the end. can anyone smell bulls**t? or is it just me...:mad: :mad:
And secondly, I was at a round a bout, had my window down (it was icy the night before, so grit was on the road) the cop wheel spun and sent aload of grit flying at my face, got hit by a couple, i suppose i was lucky really that none hit my eyes. :eek:
But I have been pulled over and treated with respect aswell. Just depends whether they are in a good mood or not suppose??
For what it's worth: from a legal point of view, a basic rule in traffc law is that all drivers are obliged to maintain such a speed and distance that they can halt their vehicle at any time to avoid collision. That's why with rear-end collisions, the on coming car is ALWAYS guilty.
So if you've got a copper on your tail, and you 'need' ;) ;) to brake hard 'suddenly' ;) ;) , the copper will have to pay for all damages to your car, which will not look good on his record.
Of course, you have to consider if all the hassle is really worth it, or that you just accept police-harrasment as a fact-of-life:mad: :mad:
Cheers!
I'm not sure, but I heard more recently was that 'it depended'. ie if you brake for no reason whatsoever or for a pigeon and a car hits you then it's not always going to be the person behind's fault.
While overseas I was travelling home one night listening to the football on the radio (England Vs. Argentina in the World cup actually). In a country where NOBODY stops at a amber light, the lights changed in front of me to amber.
I braked to stop.
The car behind me that was coming up fast anyhow floored it and piled into the back of my stationary car at 90mph.
Police initially tried to give me 75% responsibility because I stopped on an amber! After talking some sence into them, they eventually took it down to the usual 25%.
Couldn't avoid that 25% because I was an ex-pat and I didn't belong in the country. If I had not been in the country then the accident would not have happened, therefor it was 25% my fault! :)
Mike
This wasn't in the far east (i.e. Saudi), by any chance was it?
The Police are, in my experience, 20% tw@ts and 80% UTTER tw@ts :mad:
I have precisely zero respect for any of those c*ck sucking nazis, and I last got pulled for driving too SLOWLY :confused: over giant fooking speed mountains, and flicking the bird to the pig behind me who almost rear ended me at the first speed hump!
I tried to explain that they can cause damage to lowered cars... bl**dy idiotic police w@nkers :rolleyes:
Can someone genetically engineer a virus that kills only pigs???
Something like Swine Fever???!!!!! :D :D
Martin T
19-08-2002, 13:22
Originally posted by JB
Two things. Firstly I don't think the bacon give a flying fcuk what we think of them. Lets face it, the ones who join nowadays are just thugs who want a license to be stroppy.
Secondly, in my line of work I meet people from all walks of life, from 18 yr old typists to 50+ year old mega rich captains of industry, and they're views on plod are much the same as ours. SO I reckon it's probably too late for them to improve their image. They've already lost the majority of public support and confidence.
Firstly, I have to say that not all plod are w@nkers. I rekon its more like 50%. My little brother has a friend thats joining the specials on friday and he's a good man.
When I was 17/18, I delivered Pizzas for a living, and did about 50-60,000 miles per year, all in colchester. I used to get pulled over around once every couple of weeks for driving "too fast". Every single time I got let off. I was just polite and apologetic and accepted that, pointing out the degree by which I was braking the limit, and the time that it was (i.e. no other cars or people around) I had been clocked doing 42 in a 30, going sideways around a roundabout, hammering it across a level crossing. Sometimes they were unmarked, sometimes they were well hidden. They were all reasnoble. Then I went through an AMBER light when it had around a second before it was going to go red. Got pulled over. disagreed with the policeman. Got a ticket and a fine. I get the impression that he may have cleared up a post accident mess that day, the way he was going on about it. However, when I bought an XR2 (yes, I know) I was getting pulled all the time for no aparrent reason, and they were all w@nkers too me even though I wasn't even braking any laws. Got at least 1-2 producers per week. At one point, they were stopping random people, and I knew they would stop me. I wound down my window and said "gonna give me one of these", holding a producer I had got about 5 mins ago. He just let me through. I suppoose the point is, depends on what car you drive.
Mr_Sukebe
19-08-2002, 14:40
Matt_j>
Maybe the guy was just having a "bad day". I'm sure we all regularly meet people having bad days, us included. Just picture what a crappy job most cops have. They have no respect from the public anymore (bit of a snowball effect really), they aren't that well paid, and probably take plenty of abuse and stress on the job. Hardly surprising that at times they don't feel so good.
Guess I've just been lucky, pulled over 4 times by the cops, never given anything more than a producer, e.g:
1. Overtaking a couple of cars on an A road in an old Gti. Lets just say I was somewhat "way" over the speed limit by the time I came to pull in again. Quite simply, hadn't expected the cars I was passing to also accelerate so much, guess they must have been doing 90 ish. Was given a bit of a talking to.
2. Had a quick race against a Sierra, again in the GTi. Turned out to be an off duty copper, bugger. Still, the guy was polite, probably just a bit pissed about getting overtaken.
3. Definitely the most embarrasing. Just cruising back home on the M18 where I lived at the time, keeping to the speed limits.
At the M18/180 junction there is a raised roundabout. I go to the juntion point (where there's a set of traffic lights), only to find myself behind a rozzer in a senator. On hitting green this senator really goes for it, obviously trying to show off to his "suspects" in the rear.
Like a pratt (well I was 21 at the time), I think "balls" to this and blast after him in the Gt Twin cam I'm driving at the time. As we leave the roundabout I'm actually overtaking him (still haven't hit the speed limit yet). Just as I get alongside him, sure enough, lights come on.
Thinking about it now, what a pratt I was...
>This wasn't in the far east (i.e. Saudi), by any chance was it?
No, it was the Middle East (Saudi) :D
Al-Khobar...that sunny little s*** hole.
Never been pulled in the far east, although I've thrown water at policemen in Thailand!
Originally posted by Tim Simpson
measured the tyre tread and it happened to be 1-2mm under the legal limit
lol isn't the legal limit 1.2/4/6mm?? so you'd have had the white showing on them tyres ;)
Dave
Relaxitscool
20-08-2002, 07:38
Originally posted by JackaL
The Police are, in my experience, 20% tw@ts and 80% UTTER tw@ts :mad:
I have precisely zero respect for any of those c*ck sucking nazis, and I last got pulled for driving too SLOWLY :confused: over giant fooking speed mountains, and flicking the bird to the pig behind me who almost rear ended me at the first speed hump!
I tried to explain that they can cause damage to lowered cars... bl**dy idiotic police w@nkers :rolleyes:
Can someone genetically engineer a virus that kills only pigs???
Something like Swine Fever???!!!!! :D :D
Does that include this pig who also happens to be a fellow 200SX owner? I'm amazed at the immature attitude shown by some people in this thread. Sure, there are some bad eggs out there who give us a bad name but you can't tar us all with the same brush.
I come across members of the public who are complete w**kers, but I don't think you all are. The strange thing is, even those who are w**kers sometimes need our help, and when they ask for it, its given without hesitation.
It'd be nice if sometimes, people looked past the uniform, saw the human being wearing it trying to do a job where you get little gratitude, poor pay and put your life at risk every single day for the benifit of other people. Come people, do you realise that you have the most accountable and efficient, yes efficient, Police in the world.
Sorry if this sounds arsey but its posted at the end of a busy night shift which included dealing with things that most people will never see (hopefully) in their entire lives....
Rob
Mr_Sukebe
20-08-2002, 09:09
Relax>
You've got my vote mate.
I'm just happy that we have people out there trying to protect us.
I know that it's not always possible, but then that's because as a whole, the public is simply not a nice bunch (hey, we wouldn't need a police if we could all be reasonable people).
So come on guys, lets try to be nice to the good guys.
Lets face it, the typical reason why the police have a bad image is not just because of our own experiences, but because the media find them an easy scapegoat to snipe at on a regular basis.
The problem is that they've been doing it so long, that we believe it ourselves now.
I think that the respect has been lost recently-ish due to a mixture of some 'bad eggs' and enforcement of unpopular government policy. When I was young, the police were looked up to, but it's sadly not the case now.
I do think that anyone being surly oor rude to the police has 'got it coming' and is being silly.
I've met and known some great coppers, but I've also come accross some who frankly did not repect their own job enough to deserve the right to protect the public.
I have _mostly_ been treated very fairly and professionally by the police, but several incedents spring to mind where the people in question either had a preconceived conception (That I was guilty), were not willing to admit a mistake on their own behalf and basically resorted to threats and pettiness or were being very obvious bullies.
We all have bad days, but the enforcement of law is not really a job where you should vent frustrations and personal problems.
Remember Matt, that when you go into a Police station and want to complain, you have to demand to speak to the inspector on shift.
Then it has to be investigated fully. Also have your complaint in writting....trust me mate, I know alot about this.
Only personal experiences with the plod whilst I've been driving have been encouraging ones.
Like being overtaken by a T5, whilst I was doing 115 on the M5 :eek: The plod just pulled in front, slowed down to 80, then pulled off.. It certainly slowed me down for the rest of the trip :)
Sadly my only other experience, from a non-driving PoV, is the moron who did my father for drunk driving. Admittedly, my father shouldn't have driven, he was .5 of a unit over or similar. The thing that riled me, was that this copper had a history, which involved him 'staking out' the Police Christmas party, then nailing his colleagues as they drove home afterwards...
But yes, I don't object to the police. They're there for a purpose and to a general extent, do what they're asked to. Despite occasionally, yes, we are somewhat victimised, but I blame the government for that, rather than the actual plod force.
Originally posted by matt_j
right up my ****in ass the ******* comes:mad:
Sounds like he really was taking advantage of his position :eek:
Alot of cops think they are better drivers than everyone else, why is this? I knew a cop and he was always going on about the driving courses he went on and how they made him a better driver. So I took him out in my car and he admitted that he probably couldn't drive THAT fast ;)
Originally posted by dunc
Sounds like he really was taking advantage of his position :eek:
Alot of cops think they are better drivers than everyone else, why is this? I knew a cop and he was always going on about the driving courses he went on and how they made him a better driver. So I took him out in my car and he admitted that he probably couldn't drive THAT fast ;)
ROTFLMAO :D
What does ROTFLMAO stand for?
Rolls On The Floor Laughing My Ass Off
LOL (this is the only one i knew before you explained what that meant)
ROTFLMAO
Originally posted by Relaxitscool
I come across members of the public who are complete w**kers, but I don't think you all are.
I do, I'm sure I'm a t**t sometimes too... :D That's what comes of a couple of years' customer services work! Full respect to Relax - I'm sure its a very, very difficult job. :(
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