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Wookie
04-10-2005, 11:59
Wookie, what have i ever done to you to make you say stuff like that about me? spoke to you before and you seemed ok, if i'm such a problem to you why didn't you say something to me at a meet?
Personally nothing mate, and if you had done I can guarentee you'd know about it :nod: Yes I did meet you before, once at a meet for a about 5mins where you turned up to pick up oil then shot off, but I don't think I even spoke to you !!! It's just your attitude and as someone put it "internet etiquette" does leave a lot to be desiered, so does mine but that's me straight to the point and no fecking about. You seem to want everything for nothing and when you mature a bit you will realise life's not like that :no:. If I offened you then Im sorry but my opinion is my opinion and I have the right to express it unless this country has become a communist regime over the last week.

And what's all this shite about meets being boaring. I admit I haven't been for a few months mainly due to not being in the country for more than 3 days a week, but I thought the whole idea of the meets was for people to get advice about their cars swop info and to solve problems. I think ADE76 had most of his mods fitted at the meets :D Not to go to pubs and promote drink driving, or thrash through the countryside in a chav stylee convoy FFS, Im sure you can find loads of chavtastic corsa's to do that with, do any of you have any sort of social life outside the SXOC :confused: or is the next request going to be a SXOC christmas shopping trip to London :rolleyes: If people want to organise paintballing and other social things then fare enough but don't go throwing you toys out of the pram because no-one else is interested and say that the SW section is shite and boaring, thats out of order.

If the SW-CC organise more events then go and join them, and yes prehaps I would have been into car park meets and all that carry on 10yrs ago when I was your age but we all grow up eventually.

And this about the "clique" , those envolved in this so called "clique" have know each other along time and from what I gather do a hell of lot for each other. They've set up this club within a club as they are true enthuiasts and wanted to do something related with their cars, those who feel left out and winge are probably the one's who cant be botherd to get off their own arses and do it for themselves. It was the same about the meet location a while back where the people that were complaining were the same ones that rarely turned up to any meets.

This whole business has gone to far but there always seems to be the same catalyists. The area reps can't please all the people all of the time but do their best to please the majority of members which is always going to be the common ground. Out of interest, lets have a show of hands from those complaining about the meets etc and see how many of them would become area reps and organise events in their own time, it would be interesting!!!!!!

Hope this dosen't get deleted as I feel I have the right to answer ESCY and I would have sooner if I was in the country.

Butuz
04-10-2005, 12:07
You could have answered ESCY in a private message couldnt you? Adn then put the other points in their relavent threads?

Just my 2p - dont like public arguments here makes the welsh section look unfriendly and who's gonna come along to a meet for the first time if all they see on here is bitching? :)

Butuz

Wookie
04-10-2005, 12:16
Because the public thread he responded to was closed down....that's why. But obviously you have an opinion on that! It's people moaing that makes this seem like a unfriendly section. And I'll think you'll find that I have never moaned about meet locations, meet activites etc, I just get on with what I want to get on with as I do have an independent social life.

dan_blu
04-10-2005, 14:45
:notworthy :clap:

Kev
04-10-2005, 17:26
well wookie i think u overstated ur point somewhat and threw in insults that werent needed.
I agree with Butuz, ur answer should have been in pm if it was actually directed at escy, and think ur answer to Butuz was uncalled for.
this is the kind of thread that would make this section look unfriendly, it would look unfriendly to me if i didnt already know a good few of the folks in here.

Bigtone
04-10-2005, 17:36
I love u Kev :smitten:

Kev
04-10-2005, 17:42
I love u Kev :smitten:

i know u do mate, but iv'e told u b4, those steel teeth scare me almost as much as ur love for women trying to be men.

Jezz_S13
04-10-2005, 17:45
Go and play down your own end Kev. :D

Kev
04-10-2005, 17:52
Go and play down your own end Kev. :D

ok dad :(

bloody spoil sport :cry:

:D :D

Bigtone
04-10-2005, 17:54
i know u do mate, but iv'e told u b4, those steel teeth scare me almost as much as ur love for women trying to be men.
mmmmmm chrome teeth :smitten:

Chris
04-10-2005, 18:55
Thread reopened as there were several valid points raised , l would be interested to see a few more opinions :nod:

docwra
04-10-2005, 19:30
ok dad :(

bloody spoil sport :cry:

:D :D

I got your back Jocky :D

Anything to see here then?? :thumbs:

VIDAL BABBOON
04-10-2005, 20:34
Im going to have a proper read of this later with a coffee, as just skirting over it it does seem to have raised a few good points :nod:


Nick

pdh 14a
04-10-2005, 21:04
I don't have a problem with any of you tidy welsh guys,except that martgit6 who keeps getting me drunk :nod: :wack:

Mel B
04-10-2005, 21:12
I will organise events im my own time no problem at all :D
which I already stated in the thread I started. I have since talked it all through with one of the reps and now understand how difficult it is too organise things and the responsibilities invovled :nod: but this still hasnt put me off organising something if enough people are interested ;)
Saying I threw my toys out of the pram is not quite right. I just thought more people would be up for it. If I offended anyone by my comments then I apologize.

I did also complain about the meets. As I personally find sitting in a car park in winter where its going too be cold and raining most Sundays as pointless. In summer its no problem. But thats my personal opinion. And yes before anyone says "You never bother going", my cars always fecked and Ive been working on it or working to pay for it. Sorry!! I will try to attend the next one, With my shiny new beast that im not embarressed to be seen in :D

Madda
04-10-2005, 23:46
this is the kind of thread that would make this section look unfriendly, it would look unfriendly to me if i didnt already know a good few of the folks in here.

I just find the bickering highly amusing! :thumbs: :clap:

Escy
05-10-2005, 00:08
You seem to want everything for nothing and when you mature a bit you will realise life's not like that :no:.

i'd like a few examples on this? with regards to the engine crane i offered to put £40 towards one for the club. thats hardly unfair is it, considering i've never paid more than £35 to rent one anyhow. its something i thought alot of us would benefit from.

i helped people out where i can, feel i've given more to the club than taken. what exactly have you done?



Not to go to pubs and promote drink driving, or thrash through the countryside in a chav stylee convoy FFS, Im sure you can find loads of chavtastic corsa's to do that with, do any of you have any sort of social life outside the SXOC :confused:

is the crack strong around your way? :wack:

an idea for a run through the Beacons and a stop off at a pub was stolen from a run i attended with the mini 7 car club. most owners were professionals, a doctor, few solicitors, engineers, etc. it involved no thrashing, no drink driving and no chav convoy. why would it be any different for us, can you not trust yourself to not drink if you attended a pub or to boot it around?

i thought it'd be a nice change to go for a drive with lovely roads and great views and then sit down and talk in a nice warm pub rather than stand around our cars in the icy cold rain shivering. i'm obviously very wrong about that though. Burgerking carpark is the best place to be in wales. :rolleyes:



If the SW-CC organise more events then go and join them, and yes prehaps I would have been into car park meets and all that carry on 10yrs ago when I was your age but we all grow up eventually.

fook me, remind me exactly what the SXOC meet consists of? o yeah, a meet at a car park. so the fact your grown up than everyone else is the reason you rarely turn up? :confused:

SW-CC has organised track days and RR shootouts. they also get stands on most popular car shows. no cruises are organised through them.


They've set up this club within a club as they are true enthuiasts and wanted to do something related with their cars, those who feel left out and winge are probably the one's who cant be botherd to get off their own arses and do it for themselves. It was the same about the meet location a while back where the people that were complaining were the same ones that rarely turned up to any meets.

so the SXOC is a club for people that aren't 200SX enthuiasts then? :wack: as for not doing anything themselves, is that aimed at me? since owning my car i've stripped and freshened up an engine, fitted new clutch, suspension, brakes all around, etc all by myself. and this summer i spent everyday removing it all and putting it on a new car when i re-shelled it. all done on my Jack Jones. i'm also swapping the suspension, brakes and removing 2 engines and swapping them from one car to yet another - all on my Billy No Mates too. its the only reason why i've not been able to go to any meets lately. :Plug:



Hope this dosen't get deleted as I feel I have the right to answer ESCY and I would have sooner if I was in the country.

glad you did. you've got a knack for writing sh1te, look forward to the next lot of bollocks got ready to spout out. :ghey:


1 point i'd like to make myself. people who are content with the events/meets arrangements haven't attended/been in other car clubs to see just how good a car club can be. don't get me wrong, the working on peoples cars/etc side of the club is great and i'd get involved myself if it wasn't for the fact i'm always working on mine. the events/orgainisation side of the club leaves alot to be desired. i don't know of any other car clubs that do less than we do. :confused:

dan_blu
05-10-2005, 09:14
lol and you wonder why NO ONE wants to speak to you !! above post was totaly out of order imo !! :down:

Jezz_S13
05-10-2005, 10:01
FFS calm down people.

Escy, RE Events and SW-CC.

They are a massive car club all located in one area so that have enough members to do things like track days, even then this latest one is probably the 4th attempt to get enough people to make the track day viable, it costs ~£2k to get Llandow for the day.
There are what 20ish active SW members? and say 50% max of those would want to do a track day?

I'll have a word with Nick & Phill to see if there's any scope for something like an SXOC stand at their track day if anyone is interested.

EDIT: Since found out that it's actually not SW-CC that's organising it, it's Chaos from WPCC that's sorting it out.

As for other shows, which do you mean?
SXOC as a whole has stands at shows, but is NOT going to have stands at shite like Weston Wheels.

As you can see from the other thread asking what people want to do, there is a problem no one (or very few) wants to do the same thing as anyone else, and as the SW area has so few members it's bloody hard to find something viable.
Cruises are not organised through SW-CC, but some are organised within SW-CC by members, probably much the same as we have here though we are more pro-active in distancing ourselves from them, but that's another argument.

pdh 14a
05-10-2005, 12:24
I think that Escy has answered himself very well,i too feel that this club could be so much better!it's understandable that things never happen though as we have people aged 19 to 61 years old!
All we can do is try to organise something and if it works(karting)then :cool:
If there's not enough interest (paintballing)then it doesn't happen :(
One thing that i will say though is that this section is too bitchy of late and a little bit of give and take wouldn't go amiss!Same with the events,just because you don't love to do something,sometimes we should put ourselves out more,who knows,you may enjoy something you haven't tried before!
Now lets all have a group hug,forgive and forget before it gets out of hand!
love you guys :thumbs:

Wookie
05-10-2005, 13:06
is the crack strong around your way? Obviously this is high level intellectual response that people have come to expect from you, implying people are on drugs. That's all I going to say on that as it dosen't warrent any further response.

Most of the points that were raised above are valid and true points e.g. people moaning about events and meets, it's just the fact that everyone else seems to brush around the subject instead rather than deal with it that's how these "arguments "happen". I know Im not going to stand by and watch people slag off the area reps that have made me welcome in the club, they are good blokes and deserve more respect.


fook me, remind me exactly what the SXOC meet consists of? o yeah, a meet at a car park. so the fact your grown up than everyone else is the reason you rarely turn up? As stated above mate I haven't been to the last 3 meets I think due to the fact Im only in the country from a Monday Night to a thurday afternoon. Before that I attended nearly everyone since I joined the club at which you turned up for 1 may be 2 meets.


an idea for a run through the Beacons and a stop off at a pub was stolen from a run i attended with the mini 7 car club. most owners were professionals, a doctor, few solicitors, engineers, etc. it involved no thrashing, no drink driving and no chav convoy. why would it be any different for us, can you not trust yourself to not drink if you attended a pub or to boot it around? Of course I trust myself, Im t-total, i just don't trust boy racers like you, previous posts say it all.


so the SXOC is a club for people that aren't 200SX enthuiasts then? as for not doing anything themselves, is that aimed at me? since owning my car i've stripped and freshened up an engine, fitted new clutch, suspension, brakes all around, etc all by myself. and this summer i spent everyday removing it all and putting it on a new car when i re-shelled it. all done on my Jack Jones. i'm also swapping the suspension, brakes and removing 2 engines and swapping them from one car to yet another - all on my Billy No Mates too. its the only reason why i've not been able to go to any meets lately. I understand that people can't come to every meet me included as explained above, but have you ever thought why you end up doing it on your own or why not many people respond to you help requests :confused:


glad you did. you've got a knack for writing sh1te, look forward to the next lot of bollocks got ready to spout out. Yet another insult with no meaning. If you read my post only the first paragraph related to you . The rest was about all the moaning and whining that seems to be going on that was also raised in the previous thread that was closed. But obviously you thought that it was all aimed personally at you even though your name was not mentioned in it.


i helped people out where i can, feel i've given more to the club than taken. what exactly have you done? I turn up to meets when possible I have been to few RRdays in associaten with the SW-CC and did offer for free a car for the scrap heap challange thingy but apart from that nowt. I never said that I had done anything for the club:confused:


1 point i'd like to make myself. people who are content with the events/meets arrangements haven't attended/been in other car clubs to see just how good a car club can be. don't get me wrong, the working on peoples cars/etc side of the club is great and i'd get involved myself if it wasn't for the fact i'm always working on mine. the events/orgainisation side of the club leaves alot to be desired. i don't know of any other car clubs that do less than we do. All I can say to that is if you feel we should or could do more as a club put your name forward as a rep or and organising sort of rep and get things going, instead of just saying that we don't do enough and haveing a dig at the current reps.

I haven't got a problem with anyone on hear, there are a few that piss me off but I just ignore them. But I think that we should get behind our reps (not litterally, that's a scary thought :D ;) )and support them and offer them support rather than coming on hear and haveing cheap digs at their supposed lack of organisation.

This is the last I have to say on the matter as I don't want to get into a slanging match on hear, but if anyone wishes to have a personal discussion Im sure you can get my address off the area reps.


love you guys you been listerning to scott Mills to much mate :D ;)

dan_blu
05-10-2005, 13:24
well put mate........dimplomatic and not insulting like some people !! :rolleyes: :thumbs:

StuartUK
05-10-2005, 13:31
Although going off the topic, not a dig as such, but.......
I think Wookies car should be taken off the road..

























Reason, cos it's too dam fast, made me poo myself when he took me for a ride in it, and then made my car feel like a Nova (speed).. :wack: :D

Stu

Mikesx13
05-10-2005, 14:12
Just from an outsiders point of view, everyone seems to be going very harsh on Escy who actually seems to make construct a decent diplomatic argument relating his arguments to things that he's experienced which could be applied to SXOC to make it better....although there are little digs and insults dished out they do only appear to be to the same extent as the digs and insults he's recieving. :confused:

Butuz
05-10-2005, 17:49
Just from an outsiders point of view, everyone seems to be going very harsh on Escy who actually seems to make construct a decent diplomatic argument relating his arguments to things that he's experienced which could be applied to SXOC to make it better....although there are little digs and insults dished out they do only appear to be to the same extent as the digs and insults he's recieving. :confused:

Agreed. I think Escy just gave as good as he got.

This is all getting a bit OTT now - why dont you two take it to PM and leave us out of it?

Butuz

unipsycho
05-10-2005, 18:06
Now lets all have a group hug,forgive and forget before it gets out of hand!
love you guys :thumbs:

:clap: :ghey: ;)

Kev
05-10-2005, 18:19
Well im trying to play a bit of devils advocate here lads, and its pretty hard.
If i seem to be defending escy, its cos so many of u just wanna attack him.

so here it is on the line from a semi outsider's point of view.

Both Wookie and escy have stated their points.
Both wookie and escy have took a very childish line having a dig at each other when thats nothing to do with the club, and are just using this thread for an arguement.
In escy's defence, wookie u attacked first, but then again, escy didnt need to respond with insults, he could have risen above it, but instead he also responded with insults.

Tell me how any of that helps the club or its events, all it does is create tension and division within the area, which is good for no-one.

In Scotland we dont have very many people, admittedly howevr, more than u lads do.

I remember very clearly a few years ago trying to start up meets when there was about 10 people on the bb from scotland.

Now we have a good monthly meet which btw is at a brewers fayre which has a pub in it.
This is not a problem as anyone who is driving, doesnt drink, as u would expect.

We struggle for numbers on rr days and events, but all we do is invite other clubs that we know are good guys to bring numbers up.
Im sure some of the sw cc guys would attend events that u lads put on to make up the numbers.

so instead of trying to take pops at one another, why dont you try and organise things.

Any more slagging or offensive comments from anyone, and this thread will be closed and closed permanently.

Play nice kids, or i will make u sit and view only pictures of Tony's men (trying badly to kid on they are women) with muscles video for a month :wack:

Kev

Escy
05-10-2005, 19:05
Very last warning from me escy, and u will note im one of very few defending u here.
QUIT IT.
Kev



There are what 20ish active SW members? and say 50% max of those would want to do a track day?

I'll have a word with Nick & Phill to see if there's any scope for something like an SXOC stand at their track day if anyone is interested.

EDIT: Since found out that it's actually not SW-CC that's organising it, it's Chaos from WPCC that's sorting it out.

As you can see from the other thread asking what people want to do, there is a problem no one (or very few) wants to do the same thing as anyone else, and as the SW area has so few members it's bloody hard to find something viable.

very good points there. i'm sure if we did decide to organise an event SXOCers from the other sections would likely support us and bring the numbers up. thats what seems to happen with events the other sections have organised. people are willing to travel for a RR day or track day usually.

VIDAL BABBOON
05-10-2005, 21:01
Well there is not much for me to add really as everything appears to be covered now.


Think everything that needs to be said has been said and it should be left at that with regard the personal attacks.


RE sw-cc comparison to sxoc...


There is no comparison here in my eyes sw-cc is a large local area club and the sxoc is a huge international club !

The reason that we can offer the RR days is there are a large number of people based in a relatively small area.

As has been mentioned on many occasions the SW members of sxoc are more than welcome to attend any of the RR day's we organize for the sw cc members.
And many of you have done so in the past.

And if you ever wanted an sxoc RR day then why not combine it with the lads over the bridge !!
Westec have a very good set up and they are based not far from Bristol so im sure there would be interest from other areas :)

GAV200
06-10-2005, 13:57
Why not use the difficultys expressed in this thread to an advantage.

Ecsay and wookie kiss and make up :smitten: , And continue this thread on a positive with an "aw inspiring" , "holy sh :censored:t that was good ", " every body enjoyed" , "one size fits all" one off type Event/Weekend/Meet. Starting with a date with enough notice so as to allow everyone to attend. and so as to co-inside with wookies work/Travel schedule

As you two seem to feel the most strongly about it I propose you guys be at the forefront of orginising it. And i'm sure that the club reps and all who have added to this thread will support you with this action, so as to resolve your dissagrements.

If anyone thinks i'm out of line for proposing this sorry but I felt I had to add somehing..........remember there are now problems in life only challenges. :thumbs:

Wookie
06-10-2005, 14:26
]Ecsay and wookie kiss and make up I don't think that will ever happen after his inslut about drug taking yesterday mate :rolleyes: :no:

I know what your saying mate, and totally agree to an extent but I have never had a problem about the meet location, events etc. I was just stating the point that it's out of order for others to critisie the existing reps for what they do. Like I said above I attend the events that I want to attend, and when I physically can, but I don't see the club as the main thing in my life. I accept the club as it is and what it does and I never said anything contrary to that. If others want different things then it's up to them to organise it like you did with the BBQ down Pembrey which was a good idea for the summer :nod: :thumbs: . I don't want people to organise events etc around me and my life because I don't think that's fair on the everyone else in the club :no: and I don't organise my life around the club.

Im all for other people organising the events that they want and can get the support for and I know if I wanted a certain activity/event I would get out there and get it sorted and ask for the support of the reps and other members. What I don't like is people saying the clubs rubbish, dosen't do enough and then sit back and do nothing.

With my current commitments (renovate a 1890's house, find a new job abroad, find a new house abroad, travel 700mls every weekend to see the G/F) I don't even get time to drive my car so organising events is totally out of the question for me.

Your not out of line suggesting it mate, but in reallity it ain't going to happen :D

manic_mechanic
06-10-2005, 14:33
Could Escy have meant craic, since the subject was social lives outside SXOC?

GAV200
06-10-2005, 15:08
:thumbs:

GINNO
10-10-2005, 17:23
Whats going on here then!! HANDBAGS United!! Although I have seen lots of other posts of this nature on the other sections with Escy involved or in the middle off it oooo he's a little terrier!

Butuz
10-10-2005, 18:01
with Escy involved or in the middle off it oooo he's a little terrier!

oooo isnt he just!

http://www.coastalpoodlerescue.org/newsevents/eventpix/PinkPoodle.jpg

:eek: :wack:

Butuz

GINNO
10-10-2005, 18:21
waaaahhhhaaaaa!!! :D :notworthy

VIDAL BABBOON
10-10-2005, 18:23
Bwwwwaaahhhh

:)

Bigtone
10-10-2005, 18:40
oooo isnt he just!

http://www.coastalpoodlerescue.org/newsevents/eventpix/PinkPoodle.jpg

:eek: :wack:

Butuz
you worry me mate (knowing where to find that pic)