View Full Version : My Cossys back!!
Yeah, the babys back on the road. Its been four months now and Id forgotton just how quick it is :D
Been messing about with it all evening and thought Id wind the boost up a bit. Went for a blast up the road and first time I floored it as soon as the turbo gave a hint of life the boost gauge needle shot straight round to the stop, and it peaks at 30psi!! :eek: Oops!! LOL
Wound it down a bit and everythings A ok now. Mmmmm greys coming soon :D
Some pics:
http://www.apexperformance.co.uk/catalog/images/cossy_cv_bl_crb.JPG
http://www.apexperformance.co.uk/catalog/images/Cossy%20side.jpg
http://www.apexperformance.co.uk/catalog/images/cossy1.jpg
http://www.apexperformance.co.uk/catalog/images/cossy%20front%20angle.jpg
hames_jet
12-07-2002, 22:32
Nice 1!
Sweet Cossy mate, wish my 200 would take 30PSI:D :D
Darksurfer
12-07-2002, 22:38
What you could do with Bren is someone who could supply you with performance car parts at a keen rate. :rolleyes:
:D
Nice motor mate.
You gonna call in at Billing then to see all your loyal customers who keep you and Mrs Bren in that lap of luxury?
My Cossy wont take 30psi either!! At least not with dark green injectors, cant cope dont you know ;)
Once the greys are fitted itll be a different story :D
Im lucky there was no damage as its on the limit at 24psi! But then I throttles off immediately so no harm doen. Ive got a high/low boost switch and even on low boost the needle shot round to 25psi before I got chance to let off. I dont know where it would have finished up given the chance!
I am hoping to have a stand at Billing, Im just trying to sort a stall out :)
Actual_Ben_Taylor
12-07-2002, 22:46
Bren, you wanna get yourself a nice electronic boost controller....
Ben,
Nah, Cossys dont do boost controllers. Theyre far too sophisticated for the good old Ford Pinto ;)
Blobsta,
No mate, OZ Polaris :)
Actual_Ben_Taylor
12-07-2002, 23:07
Well what about those air injectors then...?
[QUOTE]Originally posted by bren
[B]
Nah, Cossys dont do boost controllers. Theyre far too sophisticated for the good old Ford Pinto ;)
cant be done then?
Air to airs are only used on mega power Cossys. Youre bog standard 400bhp wreckers make do with the good old amal valve :)
Its just not something thats considered important in the Cossy world, dont ask me why, thats just the way it is. Cossy guys must just like the uncontrollable power you get with a T34 with hunking great exhaust housing and wild cams that result in nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing WWWWWWWWWWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA :D
Dont ask me why. To be honest Im 100% happy with how my Cossy produces its power and see no need for a boost controller. Apart from maybe limiting power in first for better launches ;)
Arry,
You can fit just about any boost controller to a Cossy, they just arent used in the main. Like I say the only guys I know running any sort of boost control are running 500+bhp. Apart from competiton cars that is, rally cars etc running 300bhp and 400lb/ft or torque tend to run air to airs :)
SteveCarter200
13-07-2002, 00:21
Large chap arent you. :D
Soz, pissed:D:D
Thats not me stood by my car, its a mate, Rob. Although its not like youd ever mix me up with Twiggy or anything ;)
In the middle pic I was attempting some doughnut pics but the bloody F1s wouldnt let go properly. It was getting a real bootful in that pic and you can see the amount of lock thats being applied but it would just light up the inside tyre whilst the outer one dug in and propelled the car forward!
F1s :rolleyes: Bring on the Fuldas!! Never had any probs getting the Avons to let go ;) LOL :D
Originally posted by bren
In the middle pic I was attempting some doughnut pics but the bloody F1s wouldnt let go properly. It was getting a real bootful in that pic and you can see the amount of lock thats being applied but it would just light up the inside tyre whilst the outer one dug in and propelled the car forward!
F1s :rolleyes: Bring on the Fuldas!! Never had any probs getting the Avons to let go ;) LOL :D
Lol!
I could teach you a thing or 2 about doing proper donuts!
It's about all Avon ZZ-1's are good for! :rolleyes: Still, I've had no problem spinning up the Conti's either...
You wanna get that engine bay looking a bit more like this ... :D
http://www.yossman.net/~andyf/silvia.net/media/meets/cheshire_2002-07-13/smaller-version/cossie-ste-engine.jpg
Hmmmmm, Cossie Ste's mota :)
All those shiney bits almost made me dip my hand in my pocket and make him an offer (cash that is - I know how some of the minds on this BB work :rolleyes: ;) )
Cheers John :D
Jackal,
Ive too much mechanical sympathy to really hammer the car now. Well, off the line anyway. Once its rolling anything goes ;) :D Ive already broken one diff and dont fancy breaking another!!
Andy,
Looks very nice but Im not interested in shiny bits. I just fit things that will make the car go faster, the last thing I want to do in my free time is polish the oxidised cr@p off the the alloys parts that only stay shiny for a week or so!
The only reason the car had a carbon fibre cambelt cover was because I make and sell them and I was testing the fit :)
I dont like the silicon vacuum hose either, its no where near as strong as the original stuff (if you pull on it it just stretches and snaps!) and I dont fancy risking the turbo housing to actuator or plenum to fuel pressure regulator hose splitting just for the sake of having it red rather than black. A load of us went to a Ford show a couple of years ago and a mate bought some vacuum hose and fitted it there and then. One of the pipes went to the dump valve top. We set of home and got about three miles before his car started throwing out big clouds of black skmoke and running like a dog. Turns out the hose going to the dv had just split where it joined the dv!
Another mate was flat out down a motorway blowing away an Evo 5 when the silicon turbo to actuator pipe split allowing the turbo to produce as much boost as it was capable of doing, instant melted engine and £2k rebuild :eek: Nah, plain old black re-enforced fuel hose will do me just fine!! LOL
I would never fit a Pipercross induction kit either, again I like my engine internals to remain nice and smooth and not damaged by the dirt and cr@p that foam filters let through! Standard Cossy airboxes are good for 500+bhp so theyre good enough for me :)
So there, no I dont want my engine bay looking like that, thankyou very much :p ;) :D
Having said that I do like looking at all the shiny bits that people fit, its just not for me.
What do you think of this:
http://www.apexperformance.co.uk/catalog/images/Shiny%20engine%20bay.JPG
I like the look but could never be arsed with the maintenance! LOL :D I want a concours car but only because itll be a minter and I would be able to rag it about without worrying about it being rusty or bits breaking.!! Id never get underneith and start cleaning it, in fact Id end up undersealing the entire bottom of the car and ruining the previous owners hard work! LOL
bren, the shinyness was an extra..
Cossie Ste's motor is quick n stuff, and stops well, especially on roundabouts (COUGH)
I imagine it does go well. What intercooler is it running, a PACE one?
And are they greens I spy ;)
If so youll have an idea of what mines like, although my intercooler is twice the capacity of a PACE one :D
AshT_200
15-07-2002, 13:06
In this months Performance Ford (I bought it cos they were doing an Intercooler Group TEst between genuine RS500, Pace and Forge Items.......) they have a Cossy from Norway that is producing over 600BHP :eek: using 4 1000cc injectors and Autronic Management. With the Roller Bearing Turbonetics T61, he apparently gets less lag than if he was using the usual T4. :eek:
Yeah Ive got it. The car looks very impressive doesnt it. You dont see that sort of tuning in the UK, we just stick the usual same old same old tuning techiques where as the Norwegians go mental and come up with some real monster Cossys :)
Btw, heres some info regarding the ic test.
I tested an early PACE intercooler on my Cossy last year and found that my own Cosworth intercooler performed better. Not by a great amount, 1 degree, but it still worked better.
Now there are two things to note. The first is that my intercooler tested above was an early design. Since then the core has jumped from 50mm depth to 70mm, the core is 40mm wider and also 40mm taller so its now considerably larger than the one tested back to back against the PACE item
Secondly, the early PACE intercoolers have been shown to be more efficient than the later version and it was an early version that I tested.
Now logically we can deduce the following from the information above and the results of the magazine test:
My present intercooler performs better than my early design.
My early design performed better than the early PACE intercooler.
The early PACE intercooler is better than the existing PACE item.
Therefore my exsisting RS500 type intercooler should pretty much p1ss all over the exsisting PACE item.
The magazine reports that the existing PACE item ran 0.6 degrees cooler than the genuine RS500 item at 40mph
It also reports that under hard acceleration from 40mph to 100mph that the PACE cooler hit 64.3 degrees whilst the genuine RS500 item ran 65.6 degrees.
I should therfore be able to deduce that my intercooler would also p1ss all over a genuine RS500 item!
Wayhey!! LOL :D :D
Should have got my unit tested at the same time, fecking borrocks!
The mag feauture is full of holes though. The article states that due to the restrictive nature of the PACE cooler the car was only running 17-18psi rather than 20. So why the feck didnt they wind the boost back upto 20psi to compensate before doing the test?
And what were the ambient temps? If it was in the middle of Jauary then any old toss intercooler would do a good job.
Lastly, 20psi is nothing when youre running a T4. Because of the size of the turbo the intake temps would be relatively low meaning that none of the intercoolers would have been working very hard to keep the temps down.
They should have been running 30psi to do the test properly as that would really show up the pooper intercoolers and make the more efficient ones shine.
It should also have been carried out on a day with sensible ambient tmeps again to make the coolers work that much harder.
AshT_200
15-07-2002, 14:27
Originally posted by bren
The mag feauture is full of holes though. The article states that due to the restrictive nature of the PACE cooler the car was only running 17-18psi rather than 20. So why the feck didnt they wind the boost back upto 20psi to compensate before doing the test?
Weren't they just demonstrating that you get a pressure drop with the PACE and that the RS500 and Forge items flowed better?
Under tyhe acceleration test it reported that the PACE dropped the temp by 64.3 degrees whilst the RS500 dropped the temp by 65.6
Doh, yeah sorry my mistake. Reading too fast :rolleyes:
Ok then, the PACE cooler ran 1 degree hotter than the genuine article. Either way my old design cooler should therefore match the RS500 and the new one work even better :)
Its not clear if they did wind up the boost to compensate, I assumed they didnt??
I cant imagine my cooler would cause any sort of real pressure drop. In fact when going from a 4x4 to my old design the boost went from 22psi peak and 18psi held to a held 22psi. That then increased to 23-24psi held with the new design.
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