View Full Version : Oulton park drifting..
YorkshireRam
03-08-2005, 16:02
been onto a guy who's organising some drift praccy days there, here's what is being offered...
2 hours on the rally circuit. smooth asphalt and plenty of run-off - 10 cars on track at the same time as there are 2 sides to it, 5 on each, a lap takes 40 secs so hardly any queues.. £50. (or 4 hours for £100, maybe get a discount if enough turn up) He run an event a month ago and it was a great success with everyone enjoying it - there is free tuition aswell.
downsides - it may need to be wetted to keep noise levels down but depends on the noise on the day really.
the next one is on the 13th August, which is quite short-notice but if anyone wants to join up, just stick your name down on the thread and I'll get the details. there will be future ones I should have thought.
what do you think?
Cheers, Ian :)
Would I get shot for going there and just grip driving, and not attempting to drift? ;)
Probably not the right idea...
YorkshireRam
03-08-2005, 16:32
heh heh :) well, I think you'd move over to the dark side, you just couldn't resist.... lol
i_need_£
03-08-2005, 18:29
would have been well up for this, but its too short notice as i work saturdays, let me know when you have a date for the next one, also do they have a tyre machine there? and would you have to pay to use it, just checking, as it would be worth knowing,
heh heh :) well, I think you'd move over to the dark side, you just couldn't resist.... lol
I might be tempted - it might actually develop my car control a touch :rolleyes:
Bugger thats mint, but I'm gearing up for teeside at the mo, whens the next one we can do ?
Thats sooooo good tho, make sure you post on the other site too, I reckon LOADS of people would love to come along to this one its truly a north west venue !! count me in tho for the next one, the 13th I'm in norwich being mapped.
I'm up for this if you need numbers! bargain price too ;)
I am a stone cold beginner tho
YorkshireRam
03-08-2005, 23:25
this particular date is short notice, its really a problem for me but I can pop down and take a look and get some pictures and more details. but there will be further dates, upto 2 a month if there is demand so all good stuff. :)
edit : beginners are fine, free tuition aswell which is nice. :)
Well done mate you have been busy and working hard on this by the looks of things ! will back you up in anyway I can just ask chief :) oh my god we might actually be getting a drift scene up here :D
we might actually be getting a drift scene up here :D
think its just a crewl joke reminding me that my car is still in bits :cry: (got the damm thing running then some one started nicking bits...)
might come down and spectate lol
YorkshireRam
08-08-2005, 10:58
guys, I'd like to start getting a list together for people who wanna pop up and have a few hours drift praccy,
At the moment
Yorkshireram
Si T
peter barber123
Chris d
paz
Dorifto (tbc)
originalMJG (you'll be fine!)
mitto
copy and paste the list and add your name, just so I can give the guy some expected numbers.
ta!
:)
Yorkshireram
Si T
peter barber123
Chris d
paz
Dorifto (tbc)
originalMJG (you'll be fine!)
mitto
Lenagh
YorkshireRam
08-08-2005, 11:46
lenagh dude, this is the 13th, are you not bein mapped? :)
oh right yeah soz :D
oops :wack:
Yorkshireram
Si T
peter barber123
Chris d
paz
Dorifto (tbc)
originalMJG (you'll be fine!)
mitto
YorkshireRam
08-08-2005, 17:05
righto lads, we gotta book ourselves in, and it's payment over the phone - they are gonna run us from 11am - 1pm, so we need to be there an hour earlier to be all sorted.
Call TrackAction on 0871 2000 221 , they are open till 9pm.
YorkshireRam
09-08-2005, 17:47
don't know mate, they'll have non-sxoc guys as they have done before I suppose. I'll be there and I'm assuming the list above will/have booked. :)
Yorkshireram
Si T
peter barber123
Chris d
paz
Dorifto (tbc)
originalMJG (you'll be fine!)
mitto
bren
Ive booked the 11-1pm session and the 2pm-4pm :)
YorkshireRam
09-08-2005, 18:15
cool, I'm doing the 11-1pm minimum, might do the 2-4pm... :)
Should I take the less grippy standard rear rims of just go with the 235x40x18 Avon ZZ3s? Whats going to be best for a complete novice? Im going to have fun with a dirty great GT2871R arent I :rolleyes: :cry: :D
if your poor then use the standard wheels, if you can afford to try and drift on the wheels and tyre setup you will use all the time in comps as the different side walls etc between the two is significant. If thats avons use them, if thats std wheels and tires use them.
Where is the rally track when you enter the main entrance?? Is it the bit of tarmac to the right of the ticket gates?
question for folks who've done this before -
I have a spair pair of GTR rims with near bald tyres on 'em, will these do??? or do I really need some with quite a bit of wear left in 'em???
ta
tbh they prolly a bit low mate so won't last long but they will do for your starter pair. Take another set as well. How long they last depends on how you drive, I pick a corner drift it then rest the tyres between corners. Which means the temps on them don't stay high enough to really wear. If your constantly spinning and smoking they'll last seconds.
I'd shove some std's on if you got the the 9" fronts and slim rears will be good to have a go on the first time you do it.
11 till 1 sesh booked
Dave, wanna sell me a pair of standards back???? :wack: ;)
You can borrow two if you want but they have brand new F1 eagles on lol so you'd have to replace them with nankangs if you eat them :p
drop me your number Dave and we can sort something out
I can't trash your Eagle F1s Dave
can anyone help out?? maybe a sparepair of standard rims going??? Bren? :confused:
I gave all our spare rims to Kev because we had no where to put them, sorry :(
thanks anyway Bren
anyone?? (please)
can anyone help out?? maybe a sparepair of standard rims going???
I can loan you some wheels with tyres suitable for drifting, for a very small fee to cover the tyre wear. Or rims that will need tyres on free loan.
Do you want
1) Avons with 1.5mm legal tread - Tyres cost me £5 each, and fitting £5 each.
2) Nearly new nankangs on rims, stand me ~ £40/pair
3) Half worn Star milleniums on rims, £30 ? (Bren has these to keep the S14a off the ground, but can easily swap them with something else).
4) Free loan of rims only and source your own tyres.
Thinks thats it, your welcome
thanks for the offer Kev, would I be able to pick a pair up tonight?as I'm out all day tomorrow
(goes without saying that I'd pay you for the tyres ;) )
Si
The two tracks are based within the centre of the track when you go in on your right hand side between the pits and the entrance and are quite good as i did the rally day they hold there and there is plenty of room for drifting apart from 1 area on 1 of the track as i remember there was trees on 1 corner :eek: but the track is really slippy as we did em in escort cossies with the sierra box i think and they were plenty good enough so you guys will have fun especially if they teachin you. perfect ofr beginners as the tracks arn't that big but wide.
Wish i could come but little short notice, turbo on its way out and so is the clutch so untill i sort it out ill not be doing any more motorsport. hopefully ill be there for the next one.
Are spectators allowed? Oulton park is just down the road from where I am now (at my parents)
Edit, found the thread on drift works, looks like speccys are ok, will be there to spy :)
OMG thats the worst weather in ages, sat watching the drifting between 11-3pm in my dads white mazda :) it looked like the track was a large swimming pool :eek:
The black S13 with the supra style spoiler was awesome I dont know how he managed to drive like that when everbody else was struggling to keep it on the blackstuff (not that they would be able to see it with the flood).
Bren you need to get a bit of tape around those exhaust hangers :thumbs: hope there was no damage done to the turbo section.
If i wasn't shoppin for the birthday pressies i would have been there spectatin an all :( , anyone got pics of the day??
I cracked the first two bends by the end of the day. Set off in first, drift round first bend, get car set up for transition, flick car to other side whilst grabbing second. bring clutch back in with a boot of throttle, as soon as engine starts spinning up come right off throttle, let car slide, catch on throttle and steer through the rest of the corner.
That technique took me five bleeding hours to learn but I tried very hard and cracked it by the end of the day so Im a very very happy bunny :D
Well, I was until we got back to the unit, unloaded the tyres and tools, got back in the car and the turbo elbow fell off the turbo. Literally, as in the front pipe was sat on the floor :cry: The last three turbo to elbiow studs all sheared ight outside the unit. Looky as fook as they could have sheared on the m/way :eek:
Then we had to get the trailer out with the s13 on it, get the S13 off, reverse the trailer upto the S14, use a piece of wire to hold the front pipe off the floor and then get ann to start the S14 and drive it onto the trailer asap.
The exhaust fell off ALL FOUR hangers half way through a lap early in the day which damaged the turbo elbow to turbo fittings (sheared the top two off completely and damaged the bottom three) for those who dont know. We need to replace them with poly items, that will stop it hppening again :nod:
I am now officially a DRIFTER, yey :D :thumbs:
Im defo going to kick ass next year, its easy peasie :nod: ;)
same thing happened to my exhaust after I tightened up the front pipe nuts, it ripped the turbo most of the way off the maifold :eek: now I just leave the front pipe blowing :wack: haha
Ours is fecked because the exhaust dropped ontot he floor and I dragged it all the way round the circuit and back to the pits so I could fix it :rolleyes:
I dont think the turbo elbow studs appriciated that.
I have lots of work to do to make it all A ok again :cry:
sounds like a good reason to hurry those flexi front pipes along :nod:
try putting jubilee clips round the hangers too so they stay tight. also stops the exhaust dragging as much:)
Poly hangers will sort it, the originals are too old and too soft and that combined with lots of lubricant (water) and sideways forces must have pulled the hangers off one by one.
Theres no way poly hangers would do the same :no:
didn't work for me, they stretched and tore. even when they were new they didn't hold the exhaust high enough:(
Poly hangers?
My problem is simply the metal hangers falling out of the rubbers, that wont happen with poly :no:
yeah, the yellow kind that are REALLY hard to fit. I fitted them when I reshelled my car, then all but the 2 rearmost hangers broke off the exhaust and I noticed the poly hangers were stretched and deformed on the broken ones and getting there on the rearmost 2:( It might be ok on a car thats not used on the road as much with more ground clearance (I wore a hole in my nurspec), but I've not had a problem since I put the stock 100k+ miles rubber ones back on :confused:
are you driving in D1 next year then bren?
They are a complete bytch to fit :nod:
Yeah Im going to be kicking ass in D1 next year :thumbs:
I have lots of work to do to make it all A ok again :cry:
Is that not the car your fitting the evil gt3071R on? Have you got any support welded to the front pipe to chassis, as the original front pipe had something on.
BTW its my 24th birthday this thursday, so two lollipops arriving with the bits would :cool:
Yeah it getting the 3071 next week :)
A front pipe support would have helped take the strain off the turbo elbow studs after the exhaust fell off all its hangers :nod: Im going tosort one when we fit the new turbo :)
So did anyone get any piccys for us poor sods that couldn't make it?
Have you seen the pics of me, have you have you?
Have you seen the pics of me, have you have you?
http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=166429
:nod:
http://www.finaldrivemagazine.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/bren1-web.jpg
Looks Good, could you see?
http://www.finaldrivemagazine.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/bren2-web.jpg
Looks like the track they teach you to throw a rally car around, they get you drifting on that, so ideal little track.
Glad you had fun :D
Poly hangers?
My problem is simply the metal hangers falling out of the rubbers, that wont happen with poly :no:
there was me thinking it was the huge amount of axle tramp we were gettin' ;)
ne'er mind the weather, it was a complete hoot! nice little circuit to have a first dabble at drifting on and way more interesting than doing donuts. The instructor did a pretty impressive job in my car too!!
As Bren said - very satisfying to practice a few techniques like lift-off oversteer and clutch kick and to start getting them right. It's a safe little arena to learn about balancing the car sideways. When's the next one, I'm there!
We should have a club outing there - get both circuits going and a big gang of us.
Any pics of me?? (I'm having trouble accessing Drifworks from home) PLEAAAASE :D ;)
PS - oh yeah, and NO tyre wear! I got miself some part worn 235s but I would've been fine using my road tyres (for anyone who was thinking of having a go)
YorkshireRam
15-08-2005, 11:24
wet! jeeesus.
bren, nice one mate :) - could see you were getting the feel when I was there, the turbo doesn't make it ideal for a wee circuit like that, especially when wet but on a big track, you'd find it much more usable.
and si, cool man, what a hoot - you were doing some mega drifts, we just need a teeside day (dry hopefully) to get some higher speed stuff.
paz was rocking his beemer around :notworthy , great to watch and can't wait to see him out in his ae86 :), bad luck followed with the fan belt shearing. :(
I had a good time and soon learnt to fully close the window when going through a flood sideways... lol - and the instructor was a good laugh, even though he put my car off and ripped a zorst hanger off - he didn't like the lag! :)
thanks to Mrs P for taking photos too, dedication is a understatement.. :thumbs: :notworthy
What was drifing there like in terms of difficulty compared to Silverstone?
If you put them both on a scale of ten?
I need to know how what we learnt on Sat would cross over to the faster stuff.
YorkshireRam
15-08-2005, 11:57
for oulton park, throttle control was everything :) but overall the difficulty level was low due to it being wet. initiating a drift was much easier than in the dry. it would be about 3/10 - the rivers running across the track didn't make life any easier though. :) Silverstone wasn't technically hard, it was a case of initiating at the right point so you positioned the car correctly at the first set of corner apexs, the rest was a case of quite brutual throttle control! lol difficulty level, say 7/10 - the harder tracks are the ones like snetterton where you've got to hold a drift for two right-handers.
either way, what you learnt on Saturday will benefit you massively as you've got a feel for your car and gained experience on steering and throttle control. :)
you'll progress further if you did a dry day at Teesside, it's the next step! :)
What about just one corner, how does sliding the last corner at Oulton compare with sliding the last right hander at Silverstone? Or in other words, I got the hang of the last corner at Oulton, does that mean it wouldnt be too hard to get the hang of the longer faster corners int he dry at tracks like Silverstone?
Or is it a different ball game all together?
I need someone who knows what theyre doing in the car with me. It took me forever to work out what I was doing wrong at oulton, if I had a drfiter in the car with me then they could have told me what I was doing wrong fromt he start :nod:
I doubt theyll do Oulton in the dry :(
YorkshireRam
15-08-2005, 12:17
well next time we go down, I'll gladly jump in with ya :D I couldn't stay in the afternoon other wise I would have helped out.
the corners are quite similar I suppose, if you take away the speed element, then oulton park needed much finer throttle control, whereas Silverstone is pretty much buried! but you had to be more confident with your counter-steer. :)
I need to get onto a faster track int he dry, I want to drift at speed. Must be quite exciting. Im trying to get to a track day at Elvington but no feckers running a day there for ages :cry:
YorkshireRam
15-08-2005, 12:29
http://www.javelin-motorsport.co.uk/ - a few here in september and october :) I'm going to one of these...
silverstone is quite a bit differant from the pics i saw, you will get an idea at trax, tyr working out how to drift it can be interesting
Bookatrack is a far better prospect if you want to drift because Jonny (who owns the company) loves drifting and does fast rides which consists of 3 very sideways laps. They arent bothered about us doing the same as long as the people who own the airfield arent there watching ;)
www.bookatrack.co.uk
Theyre next day with places in 1st October :cry:
http://www.bookatrack.co.uk/-pV?6
silverstone is quite a bit differant from the pics i saw, you will get an idea at trax, tyr working out how to drift it can be interesting
We were at Silverstone with our drift car at the last round, Ive seen the track :) I was more interested to see if the skills learnt on the tight Oulton park would corss to Silverstone.
Sounds like you've managed to get tha basics of keeping the arse end hanging out as long as you want. :)
Silverstone is 3rd gear, but the principles are the same. You've just gotta be quicker on the steering and throttle control.
[shoots]If they ever let passenger rides anywhere again I'd be more than happy to give you some pointers :) [/foot] :D
Id love you to come out with me and show me the ropes but you live and work in Scotland :wack:
Whens the next practice at Crail?
USSC is on at Crail this Sunday, not sure if there's anything else in September bar the J-Tuner day on the 18th, then after that its every 2 weeks until the middle of December, with the Max Pooer day at the end of Oct.
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid182/p85acb4a3481aba9fe411374577db9c55/f2cb7ae2.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid182/p3aadc32e9da3372c15624777014578b2/f2cb7adb.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid182/pdef75c5099b792bf42014d05391c4aa9/f2cb7adf.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid182/p1530df2c909f855ff4ed58f808e0f3c3/f2cb7adc.jpg
when's the next one????? huh..... huh?? ;)
Sir Nodrick
16-08-2005, 12:54
nice pictures si T, you the man!!
will the organiser of this event PLEASE let me know about the next one, as i did the rally school course on that circuit of oulton park and its perfect for drifting!
See ya soon,
Andy.
cheers Andy
it was organised by a company called Track Action. No new dates on their website yet, I'll be keeping my eye out though
YorkshireRam
16-08-2005, 13:16
yep, trackaction are organising it and there expecting to do two events a month so lots of track time available, I'll give them a bell later in the week and find out. :)
Mofo's my car is working (all be it with another rattle haha) whens the next event ?!
any word on when the next one is going to be??? Ian? nowt on their website yet
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