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Bigtone
18-06-2005, 17:42
nice one Mike :thumbs:

pdh 14a
18-06-2005, 19:50
You on about his dick again tone :confused: :wack:

Buffy
19-06-2005, 00:27
Cheers Tone :thumbs:

I'm still like this :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

GINNO
19-06-2005, 01:23
You on about his dick again tone :confused: :wack:



LOL What the Fcuk is tone on about? :wack:

When I read posts in the Welsh section makes me think sometimes the lot of you are out of in in drugs!! :D

Buffy
19-06-2005, 01:27
I took my car down to Norris Designs yesterday for mapping. Simon spent about 3 hours messing about on his laptop getting my car to go as well as it could.

I'm getting 29.4 psi in higher gears so plenty of air getting in :nod:

on the rollers in around 8 hours so we will see what his magic has done then :thumbs:

GINNO
19-06-2005, 01:29
Holy hell Buffy......I bet it shifts!! Looking nice with you too....look forward to seeing it in the flesh at the next meet

matt_j
19-06-2005, 01:31
I took my car down to Norris Designs yesterday for mapping. Simon spent about 3 hours messing about on his laptop getting my car to go as well as it could.

I'm getting 29.4 psi in higher gears so plenty of air getting in :nod:

on the rollers in around 8 hours so we will see what his magic has done then :thumbs:
wow - good things are afoot mate:thumbs:

Buffy
19-06-2005, 01:31
It does seem to go quite well :nod: :D

I need to wrap the exhaust though as it's so fecking hot the floor above the exhaust is too hot to touch :eek:

BreadBin
19-06-2005, 11:07
:eek: :eek: :eek:
29.4 psi???? fookin 'ell that must be mental!

Chris
19-06-2005, 11:13
:eek: :eek: :eek:
29.4 psi???? fookin 'ell that must be mental!mental enough to scare small children :nod: :whip:

bren
19-06-2005, 14:05
I need to wrap the exhaust though as it's so fecking hot the floor above the exhaust is too hot to touch :eek:

Its interesting you say that. Ive had problems with our manifold giving off so much heat that its melting everything in sight. We have just lagged it, the turbo outlet pipes, the air filter to turbo pipes, and all near coolent and breather pipes.

Our downpipe and front pipe get so hot that all the underseal around that area on the bulkhead and the floor has melted and run away, its just bare paint now! :eek:

I think Im going to lag the front pipe as well. I was going to do it the same time as the manifold but decided against it as I wanted to get some heat out of the system.

Ours ran 370 @ AVA yesterday with 25psi. It will run more boost with no problems :) I know a Cossy that ran 390 on the same rollers but was dynoed at a chunk over 500 so we are in that ball park now :)

Anyways, you must have had it on the rollers by now....and??????? ;)

Buffy
19-06-2005, 17:31
Today was not a great day for going on the rollers :no:

With an ambient temp of 32 degrees :eek: my intake temps went high enough to cause the ignition retard to cut in :( (10degrees) this resulted in me only running 302.5 ATF :cry:

Simons estimate yesterday when we had mapped it was ~420-430

I'll try again on a colder day :)

Chris
19-06-2005, 17:34
Today was not a great day for going on the rollers :no:

With an ambient temp of 32 degrees :eek: my intake temps went high enough to cause the ignition retard to cut in :( (10degrees) this resulted in me only running 302.5 ATF :cry:

Simons estimate yesterday when we had mapped it was ~420-430

I'll try again on a colder day :)

:D :D :D simon says eh :D :D :D ;) :p :smash: :D

Buffy
19-06-2005, 17:36
:finger: :p

Chris
19-06-2005, 17:36
:D :D :D

200sxkids13
19-06-2005, 17:39
shes fooking awsome on the road mike though you should be well chuffed show em the manifold ;)

Buffy
19-06-2005, 17:44
I'm more than happy with the on road performance :nod:

I just wanted a number to brag about :wack:

check my avatar :D

200sxkids13
19-06-2005, 17:45
Post up the big pic mike would love to see it the video footage i took of it was cool as fook :D

Buffy
19-06-2005, 17:46
gett the video up :nod: :thumbs:

200sxkids13
19-06-2005, 17:50
i would but the video camera is ancient as you could see :D oll see what i can do mate go on you know you want to post the big picture, see you also added to the already burnt floor today :D

bren
19-06-2005, 17:56
I was thinking about going to Thor this week for another run, do you fancy it? :)

200sxkids13
19-06-2005, 17:56
ill see if i can do a bodge up for you lol wont have any sound though is that ok? ill try and run it through my didgi cam???

Buffy
19-06-2005, 17:58
I was thinking about going to Thor this week for another run, do you fancy it? :)

Work comitments :cry: other wise yeah I'd be up for it :nod:

The runs are a lot sorter there than interpro from what I've been told so less chance of heat soak buggering up the run :thumbs:

200sxkids13
19-06-2005, 18:10
right ive got something have you got anywhere to host it as i havent sorry :(

Buffy
19-06-2005, 18:12
I haven't got a clue how to drive these damn computer things :no: :wack:

Maybe somebody else could do it :)

200sxkids13
19-06-2005, 18:15
i had to play it on the tv and record it onto my didgi cam :D *bodge* its got no sound and the quality isnt great mind????

200sxkids13
19-06-2005, 18:16
come online and ill send it you its only 2.3 mb

bren
19-06-2005, 18:59
Work comitments :cry: other wise yeah I'd be up for it :nod:

The runs are a lot sorter there than interpro from what I've been told so less chance of heat soak buggering up the run :thumbs:

Have you seen the vid of our run? AVA hold the car at various rev points and get a reading for each point. It ends with the car being held flat out for around 5 seconds with 7500-7800 showing on the rev counter! :eek: Does the job though :)

Buffy
19-06-2005, 19:01
I haven't seen the vid :no:

got a link? :)

bren
19-06-2005, 19:27
http://www.rog.me.uk/SXOC%20RR%20Day%20at%20AVA%20Part%20I.wmv

Our S13 is the last car to run. You dont get to see the final 7500-7800 run as the camera man didnt film it :( However you see how they hold the car at 5 and 6k rpm :)

The car spikes to 2.2ish bar at around 5k rpm so when they ran it upto 5k, held it there (they load the rollers up so they stop the car accelerating at a chosen rpm and its the amount of force the rollers need to apply to stop the revs from climbing which is used to work out the torque being produced rather than the car just reving out as they normally do. They do this at various rpm points to produce a curve) and then floored it to get a power reading the boost gauge needle was bouncing off its stop for 5 seconds! Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, scary sh1t :cry: The car didnt miss a beat though :)

Buffy
19-06-2005, 19:29
Sounds a bit scary :eek:

EWG screaming away would be cool though :D

DLing the vid now :thumbs:

bren
19-06-2005, 19:35
It is scary, listen to the engine straining on the run before the vid stops. And that wasnt the highest reving run. My poor baby :cry: :D At least now I know that itll hold maximum load at 7500rpm for seconds at a time without going pop :wack: :D

Your cars all together now then? You ready for TOTB? :)

Buffy
19-06-2005, 19:35
Thor is only around 125 miles from me :thumbs:

Buffy
19-06-2005, 19:37
I've got a giken set on order but other than that my car is ready :nod:

bren
19-06-2005, 19:40
Cool :) Which Giken set, 3 gear?

Buffy
19-06-2005, 19:41
:no: 5 :D

bren
19-06-2005, 19:44
Really? How much was it? You feeling flush or something ;) Youll love the box, they are awesome :nod:

Mainshaft and input shaft then, yeah?

Buffy
19-06-2005, 19:47
LOL, you know how much they cost :wack:

I got it through RB should be here in the next week or so. I just need to find somebody who has time to be able to build it before TOTB.

One job I don't fancy doing myself :no:

Everything apart from the tail shaft :)

Bigtone
19-06-2005, 19:49
:no: 5 :D
:D :thumbs:

bren
19-06-2005, 19:56
You should have come to me for the box ;)

Did you get the 5 gear Tone?

Bigtone
19-06-2005, 19:59
You should have come to me for the box ;)

Did you get the 5 gear Tone?
indeed I did :nod:

bren
19-06-2005, 20:54
Why? Does ND think 4th and 5th arent strong enough? Didnt Richie just run the first three?

Bigtone
19-06-2005, 21:01
Why? Does ND think 4th and 5th arent strong enough? Didnt Richie just run the first three?
ND has broken 4th and as for 5th duh...long ratio, better top speed :)

Buffy
20-06-2005, 00:13
You should have come to me for the box ;)


I would have if I hadn't already ordered the kit before reading that you were now supplying them :rolleyes: :Plug:

Escy
20-06-2005, 00:22
I've got a giken set on order but other than that my car is ready :nod:

Mike, do you wanna flog one of your spare standard boxes when you've got the giken one?

Buffy
20-06-2005, 00:23
:no:

Phill
20-06-2005, 07:58
Sounds awsome mate.

We've got a rooling road day at Westec on the 2nd of July - they've just had a new set of 4x4 rollers fitted and monster fans etc.

Jez
20-06-2005, 08:06
Good work buffy - it'll be good to see what score you get with some cooler weather :)

That vid sounds painful.

When I mapped the S14a stage 3 chip I worked up the load sites (hold the same revs for long periods) and its surprising how hot everything gets, even with enormous fans. In the end I did up to 4.5krpm and then did the rest on the road...

bren
20-06-2005, 11:32
ND has broken 4th and as for 5th duh...long ratio, better top speed :)

Broke forth in a 200? Which one?

Buffy,

No probs. ;)

Bigtone
20-06-2005, 16:03
Broke forth in a 200? Which one?

4th, dumb arse








:wave: :D

bren
20-06-2005, 16:13
You are such a fecker :p :D

We are ctaching you Tone, you 'aint going to be known as the most powerful S13 for long unless you pull something out of your ass :p We are now around 35bhp off you @ the fly on road fuel and we have another 3-4psi to add, a larger TB and a decent plenum. You need to keep the ball rolling if you want to stay ahead :thumbs:

Bigtone
20-06-2005, 16:21
You are such a fecker :p :D

We are ctaching you Tone, you 'aint going to be known as the most powerful S13 for long unless you pull something out of your ass :p We are now around 35bhp off you @ the fly on road fuel and we have another 3-4psi to add, a larger TB and a decent plenum. You need to keep the ball rolling if you want to stay ahead :thumbs:
so your at 525ish :thumbs: good man :nod: (35 is like night and day :p )
when everything is sorted fancy going to Thor for a shoot out...you, me, Richie, Enigma, Jez and enyone one else with big power

Jez
20-06-2005, 16:22
I'd be up for that - standard pump fuel though - can't be arsed to remap for £2 a litre fuel.

Pointblank might be up for it too :)

Bigtone
20-06-2005, 16:24
I'd be up for that - standard pump fuel though - can't be arsed to remap for £2 a litre fuel.

Pointblank might be up for it too :)
hes got NoS too

Jez
20-06-2005, 16:25
Thats cheating :p
I'm gonna lose, but it'd be good to get together up there at some point :)

bren
20-06-2005, 16:27
so your at 525ish :thumbs: good man :nod: (35 is like night and day :p )
when everything is sorted fancy going to Thor for a shoot out...you, me, Richie, Enigma, Jez and enyone one else with big power

It ran 370@AVA with 26psi. Mike Rainbird ran 395@AVA and 515@fly on a dyno. We should be at Mikes level with full boost so around 515 on a dyno. You ran 550 didnt you?

I know Im always working on X=Y therefore A=B which is annoying but thats all Ive got to go on.

Im very much up for a shootout but only if you run normal fuel. If you run race fuel then theres not a lot of point in a competiton :no:

bren
20-06-2005, 16:28
Thats cheating :p
I'm gonna lose, but it'd be good to get together up there at some point :)

We will be running nos as anti lag :nod:

Bigtone
20-06-2005, 16:28
Thats cheating :p
I'm gonna lose, but it'd be good to get together up there at some point :)
its not about winning or losing (as long as i whip Bren/Richie arses) :wave:

Bigtone
20-06-2005, 16:33
ok you pair of girls I'll run pump gas ;)
but would also like to run race fuel just for comparison

Jez
20-06-2005, 16:34
Trackday shortly afterwards?

Bigtone
20-06-2005, 16:36
Trackday shortly afterwards?
:thumbs:

bren
20-06-2005, 16:37
Well if youre running race fuel............. ;)

Jez
20-06-2005, 16:40
Fecking dyno queens :ghey:

Bigtone
20-06-2005, 16:48
Fecking dyno queens :ghey:
:D

bren
20-06-2005, 16:50
Lol :d

VIDAL BABBOON
20-06-2005, 19:47
Fecking dyno queens :ghey:


LMFAO

Nice to see so many big power cars on the site :nod:

Norris Designs
21-06-2005, 13:12
I think the main point of congratulation that needs to be mentioned is how Buffy has created the hottest 200sx I have ever had the displeasure of sitting in! :D :p It was quite a feat of engineering to turn the car into a 400Hp+ fan assisted (20G) oven!!! :D

Also LittleTone is just a queen not a "dyno queen" :p ;)

Simon :)

SM
21-06-2005, 13:22
Would be nice to see all the big boys at the same RR sometime, proper comparison :D

ade76
21-06-2005, 13:23
Also LittleTone is just a queen not a "dyno queen" :p ;) Simon :)

:thumbs: :nod:

bren
21-06-2005, 14:01
Pointblank seems up for a RR session. We need to grab Enigma, Ben T, Ken etc :nod:

Are we going to run at Thor to get some nice fat results? ;)

Norris Designs
21-06-2005, 14:41
Just for the record I am more than happy to support any of my customers at a potential rolling road shootout at Thor. Just try to ensure I get a couple of weeks notice! :)

Simon :)

Jez
21-06-2005, 14:45
Are we going to run at Thor to get some nice fat results? ;)

:nod: we likes gurt big numbers ;)

Bigtone
21-06-2005, 16:40
Just for the record I am more than happy to support any of my customers at a potential rolling road shootout at Thor. Just try to ensure I get a couple of weeks notice! :)

Simon :)
does that mean you'll be MY bitch for the day....

bren
21-06-2005, 16:50
Just for the record I am more than happy to support any of my customers at a potential rolling road shootout at Thor. Just try to ensure I get a couple of weeks notice! :)

Simon :)

My tuner doesnt need to come to support his customers :p :thumbs:

Theres a couple of boxes of goodies on their way to you, let me know what you think :)

Buffy
21-06-2005, 19:05
I think the main point of congratulation that needs to be mentioned is how Buffy has created the hottest 200sx I have ever had the displeasure of sitting in! :D :p It was quite a feat of engineering to turn the car into a 400Hp+ fan assisted (20G) oven!!! :D

Simon :)

LOL. It does get a touch warm in there :nod: :wack:

How's your foot? Did you manage to get the sock off after melting it? :wack:

Buffy
21-06-2005, 20:10
I found a pic of my bodge on another site :cry:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v217/starlet69/RR%20day%2019%2006%2005/P6191940.jpg

looks better in this pic though :)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v217/starlet69/RR%20day%2019%2006%2005/P6191938.jpg

Bigtone
21-06-2005, 20:17
:D
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v166/bigtone/100_1323.jpg

bren
21-06-2005, 20:21
LOL :D Thats bodgtastic matey :thumbs: :D

But if it does the job.... ;)

ade76
21-06-2005, 20:22
you getting that chromed?

bren
21-06-2005, 20:24
Pmsl :d

Buffy
21-06-2005, 21:08
When I have the new one on I might, it can go on my mantel peice then :wack:

Jez
21-06-2005, 21:31
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v166/bigtone/100_1323.jpg

That is beautiful mate! LOL :D

Whats the verdict on these inlet plenums then? Apart from the fact they don't fit... :rolleyes:

Buffy
21-06-2005, 21:39
pretty good :nod: shortening impoves flow to cylinder 4 as well :cool:

Bigtone
21-06-2005, 21:55
and they look well ard

ade76
21-06-2005, 21:57
and they look well ard

like the dog from eastenders :confused:

Buffy
21-06-2005, 22:01
That is beautiful mate! LOL :D



Cheers mate, took me less than 10 mins as well :wack:

ade76
21-06-2005, 22:04
Cheers mate, took me less than 10 mins as well :wack:

i think you should start selling them on ebay

Buffy
21-06-2005, 22:06
:no: That is a one off Bufco hot pipe, never to be sold anywhere, not even fleabay :wack:

VIDAL BABBOON
21-06-2005, 22:42
:no: That is a one off Bufco hot pipe, never to be sold anywhere, not even fleabay :wack:


LOL

Needs must when you have a rolling road to go to and a pice of boost pipe missing :wack:

Buffy you sure have come a long way since last year ! You have a clean engine bay carbon and a more than 300BHP to match lol

Top job mate im chuffed for you :nod: :thumbs:

Buffy
21-06-2005, 22:47
Thanks Nick :thumbs:

I'll come along to your RR day(SW-CC can pay as they owe me loads) to try and get a real power figure :nod:

Bigtone
21-06-2005, 22:54
cant keep him off them R/R now :p

Buffy
21-06-2005, 22:55
I need a decent power figure to put in my page :nod:

ade76
21-06-2005, 22:57
make one up :nod:

Bigtone
21-06-2005, 22:57
pluck one out of the sky...others have

Buffy
21-06-2005, 22:58
make one up :nod:

Like you LMAO :smash:

Butuz
21-06-2005, 22:58
Yeh its great thats buffy managed to do what he has done so much hard work and so much tesco value beans ;)

Congrats mike!

I cant wait to see it in the flesh, and have a ride in it :D

Butuz

ade76
21-06-2005, 22:59
Like you LMAO :smash:

i wont be far off actually ;)

Buffy
21-06-2005, 23:00
£20 says you don't get more than 230

ade76
21-06-2005, 23:01
at the fly?

Buffy
21-06-2005, 23:02
:nod:

Bigtone
21-06-2005, 23:06
£20 says you don't get more than 230
if your talking about who I think your talking about...
I'll have some of that.....

Buffy
22-06-2005, 23:16
All quiet on the womble front :confused: :wack:

PsYcHeS
23-06-2005, 01:22
powerflow have seen your pipe mate and want to know how you got the welds so neat and seamless compared to most of theirs?!

VIDAL BABBOON
23-06-2005, 18:14
powerflow have seen your pipe mate and want to know how you got the welds so neat and seamless compared to most of theirs?!


Next they will be asking for flow characteristics :wack: