Why do people always say?

[def]

Why do people when your telling them about a good drift car drifting good always come back with the obvious comment "Why bother when you can drive quicker by taking the line proper innit" :rolleyes: :annoyed: :annoyed: :rant:

Normally 4x4 drivers but hear this at every venue were its not just about drifting like coombe.

Not that i could drift without crashing to my doom but ive attended a fair few drift days and from what ive seen it takes bags of skill and the odd fluke :)

[Matt_T]

some people seem to have difficulty grasping the concept of doing something purely for the fun of it. But then its not like regular old trackdays etc give prizes to the fastest driver, so maybe they're just a bit thick?

[Drift Junkie]

yes, but with drifting, u can get sideways early, and block them from overtaking slowing them down more than yourself then leaving them in your mirrors :)

[Butuz]

The thing is - theyre right. If you didnt drift, and if you didnt have your car set up for drift, you could go round whatever track faster.

But wheres the fun in that? :p

As for blocking - get the advans burning till no one else within a mile can see sh1t - thats your line protected :D

Butuz

[Parker]

4x4 driving is all about getting round the course, not neccessarily going as fast as you can either.

I'm sure that they'll get their heads around it sooner or later. The Japfest crowd and marshalls did :D

[Ste00]

i drive a 4x4 and have a s13 and most the 4x4 ppl i know like to sort of do donuts in the mud and get the back end out round islands (insane when u consider the weight of the toyota surf...) so maybee they have got it already :P

[Escy]

i was following an EsCos before and i didn't realise just how side ways they were able to go. he could go propper broadside around roundabouts and corners, all 4 wheels spinning like crazy, i was well impressed with that (especially the part where he backed off a bit to allow it to grip and just flew off down the road - no fishtailing crap for him).

i've also seen videos of Scooby's and Evo's drifting.

[Matt_T]

i've also seen videos of Scooby's and Evo's drifting.

don't start that again. 4 wheel drives can't drift. its impossible. end of story.

[ATrull]

they can, they just need bigger steel cahoonas, and it's best done on dirt rallys :D

[ATrull]

but for the sake of 'drift' competition stuff, I'll agree with Matt T- the only scoob I've ever seen do that was a rwd-setup one in the recent jp d1.. it was more an oddity than anything else.

[Draven]

doesnt touge (sp?) drift racing also allow you to carry a lot more speed on the corners with faster exits, its just not used regularly because it annihilates tyres

[andyf]

Fastest way through a corner is with neutral understeer/oversteer, maybe having the back tyres 1% over their adhesion limits. or so

If drifting were faster, numerous track racing organisations would use it.

[ATrull]

Fastest way through a corner is with neutral understeer/oversteer, maybe having the back tyres 1% over their adhesion limits. or so

If drifting were faster, numerous track racing organisations would use it.

Thats more or less entirely true for tarmac track racing :)

but in rallying I'm sure you know it's not.

[Sibbers]

underpowered cars can bennefit on tracks times by drifting on occasion, you can save having to wait to get back in the powerband by keeping the wheels spinning while you save time losing speed into corners drifting instead of breaking. FWD rally cars do it quite a bit too with the old flick trick. edit - yeah, alex exactly m8 :)

on topic though, those people are just n00bs - driving cars is fun, competetive or both and I'd say those types you describe are competetive... pure drifters are usually in it for the fun. :)

[sdtouge]

drifting may not always be faster but its really fun:)


if any of you have tried gymkana (sp?) its a really tight course, and drifting is by far faster.

thre will be 1 cone that you hve to do a 360 around, maybe a figure 8 then a chicane or something liek that so its relly tight, and gripping would be far slower and "inferior " lol


i think the tighter turns would be faster for drift.

drifting could be faster if doen properly, but the chance of spining out or getting understeer is great and ould probably cost some seconds of messed up so people just dont take the chance.