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bren
31-03-2005, 23:08
Im going to the Spa Francochamps track in Belgium this year. Its supposed to be an absolutely fantastic track, everyone who goes just raves on about how good it is. Heres a lap inside a Prelude. Dont think 'pah, Prelude', you should see this guy drive! :eek:

http://www.bookatrack.co.uk/-PFrichyv235319322?richyv&2353&19322&video/x-ms-wmv

The track day is £225. Details here:

http://www.bookatrack.co.uk/-pV?34

Theyre on the 24th and 25th of August. Anyone interested?

AntS13
01-04-2005, 08:50
Im really interested Bren, I love that track,

Its just doubts on wether the 13 will get there and back in one peice

SM
01-04-2005, 09:41
Intrested :D
Have to work out the travel costs, but August is 3 months after May (JapFest) so it falls within my "1 trackday every 2 months" budget, the extra month helping with the extra cost.

I'll think about it.

twinturboch
01-04-2005, 09:52
I went in September 2003 and it was an absolute blast, there is absolutely nothing like flying through Au Rouge at 120mph, it is scary as fcuk :eek: Go go go :) I'm thinking I might but don't know for sure yet, I don't want to commit to too many events this year :)

PhatBob
01-04-2005, 12:08
I'll say yes.

Then something will happen and I'll have to pull out, but I'll provisionally go for it.
Like everytime I try to go to Santa Pod!
Rob

SM
13-04-2005, 19:32
I've tried to convince Jez - getting there, but need some Help Bren.

Jez
13-04-2005, 19:33
ha ha - really don't fancy driving my car that far... I'll mull it over... :)

SteA
14-04-2005, 20:39
Right, I really want to do this :thumbs: that looks amazing.... the trip will be spot on too, 200sx european road trip anyone :D

We are supposed to be going away on holiday over that period but I'm hoping with a little grovelling, crawling and psychological warfare I can persuade the wife otherwise :nod:

As soon as she gets home from work, I am going to have a word ;)

Jez, you know it makes sense :p ;)

SM
14-04-2005, 21:09
Its 250 miles from Folkstone to Spa.
Its 160 miles from Rotterdam.
I think Bren said there was a package for £95 ferry/camping fees you can take, I'm unsure of what ferry journey that was. Its a cheap for me to travel more miles and a longer drive but I dont mind paying for the extra ferry to drive less.

Monday 18th and Tuesday 19th October 2004 - we're back to the awsome Spa-Francorchamps F1 circuit in Belgium for 2 days open pit lane track time. Caterham Superlights are available on both days and we can even transport your car and collect you from the airport.
Noise Limits: Unrestricted

http://www.spa-francorchamps.be/gfx/track/aerienne1.jpg

SteA
14-04-2005, 21:26
Yahoo :D

She wasnt exactly keen, but I've convinced the wife it will be fun...... So I'm going :nod:

Bren, Kev, I notice your names arent down yet, when are you booking? I'll book as soon as I know you're definitely going :thumbs: looks like we need to book quickly, there are already a lot of cars booked.

Whats that package, ferry, camping etc? Who's booking what journey wise because it will obviously be cool to travel together ;)

SM
14-04-2005, 22:06
Bren, Kev, I notice your names arent down yet, when are you booking? I'll book as soon as I know you're definitely going :thumbs: looks like we need to book quickly, there are already a lot of cars booked.

Whats that package, ferry, camping etc? Who's booking what journey wise because it will obviously be cool to travel together ;)
Still in planning stages, but I think this is doable for me, wait till end of the month and I'll be ready to book. I might leave a couple of days afterwards for a coupel of nights somewhere, maybe Amsterdam if the Rotterdam ferry was chose for Bren and Jez's non-touring machines :whip:

Jez
14-04-2005, 22:09
Stopping off at Amsterdam would be cool. Maybe get some one the sxoc.nl boys along?

SteA
14-04-2005, 22:14
Still in planning stages, but I think this is doable for me, wait till end of the month and I'll be ready to book. I might leave a couple of days afterwards for a coupel of nights somewhere, maybe Amsterdam if the Rotterdam ferry was chose for Bren and Jez's non-touring machines :whip:

It doesnt say how many places are left, do you have any idea if its nearly full or not??? Kev, if you are only waiting till you get paid before booking i would be happy to book it for you and you pay me later ;)

Couple of nights staying after would be very cool :thumbs:

SteA
14-04-2005, 22:16
Stopping off at Amsterdam would be cool. Maybe get some one the sxoc.nl boys along?

Does this mean you have been persuaded :thumbs:

Stopping off somewhere would be good, and it would make my lovely wife happy...... and if we could meet up with the sxoc.nl guys even better. Amsterdam for a couple of days? Somewhere else?

SM
14-04-2005, 22:22
Stopping off at Amsterdam would be cool. Maybe get some one the sxoc.nl boys along?
HeHe have you been tempted :thumbs:

Good Plan.
http://www.sxoc.nl/forum/index.php?act=ST&f=3&t=9897

CraZyMoFo
27-04-2005, 12:46
Ste, is the Wife going with you then?

if not .... Can I provisionally call shotgun?

It would be rude not to stop off in the Dam on the way through :nod:

SM
27-04-2005, 13:13
Mrs A is going AFAIK.
I could probably take you though, just dont know how many wheels I'll take for 'ring and Spa & camping stuff :eek:

TomM
27-04-2005, 13:19
I'm up for this :)

I'm getting quotes of ~£70 for Dover-Calais overnight the Friday before, and ~£112 for Ijmuiden (near the 'Dam) to Newcastle (inc an economy cabin) the Saturday afterwards.

I might make a week of it :)


This map (http://www.multimap.com/map/browse.cgi?client=public&X=600000&Y=6400000&width=500&height=300&gride=&gridn=&srec=0&coordsys=mercator&db=&addr1=&addr2=&addr3=&pc=&advanced=&local=&localinfosel=&kw=&inmap=&table=&ovtype=&zm=0&scale=4000000&up.x=193&up.y=4) shows the distances involved. Spa is near Malmédy (bottom centre of the map).

SteA
27-04-2005, 20:09
Ste, is the Wife going with you then?

if not .... Can I provisionally call shotgun?

It would be rude not to stop off in the Dam on the way through :nod:


Wife is coming :nod: or she is as it stands :thumbs: buuuut, she is more than happy to travel in the back as she is only small ;) in case you cant fit in with kev and his tyre mountain......

SteA
27-04-2005, 20:12
I'm up for this :)

I'm getting quotes of ~£70 for Dover-Calais overnight the Friday before, and ~£112 for Ijmuiden (near the 'Dam) to Newcastle (inc an economy cabin) the Saturday afterwards.

I might make a week of it :)


This map (http://www.multimap.com/map/browse.cgi?client=public&X=600000&Y=6400000&width=500&height=300&gride=&gridn=&srec=0&coordsys=mercator&db=&addr1=&addr2=&addr3=&pc=&advanced=&local=&localinfosel=&kw=&inmap=&table=&ovtype=&zm=0&scale=4000000&up.x=193&up.y=4) shows the distances involved. Spa is near Malmédy (bottom centre of the map).

Sounds cool. We're up for a week as well ;) , we are both off the weeks surrounding the trip :D

Do you all think it may be worth getting spa booked and then have a good hunt for best ferries etc.... I wouldnt want it to book up :eek:

MeLLoN Stu
27-04-2005, 20:14
would definately be up for this :nod: unfortunately i'll be at sea :(

SM
27-04-2005, 20:22
FOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOK

Looked at the list, both dates are near enough FULL, were going to have to book and pay FAST if we want in .... I'm still only 75% I can afford it :eek: Theres about the same again in provisional bookings :cry:

SteA
27-04-2005, 20:42
I'm ready to book now as long as others are :nod: I had a feeling this might happen... tell me when someone else is actually going to book and I will book straight away :thumbs:

SteA
27-04-2005, 20:46
And are we doing the wednesday or thursday :wack: wednesday I thought, but just checking we are all of the same opinion.....

SM
27-04-2005, 20:53
I thought Wednesday, give Jez, if he is fully convinced, time to get back for the wedding on the 27th.

TomM
27-04-2005, 20:54
Yeah hum. I'll book as long as other people will :wack:

Who else has booked?

And Wednesday or Thursday? I'd vote for Wednesday, so we could spend a few days pootling back through Belgium/France, wine and cheese-tasting :)

SteA
27-04-2005, 21:31
Right, I've booked and paid for the Wednesday :thumbs: get booking :p

Have you seen that they offer to take 4 wheels and tyres (there and back) and fit them for you for only £30 :eek: it comes up as an option when you pay... I will ring them tomorrow to double check its ok for spa, but I think I will take them up on that :)

TomM
27-04-2005, 21:33
Right. I've booked. :D

The good news: you can pay a 50% deposit, and then the balance up to 14 days beforehand. So Kev has no excuse now :)

The bad news: according to the secretary ( ;) ) I'm at a bloody wedding in Ireland the weekend before. So it will be a hell of a rush to get to a ferry-port for Sunday night, or maybe Monday morning. So I might miss out on some SXOC 'Dam-related fun :( :( :( :mad: :(

SM
27-04-2005, 21:39
Still £113, I cant even afford the other £49 for Elvington I've booked until 21st next month. And for some reason I've just bought some 555's, ok £163 but FFS why did I get them this month :wack: :smash:
An its more affording the tyres/ferry/trip, I'll get busy with the calculator and decide by the weekend.

TomM
28-04-2005, 10:55
Who's booked then? :)

bren
28-04-2005, 10:56
What days are you planning on going to the Nurburgring?

bren
28-04-2005, 11:04
Ive booked SPA :)

Our planned quick trip to SPA seems to have extended into a blast round Europe though. Not sure if I want to do so many miles in our S13, its a dedicated track car, its not a cross European tourer :no:

Kev,

I can sort some work if you want it :) Easy stuff, just web work :)

SM
28-04-2005, 11:54
Kev,
I can sort some work if you want it :) Easy stuff, just web work :)
I've just been pimped :eek:
But at least I've booked Spa, and a week off work :thumbs: :smitten: :clap: :cool:
http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=17645&stc=1

bren
28-04-2005, 11:54
Yey :D

SM
28-04-2005, 12:10
What days are you planning on going to the Nurburgring?
Well Monday 21st its Open 13.00 to 19:00
19/20th is open all weekend, but a bike weekend
Open in the evening Tuesday

Can I suggest we have the weekend in Amsterdam (those who want to)
Then Monday at the Ring, with Tuesday Eve as a backup in case the Fog is still following Bren ;)
Wednesday is the trackday at Spa
Thursday homeward.

I might look at Thursday - Thursday Ferries and have Thurs/Fri/Sat night in 'Dam. Sunday off to the ring, Tuesday to travel to Spa.

How does that fit with peoples plans ?

SteA
28-04-2005, 12:10
Its coming together :thumbs:

Looking at the area around and on the way to Spa looks pretty nice to say the least... nice food, nice wine.... but shame about the dodgy company :wack:

We just need to start agreeing dates/timetable etc, but if we are paying for the ferry, travelling etc it would be rude not to make a holiday of it ;) I'm getting excited :D

Bren, make sure your new man whore behaves :whip:

SteA
28-04-2005, 12:12
Well Monday 21st its Open 13.00 to 19:00
19/20th is open all weekend, but a bike weekend
Open in the evening Tuesday

Can I suggest we have the weekend in Amsterdam (those who want to)
Then Monday at the Ring, with Tuesday Eve as a backup in case the Fog is still following Bren ;)
Wednesday is the trackday at Spa
Thursday homeward.

I might look at Thursday - Thursday Ferries and have Thurs/Fri/Sat night in 'Dam. Sunday off to the ring, Tuesday to travel to Spa.

How does that fit with peoples plans ?

Well, tom is at a wedding the first weekend, so how about spending time somewhere after spa?

liquidsmoke
28-04-2005, 12:13
how quickly do these tend to sell out? I'd really like to go, butit'll be a while until i have some cash to do it... I finnish my uni degree on 13th may, then i need to find a job doing something asap...

PhatBob
28-04-2005, 12:20
How does that fit with peoples plans ?

I'm going to try and fit in my ittinery with the plans that are made, I dont think we're going to be up for the 'Dam and I did enough camping a few years ago so its B&Bs for me and Mrs Phat Bob. So once I know what your doing I'll book my activities to fit in.

Rob

Jez
28-04-2005, 12:25
I'm really temped - but as Bren said, I don't want to have to drive around Europe in my car - it hurts.

bren
28-04-2005, 12:31
Jez has a wedding the weekend after SPA I believe.

Im not interested in three days in Amsterdam. The place bores me to be frank. One night would be enough for me. Maybe we could meet you guys there Sat night :)

If the rings open Monday all day then Id like to get to where we are staying Sunday evening so we have a full day on the Monday :)

Then on from the Nurburgring Tuesday to stay at SPA Tuesday night ready for the track day Wednesday.

bren
28-04-2005, 12:32
You drive straight past SPA to get to the Ring so its not like the two venues are out of the way of each other. I think it was 1100 miles round trip for us but itll be less this time as we are going Hull - Rotterdam (sp.).

Can we sort a list of who is free when:

Bren + Ann free whenever

Jez
28-04-2005, 12:38
I got a wedding on the 27th so have to be back home on the 26th latest.

I'd be up for meeting on the Sunday to get somewhere near the ring for Monday, do the ring, then drive somewhere near Spa on Tues ready for trackday on Weds, then kip over Weds night and come home Thursday.

bren
28-04-2005, 12:46
I got a wedding on the 27th so have to be back home on the 26th latest.

I'd be up for meeting on the Sunday to get somewhere near the ring for Monday, do the ring, then drive somewhere near Spa on Tues ready for trackday on Weds, then kip over Weds night and come home Thursday.

Sounds like a plan :nod:

Jez
28-04-2005, 12:50
:nod:

So where we going to meet on the Sunday? How are we going to book accomodation up - individually?

SM
28-04-2005, 13:04
I'll look for camping near 'ring for Sunday night, and ask who wants it booking. If anybody wants to find somewhere and book thats fine by me. Sunday/monday night, also tues/wed night near Spa.

I dont mind being in Amsterdam on my own for the weekend, thurs-thursday ferries are quite cheap and I know of an excelelnt turn-up and camp place in 'Dam
I think if we say the "core" of the trip is Sunday night meet at 'ring, then Spa, and the days either side people can sight-see if they want while they are already there.

SteA
28-04-2005, 13:39
I'll look for camping near 'ring for Sunday night, and ask who wants it booking. If anybody wants to find somewhere and book thats fine by me. Sunday/monday night, also tues/wed night near Spa.

I dont mind being in Amsterdam on my own for the weekend, thurs-thursday ferries are quite cheap and I know of an excelelnt turn-up and camp place in 'Dam
I think if we say the "core" of the trip is Sunday night meet at 'ring, then Spa, and the days either side people can sight-see if they want while they are already there.

We are free whenever, definitely do want to spend a few days somewhere, would be up for going the weekend before or whenever :thumbs:

bren
28-04-2005, 13:47
Theres not a lot to do round the Nurgurgring so if youre wanting to do the touristy bit then Id stay somewhere else on the way :)

mrwookie
28-04-2005, 14:35
My 200 should be on top form by then so hell yea Im up for this as well :nod:

SteA
28-04-2005, 14:46
My 200 should be on top form by then so hell yea Im up for this as well :nod:

Get it booked fella :thumbs:

bren
28-04-2005, 15:34
If you dotn book it now then you wont be going to SPA :no:

SM
28-04-2005, 16:10
If you dotn book it now then you wont be going to SPA :no:
Yep, Bren is 100% right, looking at the list I'd give you a week at most to book and pay 50% of the cost of the trackday.

Bren/Jez
Its not that many miles on the rotterdam side for your bouncy, noisy S13's.
Even if you go via Amsterdam its only 480miles, split this into 4 journeys Rotter-Dam, Dam-Ring, ring-Spa, Spa-rott and You should be fine. Its less than going to Silverstone and back in a day, but split over a week.

I've been informed Super is about 1.05€ but Bren should be able to confirm this.

http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=17652&stc=1

bren
28-04-2005, 16:13
I dont know how much SUper is, the Jag gets lumped with cheapo 95 octane :thumbs:

mrwookie
28-04-2005, 17:18
HMMM. I think ive hit a snag. This was going to be my first proper track day and track days require that you wear a helemt? Right? Well the problem Ive got is im not going to fit in my car wearing a helmet Im 6ft9in as it is and fitting in is a problem now with out a helmet. Any ideas before I attack my car with tip opener??

bren
28-04-2005, 17:22
Youll have to drive with the back of the seat at a silly angle, chav style.

mrwookie
28-04-2005, 17:43
Ill be almost horizontal :eek: I have to try some different sitting styles tonight!! :nod:

bren
28-04-2005, 17:49
On a serious light I also have problems with my head hitting the roof with a helmet on (Im not as tall as you but our seats sit higher than the originals) and Ive fitted a steering wheel extender to bring the wheels closer to me so when I lay the seat down I can reach it better :)

mrwookie
28-04-2005, 18:01
Question for you bren. I dont actually own my own helmet for track days so where is the best place to get one from?? Do you guys stock them??

bren
28-04-2005, 18:05
We can do helmets, you just need ot measure the circumference of your head (round your forehead) and let me know if you want open or full face and I can get you a list of options :)

mrwookie
28-04-2005, 18:13
Cheers bren Ill pm you later this evening :thumbs:

driftking
28-04-2005, 18:31
NO NO NO NO NO NO!!!!!

I hate you all. :annoyed:

I am going to end up booking this but i can't really afford it and can't really spaer the time off work.

Grrr, evil sxco bb. :mad:























See you at the ring then :rolleyes:

I think i'll go with Jez's plan, but get an early chunnel on monday morning to get to the ring for lunch time, do the ring, then drive somewhere near Spa on Tues ready for trackday on Weds, then kip over Weds night and come home Thursday. :nod: The 'Dam doesn't really interest me either, must be getting old. :(

mrwookie
28-04-2005, 18:48
Well Ive gone and done it!! :nod: Im booked up now so theres no going back. May need to be shoehorned out of the car after I have wedged my self in with my helmet on. :wack:

SM
28-04-2005, 18:52
Updated the Dutch guys on our plans / bookings.

http://www.sxoc.nl/forum/index.php?act=ST&f=3&t=9897&st=0#entry138673

EDIT

Yoda's Back ;)

http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=17661&stc=1

List of whose has Booked.

Bren & Ann
Tomm & Vanessa
SteA & Wife
SM
Mr Wookie

Thinking of booking (need to be quick)
Jez
Driftking
PhatBob & Mrs Phat

SteA
28-04-2005, 20:14
This truly will be the trip of the year :D

Euro road trip with a group of modded 200's and sxer's in the height of summer, a day at the ring :notworthy and, and.... a day blatting around spa :D :D :cool:

Rearrange the following into an appropriate sentence.....


Died. Heaven. And. To. Gone. Feel. I. Like. Have. I. :D

Mr wookie, you could always put a functional roof vent in ;)

driftking
28-04-2005, 20:21
:mad: Grrr, Kev, don't do that!

SM
28-04-2005, 20:38
Who? Me?
Blame Yoda, Wise master intune with the force, listen to him !!
(or at least Bren for starting the thread)

Ste, you missed Amsterdam ;) or maybe the peeps talking their better halves would prefer Brussels ;)

SteA
28-04-2005, 20:42
Who? Me?
Blame Yoda, Wise master intune with the force, listen to him !!
(or at least Bren for starting the thread)

Ste, you missed Amsterdam ;) or maybe the peeps talking their better halves would prefer Brussels ;)

I'm easy (I've not given the wife any choices either :wack: ), but from the foggy days of my youth I seem to recall that brussels was far more entertaining than amsterdam :thumbs:

SM
28-04-2005, 20:50
Now that we've booked ....

I'm planning on taking a full spare set of wheels with Semi-Slicks for the trackdays (R888's or whatever, probably leave that to Bren with a budget), as well as wet-track suitable tyres to drive there (ie new Good Year F1's) 2 full sets of brake pads :eek: just in case ;) I know I'll need 1 set between 'ring and Spa even if they are only 20% worn after 6-10 laps of the 'ring. I'm going to try and not do anymore than that, somebody stop me if it looks like I'll do 40 :rolleyes: Feel free to be violent :wack: 5L oil, and normal trackday tools as well as the weeks worth of camping stuff.

Is that inline with everyone else, or daft ?

bren
28-04-2005, 21:06
I was thinking similar but was going to add a load of tools but arent sure what to do with them at the ring?

driftking
28-04-2005, 21:10
Nothing i guess... Chain them to a post and hope...

bren
28-04-2005, 21:19
Or allocate someone to look after them whilst everyone else goes for a lap. We could do a rota system :)

SM
28-04-2005, 21:55
Or allocate someone to look after them whilst everyone else goes for a lap. We could do a rota system :)
I doubt everyone will be out at the same time, and I'm sure to save driving laps we will swap around and passenger each other, leaving at least a car to put stuff in. We all wont need to take all the tools, we'll make a list and not bring too many of everything.

2/3 jacks and 2/3 sockets sets between us, nobody need take both.
2/3 air compressors & .
1 lot of brake fluid and bleeder
1 Bag of Zip ties
2 rolls of tape
1 Set of S14 Turbo gaskets :wack:
1 Set of S13 Big Ends :whip:
1 Wideband
Euro Recovery for all of us ....

SteA
28-04-2005, 22:38
Now that we've booked ....

I'm planning on taking a full spare set of wheels with Semi-Slicks for the trackdays (R888's or whatever, probably leave that to Bren with a budget), as well as wet-track suitable tyres to drive there (ie new Good Year F1's) 2 full sets of brake pads :eek: just in case ;) I know I'll need 1 set between 'ring and Spa even if they are only 20% worn after 6-10 laps of the 'ring. I'm going to try and not do anymore than that, somebody stop me if it looks like I'll do 40 :rolleyes: Feel free to be violent :wack: 5L oil, and normal trackday tools as well as the weeks worth of camping stuff.

Is that inline with everyone else, or daft ?

Sounds about right... although I am going to see if bookatrack will take my spare set of wheels.......... :thumbs:

I wont use much of anything on the ring, gonna have fun but stay well within my capabilities......

I think I will definitely need spare pads for spa though :thumbs:

CraZyMoFo
28-04-2005, 22:58
Or allocate someone to look after them whilst everyone else goes for a lap. We could do a rota system :)

If I end up coming along as a passanger ... I'll look after them :)
As long as someone takes me for a spin around both the tracks at some point .... :D

mrwookie
28-04-2005, 23:17
Why dont we combine between us and just have one set of tools for everyone??Will save space in the long run?? Just an idea :confused: :wack: Roof vent it is then :wack:

SM
29-04-2005, 06:10
Why dont we combine between us and just have one set of tools for everyone??
Thats what I posted above, oh and wookie, get Lennie to book ;)

bren
29-04-2005, 08:02
Why do we need 3 socket sets? And 3 jacks and 3 compressors?

Ill bring:

Windy gun
Socket set
Spanner set
Spare pads etc in case anyone needs them.

SM
29-04-2005, 08:23
Why do we need 3 socket sets? And 3 jacks and 3 compressors?We dont need 1 each, 2 between us would be fine, that was my point otherwise we'll end up with 6 jacks and socket sets.

Bren, well everyone, kick Jez up the arse and get him to book.

bren
29-04-2005, 11:14
Isnt it exciting! Should be a real ball :D :cool:

twinturboch
29-04-2005, 11:44
Why do we need 3 socket sets? And 3 jacks and 3 compressors?

Ill bring:

Windy gun
Socket set
Spanner set
Spare pads etc in case anyone needs them.
Good idea. You will defo need to take spare pads as my last trip proved. I had new front and rear discs and pads changed a week before I went to Spa, I drove to the 'Dam, then to Spa and by 2:45pm my rear brake pads were down to nothing and had worn a grove in the discs. I had to drive the whole journey home with my rear brakes squeaking :wack:
This is soooooo tempting. :nod:
I might do it the other way around, go to the 'Dam and the ring but miss Spa. :D
But that won't work, I'll end up pissed off at missing Spa. Damn you all!! :wack:

twinturboch
29-04-2005, 12:57
Shit! :rolleyes: Now I've gone and done it :annoyed: :wack:
I like the way they put us all at the top :D

TomM
29-04-2005, 13:18
I'll have a look at the distances involved, but I might not come to the 'Ring with all of you. After all, it will be pushing it to get to Holland by Monday, given the wedding on Saturday, so I'll miss out on the 'Dam anyway.

I might spend Monday-Wednesday pootling down through Holland & Belgium with the missus, camping, and then meet all of you at Spa. I'll aim to be self-sufficient with tools and parts. I'll probably then spend Thursday-Saturday pootling back through France to Calais.

Kev: I'm not sure you'll make much of a saving by going Thursday-Thursday rather than weekend-weekend - the ferries seem quite reasonably priced anyway.

SM
29-04-2005, 13:28
Kev: I'm not sure you'll make much of a saving by going Thursday-Thursday rather than weekend-weekend - the ferries seem quite reasonably priced anyway.
Maybe, I'm just convincing myself I can have a full week away at no extra cost :rolleyes.

SM
29-04-2005, 23:51
Cheap Ferries found ;)
£48 return, whatever date I tried , some times seem more (middle of day) £68.
Dover - Boulogne, then 300mile round trip Nurburg/Spa about £30 in gas for me ;) Bit bad for Amsterdam though :(

http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=17722&stc=1

SteA
29-04-2005, 23:58
Cheap Ferries found ;)
£48 return, whatever date I tried , some times seem more (middle of day) £68.
Dover - Boulogne, then 300mile round trip Nurburg/Spa about £30 in gas for me ;) Bit bad for Amsterdam though :(

http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=17722&stc=1

Cool, TBH Amsterdam aint all that, lots of cities in belgium are much nicer ;)

bren
30-04-2005, 07:47
Cool, TBH Amsterdam aint all that, lots of cities in belgium are much nicer ;)

Its a dodgy hole if you ask me, a pimped Blackpool on weed but twice the price with less to do.

SM
30-04-2005, 10:26
I've been a few times, but not for a few years, I can live without going, but when I'm close a couple of days there is nice, different. And remember kids ... "When is Rome, do as the Romans". When in Amsterdam, Get Amsterdamaged :wack:

SteA
30-04-2005, 15:18
Right, I'm thinking we are going to book the ferry for the friday night on the way there and for saturday night on the way back, should have plenty of opportunity for pootling around ;) I think we will use speed ferries....

Will be up for whatever the first weekend, and after spa do you mind if we join you tom and anyone else who fancies a leisurely trip back :thumbs:

Just bought a decent digital camcorder for the trip too :thumbs:

SM
30-04-2005, 15:51
Remember no Camera's at the 'ring, or get one with vid in to use with stealth bullet camera. I might buy one, we'll see how funds are I have been offered one to loan, but to be honest its a lot to loan off somebody for a week; some people are too generous though.

SM
01-05-2005, 02:20
For an AA member, 1 week, 1 person

£41-50, if you find a better quote please shout.

PhatBob
02-05-2005, 21:44
Cool, TBH Amsterdam aint all that, lots of cities in belgium are much nicer ;)

I lived in Leuven (The home of Stella Artios) for a while, excellent place. I'm thinking of stopping off there on the way.

Rob

SM
03-05-2005, 12:45
I could probably take you (Greg) though, just dont know how many wheels I'll take for 'ring and Spa & camping stuff :eek:
Now lookign unlikely, I think Bridget will come out with me for the "holiday" bit then catch a cheap flight home before the trackdays. Tried to persude her to have the full week but she is scared I think :wack: and a long weekend is easy with Flexi-Time.
Its not like she doesnt like motorsport, lucky b1tch is currently in Barca for a week and catching all 3 days of the F1 next weekend. She is also hoping to be at at least 1 other F1 race this year and went to Hockenhiem last year as well as a few BTCC races. In fact she saw more live motorsport than me last year.

SM
04-05-2005, 07:59
anybody found any camping that looks suitable yet?
The weekend before Nurburgring you have Sat - (push)Bike round the ring, and sunday RUN round the ring ... so it migth be worth getting Sunday evening booked soonish.
http://www.rad-am-ring.de/main.php

http://www.nurburgring.org.uk/
http://www.camping-am-nuerburgring.de/

http://www.spa-francorchamps.be/en/index2.html

driftking
04-05-2005, 19:41
Hi guys,
This is going to be a no no for me unforunatley.

The car is about to go pop if i keep hurtling round fast race tracks, i can feel it in me bones. It took a bit of a hammering at rockingham on monday, and fractured the water feed to the turbo, requiring aa assistance to get home. :rolleyes: Gearbox is just about fecked and i've got the GT circuit at Bedford next saturday then japfest the weekend after.
I don't really want to get stranded at the ring. (not that its a bad place to get stranded thou :D )

So i think i'll give it a miss. :cry:

Once again, video will be posted when i get web space stuff etc etc... :annoyed: :rolleyes:

mrwookie
05-05-2005, 11:05
Things are rather sh1t for me at the mo :( and everything is going wrong at the mo including my car so sorry but I have pulled out. Sorry guys :(

SM
05-05-2005, 12:57
I asked on book-a-track if anybody had any recent info on local camping facilities, first hand info is much better than website info.

Camping Am Nurburgring is a huge place right next to the circuit. You can't book a pitch there but its never full except on GP weekend, where the Hermans come up 2 or 3 weeks earlier and park their caravans and then go home again.

Shower blocks are good, recently renovated and firewood can be bought on site.
There is an off road moto-x course there if you're into bikes or quads.

You'll get woken up in the morning either to the sound of testing on the F1 circuit or the German Airforce doing flybys.

driftking
05-05-2005, 19:39
You'll get woken up in the morning either to the sound of testing on the F1 circuit or the German Airforce doing flybys..

Not a bad way to be woken up! :cool:

bren
05-05-2005, 19:43
Sounds good.

Jez
25-05-2005, 09:31
Just booked my Spa place :D

Whats the plan then?
Whos found the best European breakdown cover?
To be honest I'd rather not camp, anyone up for staying in B&Bs?
Who traveling from where? I'd rather meet up with someone in the UK and get the ferry with them over to the mainland - would be dead bored on my own...

twinturboch
25-05-2005, 09:45
Just booked my Spa place :D

Whats the plan then?
Whos found the best European breakdown cover?
To be honest I'd rather not camp, anyone up for staying in B&Bs?
Who traveling from where? I'd rather meet up with someone in the UK and get the ferry with them over to the mainland - would be dead bored on my own...
Same here. I'm not too sure on the Dam, I'm thinking just the 'Ring and Spa :nod: I might go 'Dam if others are going but I won't go on me tod. I'm not fussed whether camping or B&Bing as I have a PHAT tent :nod: or B&B's are cheap anyway. I must say, I camped at Spa in Sep 2003 and it was feckin freezing so that may sway me. :D I'll be travelling to Dover from Bromley, not sure on which ferry destination yet though as Calais is easier but Boulogne is cheaper, but I wouldn't mind making the journey with someone else to make it more interesting.

Jez
25-05-2005, 09:47
B&Bs and Dover are good for me. I'm not that fussed about Amsterdam either. Spa and the ring with be coooool!

My AA breakdown cover is going to be ~£75 cos my car is more than 11 years old :(

Anyone got any idea how much car insurance will be?

twinturboch
25-05-2005, 09:54
B&Bs and Dover are good for me. I'm not that fussed about Amsterdam either. Spa and the ring with be coooool!

My AA breakdown cover is going to be ~£75 cos my car is more than 11 years old :(

Anyone got any idea how much car insurance will be?
Cool, in which case, even if we don't go in convoy we'll more than likely cross paths. Up to you, either way.
I'm with Fluxy and that covers me on the European mainland and comes with Euro breakdown cover so I don't need any extras. RAC usually costs about £40 for a week, from memory.

Jez
25-05-2005, 09:58
I'm with fluxy too - I'll give them a ring and see what they say.

EDIT: Just rung them, 90 day free Euro cover :) I opted out of the breakdown cover all together.

twinturboch
25-05-2005, 10:02
I'm with fluxy too - I'll give them a ring and see what they say.
Unless you said 'no' when they said would you like to keep the Euro breakdown facility then you should have it as they include the cost of it in every quote and only take it off if you ask :nod:

SM
25-05-2005, 10:49
Woo Hoo

The crowds getting bigger :D

You can do Dover-Boulogne for £50 on the Friday before, as me and SteA have been looking at. And maybe Rotterdam instead of Amsterdam, or maybe somewhere else for the weekend, nothing is booked so open to suggestions.

How many people are thinking of going on the Friday before? and where would you like to spend the weekend, we really should start making better plans now.

AA is costing me ~£40 for the week for the Euro cover upgrade, pretty sure fluxy's green card is free to me to.

Jez
25-05-2005, 10:53
When are we thinking of doing the ring? Monday?

If so I'd do something like this:
Sunday: leave the uk and get to a B&B near the ring
Monday: drive in circles, then kip near the ring
Tuesday: leave and drive to Spa, kip nearby
Wednesday: drive in circles, then kip near by
Thursday: Come back to the UK

SteA
25-05-2005, 10:57
We will likely be going the friday before and returning just over a week later :thumbs: Its going to be a little holiday as well :D We're open to discussion where, routes etc, I will put a lot more thought into it when I get these next two weeks out of the way, too many twelve hour days for my little brain to think straight at the moment :wack:

Jez
25-05-2005, 10:59
I've got to be back before Friday - going to a mates wedding on Saturday in Yorkshire, driving up Friday night.

SM
25-05-2005, 10:59
Yes, Monday 1pm - 7-30pm at the 'ring
Just the same for me, except leave Friday, be a tourist Sat/Sunday somewhere and arrive at the ring Late Sunday.


When are we thinking of doing the ring? Monday?

If so I'd do something like this:
Sunday: leave the uk and get to a B&B near the ring
Monday: drive in circles, then kip near the ring
Tuesday: leave and drive to Spa, kip nearby
Wednesday: drive in circles, then kip near by
Thursday: Come back to the UK

Jez
25-05-2005, 11:06
Cool :)

Bren, what you doing?

bren
25-05-2005, 11:16
We are going from Hull on Sat night to get to Nurburgring Sunday. We are staying by the ring, camping probably. Ring on Monday, over to SPA Tuesday for the track day Wednesday.

Not sure when we are coming back, dont know if we will set off back after the track day or on Thursday.

Jez
25-05-2005, 11:32
If everyone else is camping, I might too - don't wanna be a billy no mates on my own...

Do we need to book camping? What about Spa - theres a couple of hotels in the bookatrack bumf.

SteA
25-05-2005, 11:59
Tesco's are selling fantastically priced camping gear at present including blow up beds, sleeping bags and tents :thumbs: all looks pretty cool too... that was at a tesco extra in case in makes a difference ;)

Jez
25-05-2005, 12:02
I should be able to get hold of a tent and I've got an inflatable matress :thumbs:
Weather should be good in August too :)

SteA
25-05-2005, 12:13
I should be able to get hold of a tent and I've got an inflatable matress :thumbs:
Weather should be good in August too :)

Yep, if its really hot, I will have to get the wife active with one of those big fan things to keep me cool :wack:

bren
01-06-2005, 22:47
Anyone looked at ferrys yet?

Hull Zeegrugga is overnight. The ferry is £90 return. The cheapest cabin is £190 return extra and they wont let you just book a seat, you HAVE to buy a cabin :censored:

Folkstone-Calais dont have a ferry, only the chunnel, minimum £98 return but poor crossing times, 5.30 pm outbound, 10.30am homebound.

They do better times for £118, 12.30pm out, 4pm return.

http://www.intofrance.co.uk/ferry/ferrysearch.asp?ddi=3110&Routes=&Days=&Months=&Years=#Top

Jez
01-06-2005, 22:53
I've not booked anything yet - probably going to go Dover Calais though. I can't be arsed to go in the middle of the night, it'll cost more but I won't be falling asleep on the drive over :)

bren
01-06-2005, 22:54
Harwich to Hook is £230!!! :eek:

Looks like we will be doing Dover Calais too.

Jez
01-06-2005, 22:57
Just looked - dover calais at reasonable times 11am depart, 6pm return is about £80 for 1 person and car.

bren
01-06-2005, 23:01
I really didnt want to drive to Dover but its that or pay £190 extra to go from Hull which is rediculous. :(

Jez
01-06-2005, 23:05
Yeah, dover has got to be a bloody long way from you...
You're welcome to kip over here if you like.

bren
01-06-2005, 23:09
Thanks :) Youre not next door though are you? Arent you Combe way?

Jez
01-06-2005, 23:19
No, not next door - prob not worth it to be honest - just tried on the aa route planner - adds about 1.5 hrs to your journey. Its about 2.5 hrs from here. Just thought you might like to break up the journey :)

SM
01-06-2005, 23:44
Dover Boulonge is £50 as stated before.
http://www.speedferries.com/

I'm probably going to book the ferry quite late, as I'm flexable and its another cost I can leave as late as possible. I've still got to pay the other half of the trackday.

SM
24-06-2005, 03:04
I'm going to book my Ferry in the next couple of weeks.

Sometime Friday I think, From the list below is it just me and Ste going on the Friday?

Tom - Dover, just Spa, (monday? for a week?)
Bren - Hull, Sunday - Thursday
Jez - Sunday, Dover - Thursday
Twinturboch - Sunday Dover -Thursday
SM - Friday - Dover. - back Friday
Ste - Friday - Dover - back friday

PhatBob? Did you book, the thread seems like you were but didnt actually say you did.

Looks the same info for Nurburg opening times
http://julesperry.com/ring-2005-jp.htm
http://www.nuerburgring.de/
22.08.2005, Montag von 13:00 Uhr bis 19:30 Uhr

PhatBob
24-06-2005, 09:27
PhatBob? Did you book, the thread seems like you were but didnt actually say you did.


Had some financial issues at the time, which meant I couldn't book (looked like I was going to loose my job). That's sorted now but the days are all booked.

I'll stick to UK tracks for the foreseeable future as my car is about to become even less road friendly.

Rob

SM
24-06-2005, 09:34
Unlucky Rob :(

You could always just come for Nurburg and passenger at Spa but if that was me I would just feel gutted.

Yep both days are full, although you could ask what the reserve list is like!!

PhatBob
24-06-2005, 09:58
Unlucky Rob :(

You could always just come for Nurburg and passenger at Spa but if that was me I would just feel gutted.

Yep both days are full, although you could ask what the reserve list is like!!

Oh well, these things are sent to try us. With a bit of luck my car won't be in any position to drive down there! I've missed this season so I'll be working to have the car prepared for the winter sprint series.

SM
25-06-2005, 19:45
FYI
Calias - 'Ring - Spa - Calias is about 430miles
Boulogne - Ring - Spa - Boulogne is about 480miles

Ste - Brussels is right on the route, so seems the obvious place to be a Tourist on Sat. Although there are many other places close, not particually bothered what we do and where, just touristy non-car stuff.
Bonn, Maashict, Antwerpen Gent, Lille ..... loads of places.

Which Ferry do you fancy, Thursday? Friday? Morning? Day? Evening? Night? I dont really care, Just Sat, or Fri/Sat night in Brussels is good for me, leave for Nurburg Sunday morning. 25 miles each way extra to save ~£30 on the ferry boulogne/calias.

http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=19685&stc=1

EDIT
My current Windows desktop is HERE (http://www.suicidesquad.co.uk/sm/sxoc/pics/spa%20n%20nurburg%20roadtrip.jpg), and is about this trip.

I thought I'd share it incase anybody else wants to do the same.

Smaller Version
http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=19691&stc=1

SM
26-06-2005, 00:43
Can you tell I'm getting excited, under 2 months now :D :D :D

This is mainly for Steve unless any of you are changing the date you go ....
http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=19699&stc=1

SteA
26-06-2005, 02:32
Kev,

I will grab the wife and get the dates sorted...

How did you work out the mileage? I get much higher totals with several routefinders, approx 608 miles calais-ring-spa-calais :nod:






From Calais (62100, France) To Calais (62100, France)

Via 1 Nürburg (Germany)

Via 2 Francorchamps (Belgium) (950km to spa, it must be one of them :wack: )



Itinerary Express Distance 980.5 km On motorway 915.7 km Duration (1) 09H22

Petrol 91.30 € (83 l) Reimbursement 0.0 € Vehicle Sedan car

SM
26-06-2005, 12:26
I used Via Michelin (about a month ago)
http://www.viamichelin.com/viamichelin/gbr/tpl/hme/MaHomePage.htm

However when checked it today it was 600 from Boulogne :wack: Sorry :blush: :whip:

SteA
26-06-2005, 20:25
Right, I have booked with speedferries.com, we are going over a week early and camping near a beach in the north of france somewhere :nod: if anyone wants to join us you are more than welcome.... anyway:

Sailing dover to boulogne Friday 12.08.05 @ 1445
Rtn boulogne to dover fri night(really sat morning) 27.08.2005 @ 00:20

:wave:

We are going to meet kev on friday the 19th and spend a couple of days in brussels :) hope some of you will too....

AL_s13
26-06-2005, 20:44
There are a few of us that live in dover. If you are popping thru we could meet for beer

SM
26-06-2005, 22:00
Exitement builds....

OK so if you have GT4 or similar you can practise Nurburgring.

Here is a FREE demo of GTR which has Spa, so you at least know if its a tight left thats coming and not a lazy right ;)
http://www.3dgamers.com/games/gtr/downloads/

200mb download.

SteA
26-06-2005, 23:12
There are a few of us that live in dover. If you are popping thru we could meet for beer

With the times of our ferries the only opportunity we would have would be to meet for lunch on the friday outbound... that would be cool if you worked in the vicinity ;)

SM
27-06-2005, 08:51
Right, I have booked with speedferries.com,
Sailing dover to boulogne Friday 12.08.05 @ 1445
Rtn boulogne to dover fri night(really sat morning) 27.08.2005 @ 00:20

We are going to meet kev on friday the 19th and spend a couple of days in brussels :) hope some of you will too....
also Booked
Thursday 18th.8.2005 21:45 Dover / Boulogne SpeedOne 18.8.2005 23:35
Friday (Well Thursday night) 26th.8.2005 00:30 Boulogne / Dover SpeedOne 26.8.2005 00:20
And an extra couple of days off work :thumbs:

I might miss Brussels Ste :( and catch up with a coupel of Belgium Friends, as I didnt realise how close to Maarstict one of them lives, and thats right next to Spa, so might drink with him at the weekend and then he might come to Spa for some passenger laps.

twinturboch
27-06-2005, 18:04
Right, I've decided, well, my mate who's coming with me and I, have decided that we are going to do all three, Dam, 'Ring and Spa. Should be the bollocks. So is anyone else going to the Dam? If so, what ferry are you getting, I'll try and get the same one. :thumbs: So now it's, ferry either Friday evening/Sat early hours, Dam on Sat/Sun, to 'Ring on Sun evening, 'Ring on Monday, to Spa on Tuesday, Spa on Wednesday, home thursday on a Ferry in the esly hours? :confused:

SM
27-06-2005, 18:25
Well if somebody else was up for getting Amsterdamaged, or Rotterdamaged ..... you could twist my arm ;) Book that Thursday night Ferry that I have just done, you know you want that extra day off work !!!

SteA
27-06-2005, 23:26
Well if somebody else was up for getting Amsterdamaged, or Rotterdamaged ..... you could twist my arm ;) Book that Thursday night Ferry that I have just done, you know you want that extra day off work !!!

Are you being rude :eek: you suggest brussels which we say yeah ok, then you say no you cant as you are going seeing a friend then you say you are now up for going to amsterdam at the same time you suggested brussels that you later said you couldnt. Probably :mad: Ooooh, we feel proper snubbed :p :smash: :rolleyes:

davebargh
28-06-2005, 01:03
I know this is short notice but I usually do things on spur of the moment (although I did mention it to Bren a few weeks ago), i'm up for a trip to the 'ring. Not bothered about blasting around Spa so can look after gear whilst watching y'all having fun. I've got a tent etc, and about a weeks holiday (plus 24/8 is my 45th b'day). I can get a ferry sorted and if you don't mind would love to tag along. Prob. see most of you at NW RR meet and Mascrat to finalise details and could possibly take passenger/ help carry wheels/tyres :) :)

SM
28-06-2005, 09:28
SteA ... Well no plans are definate, I would like a weekend in Brussels (and probably favoured option if I take Bridget), I would also like to see my Belgium mate, although he may meet me at Spa (but this isnt ideal as I wont have much time to chat, probably see him at the weekend if I was on my own). If it was me and Dave travelling then it would be hard to drag us away from Amsterdam (and my initial plan).
No offense was meant, you know I'm just unorganised and want to do everything.

Dave :thumbs: I'm sure nobody would mind if you tagged along to watch at Spa (its now full) and joined us at the 'ring. Sure you could grab some passenger laps at Spa ;)

CrazyMoFo was looking for a lift, you could ask if he is still intrested, Any tools/Wheels carrying would be great :D.

SteA
28-06-2005, 10:30
SteA ... Well no plans are definate, I would like a weekend in Brussels (and probably favoured option if I take Bridget), I would also like to see my Belgium mate, although he may meet me at Spa (but this isnt ideal as I wont have much time to chat, probably see him at the weekend if I was on my own). If it was me and Dave travelling then it would be hard to drag us away from Amsterdam (and my initial plan).
No offense was meant, you know I'm just unorganised and want to do everything.



Only ribbing...... ;)

We are pretty darned flexible, we are over there for 2 weeks and the only absolutes are the ring and spa, everything else we are happy to see what the majority are up to and go from there, it will be more fun hitting places as a group :D

twinturboch
28-06-2005, 11:16
everything else we are happy to see what the majority are up to and go from there, it will be more fun hitting places as a group :D
Same goes for me, I'll just go with the flow. Agree about the group thing aswell. :nod:

SM
28-06-2005, 11:45
It will all work out, like Ste said I'm also flexible. Spa & Ferries are booked, thats all that needed sorting, I did consider trying to do Friday at the 'ring as well :wack: but its closed to all but (push)bikes & runners Fri/Sat/Sun .... and I'm not fit enough to run the 'ring, and havent room to take my bike.

twinturboch
28-06-2005, 12:30
Just out of interest SM, why are you getting the midnight ferry on Thursday/Friday? Am I missing something, but Spa is on Wednesday, stay at Spa Wednesday night and then come back. Surely Spa is only about 5 hours from the port so an earlier ferry would be better if we intend to get up in a leisurely manner on Thursday morning, have lunch, chill for a bit, then head home. I don't mind getting that ferry, but earlier just seems more logical?
Cheers :thumbs:

SM
28-06-2005, 12:39
Well Chill after Spa in the evening, have a long long sleep, have another day of being a tourist, about tea-time setoff back to the Port, midnight ferry, home for breakfast.

Ste is taking a ferry 24 hours after me, but that means back sunday morn and back at work monday, not long enough to recover.

twinturboch
28-06-2005, 12:44
Well Chill after Spa in the evening, have a long long sleep, have another day of being a tourist, about tea-time setoff back to the Port, midnight ferry, home for breakfast.

Ste is taking a ferry 24 hours after me, but that means back sunday morn and back at work monday, not long enough to recover.
Cool, seems a good enough reason to me. I'm booking those ferries now. :thumbs:

SteA
28-06-2005, 13:05
Ste is taking a ferry 24 hours after me, but that means back sunday morn and back at work monday, not long enough to recover.

You didnt confuse the dates did you? I almost did with my ferry being just after midnight :rolleyes: EDIT to add that no you didnt confuse dates, just wondered why you thought I wouldnt get home till sunday? I dont drive that slowly :wack: I'm taking the 20 past midnight ferry on friday night which means I will be home for 5 am saturday, have a lye in till 2 pm saturday then have the rest of the weekend to chill at home :thumbs:

Its a holiday, I dont need to rush back and the area around spa is supposed to be beautiful :nod:

davebargh
28-06-2005, 16:55
also Booked
Thursday 18th.8.2005 21:45 Dover / Boulogne SpeedOne 18.8.2005 23:35
Friday (Well Thursday night) 26th.8.2005 00:30 Boulogne / Dover SpeedOne 26.8.2005 00:20
And an extra couple of days off work :thumbs:

I might miss Brussels Ste :( and catch up with a coupel of Belgium Friends, as I didnt realise how close to Maarstict one of them lives, and thats right next to Spa, so might drink with him at the weekend and then he might come to Spa for some passenger laps.

I've managed to book same times as you so we could probably meet and drive down together :) share some of the load?

SM
28-06-2005, 21:47
Dave: Yeah, I can do that, its not much different if I go A1/M11/M25 than M6/M25,
Actually, is Bentham near Ingleton, and presumably High Bentham ?
Dont be to offering on the load sharing until a few of the others have warned you how many wheels I normally like to take on a trackday :wack:

Ste, yeah, your back Sat morning, most of the day in bed and then sunday to recover, I still didnt think that was not quite enough time for my lazy ass to get sorted for back to work on Monday, but wasnt going to rush for a wednesday night ferry from Spa, so its somewhere in the middle, and its also a £25 ferry, so making the ferry very very cheap at £60.

Cool :D 3 of us on those Ferries, I'll tell my mate I cant make the weekend in Maarstict, although I suppose I could still catch him Sunday .... and that he should come and meet me at Spa. I found out another mate who works in Koblenz these days (50miles from the 'ring) and commutes from London way sun/friday is hoping to grab a beer with me at nurburg campsite Sunday night, thats no problem though as we should have to be there by that time anyway.

Er .. there was something else but phone went and now I've forgotten :wack:

twinturboch
28-06-2005, 23:24
So who is actually going to the 'Dam (if anyone) apart from me? Or am I being dense? If so, what are we doing about accommodation? Are we gonna B&B it or camp there aswell. Could be fun camping, as long as the weather is OK which it should be in August :)

SM
28-06-2005, 23:46
Amsterdam is one of my vices ... Campsite is great :thumbs:
I've always camped here (for the last 10 years)...

http://www.vliegenbos.com/Engels/welcome/welcome.html

Vliegenbos
Meeuwenlaan 138 (636 88 55 / fax 632 27 23).
A campsite to the north of Amsterdam not far from the River IJ, ten minutes by bus from Central Station. Vliegenbos has a bar, a restaurant and a shop and also rents cabins which sleep up to four people at €45 a night. Rental bikes are available. Vliegenbos is considered a 'youth campsite', generally a more lively/noisy site.

I like this site as it has 1 entrance with security, and no matter what time of day or night there are people walking about, and have never had anything nicked, car tampered with ect ... ect ....

twinturboch
29-06-2005, 11:08
Amsterdam is one of my vices ... Campsite is great :thumbs:
I've always camped here (for the last 10 years)...

http://www.vliegenbos.com/Engels/welcome/welcome.html

Vliegenbos
Meeuwenlaan 138 (636 88 55 / fax 632 27 23).
A campsite to the north of Amsterdam not far from the River IJ, ten minutes by bus from Central Station. Vliegenbos has a bar, a restaurant and a shop and also rents cabins which sleep up to four people at €45 a night. Rental bikes are available. Vliegenbos is considered a 'youth campsite', generally a more lively/noisy site.

I like this site as it has 1 entrance with security, and no matter what time of day or night there are people walking about, and have never had anything nicked, car tampered with ect ... ect ....

Sounds good. I think I might be joining you :nod: :thumbs:

bren
29-06-2005, 12:23
SPA is cancelled :cry: :( :( :(

Ive just had an email from Book a Track saying that the fecking FIA want to do some work to the track and that the event has been cancelled as a result.

Fecking bastid bollocks bollocks bastid bollocks.

I was REALLY looking forward to the trip and am exceeding dissapointed and upset :(

bren
29-06-2005, 12:24
Brendan,

It is with sincere pain and frustration that I am forced to write this e-mail notifying you of the cancellation of our Spa-Francorchamps track days in August. The FIA have dictated an order that the circuit carry out some maintenance works during the week of 22-26 August - in preparation for the Belgian Grand Prix. It is for this reason that our days have been cancelled - with no alternative dates available at the circuit.

Please believe me when I say that you have my sincerest apologies for any inconvenience this may cause. As i'm sure you will appreciate, this has financial ramifications for BaT and it is with this in mind that I ask you to consider leaving your funds with us, subject to one of the following incentives:-

1) Half price entry to both October days at Spa-Francorchamps (11th & 12th). The balance of your funds will be credited to your BaT account.

2) Refund to BaT account of all funds paid plus a 25% bonus.

In both instances, the BaT credit can be used against any future UK or European events.

Once again, I am truly sorry to have to send this e-mail ask that in order to confirm you have read and understood this e-mail you please click one of the following links :-

1) I understand the August events have been cancelled and would like too book the October events at half price and have the balance as BaT credit.

2) I understand the August events have been cancelled and would like to take the full amount as BaT credit with a 25% bonus.

3) I understand the August events have been cancelled and would like a full refund to my credit card.

4) I understand the August events have been cancelled but only had a provisional booking and am not due a refund or credit.

Should you require a refund to your credit card this will of course be honoured, but please be aware that it may take up to 14 days to process all of the refunds. Please also note that if you did not pay by credit card you'll need to contact us by email with your bank details.

Kind regards,

Jonny Leroux BookaTrack.com Ltd

twinturboch
29-06-2005, 12:28
Shite :cry: :cry:

bren
29-06-2005, 12:30
Its not good. That was the highlight of the whole year. Its not good at all :(

twinturboch
29-06-2005, 12:33
Its not good. That was the highlight of the whole year. Its not good at all :(
Same here. Now I'm just gonna have to do every drift day going :rolleyes:
Feckin FIA. I am now not watching ANY FIA events ever again. Tossers.

SM
29-06-2005, 12:45
Its not good. That was the highlight of the whole year. Its not good at all :(
Bugger :cry:

Only booked the ferry as well this week ...

What to do? Go anyway and have a few days at 'the ring
and/or
Rebook for October (in the wet?? for half price)
and/or
:cry: then :cry: then :cry: some more :cry:

bren
29-06-2005, 12:46
What are the opening times of the Ring that week?

twinturboch
29-06-2005, 12:51
Bugger :cry:

Only booked the ferry as well this week ...

What to do? Go anyway and have a few days at 'the ring
and/or
Rebook for October (in the wet?? for half price)
and/or
:cry: then :cry: then :cry: some more :cry:
Exactly :( I've asked for a refund to my credit card and I will put it towards drifting :nod: I'll do the Euro trip next summer as I've done Spa in the wet before and I don't much fancy it again. It's horrid cause there is NO run-off on most of the circuit which means one mistake and you're fcuked. Might just go 'Dam for the weekend. :nod:

SM
29-06-2005, 13:00
Its only open 17-45 to 19-30 tues/Wed/Thursday. closed fri/sat (VLN 6 hour) open all day sunday

Weekend before its open 10-7 ish, afternoon/eve monday and 17-45 to 19-30 tues/Wed/Thursday.

From
http://julesperry.com/ring-2005-jp.htm

Gutted ... Gutted ... To gutted to think what to do instead :cry:

SM
29-06-2005, 13:10
Info on previous BAT trackdays at Spa

oct 02 - 1 day - weather was grim
sep 03 - 2 days - 1 showers, 1 sun/dry
oct 03 - 2 days - glorious sun both days (but cold!)
aug 04 - 2 days - glorious (hot hot hot!)
oct 04 - 2 days - 1 day overcast & damp, 1 day clear & dry (cold!)

Edit, just had a look around.
Theres loads of stuff on, open pitlane around that time, Oulton Park included, all £200 ish, just doesnt compare to Spa for only £225 ... even if we get back £281.25.......

Pah!! Too gutted to think about it now.
But there are loads of English tracks I wanted to do, Oulton, Anglesea, Croft, Donnington, Full Brands, Snetterton ...... there just not Spa.
Would have to change the times to make it worthwhile to go just for Nurburgring, an extra weekend earlier to get a full weekend on the track.

SM
29-06-2005, 13:36
http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=19884&stc=1

FYI, August opening times at the ring

Jez
29-06-2005, 14:38
:(

I don't think I'm going to go over now.

SM
29-06-2005, 15:28
Still Gutted - Trying to look on the bright side.

Half Price October means we could do both days for less than the cost of 1 August day (£195 Vs £225 Normal Price), more chance of a dry day.
More time to save up.

Ring October Opening Times.
http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=19886&stc=1

twinturboch
29-06-2005, 15:40
Still Gutted - Trying to look on the bright side.

Half Price October means we could do both days for less than the cost of 1 August day (£195 Vs £225 Normal Price), more chance of a dry day.
More time to save up.

Ring October Opening Times.
http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=19886&stc=1
More tyres, more brakes, more petrol. Trust me, a 200sx wouldn't make it through two days on a single set of brakes :no: Well not for me they wouldn't anyway :wack:

SM
29-06-2005, 15:54
More tyres, more brakes, more petrol. Trust me, a 200sx wouldn't make it through two days on a single set of brakes :no: Well not for me they wouldn't anyway :wack:
No, not for me either, especially 1.5 Days at the ring and 2 days at Spa ....
Would be a 12 wheels and 5 sets of brake pads trip :wack:
Still .... I quite fancy it if most/some of the group decide to go for it :nod:
i'll not be taking a passenger though, their seat would be going to make room for wheels :smash:

SteA
29-06-2005, 18:05
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrghhhhhhhh :mad: this was the absolute highlight of my year, I cant even begin to communicate how much I was looking forward to it :annoyed: :annoyed: :annoyed: :annoyed: :cry:

I'm just going into the garage to place my head in a vice :(

SteA
29-06-2005, 18:07
And its ****ing pointless giving us 25% extra back when I lose more than that on the ferry :mad:

bren
29-06-2005, 18:07
I know how you feel, I couldnt believe what the email said as I was reading it.

That was our holiday this year, its what we have been gearing everything up for. All the testing and development on the S13 was aimed to get it sorted and reliable for that one week :(

bren
29-06-2005, 18:08
Take it easy on BAT, if what they say is true then its no fault of theirs that its been cancelled. It would seem that the fault lies squarely at the feet of either SPA or the FIA. Bastids.

twinturboch
29-06-2005, 18:11
Take it easy on BAT, if what they say is true then its no fault of theirs that its been cancelled. It would seem that the fault lies squarely at the feet of either SPA or the FIA. Bastids.
Spa have signed a contract with the FIA, which every Grand Prix track has to sign which says the FIA have authority over any events held at that venue. So if the FIA says Spa has to do the work, they have to do the work :( if they want to hold a Grand Prix there that is :(

SM
29-06-2005, 18:14
And its ****ing pointless giving us 25% extra back when I lose more than that on the ferry :mad:
I thought that was good.

They were refunding Ferries and accomadation booked through BAT, I think BAT have done well.
And .. if we go in October instead, its half price, so thats 2 days :D and still money in your pocket.

If we want to go in Oct we can swap the ferries, but we better be quick as it will no doubt fill up quick.
I'd like to swap it all to October - for the record.

SteA
29-06-2005, 18:15
Take it easy on BAT, if what they say is true then its no fault of theirs that its been cancelled. It would seem that the fault lies squarely at the feet of either SPA or the FIA. Bastids.

Yeah, I can imagine that BAT are taking a right shafting. Still anoyed that not only will I lose a holiday and something I've been looking forward to for bloody ages but I will also lose cash.... pants

I booked my holidays ages ago, since then I've become admissions tutor at Uni and should usually be in that week, but because I had already booked they juggled things, if they know my holiday is cancelled they may now want me to work :(

Whats everyone doing then? I need something track orientated to look forward to or someone is going to get murdered :wack: Anyone still bothering with the ring? How about any other tracks in france?

bren
29-06-2005, 18:17
Id be up for SPA in October :nod: Its worth the risk in my opinion as its either that or we have to wait 13 months :eek: Plus we get two full days instead of one which would be cool :)

twinturboch
29-06-2005, 18:21
Id be up for SPA in October :nod: Its worth the risk in my opinion as its either that or we have to wait 13 months :eek: Plus we get two full days instead of one which would be cool :)
Sorry guys but I'm not risking the weather in October. :( It's like the 'Ring in that it has it's own microclimate and it will defo be cold and damp with sod all grip at the very least. Worst case it might be too wet to even open the circuit. Check their previous Occtober ones, not nice weather. If I'm spending that much and travelling so far, I want at least a chance of nice weather. :nod: I'm just putting the money towards this seasons drifting now that I have a proper car that prefers to be sideways rather than straight :)

SM
29-06-2005, 18:39
Id be up for SPA in October :nod: Its worth the risk in my opinion as its either that or we have to wait 13 months :eek: Plus we get two full days instead of one which would be cool :)
I'd be up for that, as stated, already primed my boss but as she thinks/knows the sun shines out of my ass I can swap holidays around no problem.
I'll chat on Sat :nod:

more time to save for a 310 kit to ;)

SteA
29-06-2005, 18:41
Id be up for SPA in October :nod: Its worth the risk in my opinion as its either that or we have to wait 13 months :eek: Plus we get two full days instead of one which would be cool :)

I would love too, but somehow I dont think that I would get away with cancelling a full week of lectures, especially as its the students first week back :(

TomM
29-06-2005, 21:48
B*stards. I'm not up for my first experience of Au Rouge being in the wet :eek:


Think I'll get a refund :( :( :(

SteA
29-06-2005, 23:32
Righty, who fancies one of these? Both with BAT...

Cadwell Park (Full Circuit)
Louth, Lincolnshire
Thursday 28 Jul 2005
[ Venue Info | View Attendees ]
Open Pit Lane
£175
Places Available


Snetterton
Norfolk
Sunday 31 Jul 2005
[ Venue Info | View Attendees ]
£175
Places Available

I'm going to book a few days soon, it would be nice if some of you join me....

:thumbs:

SM
29-06-2005, 23:37
Sorry Ste :no: not July, already got one on the 2nd that will probably do my funds.

Dr Bob
30-06-2005, 07:37
Righty, who fancies one of these? Both with BAT...

Cadwell Park (Full Circuit)
Louth, Lincolnshire
Thursday 28 Jul 2005
[ Venue Info | View Attendees ]
Open Pit Lane
£175
Places Available


Snetterton
Norfolk
Sunday 31 Jul 2005
[ Venue Info | View Attendees ]
£175
Places Available

I'm going to book a few days soon, it would be nice if some of you join me....

:thumbs:

i'm working both those days :(

as Kev says, Elvington is 2nd. also there's anglesey at the start of august :nod:

PhatBob
30-06-2005, 08:39
Snetterton
Norfolk
Sunday 31 Jul 2005
[ Venue Info | View Attendees ]
£175
Places Available


I'll be at Snetterton

Edit, Provisionally booked, will pay once this month's credit card is through :thumbs:

bren
30-06-2005, 09:23
Cadwell park is the dogs :nod:

Purplepower
30-06-2005, 15:10
Why not still do the ring? :)

For those that have already booked their ferry, it would be a shame to throw away the tickets...

I'd be 100% up for a trip to the ring on Monday 21st as originally planned. Sure it's a pain Spa isn't happenning now, but surely something is salvageable...

SXOC trip to the Nurburgring :thumbs:

twinturboch
30-06-2005, 15:21
Why not still do the ring? :)

For those that have already booked their ferry, it would be a shame to throw away the tickets...

I'd be 100% up for a trip to the ring on Monday 21st as originally planned. Sure it's a pain Spa isn't happenning now, but surely something is salvageable...

SXOC trip to the Nurburgring :thumbs:
The weather at the 'Ring will be HORRID in October. I wouldn't go that far at that time of year if you paid me as the risk of crashing on all the changing surfaces is huge. :D

Purplepower
30-06-2005, 15:24
The weather at the 'Ring will be HORRID in October. I wouldn't go that far at that time of year if you paid me as the risk of crashing on all the changing surfaces is huge. :D

I meant 21st August :thumbs:

TomM
30-06-2005, 15:39
I've had a good look on a load of trackday websites. There aren't any weekend days that are suitable for me for ages :(


Snetterton
Norfolk
Sunday 31 Jul 2005
[ Venue Info | View Attendees ]
£175
Places Available

Have a look where Snetterton is, Ste - it's over near Norwich. It would take at least 3.5 hours (and a tank of fuel) just to get there. :( It's also run in x3 20 minute sessions - you'd be really frustrated, with ~10-12 minutes of proper driving per hour (allowing for warm-up and cooling-down time).

There's a BaT event at Croft (out past York) the weekend before, but again it's run in x3 20 minute sessions, which would be a pain in the ass.

SM
30-06-2005, 15:47
I fancied croft the week before - its JAE, but we could just do Sunday, I really enjoyed the one session i had the other month, could be persuded to book it if theres a group.

Purplepower
30-06-2005, 15:52
Have both of you given up on the whole idea of gouing over to europe then?

Like I said above, it seems a shame to give up on the idea...

SM
30-06-2005, 15:54
Still weighing my options ... just nurburg, or both in October .... mainly waiting on the masses to meet and discuss. I'll be seeing Bren at weekend and seeing what we can bash out as a good option .....

SM
30-06-2005, 16:28
There was this as well for after JAE.

Weds 27th July Silverstone National circuit evening
open pit lane
17.30 – 20.00
98dB £125

Goldtrack, could probably sweet talk Mel into a discount and free SXOC garage, its the national circuit for a change (no hanger/stowe/club) break off at beckets and cut accross to Abbey.....

or
Thurs 4th august Silverstone National circuit evening, open pit lane, 17.30 – 20.00 , 98dB £125
or
Mon 15th August Silverstone GP circuit evening, open pit lane, 17.30 -20.00, 98dB £135
or
Weds 24th Silverstone GP circuit evening, open pit lane, 17.30 – 20.00

OR EVEN (although funds migth be a problem)
more the trip forward a month, straight back and straight to JAE .... with camping stuff

Weds 20th JULY Spa Francorchamps
Open pitlane Unrestricted noise £250
Thurs 21st JULY Spa Francorchamps
Open pitlane
Unrestricted noise

SM
30-06-2005, 16:36
http://julesperry.com/ring-2005-jp.htm

OK, checked out the ring ... looking good for a month earlier

http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=19932&stc=1

Purplepower
30-06-2005, 16:53
Still weighing my options ... just nurburg, or both in October .... mainly waiting on the masses to meet and discuss. I'll be seeing Bren at weekend and seeing what we can bash out as a good option .....

Well, although I have not posted on this thread till now I have always fully intended to go to the ring in August. My original intention was to meet you guy's over there, it's a crying shame your trip has been scuppered :(


All I know is it would be great if we can still make it an SXOC Nurburgring trip. I'll leave it for you all to ponder, for me it will be the trip of a lifetime :)

Jay

SteA
30-06-2005, 18:34
Tom (and anyone),

You are right about snetterton, Cadwell park though, looks very cool and is open pitlane :thumbs:

Thursday 4th of August for silverstone evening circuit sounds pretty cool too... two very good tracks should be something to look forward too.... :D

I cant go to spa in july, got a wedding to attend & other things arranged :(

TomM
30-06-2005, 20:00
Thanks for the PM Kev. :) Unfortunately, I won't be able to get the time off - I have to give 6 weeks notice in this job. :down:

(However, I've elected myself as the rota-master for my next job, so things will suddenly become a lot easier :D )

SM
30-06-2005, 23:39
I've requested space availability at all the trackdays I listed.
I fancy a nice evening Silvertone National circuit, should prove a different challenge than the GP while still being notworty, slower, more bends, more concentration needed.

PhatBob
01-07-2005, 09:34
Well, although I have not posted on this thread till now I have always fully intended to go to the ring in August. My original intention was to meet you guy's over there, it's a crying shame your trip has been scuppered :(
Jay

Come up to the Snetterton one on the 31st. It really is too far for the likes of Tom and Kev.

Purplepower
01-07-2005, 19:27
Come up to the Snetterton one on the 31st. It really is too far for the likes of Tom and Kev.

I might weigh up the pro's & con's of going on my own tbh. I have booked annual leave, & set aside money it's something i've wanted to do for a while :)

I may join you all at snetterton too though :thumbs:

PhatBob
02-07-2005, 09:16
I might weigh up the pro's & con's of going on my own tbh. I have booked annual leave, & set aside money it's something i've wanted to do for a while :)

I may join you all at snetterton too though :thumbs:

So far I think its just me at Snett, although I'm loud enough to sound like a small crowd. Another SX to play with would be fun.

Rob

SM
02-07-2005, 21:26
I'm thinking of Snett :D
Or maybe Oulton Park or Anglesey.

Will see in the next week or so.

SteA
03-07-2005, 00:41
I'm thinking of Snett :D
Or maybe Oulton Park or Anglesey.

Will see in the next week or so.

Not cadwell or silverstone?

SM
03-07-2005, 00:50
Yeah, all of it :D

bren
05-07-2005, 10:09
What about Donno, no ones done there for a while have they?

SM
05-07-2005, 10:27
There a thread with all the option Bren, or feel free to add more - link in Sig.

davebargh
07-07-2005, 18:51
I'm sorry to inform that due to a (hopefully minor) heart attack, I will not be able to go on trip. I cannot drive for 4 weeks and have been warned not to take on such a big trip so soon after the attack. I'm going to see if I can get my money back from Speed Ferries or would someone else like the reservation cheap? I think it is OK to change details reasonably easily- I wiil find out.

SM
07-07-2005, 19:45
Well Dave, glad your OK, and as it happens the FIA forced Spa to do some upgrades for the F1 and cancelled our trackday, so we postponed the whole trip till 2006 :(

davebargh
13-07-2005, 10:23
Well Dave, glad your OK, and as it happens the FIA forced Spa to do some upgrades for the F1 and cancelled our trackday, so we postponed the whole trip till 2006 :(

Sorry to hear that :( Speed Ferries say that I can change dates to anything up to 12 months further on for 10 GBP. so I will save reservation till next year.