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LDA
23-08-2004, 20:58
hey,

after watching the action all day yesterday at silverstone i've been thinking of a few things that could be improves slightly.

the scouring for the runs, although fair, seems to be a little inconsistent or at very least bewildering.
I dont feel that any of the people that made it past the various 'cuts' got their unfairly but some of the lower placed runners seemed to be given some very confusing scores.

i think part of the problem is that no one, except the judges, knows how the runs are being scored.
i'm sure there are guide lines for the judges on how to score the individual parts of the run and how to award points for meeting of missing the mark during a run.but if a driver doesnt know how he/she is going to be scored for their next run, then how can they possible change what they are doing to improve their score?

its not just the drivers that suffer from not knowing whats going to happen with the scores. the spectators, often not drifters, havent a clue how each run is going to be scored. the very good runs are easy to spot for the untrained eye but the closer runs in the mid field are much harder to tell apart.

the judges also have a hard job on their hands (and i'm not getting at them) splitting the difference between 2 similar runs. but a break down of their scoring would be very helpful to the rest of us to help understand their decision.

there must be points on offer for speed, line, angle and transitions. i for one would love to see the break down of each run. maybe in the form of a map of the course with boxes for scores at each point along the track?
this could be published on the d1 website for viewing later or published with the results table after the event.

a number of the drivers that i chatted to were unable to explain their own scores or how they faired against other runs.
some people were spinning and getting better scores than other people that didnt spin at all.
surely if you have spun then you lose all points for that corner and the following failed transition, as you cant make a transition from a spin.
then the driver can only score points for the other 2 corners and 1 transition.
ok so some of the lower scored runs may be not as good as 2 corners from a driver who had a small spin.

also i belive there are 100 points on offer for 5 parts of the course. 25 per corner (3 of them) and 25 for the transition (2 of them). would it not make more since to have 25 points on offer for all 5 parts? so the scores are not out of 100, so what?

i suppose this is all part of not knowing how the runs are scored.

are there any plans for future changes to the scoring or relaying the information to the spectators and the crowd?

L.

Dan E
23-08-2004, 21:07
There needs to be a big electronic scoreboard, so that they can put up the scores quickly and also have a breakdown of the scores for all to see. :D

Probably not cheap mind you. :rolleyes:

Rob-S13
23-08-2004, 21:35
can't we get somone from japan to come over and explain how to do it.

or even just a e-mail from someone who knows how to score a run

Rob-S13
23-08-2004, 21:41
or how about a judge for each part of the score,

i.e.
judge for speed
judge for angle
judge for line
judge for style?

just an idea but then they can concentrate of the area they are marking, also brake their score down into secions of corner/transitions

so the speed judge give a mark out or 5 for the speed of every corner and transition

and the angle judge marks out of 5 for the angle on every corner and transition

................ U must get my DRIFT by now :notworthy

sidewaysrob
23-08-2004, 22:45
also i belive there are 100 points on offer for 5 parts of the course. 25 per corner (3 of them) and 25 for the transition (2 of them). would it not make more since to have 25 points on offer for all 5 parts? so the scores are not out of 100, so what?

Why not score each corner and transition out of 20 points?

20 points for the first corner
20 points for the transition between 1 & 2
20 points for the second corner
20 points for the transition between 2 & 3
20 points for the last corner

Makes sense to me

Lennie
24-08-2004, 00:10
Why not score each corner and transition out of 20 points?

20 points for the first corner
20 points for the transition between 1 & 2
20 points for the second corner
20 points for the transition between 2 & 3
20 points for the last corner

Makes sense to me

yes

mav
24-08-2004, 00:12
I thought Kiki was one of the judges?

Morf
24-08-2004, 00:16
I thought Kiki was one of the judges?
I think Kiki prefers to stay impartial.

Sideways Danny
24-08-2004, 00:24
I think Kiki prefers to stay impartial.

shouldn't really sit at the judging table then should he???

scoring was embarrasingly inconsistent AGAIN

BARKY
24-08-2004, 08:31
My comp run was the my best run, don't know my score yet, any one got a clue?? Judging / scoring does need to be sorted out, I think this time round was the worst ever!

Hates_
24-08-2004, 10:10
My comp run was the my best run, don't know my score yet, any one got a clue?? Judging / scoring does need to be sorted out, I think this time round was the worst ever!I've been trying to get hold of a final result list. I want to see how far down the bottom I placed! :thumbs: