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Deacon
13-07-2004, 12:02
ARHGGHRGH! :mad: :mad:


"HONOURS SET FOR CHANGE"

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The Order of the British Empire should be scrapped and replaced by a new Order of British Excellence, a committee of MPs has said.

The MPs also said knighthoods and damehoods should be phased out within five years.


The Commons Public Administration Committee called for a major overhaul of the honours system.

It said the system should be more transparent and the automatic award of honours to state servants should be ended.

The committee said while there was still solid support for the honours system, there was unease about the way it operated.

The title Order of the British Empire was now considered to be unacceptable, it said.

It was thought to embody values that were no longer shared by many of the population.

It said the reputation of the system could be jeopardised by the fact that the Prime Minister's office still produced the main list of honours for submission to the Queen.

MPs called for the abolition of the secretive honours selection committees, which recommend awards, and the creation of a new honours commission whose membership would be made public.

It said that detailed statistics on the regional and ethnic origins of the recipients of awards should also be published.

Chairman Tony Wright urged the Government to take up the report's recommendations.

"Honours are a way for the nation to recognise service and achievement. This is important, which is why the honours system needs to be taken seriously," he said.

"We need to ensure that it is fit for purpose, which means making changes to it from time to time."


It was thought to embody values that were no longer shared by many of the population.

bollocks!

mattpayne
13-07-2004, 12:12
no longer shared by which population???!!!

do these people actualy know what country they are in... ffs... :mad:

Jalfrezi
13-07-2004, 12:22
to be fair though, we're not really an empire anymore, i think perhaps the name should be changed.


But I don't agree with the scrapping of knighthoods etc, providing they are given to worthy characters..........

RohanC
13-07-2004, 12:38
It was thought to embody values that were no longer shared by many of the population.

Gah!

It like they are trying to make us feel ashamed of our past :mad:

OK, historically we did a fair few wrong's, but we should still be proud of our history, we wouldnt be a G8 country otherwise.

Stidi
13-07-2004, 12:40
don't worry lads,

I'll have a word with the boss and see what she can do ;)

if it's been going since the year dot, why change it? :(
so people with the new honours will be saying, oh an MBE? that's so last year :ghey:

RohanC
13-07-2004, 12:41
don't worry lads,

I'll have a word with the boss and see what she can do ;)

lol!!

:D :) :wave:

gaz.thomas
13-07-2004, 14:56
Rightly or wrongly the word 'empire' has a lot of negative connitations in certain corners of society, both here and abroad. But those that forget and all that...

Gaz
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kirkster
13-07-2004, 15:17
It like they are trying to make us feel ashamed of our past :mad:


Can anyone remember when they also talked about forgetting the two world wars we'd been involved in!!!! :mad:

PsYcHeS
13-07-2004, 15:19
Empire went years ago, out dated and un wanted, like the royal family i spose

200sxcraig200sx
13-07-2004, 15:38
I didn't know Dean Gaffney could play tennis?

gaz.thomas
13-07-2004, 17:03
lmfao@craig :thumbs:

Gaz
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_Rob_
13-07-2004, 21:45
I say we should revive the empire, poison the americans hamburgers and take control of their economic wealth. then start back on the path to glory.....
I do think that the bit about it not being shared with a percentage of the population is wrong. Its like inverse racism! If i moved to france i wouldnt expect them to stop being cowards just for me, or if i moved to switzerland i wouldnt expect them to stop being indifferent just to suit me ( those are jovial examples im not xenophobic before any of you smelly johnny foreigners start) lol
Rob

Leon
13-07-2004, 22:30
we're not an empire any longer so why should we have an award for that?

As for the awards system... yeah fine. However, with the greatest of respect to Henman and his ability not to win Wimbledon at all, I think that there are nurses, doctors, teachers, policemen, firefighters etc who do one phuck of a lot more than him - and who gets an award from Liz and Phil the Greek?????

if it's been going since the year dot, why change it? a fine sentiment. To be honest I think that living in a cave was probably OK, so why change that? Why do anything, come to that, if it works, lets not bother to improve it...

OK, historically we did a fair few wrong's, but we should still be proud of our history, we wouldnt be a G8 country otherwise. do you feel the same about America?

Aitch
13-07-2004, 22:41
:indiff:

Personally I couldn't give a flying fcuk about the honours system or whether I live an empire - it really isn't going to cause me any loss of sleep. I mean, what the hell would I get a knighthood for? Post whoring? Fcuking up absolutely everything I touch? I don't think so.

The only thing that bothers me is this bit...


The Order of the British Empire should be scrapped and replaced by a new Order of British Excellence, a committee of MPs has said.
... that it takes a sodding "commitee" of MPs to take the time out to look at whether a few minor celebrities and lollipop crossing people should receive a small bit of tin attached to a ribbon every year. They should be MPing, for cedric's sake. :annoyed:

golders
13-07-2004, 23:25
agree with Aitch, they are wasting time & money. MP's should try running the country instead of worrying about the bits of tin.