anyone do plastering??

[crackdownuk]

woow Just done my first day at college on my plastering course and boy is it tough, quite good fun though :D ( hope fully the rest of the weeks is to)

Anyone got any advice, tips, tricks of the trade???

we put the under coat on today ( doesnt have to be that smooth and then we have to key it ready for the final coat i think :o )

[JackaL]

Ugg... the smell of plaster is 'orrible! ;) How do you cope?

[mav]

Wanna come and do my flat? I need all the walls skimmed throughout.

[Rude Dog]

Good luck mate, finish the course work for someone else for a while to perfect it and then go it alone. You'll be minted :thumbs:

[wacomuk]

I work for 3 dry lining comp`s and all 3 have trouble finding good plasters. if you get good and your quick you can make 1k a week. after your plastering course do a taping & jointing course some plasters do this if the plastering work drys up you can also make good cash at it !!

[crackdownuk]

thank you for the advice :) what is taping and jointing matey???

talk soon

[TomM]

Just done my first day at college on my plastering course... Where, how much is it, full-time or part-time, and how long?

Cheers :)

[deej-79]

thank you for the advice :) what is taping and jointing matey???

talk soon

Pretty sure its joining the two sheets together, not an easy thing to perfect from my experience.

[Rude Dog]

Where, how much is it, full-time or part-time, and how long?

Cheers :)
Not many places teach plastering nowadays but if you can find a place that does you should be able to learn it in about 9 - 10 3 hour sessions ;)
The its just practiceing to get your speed up :thumbs:

[RohanC]

lol, tried plastering a bit of wall recently..... f00k me its difficult to get a good finish, think iam going to have to pay someone to do it all for me!

4 cellings & a few bits of walls... anyone down south want some cash in hand work :D

[crackdownuk]

just got back, we have been doing redering the last few days, but tommorrow is the top coat, looks easy but like most things there is a knack :D I was shown today if you tilt the troul further back( more on the knuncles ) you have more control and a better finish

wacomuk its only a short course ( 30 hours) but it all practise and you learn a few of the basics, it only costing a £10, i recommend you go to your local construction college and see what is on offer

[Cath]

any girlies on the course

[docwra]

thank you for the advice :) what is taping and jointing matey???

talk soon

Plasterboard, basically :thumbs:

Mmmmmm jointing :smitten: :wack:

[crackdownuk]

any girlies on the course


yeah 2 infact :thumbs:

[Cath]

cool - just been looking at courses round here - also other things that would come in handy too :thumbs:

[crackdownuk]

cool - just been looking at courses round here - also other things that would come in handy too :thumbs:

Yeah go for it i say, i know they also do or did a DIY one which is bits or everything, which maybe beenfical to you???

talk soon :thumbs:

[piehound]

20 years of experience here and you can be a very wealthy dood once your speed picks up , i stopped doing forigners 2 years ago and still get pestered at least once a week to do 1 for peolple as they cannot get good spreads anywhere for luv nor money, as for tips i have plenty but as you come acroos things you will sort em out , like need the bonding/browning to go off quick add a dash of cement , to hold it back use washing up liquid
large areas coves etc use waterproofer in the float coat it will slow down the suction in the skim giving you more time,
to make sand and cement go off at lightning speed at board finish
use silicone or no nails to hold p baord to lintols etc as concrete dont draw the moisture

oh and the most important is if your on site and need a crap use the inside layer of the bag as the bits with plaster on is a b1tch to get off ya ass
and be carefull going in lofts as peeps smear sh1te around the loft hatch to get you young doods with it lol

[wacomuk]

taping and jointing explained on this link
http://www.gyprock.com.au/technical/diy/gyprock/B2AC44E9503C48B9831F72958A4CE598.pdf
page 6

[crackdownuk]

20 years of experience here and you can be a very wealthy dood once your speed picks up , i stopped doing forigners 2 years ago and still get pestered at least once a week to do 1 for peolple as they cannot get good spreads anywhere for luv nor money, as for tips i have plenty but as you come acroos things you will sort em out , like need the bonding/browning to go off quick add a dash of cement , to hold it back use washing up liquid
large areas coves etc use waterproofer in the float coat it will slow down the suction in the skim giving you more time,
to make sand and cement go off at lightning speed at board finish
use silicone or no nails to hold p baord to lintols etc as concrete dont draw the moisture

oh and the most important is if your on site and need a crap use the inside layer of the bag as the bits with plaster on is a b1tch to get off ya ass
and be carefull going in lofts as peeps smear sh1te around the loft hatch to get you young doods with it lol

LOL thanks for the tips :) how long did it take you to get quite good???

They even make there own moulds of stuff at college which would be quite good :D

few tips i have pick up already so keep them coming

break a new troul in before use ( ie doing flooring)
Put silver sand down on wooden floors stops the plaster stinking to the floor ( more for use novices)

If you need to draw moinsture out the room quicker, mix up half a bucket of water and salt and it should help bring the moisture out :thumbs:

[Rude Dog]

If you need to draw moinsture out the room quicker, mix up half a bucket of water and salt and it should help bring the moisture out :thumbs:
Or just hire a de hum and charge the client ;)

[crackdownuk]

Or just hire a de hum and charge the client ;)

LOL top skim is going on tommorrow and advice??? I know it 2 coats and then troul it off isnt it???

[Rude Dog]

The only advise I got for top coats is dont rush, dont sweat it and buy yourself a ****ing good synthetic brush for final polishing/finishing.

[piehound]

depends what you call good lol, i was capable in 6 months but of course i knew everything or so i thougt
its more of a case of speed and getting the right sequence of walls in a large area, always do oposites etc and any skim over from the mix do a reveal around a window or 2 to save you coming back later on
never beleive someone who says its ok thats wires not live CHECK its a pain when you hit i live 1

[crackdownuk]

hi all :D we did the final two coats today, much easier to put on thank the rendering ( but a right bitch to mix) first coat went on well quite easy, second coat was a bit harder, then trouled it of managed to get it quite smooth and not to bad for a first :thumbs:

how long should you let the renedering go of for ( 1 day??)???

[piehound]

depends on the weather really , too long and you will need to wet it before skimming , far too long and you will need to unibond , another trick to hold skim back ,works on bonding too, usually 24 hours though but it still may crack 6 months later if it dries out to fast , ask mr dog i bet hes filled plenty os shrinkage cracks lol

[crackdownuk]

thanks matey so much to learn :nod: how did you learn??? college?? YTS???

talk soon

[piehound]

nope started as a joiner aprentice but swithed to plastering as it was more intersting and more work for plastering at the time after 2 years. then all site work and experience for 15 years , now im a manger and run dept building extentions for people with disabilities , so try not to get my paws dirty these days , but i still do friends and familly stuff , i keep thinking about doing foreigners again but then i think why the fook i earned loads but had no free time to spend it ,
but now im thinking about it agin i think i will come out of retirement lol and gte my tools out and make squillions again lol :thumbs:

[crackdownuk]

nope started as a joiner aprentice but swithed to plastering as it was more intersting and more work for plastering at the time after 2 years. then all site work and experience for 15 years , now im a manger and run dept building extentions for people with disabilities , so try not to get my paws dirty these days , but i still do friends and familly stuff , i keep thinking about doing foreigners again but then i think why the fook i earned loads but had no free time to spend it ,
but now im thinking about it agin i think i will come out of retirement lol and gte my tools out and make squillions again lol :thumbs:

LOL nothing like being a squillionaire :nod: i surpose it like a bike once you have learned you never for get :thumbs:

Practise makes perfect, might get some sheets of plasterboard and practise in the garden, cant :) hurt

[Mitch]

I've pretty much decided on drylining as my second career. Sorry for resurrecting an old thread but I thought I'd search for someone with experience.

I was going to ask if it was a worthwhile and reasonably paid job, but judging by Piehound's responses, it would appear so.

I've got a four week drylining/plastering course in a couple of months, and will probably do a bit of plumbing and tiling on shorter courses too. There's also a self employment 2 dayer which will give an insight into that, but I intend to work for someone else for a while before going it alone.

Any thoughts or tips please? I was half considering doing the driftgarage thing but thought I'd be a bit fooked if work dried up, plus overheads and me not knowing much about small businesses.

[piehound]

still retired lol but still doing friends and family,

[Mitch]

Come on, you can do better than that ;) :D

Any pointers, and is it worth a punt?

[danny-mac]

I'm a plasterer, yes its a ok-ish paid job.

I get between 120 and 150 a day (daywork) and between 150 and as much as 200 on price.

Feeling the physical side of it a bit these days though, tendonitis in the wrists, bad shoulders , pins and needles in arms at night etc.

Anything specific you'd like to know?

[Mitch]

Not really, just want to know I'm making the right choice.

I hate office work and want to carry on doing something hands on for as long as possible.

[danny-mac]

Prices haven't really improved since this thread was started and lately there has been a glut of eastern Europeans taking work ( usually bad quality ) and driving/holding prices down.

Thought about plumbing?

[Mitch]

Only as an aside to complement the plastering side really.