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Sick or harmless? (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/lancashire/3876615.stm)
Personally I think he should have the key thrown at him and the book chucked away. He clearly had the intention to kill by visiting armed with a knife. Whatever happened to nice ways of killing old people like smothering them with pillows. (Mum, if you're reading this those pillows really are for my spare room and not to aid me in getting my inheritance early :no: ).
And at 100 he hardly has to worry about dropping the soap on E wing or starting a riot in the showers.
Discuss...
I feel sorry for him :( , I don't think the way he did it was particularly good though :rolleyes:
Dave
I think the whole thing is very sad :(
I think the whole thing is very sad :(
I agree :( I can't say I condone murder or violence towards women but I think the judges point (and hopefully the accused) was that it was misguided euthanasia rather than outright murder...
Aitch, he's 100. I know what he did was a bit wrong :indiff: (although more justifiable if you consider the circumstance) but what on earth do you hope to achieve by banging him up for the rest of his life? Just how would this help anything? It's just all very sad :(
Martin T
08-07-2004, 21:26
I think it was very sad. Clearly his heart was in the right place but his mind wasn't :(
but what on earth do you hope to achieve by banging him up for the rest of his life? Just how would this help anything?
It would stop him going on a killing spree round all the old people's homes in the North West (as long as the battery holds out on his electric trike long enough to get him there).
Just because he's old is no excuse. He could be the next Shipman now he's got a taste for blood and knows he can get away with it. :mad:
It would stop him going on a killing spree round all the old people's homes in the North West (as long as the battery holds out on his electric trike long enough to get him there).
Just because he's old is no excuse. He could be the next Shipman now he's got a taste for blood and knows he can get away with it. :mad:
I'm thinking if you jog (or walk reasonably fast!) you might just escape his venomous, callous, muderous grasp! :D
Mrs Heginbotham was found by staff at the home on 1 April.
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Mr Heginbotham was arrested by Lancashire Police on suspicion of murder at his home on 1 April
: inappropriate snigger :
I'm thinking if you jog (or walk reasonably fast!) you might just escape his venomous, callous, muderous grasp! :D
Yes, I can now, but in 40 years time when I'm crippled with arthritis and in an iron lung, I might not enjoy the freedom of movement that will allow me to escape him. Think on! :rolleyes:
Yes, I can now, but in 40 years time when I'm crippled with arthritis and in an iron lung, I might not enjoy the freedom of movement that will allow me to escape him. Think on! :rolleyes:
Oh I think you will... He would be 140 years old!! :D
It would stop him going on a killing spree round all the old people's homes in the North West (as long as the battery holds out on his electric trike long enough to get him there).
Just because he's old is no excuse. He could be the next Shipman now he's got a taste for blood and knows he can get away with it. :mad:
PMSL :D Stop trying to play devil's advocate ;) :D
I personally also find it rather sad, they'd been married for years if he was truly a psycopath and not trying to do what he thaught was best (in a very stupid way) I'm sure he'd have killed his wife years before.
I feel very sorry for both him, his wife and all of their family.
Papa Lazarou
08-07-2004, 22:23
The law is the law. He should be punished. Even if it was a case of euthanasia, something which I have some sympathy for, slitting her throat is not the way to go about it. Granted he's unlikely to be a threat to others (at least you would think so, he COULD be a raging psycho in his own little environment like an old peoples home), but thats only half the reason why you lock someone up.
The law is the law. He should be punished.
I'll remind you of that if you whinge for getting caught doing 31mph in a 30 zone
very sad but we dont know both sides to make a valid judgement
very sad but we dont know both sides to make a valid judgement
That's never stopped us in the past :wack:
Papa Lazarou
08-07-2004, 23:16
I'll remind you of that if you whinge for getting caught doing 31mph in a 30 zone
Thats hardly in the same league as murder, now is it?
Thats hardly in the same league as murder, now is it?
According to this particular judgement it would seem that speeding is far, far worse. :rolleyes:
Thats hardly in the same league as murder, now is it?
LOL, your point being?
Papa Lazarou
08-07-2004, 23:30
OK then, perhaps the Police should have a degree of discretion to allow murder then, as long as its carried out by non threatening looking old people or cute little children :wack:
No but the courts should be more leniant on people driving 75mph on a Motorway at 2am
Papa Lazarou
08-07-2004, 23:46
The speeding comparisons just don't work mate. That is not a crime against the person.
If I'd punched someone on the street I'd get punished even if it was totally justified. And I wouldn't whinge about it... If you slit your wifes throat, you get punished, even if its for the right reasons....
I'd have had more sympathy if she'd been terminally ill and he'd given her a bit too much diamorphine in her syringe or something.
But as has been said, we don't know the whole story :)
But as has been said, we don't know the whole story :)
True - I suspect that within the year, the old duffer will be married to some 21 year old nubile blonde he's been seeing on the sly ever since his wife put her hip out in the fall and wasn't putting out any more. ;)
Then again, I could be entirely wrong. :wack:
Papa Lazarou
08-07-2004, 23:59
Thats just sick m8 ;)
bollocks, theres other 'peaceful' and 'happy' ways of doing euthanasia than slitting throats, this was a pre-mediated act and falls into the category of murder, not manslaughter on grounds of diminished responsibilty, regardless of his age.
but then, if it was you in his shoes, what would you have done??????
and don't forget that now there is 'case law' to be used in any future cases of euthanasia, if they were too leniant it would have back fired, and to be honest, is it REALLY in the public interest that this chap was hung, drawn and quartered over what appears to be (from the facts(?) known) a case of genuine euthanasia, just not committed in the nicest possible way??? :indiff:
I can't stop thinking what his wife was thinking when her husband for 60 odd years slit her throat and gave her a painful death.
Poor poor woman
twinturboch
09-07-2004, 09:23
It would stop him going on a killing spree round all the old people's homes in the North West (as long as the battery holds out on his electric trike long enough to get him there).
Just because he's old is no excuse. He could be the next Shipman now he's got a taste for blood and knows he can get away with it. :mad:
Jesus!!! Someones been eating a few too many synicism pills. If anyone really thinks he would kill again they should go live on an island all on their own cause if he could we all could. The guy saw his wife of 67 YEARS gradually being taken away by illness. I'd do exactly the same thing as, I'm sure would most people.
hmm, think its time for this thread to be closed
gaz.thomas
09-07-2004, 09:27
I feel sorry for the guy. I would venture that his method may have had something to do with his former profession rather than any kind of disturbing bloodlust.
Gaz
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To die at the hands of your husband ? The man that has loved you? You have loved him ? Did she consent? Ask to be killed? If not then what gave him the right to take another persons life ? is being with them/ someone for 67 years a right to take thei life away?
Dreadful - as stated what was his wife’s last thoughts............
What will his children now remember and know. Did they not have a right to their mothers life - company etc.
Life’s so precious and some people just don't comprehend that!
2 Black Lines
09-07-2004, 09:39
Couldn't help but think the next stop for her, when I heard he was a butcher,
Was the mincer. :wack:
If the old bloke came round to your house, would you leave the knives out in the kitchen? :confused:
Bet you wouldn't :no:
The actual act of slitting the throat, if done with a sharp knife would hardly have been noticable (give your self a deep cut with paper, that doesnt hurt until you look at it), and bleeding to death is supposed to be a very painless way to die!
Uthenasia should be allowed to be practiced in this country, after all we do this for terminally ill animals!
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