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http://www.migweb.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=137408 :eek:
http://img27.photobucket.com/albums/v82/Ryan_H/DCP_0017.jpg
Don't want to come across that at the traffic lights ;)
mattpayne
07-07-2004, 08:57
Nicely done :thumbs: lets hope it all holds together and the gearboxe and transmission strangemess all works ok :)
very subtle from the outside.. :)
:hurl:
Didn't your mother teach you "If you havn't got anything nice to say, then don't say it at all" ?
Didn't your mother teach you "If you havn't got anything nice to say, then don't say it at all" ?
:no:
:indiff:
its a astra, so its rubbish.
MattyGee
07-07-2004, 09:53
when it said 4.0 twin turbo i thought it meant as one engine.
looks a bit crap on the outside but im sure it goes well :thumbs:
shadowninja
07-07-2004, 10:41
someone stole his sideskirts!
now for the more technical/engineery type people this is interesting. Two engines, two turbos, 4wd. an complex excercise that must have taken a lot of time, and must have cost a lot. There are a lot of engineering problems that need to be solved to make this possible. the chosen vehicle may not be to our taste, but that doesn't change the achievement
we have threads on here about transplanting skyline engines and gear, so we should appreciate the work involved. pop over to migweb, say hello, ask questions.
Apparently this is exactly what non 200 was intended to contain.
or alternatively
:hurl: be our usual shallow (predictable) cantankerous old selves :p
I tell ya what, if he manages to get 2 C20LET Calibra Turbo engines with the 6 speed boxes in there he'll be laughing....
My old Calibra Turbo made 340bhp and 370lb-ft all day every day. Never 1/4 miled her, but would go on to over 165mph
Imagine that... 680 brake astra...
Looks shite tho...
If that was me, I would have shoehorned it into a rusty beige 1.3 Merit then gone round wasting everybody and everything!!!
now for the more technical/engineery type people this is interesting. Two engines, two turbos, 4wd. an complex excercise that must have taken a lot of time, and must have cost a lot. There are a lot of engineering problems that need to be solved to make this possible. the chosen vehicle may not be to our taste, but that doesn't change the achievement
we have threads on here about transplanting skyline engines and gear, so we should appreciate the work involved. pop over to migweb, say hello, ask questions.
Apparently this is exactly what non 200 was intended to contain.
or alternatively
be our usual shallow (predictable) cantankerous old selves :p
Just what I was thinking Grim! Indeed, most of us wouldn't entertain owning an Astra GSi, but from those pics its obvious that those blokes have spent a lot of time and effort. It looks like theve got a very quick car for thier troubles.
[Almost quoted by Dunk - but not quite...]If that was me, I would have shoehorned it into a rusty beige 1.3 Merit then gone round wasting my tyres and bank balance][/QUOTE]
:nod: :thumbs: :wack:
now for the more technical/engineery type people this is interesting. Two engines, two turbos, 4wd. an complex excercise that must have taken a lot of time, and must have cost a lot. There are a lot of engineering problems that need to be solved to make this possible. the chosen vehicle may not be to our taste, but that doesn't change the achievement
we have threads on here about transplanting skyline engines and gear, so we should appreciate the work involved. pop over to migweb, say hello, ask questions.
Apparently this is exactly what non 200 was intended to contain.
or alternatively
be our usual shallow (predictable) cantankerous old selves :p
:nod: well said!
Always liked Astra Gsi's and the turbo engine is a cracker!
crackdownuk
07-07-2004, 11:28
yeah i always liked the look of the GSI, they never handle well though :(
Must have cost a few £££, but fairplay :Thumbs:
or alternatively
be our usual shallow (predictable) cantankerous old selves :p
Suits me. At the end of the day it's still an Astra and the money could have been spent on something much better than that. Just an opinion, which I believe I'm still free to express, if that's ok with you :rolleyes:
Suits me. At the end of the day it's still an Astra and the money could have been spent on something much better than that. Just an opinion, which I believe I'm still free to express, if that's ok with you :rolleyes:
http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:cF-uWCnug-UJ:www.fesk.net/handbag.gif
:p
http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:cF-uWCnug-UJ:www.fesk.net/handbag.gif
:p
LOL :)
voodoo_melon
07-07-2004, 13:23
lol :D
http://smilies.networkessence.net/images/confused.gif to the car though.
At the end of the day it's still an Astra and the money could have been spent on something much better than that.
Exactly. :nod:
voodoo_melon
07-07-2004, 13:34
Suits me. At the end of the day it's still an Astra and the money could have been spent on something much better than that, like a Cavalier.:wack:
is it not illegal to run a twin engined car on british roads?
voodoo_melon
07-07-2004, 13:51
is it not illegal to run a twin engined car on british roads?
Don't think so. Can't you get westfield/caterham type things with 2 bike engines in them?
shouldn't think so
As long as it passes it's MOT it'll be legal
The massive 60 ton plus heavy heavy haulage lorries (the really big feckers) used to have two engines....
why would it be illegal,
i can see them making you tax it twice though :smash:
hmm, a m8 of mine did the same conversion to a rally nova, went well then he was told to take it off the road as it was not able to be driven on british roads....
voodoo_melon
07-07-2004, 13:55
As long as it passes it's MOT it'll be legal
Not necessarily. MOT doesn't cover everything as was discussed in a thread about exhaust loudness.
Engineering wise that is excellent and as he has done it himself hats off to him :notworthy . To the fact its 'still an astra and he could have picked a better car' i'm sure porsche and ferrari owners would say that about Richies car, its all down to taste and what we like ;)
hmm, a m8 of mine did the same conversion to a rally nova, went well then he was told to take it off the road as it was not able to be driven on british roads....
doesn't it depend if the two engines are connected? ie if it is a propper 4x4 then it's ok, but if the two engines are seperate and just driving their own pair, it's not?
kirkster
07-07-2004, 14:12
Dont like it at all. Probably very quick, but would rather have spent the cash one something decent TBH.
manic_mechanic
07-07-2004, 14:14
If that was me, I would have shoehorned it into a rusty beige 1.3 Merit then gone round wasting everybody and everything!!!
Top idea! I must go against the flow here and say that apart from the front spoiler I think its a subtle and well-modded car. The engineering is very clever - :thumbs: to those guys :D
Martin T
07-07-2004, 14:16
I was hoping it was a v8 or something. Still, good work to the guy if he did it himself and didn't just go to some tuning place "make it really good and I'll pay you"
Martin T
07-07-2004, 14:19
I was hoping it was a v8 or something. Still, good work to the guy if he did it himself and didn't just go to some tuning place "make it really good and I'll pay you"
Just followed the link and saw the car. Oh look its one of those "lets stick a snow plow on the front and not a lot else on it" look cars :down:
Still :thumbs: to the guy and his dad for doing the work on it himself.
doesn't it depend if the two engines are connected? ie if it is a propper 4x4 then it's ok, but if the two engines are seperate and just driving their own pair, it's not?
I would have thought this was an engine for the back wheels and an engine for the front, still 4WD though :wack:
Once you have mounted the rear motor I think the hardest bit is building a gear change that works on both engines at the same time. There's quite a few golfs that have had this conversion done.
http://www.migweb.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=137408 :eek:
http://img27.photobucket.com/albums/v82/Ryan_H/DCP_0017.jpg
Don't want to come across that at the traffic lights ;)
tbh I doubt it is that fast. I haven't loaded the forum (can't be arsed on this connection) - but I mean, look at those rear lights!
You have to have lexus style lights to have a fast car. everyone knows that.
I was hoping it was a V8 or something.
Me too - V8 and RWD, now THAT would have been a cool Astra :D
Bayside Blue
07-07-2004, 21:09
Jesus!! Lets hope its an American 4 litre so it would only produce about 100 horsepower lol!
Otherwise were screwed! :D and were be stuck saying 'We'll at least my car looks nicer'
Martin. :thumbs:
its a astra, so its rubbish.
:nod: utter rubbish.
I have to agree with JB aswell, it makes me wanna :hurl: too...
Daniel
can i just ask, hows the rear engine getting its charge cooled?
i know it has the vent on the side for the air feed but there will be nothing to cool the intercooler?
Looks like it's got a chargecooler on the far right tucked in behind the driver
I opened this thread expecting to find someone had shoehorned a V8 into a Astra :rant:
As a piece of engineering, I'm quite impressed. It would take a lot of work to get it moving, and even more to make sure it doesn't rip itself in half, and stays on the road! The difference in chassis balance, strength and weight all mean it ought to be a bit interesting, shall we say, to drive! Then you have to consider balancing the engines power, balancing the clutches etc... A lotta work, so much respect for that.
However - they did pick what I consider to be the most pig ugly Astra of the lot to put it in :( I'd have been MUCH more interested if they'd made it purely mid-engine 2.0T, or perhaps shoehorned a V8 under the bonnet and connected it to the rear wheels :nod:
I expect their intention was to make a pure drag car. Which they have. Whether it's the best way to have done it will be determined when they unleash it on a 1/4 mile somewhere... I expect it will be quite good at it. On the track, however, I expect it would be a bit of a nightmare, and would have trouble :D
voodoo_melon
08-07-2004, 12:45
They should have used a mk2. They have a built in time delayed weight reduction system :nod:
Mint_Sauce
08-07-2004, 12:54
Top Kudos to the guys who did it. :thumbs: It's people like this that help push things along.
manic_mechanic
08-07-2004, 15:20
They should have used a mk2. They have a built in time delayed weight reduction system :nod:
Nice phraseology! :thumbs:
UglyAstra!!
08-07-2004, 22:45
Thanks alot for your intrest in our car, although most of you feel it is "rubbish" (really :confused: ) Thanks for the comments.
The front Bumper is not a "Snow Plough" and nor did I put it on to make it look like "another one of those cars"
It was necessary to allow the front intercooler to fit atthat level. It does look good.
As for a V8, why would i do that?, It wouldnt fit for a start and power would be limited. As it states in my thred on Migweb this car will run 2 C20LETs from the Calibra and if you look further into the thread you will see the engines that will be fitted. The engine is from my calibra which will easily match any 200sx. So X2 it will be nice :) .
I dove a 200sx the other day and thougt that it was an excellant car, I am not going to go on like a kid and say it was sh1te , I hate Nissans etc..
It was a quality car with good power, although I am not a fan of the backend. But that is just my opinion. TBH I can see what draws you to them.Wouldnt like to drive 1 i the wet thou :eek: gh
Anyway, our car was built by myself and my Dad, everything was done in our workshop and I mean everything!
A Mk2 Astra was the original plan but most are rotten, and good ones a rare, they also dont have subframes which was important in this project. So the MK3 was the next option.
It is for fun, and is built to be driven hard.
BTW Rear engine is intercooled, that side vent is to the intercooler, side vent on passenger side is for air intake/radiator. The Air is cleverly ducted and forced through the intercooler.
Thanks Again for the comments(No offence taken :) )
Hope to see you at a RWYB
Thanks
Ryan
Have you guys not seen the 'boost beast'?
Its a twin engined (C20LET out of Calibra Turbo) Opel Nova, built by Regal in Southampton.
A few stats:
0-60 in 2.8 secs.
In excess of 680bhp.
Video: http://www.skylinegts.co.uk/Temp/GW-H1.wmv
http://www.boost-beast.de/boost-beast.de-DE/galerie/paris-04/images/big/IMG_9180.JPG
http://www.boost-beast.de/boost-beast.de-DE/galerie/astra-h-herne/images/big/117_1705.JPG
More info here: http://www.boost-beast.de/boost-beast.de-DE/index.htm
:)
Well done for coming on here and sticking your head over the parapet at the risk of being shot down :notworthy
The only "rubbish" aspect of the car is that it is an Astra, and even that is just an opinion. Your engineering skills certainly aren't being called into question though and I think most people are in awe of it. I can't criticise at all - the most technical thing I've done is stop my heat shields rattling :wack:.
Hope the rest of the project goes well :thumbs:
Martin T
08-07-2004, 22:57
The front Bumper is not a "Snow Plough" and nor did I put it on to make it look like "another one of those cars"
It was necessary to allow the front intercooler to fit atthat level. It does look good.
I do think the front bumper looks nice but I think it looks silly without decent sideskirts and a rear bumper to keep the "balance" of the styling, otherwise it looks bolted on as an afterthought.
As I said before though - great job for doing it :) that car should be interesting to see at TOTB.
Martin T
08-07-2004, 23:00
Have you guys not seen the 'boost beast'?
Its a twin engined (C20LET out of Calibra Turbo) Opel Nova, built by Regal in Southampton.
A few stats:
0-60 in 2.8 secs.
In excess of 680bhp.
Video: http://www.skylinegts.co.uk/Temp/GW-H1.wmv
http://www.boost-beast.de/boost-beast.de-DE/galerie/paris-04/images/big/IMG_9180.JPG
http://www.boost-beast.de/boost-beast.de-DE/galerie/astra-h-herne/images/big/117_1705.JPG
More info here: http://www.boost-beast.de/boost-beast.de-DE/index.htm
:)
Yeah I've seen it and TBH was not impressed. Partly because I'm a Novaist and hate all things Nova, partly because it was getting utterly destroyed on acceleration by any decent power skyline. In fact in one of the vids I saw the Skyline was about the same at only 1 Bar of boost and utterly destroyed the Nova (no go in Spanish) at 1.6 Bar. Thats not a massive abount of boost really.
I also saw it at Jap performance at the Pod and it couldn't touch the decent power skylines there either.
whatever may be in it, its still an astra!! :sleep:
dont get me wrong, there are some nice astra's about now, but this aint one of em :down:
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