ISDN help please

[dave mca]

I just had it fitted fri morn.
I`ve got 2 Freeserve anytime accounts running now so i can have 2 64k connections running.
At mo got 2 ISDN slots in wall ,1 lead from one of those to a BT speedway card in PC. Got a nice connection (it says connected at 115,200bps). But i dont know how to connect both lines together.
Multilinked them (i think) and connected at 230,000 ish but connection was having trouble and was very slow.
SO...I`ve got the ISDN installed and 2 ISP`s that i want 64k from each (or 128 together if poss).Got 1 lead from box to PCI card and 1 PCI card. What have i got to do? I tried to open the 2nd connection while first was running and obviously it couldnt cos first was using ISDN card. Tell me i dont need 2 leads , 2 pci cards and 2 ISP`s to have the 2-64k lines running :-(

[hames_jet]

I have ISDN dude, all you have to do is make sure your ISP supports 128k. I am not freeserve does. You do not need two connections. The ISDN card will support single or dual channels. I assume you got the BT Speedway numbers to dial for 128k and 64k access. Dual channel say its connecting at 230kbps but this may be the speed that your pc is communicating with your modem and not modem to BT exchange.
Drop me an e-mail if you needs some help dude. The set up for dual channel should be PPP and RAS in the settings.

[Vez is gay]

Originally posted by hames_jet:
I have ISDN dude, all you have to do is make sure your ISP supports 128k. I am not freeserve does. You do not need two connections. The ISDN card will support single or dual channels. I assume you got the BT Speedway numbers to dial for 128k and 64k access. Dual channel say its connecting at 230kbps but this may be the speed that your pc is communicating with your modem and not modem to BT exchange.
Drop me an e-mail if you needs some help dude. The set up for dual channel should be PPP and RAS in the settings.

[Vez is gay]

Originally posted by hames_jet:
I have ISDN dude, all you have to do is make sure your ISP supports 128k. I am not freeserve does. You do not need two connections. The ISDN card will support single or dual channels. I assume you got the BT Speedway numbers to dial for 128k and 64k access. Dual channel say its connecting at 230kbps but this may be the speed that your pc is communicating with your modem and not modem to BT exchange.
Drop me an e-mail if you needs some help dude. The set up for dual channel should be PPP and RAS in the settings.

Hello,

I used to have ISDN but moved to a full time cable connection at 512kb..ISDN can be expensive..if you can get a cable connection where your located its great and it is always on and I pay 20 pound a month for it..I am IT security person with all the
qualies and I would not touch ISDN again but
for your interest ISDN is made up of 2 64K channnels and a 6K troubleshooting channel,the two 64K channels are bundled to produce on 128K channnel..you should use one ISP and configure your modem to support channel bundling ..what type of modem do you have..

[Amdathlonuk]

NTL do Broadband permanent connection with cable modem, TV, phone for £40 per month ...well worth it in my book.

[dave mca]

I live on the edge of the wirral country/farmland and we dont have cable or adsl and no-one even has a clue if we`re going to get it.
Isdn is my last resort believe me.
I want to download at 128k you see by multilinking/bonding /teaming or whatever the hell i can set up.
Just bought a BT speedway ISDN PCI card.
Before i got it i envisaged 2 sockets in box on wall and on PCI card. 2 different ISDN numbers for each line and multilinking them or Teaming them for downloads and browsing on 64k.
I was aware i may need a 2nd ISP for the 128k downloads as ISP`s aren`t offering 128k unmetered access yet (which i`m on).
Now i`ve got the 2 ISP`s and the ISDN but i dont know how to link them together for downloads. Would you say i need a seperate ISDN PCI card and ISP for each connection?
I`m so confused http://300zx.co.uk/200sx/ubb/confused.gif

[kingdeacon]

Originally posted by Dave:
if you can get a cable connection where your located its great and it is always on and I pay 20 pound a month for it.


dave, 20£ is that all? what company? how do i get it? thanks.

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[Keith_C]

Right - I've had ISDN for a couple of years now, so I shall help.

ISDN has a single phone number to it, but it is in essence two seperate phone lines. When using home highway, all you have is a single dual-channel ISDN line fed in, and the box does the conversion from analogue to digital when you use your voice phone. That's the reason why you cannot use 2 ISDN channels and a voice channel at the same time.

Now, cos the box is clever, it is also able to assign a phone number to each of the analogue sockets. That's why a HH install has 3x phone numbers.

Onto dial-up.

You ISP *must* support multi-linked connections to use 128k. BT Internet do, but not on the unmetered service. If you wish to use 128k on BT Internet, you need use the 0845 number. I don't know if Freeserve do, but if they do I'd imagine they also would have a different phone number to the analogue service.

There is no ISP I know of that will support 128k over an unmetered phone number. BT Internet will support 64k on it's 0808 number, as will AOL, Freeserve, and all the others. Some will use the same phone number as the analogue users, some will have a different one.

Actually dialing up:

Create the dial-up account. Call it ISP 128k or something. For a phone number, inset the phone number. Now go to the multi-link tab, and select add number. Re-type the number so it matches the other one.

That should now work.

If it does not, then BT are ****e, and I can recommend www.titandial.net (http://www.titandial.net) - I use them and the performance is *far* superior to BT, and you'll be paying the same.



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[dave mca]

CHEERS ALL
You can get 2-64k ISDN connections going entirely seperately though cant you if you get 2 leads , 2 isdn pci cards , 2ISP`s ?
So i can browse on one while the other constantly downloads or something , yeah?
I might have a bit of software to connect 2 lines like that as well y`see. I can do that though cant i?

[hames_jet]

You could use both lines, 2 connections and 2 cards, to download as the other views the net. It may cause problems with your machine as it will recognise you as already connected. You may have to play about with settings to allow both cards to work at the same time.

[Keith_C]

You can have two seperate connections over 1 pci card and one line. However, while you can dial to two ISPs, you would need to manually redo your routing table on the PC to make it work properly. Ditto even with 2x Pci cards.

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[andyf]

I'm going to be my usual weird self and suggest you take a quick peek at BT (http://www.btopenworld.com/broadband/ava10) or Easynet (http://www.uk.easynet.net/products/product.asp?id=33) and see if they say you can get DSL as Easynet's prices are pretty decent.

[craig]

you should be able to get multilink isdn through global/GX or XO as they are now called.

you might be able to get it through aviators network as well, but will probably have to negotiate a bit...

if you want 128k, then it HAS to be through one ISP which will support multilink bundles, which i know they do, as i worked there and helped set it up...

else you will have to do fancy routing and stuff, which just wont work properly froma home account, unless you are running BGP.. unlikely

also remember, 2 calls at once = 2 times the bill, it's not classed as one call